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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  GarryB on Sat Sep 05, 2015 1:45 am

    Thanks Morpheus.... interesting to see Ataka/Shturm on Gibka... perhaps they will use it on small vessels where guided missiles (ATGM and MANPADs) can share the same mount, or is this a dedicated version of Gibka?

    I have seen patrol boats with three tube launchers mounted on the main bridge superstructure, but this is a much more elegant and practical solution for engaging targets... surface, sea, and air targets near the vessel.

    Does anyone know if it is a universal mount (ie ATGM - Shturm, Ataka, Krisantema, MANPADs - Igla, Igla-S, Verba).


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:02 am

    jhelb wrote:CURRENT RUSSIAN NAVY CONSTRUCTION STATUS








    Seems incomplete, Buyans are not listed and neither are Project 22160 patrol ships...

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:05 am

    GarryB wrote:Thanks Morpheus.... interesting to see Ataka/Shturm on Gibka... perhaps they will use it on small vessels where guided missiles (ATGM and MANPADs) can share the same mount, or is this a dedicated version of Gibka?

    I have seen patrol boats with three tube launchers mounted on the main bridge superstructure, but this is a much more elegant and practical solution for engaging targets... surface, sea, and air targets near the vessel.

    Does anyone know if it is a universal mount (ie ATGM - Shturm, Ataka, Krisantema, MANPADs - Igla, Igla-S, Verba).

    Garry,

    I think this configuration is called Gibka-M6 (according to the Raketnaya Tekhnika). The Gibka-M5 is another configuration that combines 2 missiles from the 9M120-1 missile family with 4 MANPADS.

    I don't really know how quickly the configurations can be converted to one another; conversion probably requires changing just the launch adapter.

    The main link with more images is http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/gibka/gibka.shtml

    Edit: Here is another link: http://www.kbm.ru/en/production/ptrk/539.html

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  jhelb on Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:59 am

    PapaDragon wrote:Seems incomplete, Buyans are not listed and neither are Project 22160 patrol ships...

    Vyshny Volochek ; Ingushetiya ; Orehovo-Zyevo and Grayvoron are expected to be commissioned between 2016 and 2018.

    Re Project 22160, only Dmitriy Rogachev and Vasily Bykov have been laid down so far. 4 more are expected.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  franco on Sun Sep 06, 2015 12:55 pm

    jhelb wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:Seems incomplete, Buyans are not listed and neither are Project 22160 patrol ships...

    Vyshny Volochek ; Ingushetiya ; Orehovo-Zyevo and Grayvoron are expected to be commissioned between 2016 and 2018.

    Re Project 22160, only Dmitriy Rogachev and Vasily Bykov have been laid down so far. 4 more are expected.

    I thought there were 6 22350's FFG's on order??

    Good find by the way.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Sep 06, 2015 4:57 pm

    jhelb wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:Seems incomplete, Buyans are not listed and neither are Project 22160 patrol ships...

    Vyshny Volochek ; Ingushetiya ; Orehovo-Zyevo and Grayvoron are expected to be commissioned between 2016 and 2018.

    Re Project 22160, only Dmitriy Rogachev and Vasily Bykov have been laid down so far. 4 more are expected.

    Will those four ships be sent to Black Sea or Kaspian fleet?

    I read that number of 22160 ships will be 14 in total.




    Also:

    ''Russian Coast Guard Acquires State-of-the-Art Helicopters''

    http://sputniknews.com/business/20150906/1026658558/russia-us-wheat-sales.html

    Do we have Coast Guard tread?

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  franco on Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:20 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    jhelb wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:Seems incomplete, Buyans are not listed and neither are Project 22160 patrol ships...

    Vyshny Volochek ; Ingushetiya ; Orehovo-Zyevo and Grayvoron are expected to be commissioned between 2016 and 2018.

    Re Project 22160, only Dmitriy Rogachev and Vasily Bykov have been laid down so far. 4 more are expected.

    Will those four ships be sent to Black Sea or Kaspian fleet?

    I read that number of 22160 ships will be 14 in total.





