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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  George1 on Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:16 pm

    Western instructors teach Iraqi military to shoot from Iranian and Russian sniper rifles

    Of course not unusual, given that Iran and our rifle is now probably one of the most common in the Iraqi military, but it still looks pretty funny.



















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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  George1 on Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:56 am

    The parade in Baghdad in honor of the Day of the Republic July 14

    Recall that on July 14, 1958 troops under General Abd al-Karim Qasim and Colonel Abdul Salam Aref took control of Baghdad. The royal family of the genus Hashemite led by the young King Faisal II was executed by military rebels at the walls of the Royal Palace. Thus in Iraq the monarchy was overthrown and proclaimed a republic.

    The parade, which took place today in Baghdad attended by Iraqi army divisions, the federal police and the various units of the national militia forces.


    TOS-1A "Solntsepyok" wheeling front of the podium with the Prime Minister of Iraq


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    Is this a heavy heavy Mortar??? What a Face


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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:32 pm

    The Iraqi Airforce now has 10 of the 36 F-16 they have on order.

    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — The Iraqi military received an additional four F-16 fighter jets over the weekend, US Presidential Envoy for the global coalition to counter Daesh Brett McGurk said on Monday.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  Resistance on Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:39 pm

    The Iraqi army is far more competent than SAA. Much better equipped. SAA has no modern gear and Russia refuses to supply any. Not even 1980s artillery.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  iraqidabab on Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:06 pm

    Better equipped yes but not a lot of heavy equipment, less than 200 tanks whilst the Syrian army started with 5000 or so.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  George1 on Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:59 pm

    Victorious on the Battlefield, Iraqi Army Losing Out to Corruption

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160827/1044687667/Iraq-army-advance.html


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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  airstrike on Fri Sep 02, 2016 11:20 pm

    Iraq has received additional Su-25s

    http://echelon-defense.com/2016/09/03/iraq-has-received-additional-su-25s/

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  George1 on Sat Sep 03, 2016 12:18 am

    Iraqi Air Force has 21 Su-25





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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sat Sep 03, 2016 11:38 am

    Resistance wrote:The Iraqi army is far more competent than SAA. Much better equipped. SAA has no modern gear and Russia refuses to supply any. Not even 1980s artillery.

    do not troll oki? Syrian Express was going empty right?

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  George1 on Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:40 pm

    Restoration of the old equipment and weapons in Iraq. In Basra, Iraq's continuing restoration of old weapons of the Iraqi army that after the occupation of Iraq by US troops were transported to a giant dump \ repository Base in Taji area.
    Chieftain tanks, IFV AMX-10P, 155-mm artiller GHN-45, etc., but that's got a very rare example - towed 152 mm artillery gun Chinese Type 83.
    Iraq was the only foreign customer, and in China they are only a limited number of entered service some units and artillery used during local fighting on the border of China and Vietnam in the mid-1980s.









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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  sheytanelkebir on Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:12 am

    the type-83 152mm is in widespread use in the iraqi artillery for at least 5 years now.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  George1 on Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:11 pm

    According to Iraqi media, Iraq received ten infantry fighting vehicles BMP-1 from Bulgaria. Earlier in December 2015, the Iraqi Ministry of Defence announced the receipt from Bulgaria several T-72 tanks and 12 BMP-1.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  sheytanelkebir on Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:53 am

    just a small correction.

    Iraq bought 280 BMP-1 and 60 T72s from Bulgaria. And in addition to these Bulgaria donated 10 BMP-1s to Iraq.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  iraqidabab on Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:21 pm

    We need to place an order for some SU-30SM squadrons, all these delays will leave us with a dangerous gap. The coalition will leave our airspace one day.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  sheytanelkebir on Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:43 pm

    no money... and Russia is not giving credit (their economic situation doesn't allow them either). This leaves Iraq with getting US and Chinese credit  for armaments.

