Not saying Gorshvok is bad, just saying it could use more teeth considering what it'll be up against, Zircon or not.
Are you sure?.... i remember the Buyan having no problems when it went from the med to the Baltic or Northern base.
Wouldn't it be the same if you just made more of what already there?
I also like the new design, although like i said it's lacking some teeth.
They have to be able to make them first, i hope to god Amur isn't put in charge of the Lider.
Have they been able to classify the Lider yet, is it a Destroyer or a B-cruiser??
What we need to keep in mind here is what are duties of Russian Navy and they come down to 2 things:
1) Provide cover/decoy for nuclear subs
2) Protect territorial waters/coast
Everything else is irrelevant in overall scheme of things. Even current Syrian party is just one very rare exception to firmly established rule.
So that being said:
Gorshkov frigates have plenty of teeth for their size. 16 VLS cells are not that few when you remember that they also have full AA and anti-sub package. They are called multirole ships for a reason.
It is important to remember that despite being called frigates, they are intended to replace all Soviet era destroyers ( Sovremeni, Udaloy, etc..) They were never intended to go after Arley Burk destroyers head to head. Their job, like their predecessor's, is to act as decoys so nuke subs could do their thing during nuclear exchange.
They might expand them into something bigger down the road but they need to put dozen of them into service first.
Drskii corvettes may seem underarmed but that is result of their intended role which is anti-sub and patrol duties. Those Uran launchers are there for self defence.
Steregushi class have same amount of firepower but those ships have reached end of their upgrade potential. High price is also big problem, something that probably factored into Drskii design.
Steregushi were/are good ships but they simply fell victim to financial disaster of the 90's that is all. Time and technology moved on. That being said, there is still possibility that Gremashi class will be still produced for North Fleet since they seem to have specific requirements but that is still up in the air.
Buyans have same issue as Steregushi corvettes: nearing the end of upgrade potential. They started as river artillery boats. They evolved into masterpiece but this is as good as it gets.
They can sail from Med to Baltic. They can probably cross the Atlantic easy but it would be pain in the ass for the crews and it would be pointless unnecessary risk. Think of them as proof of concept. Concept works so now they should build full package and that is Karakurt.
These three classes ensure implementation of Russian Naval doctrine. If you want to go head to head with Burks then that is where Lider destroyers will be coming into play although I doubt that it would be their intended role.