    Also:

    ''Russian Coast Guard Acquires State-of-the-Art Helicopters''

    http://sputniknews.com/business/20150906/1026658558/russia-us-wheat-sales.html

    Do we have Coast Guard tread?

    1. The first 3 to Kaspian (done) and last 6 to Black Sea.
    2. I have read 6 ordered and another 6 22160 will be.
    3. Believe we are using the Intelligence or Security Service tread in the Russia category for Coast Guard and Border Service.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:12 pm


    ''When Fantasy Meets Reality: Russia Develops Heavy ‘Flying Ship’''

    http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150909/1026772726/russia-ekranoplan-development.html

    ''“Work on the A-050 ekranoplan with a takeoff weight of 50 tons is now ongoing at the Akekseyev Central Hydrofoil Design Bureau,” the CHDB’s chief designer Georgy Antsev said.

    “We are now ready to start building the prototype and we are in talks with several potential buyers, including foreign,” he added.''



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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:42 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    ''When Fantasy Meets Reality: Russia Develops Heavy ‘Flying Ship’''

    http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150909/1026772726/russia-ekranoplan-development.html

    ''“Work on the A-050 ekranoplan with a takeoff weight of 50 tons is now ongoing at the Akekseyev Central Hydrofoil Design Bureau,” the CHDB’s chief designer Georgy Antsev said.

    “We are now ready to start building the prototype and we are in talks with several potential buyers, including foreign,” he added.''



    I wonder if ekrnoplanes will be used in military roles or only as fairly fast transport platforms?


    BTW for Russian sub drones with thermon8cler warheads in drones´ section pls

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:49 pm


    Satellite image of Kamchatka sub base:



    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/67811/

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  George1 on Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:38 am

    Undersea Hybrid Warfare: Russia Fields World's Largest Deep-Sea Fleet

    Russia has powerful undersea hybrid warfare capabilities, American writer and filmmaker Steve Weintz reveals.

    During the Cold War the USSR had developed its own clandestine underwater systems — nuclear powered mini-subs — following in the footsteps of the United States; contrary to all expectations, these systems survived the collapse of the Soviet Union and even received further funding during the 1990s, American writer and filmmaker Steve Weintz points out.

    In 1968, the US created the NR-1, a nuclear-powered four-man mini-sub, which was able to dive over 3,000 feet and stay underwater for weeks. It was "a marvel of American ingenuity," Steve Weintz underscored.

    These clandestine underwater systems were considered crucial for undersea warfare.

    "With its primacy in titanium metallurgy and skill in nuclear technology, the Soviet Union built several competitors to the NR-1. The Russian Federation inherited these assets along with the Ministry of Defense branch (GUGI, or Main Directorate Deep Sea Research) that supervised those programs," the writer pointed out in his article for the National Interest.

    "Even as the United States lost the NR-1's capabilities to retirement, Russia bolstered its deep-sea… activities," Weintz underscored.

    The writer called attention to the fact that in 2012, Russia's deep-sea research underwater vessel placed a Russian flag on the ocean floor some 13,200 ft below the North Pole.

    "The "research sub" was in fact one of Russia's secret deep-sea assets, the nuclear-powered mini-sub the Losharik," Weintz noted.

    "No other submarine is the subject of so much speculation and interest as the elusive and Top Secret Losharik (AS-12). She is a deep-diving special missions /engineering boat (read 'spy sub') operated by the Russian Navy on behalf of GUGI (Main Directorate Deep Sea Research)," a naval blogger, cited by Weintz, suggested.

    The US author emphasized that with the Losharik and the Nelma minisubs and bathyscaphes Rus and Consul, the GUGI operates the world's largest manned deep-sea fleet.

    "Combined with its growing submarine-rescue fleet and Naval Spetznaz outfits, Russia now fields a very powerful undersea hybrid warfare capability," Steve Weintz elaborated.

    "Let's hope the US Navy is on the case," he added.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150917/1027156925.html#ixzz3m2QRc3hh


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  kvs on Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:57 am

    George1 wrote:Undersea Hybrid Warfare: Russia Fields World's Largest Deep-Sea Fleet

    Russia has powerful undersea hybrid warfare capabilities, American writer and filmmaker Steve Weintz reveals.