    So far the US credit line has been used simply for munitions (20K+ LGBs, 5K+ hellfires) and existing orders (maintenance and service, replacement of losses, small things, not expansion or increase in capability).

    The chinese credit line is a bit "hush hush" but apparently its being used for building an air defence C4 system, munitions plants by chinese firms, more UCAVs... and FD-2000 SAMs to fill out the glaring mid-long range SAM gap.

    Iraq had discussed buying JF-17s, but they rejected them, I don't think China has any "long range" high performance fighter jets they can offer Iraq... I don't think Iraqis fancy the J-10B and I doubt the Chinese will offer the J-10C. Ultimately Russian would be best, but there's no money... Iraqis can barely pay for the Russian Helicopters (Mi28 MI35 Mi171), ordnance and T-90S assembly line. Such a shame really... if the oil price was even $10 higher then we would have seen T90S, MiG35, BMP-3 and MSTA-S in Iraq by now Sad

    hell now Iraqis can't even afford to buy more KORNETs... so they've made a deal with Belarus to locally produce the Shershen missiles instead... ultimately replacing the Kornets. Similarly we see them buying cheapo BMP-1s because they can't afford to buy BMP-3s and so on...

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  medo on Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:20 pm

    sheytanelkebir wrote:no money... and Russia is not giving credit (their economic situation doesn't allow them either). This leaves Iraq with getting US and Chinese credit  for armaments.

    So far the US credit line has been used simply for munitions (20K+ LGBs, 5K+ hellfires) and existing orders (maintenance and service, replacement of losses, small things, not expansion or increase in capability).

    The chinese credit line is a bit "hush hush" but apparently its being used for building an air defence C4 system, munitions plants by chinese firms, more UCAVs... and FD-2000 SAMs to fill out the glaring mid-long range SAM gap.

    Iraq had discussed buying JF-17s, but they rejected them, I don't think China has any "long range" high performance fighter jets they can offer Iraq... I don't think Iraqis fancy the J-10B and I doubt the Chinese will offer the J-10C. Ultimately Russian would be best, but there's no money... Iraqis can barely pay for the Russian Helicopters (Mi28 MI35 Mi171), ordnance and T-90S assembly line. Such a shame really... if the oil price was even $10 higher then we would have seen T90S, MiG35, BMP-3 and MSTA-S in Iraq by now Sad

    hell now Iraqis can't even afford to buy more KORNETs... so they've made a deal with Belarus to locally produce the Shershen missiles instead... ultimately replacing the Kornets. Similarly we see them buying cheapo BMP-1s because they can't afford to buy BMP-3s and so on...

    China could offer J-11B and J-16, but I don*t think Russia will allow China to sell their Flankers.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:58 pm

    sheytanelkebir wrote:no money... and Russia is not giving credit (their economic situation doesn't allow them either). This leaves Iraq with getting US and Chinese credit  for armaments.

    That's quite foolish of Russia, they have the cash for it.
    They just don't spend them on Iraq, which will come back to bite them in the long-term, as Syria with allienated or pro-US Iraq is a non-starter.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  OminousSpudd on Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:27 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    sheytanelkebir wrote:no money... and Russia is not giving credit (their economic situation doesn't allow them either). This leaves Iraq with getting US and Chinese credit  for armaments.

    That's quite foolish of Russia, they have the cash for it.
    They just don't spend them on Iraq, which will come back to bite them in the long-term, as Syria with allienated or pro-US Iraq is a non-starter.
    Iraq does not feel alienated by Russia. The intel-sharing Russia set up with them during the beginning of the Syria ops was proof of this (much to the chagrin of Uncle Sam). Besides, Russia was the one that jumped in and supplied the hardware when the US was unwilling to do so, if Iraq is in a desperate position again, Russia will help.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:34 pm

    OminousSpudd wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:
    sheytanelkebir wrote:no money... and Russia is not giving credit (their economic situation doesn't allow them either). This leaves Iraq with getting US and Chinese credit  for armaments.