    During the Cold War the USSR had developed its own clandestine underwater systems — nuclear powered mini-subs — following in the footsteps of the United States; contrary to all expectations, these systems survived the collapse of the Soviet Union and even received further funding during the 1990s, American writer and filmmaker Steve Weintz points out.

    In 1968, the US created the NR-1, a nuclear-powered four-man mini-sub, which was able to dive over 3,000 feet and stay underwater for weeks. It was "a marvel of American ingenuity," Steve Weintz underscored.

    These clandestine underwater systems were considered crucial for undersea warfare.

    "With its primacy in titanium metallurgy and skill in nuclear technology, the Soviet Union built several competitors to the NR-1. The Russian Federation inherited these assets along with the Ministry of Defense branch (GUGI, or Main Directorate Deep Sea Research) that supervised those programs," the writer pointed out in his article for the National Interest.

    "Even as the United States lost the NR-1's capabilities to retirement, Russia bolstered its deep-sea… activities," Weintz underscored.

    The writer called attention to the fact that in 2012, Russia's deep-sea research underwater vessel placed a Russian flag on the ocean floor some 13,200 ft below the North Pole.

    "The "research sub" was in fact one of Russia's secret deep-sea assets, the nuclear-powered mini-sub the Losharik," Weintz noted.

    "No other submarine is the subject of so much speculation and interest as the elusive and Top Secret Losharik (AS-12). She is a deep-diving special missions /engineering boat (read 'spy sub') operated by the Russian Navy on behalf of GUGI (Main Directorate Deep Sea Research)," a naval blogger, cited by Weintz, suggested.

    The US author emphasized that with the Losharik and the Nelma minisubs and bathyscaphes Rus and Consul, the GUGI operates the world's largest manned deep-sea fleet.

    "Combined with its growing submarine-rescue fleet and Naval Spetznaz outfits, Russia now fields a very powerful undersea hybrid warfare capability," Steve Weintz elaborated.

    "Let's hope the US Navy is on the case," he added.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150917/1027156925.html#ixzz3m2QRc3hh

    God what drivel. This clown should go back to making "quality" Hollywood movies. The Losharik was nowhere near the North Pole when
    the flag was planted on the Lomonosov ridge. A shelf extension of Russia.

    The USSR "copied" the USA and its stupid designs like the Space Shuttle because it was always on the defensive in terms of warfare development.
    Naturally in US propaganda the USSR was the menace under every bed ready to pounce at any moment. In reality it was the USA that was ready
    to pounce at the drop of a pin. Russia does not have to parrot the Americans like the USSR and has developed an asymmetric response strategy.
    A good start is neutralizing the US deep sea spy network.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:45 am

    Since I don't know where to put this:

    "Star" will be the largest shipyard in Russia


    Here are photos from Oct last year:
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/53798/

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  George1 on Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:32 pm

    NATO to Focus on Countering Russia’s Maritime Capabilities

    Norwegian Defense Minister Ine Erikson Soreide said that NATO will respond to enhanced Russian maritime capabilities by shoring up its own sea-based defenses.

    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — NATO will respond to enhanced Russian maritime capabilities by shoring up its own sea-based defenses, Norwegian Defense Minister Ine Erikson Soreide said at an Atlantic Council conference on the future of NATO.

    "One area that needs more attention is the increasing challenges of the maritime domain… NATO must not yield on the maritime flanks, " Soreide said on Thursday.

    On Wednesday, Soreide met with US Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter to discuss "generating true allied maritime capabilities."

    That challenge, Soreide said, will be "the main issue" going into the July 2016 NATO Warsaw Summit.

    Since announcing its revised defense posture in late 2014, Russia has put an increased emphasis on maritime capabilities successfully concluding military exercises in the Arctic, the Baltic Sea, the Black Sea and in the Mediterranean over the past year.

    Much of the emphasis has gone into the development and deployment of surface and subsurface platforms with high precision, long range strike capabilities.

    As a result of improved Russian capabilities, Soreide stated that NATO "could potentially face a resurrected threat to the sea lines of communication across the Atlantic," representing a challenge that "concerns all of Europe and the United States."

    In recent year’s NATO’s ability to project power on the sea has declined as a result of decreased defense spending among member states.

    As of June, NATO reported a 1.5 percent decline in the alliance’s overall defense spending for 2015, slightly less than the 2014 decline of nearly 4 percent.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150925/1027498892.html#ixzz3mkFs5LlW


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  TheArmenian on Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:32 pm

    Look at the missiles being loaded:



    https://fotki.yandex.ru/next/users/eagle-rost/album/461158/fullscreen/1371869

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  artjomh on Fri Sep 25, 2015 9:48 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:Look at the missiles being loaded:



    https://fotki.yandex.ru/next/users/eagle-rost/album/461158/fullscreen/1371869

    RPK-7 with torp and with depth charge.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  Viktor on Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:08 pm

    23130 "Academician Pashin" in construction thumbsup

    LINK

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:01 pm

    artjomh wrote:
    TheArmenian wrote:Look at the missiles being loaded:



    https://fotki.yandex.ru/next/users/eagle-rost/album/461158/fullscreen/1371869

    RPK-7 with torp and with depth charge.

    Artjom, on militaryphotos long time ago we had short chat about potentially new Russian SSN with displacement something like half of Yasen´s  (something like Alfina) - you alwasy have broad spectrum of insider news, any  news with this regard you can share?


    And maybe you had a chance to learn know something more about corvette proj 22800 ? Thanks Smile

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  artjomh on Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:36 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:Artjom, on militaryphotos long time ago we had short chat about potentially new Russian SSN with displacement something like half of Yasen´s  (something like Alfina) - you alwasy have broad spectrum of insider news, any  news with this regard you can share?

    Nothing concrete has been announced or planned.

    The current prevalent thinking is that the future class of nuclear submarines would be based on the so-called "Base Model": two or three classes of submarines sharing the same hull, but with extra sections depending on whether the submarine carries ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, or is a torpedo submarine. This approach would allow shipbuilders to standardize some of the basic equipment, shore infrastructure and crew training, and lower production and maintenance costs.

    Of course, this approach also means that a single design bureau would be responsible for the entire nuclear underwater fleet, with all the bureaucratic and political difficulties this engenders.

    At this point, these discussions are merely conceptual and no specific RFPs have been solicited. We probably won't see any concrete budgetary discussion of a follow-on submarine until at least 2020.


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  Stealthflanker on Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:37 pm

    artjomh wrote:
    Of course, this approach also means that a single design bureau would be responsible for the entire nuclear underwater fleet, with all the bureaucratic and political difficulties this engenders.

    At this point, these discussions are merely conceptual and no specific RFPs have been solicited. We probably won't see any concrete budgetary discussion of a follow-on submarine until at least 2020.


    judging at the sail's shape.. i guess it's Rubin's idea.


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  jhelb on Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:38 pm

    artjomh wrote:
    TheArmenian wrote:Look at the missiles being loaded:



    https://fotki.yandex.ru/next/users/eagle-rost/album/461158/fullscreen/1371869

    RPK-7 with torp and with depth charge.

    artjomh, in the link provided above there is a pic of a ship carrying a sub. Two questions in this regard:

    1. Which sub is being carried? and

    2. Is there a specific name for ships that carry subs?

    As ever,Thank You.

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    Post  artjomh on Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:50 pm

    jhelb wrote:artjomh, in the link provided above there is a pic of a ship carrying a sub. Two questions in this regard:

    1. Which sub is being carried? and

    2. Is there a specific name for ships that carry subs?

    As ever,Thank You.

    1) You mean this?



    AS-38 or AS-39

    2) Mothership?

    This particular vessel is called an "Oceanographic Research Vessel".

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  jhelb on Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:08 am

    artjomh wrote:1) You mean this?

    My bad, I mean't this one


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:22 pm

    jhelb wrote:
    artjomh wrote:1) You mean this?

    My bad, I mean't this one


    That is a Proekt 971 submarine in a floating dock.


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #3

    Post  artjomh on Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:23 pm

    jhelb wrote:
    artjomh wrote:1) You mean this?

    My bad, I mean't this one


    Project 17571 floating dock "ZEYA"

    The submarine is K-263 Barnaul




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