    That's quite foolish of Russia, they have the cash for it.
    They just don't spend them on Iraq, which will come back to bite them in the long-term, as Syria with allienated or pro-US Iraq is a non-starter.
    Iraq does not feel alienated by Russia. The intel-sharing Russia set up with them during the beginning of the Syria ops was proof of this (much to the chagrin of Uncle Sam). Besides, Russia was the one that jumped in and supplied the hardware when the US was unwilling to do so, if Iraq is in a desperate position again, Russia will help.

    Be that as it may, money talks. Right now Iraq is receiving its most sophisticated fighter jets from USA, not Russia. Iraq also cancelled or did not proceed with major contracts with Russia a few months ago. Iirc it was about MiGs and T-90s, I could be wrong here. US offers FMS packages, if Russia can't compete with that, they will be kicked out of Iraq as fast as they got invited.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  OminousSpudd on Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:50 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    OminousSpudd wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:
    sheytanelkebir wrote:no money... and Russia is not giving credit (their economic situation doesn't allow them either). This leaves Iraq with getting US and Chinese credit  for armaments.

    That's quite foolish of Russia, they have the cash for it.
    They just don't spend them on Iraq, which will come back to bite them in the long-term, as Syria with allienated or pro-US Iraq is a non-starter.
    Iraq does not feel alienated by Russia. The intel-sharing Russia set up with them during the beginning of the Syria ops was proof of this (much to the chagrin of Uncle Sam). Besides, Russia was the one that jumped in and supplied the hardware when the US was unwilling to do so, if Iraq is in a desperate position again, Russia will help.

    Be that as it may, money talks. Right now Iraq is receiving its most sophisticated fighter jets from USA, not Russia. Iraq also cancelled or did not proceed with major contracts with Russia a few months ago. Iirc it was about MiGs and T-90s, I could be wrong here. US offers FMS packages, if Russia can't compete with that, they will be kicked out of Iraq as fast as they got invited.
    I wouldn't be so sure... Those F-16s were an ongoing huge debacle, and were not there when Iraq needed them most. This is interesting considering the Maliki government or any Iraqi government really are only there because the US wants them there. The Su-25s, Mi-35s, Mi-28s, made a huge difference, and Iraq got them as soon as they turned to Russia for them, but simply supplying Iraq on credit is not good business when considering Iraq's future is... unpredictable at best. Remember how much the US huffed and puffed when Iraq acquired those toys? I can only imagine the external pressure they must be under to forget Russia altogether and buy made in USA... Take this into consideration when they cancel or forego Russian offers for more expensive American gear.

    One must always take into consideration that one power is gaining, the other is waning. Only the desperately blind refuse this these days, and it would seem Iraq is not as blind as the US would like.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  zarib on Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:55 pm

    OminousSpudd wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:
    OminousSpudd wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:
    sheytanelkebir wrote:no money... and Russia is not giving credit (their economic situation doesn't allow them either). This leaves Iraq with getting US and Chinese credit  for armaments.

    That's quite foolish of Russia, they have the cash for it.
    They just don't spend them on Iraq, which will come back to bite them in the long-term, as Syria with allienated or pro-US Iraq is a non-starter.
    Iraq does not feel alienated by Russia. The intel-sharing Russia set up with them during the beginning of the Syria ops was proof of this (much to the chagrin of Uncle Sam). Besides, Russia was the one that jumped in and supplied the hardware when the US was unwilling to do so, if Iraq is in a desperate position again, Russia will help.

    Be that as it may, money talks. Right now Iraq is receiving its most sophisticated fighter jets from USA, not Russia. Iraq also cancelled or did not proceed with major contracts with Russia a few months ago. Iirc it was about MiGs and T-90s, I could be wrong here. US offers FMS packages, if Russia can't compete with that, they will be kicked out of Iraq as fast as they got invited.
    I wouldn't be so sure... Those F-16s were an ongoing huge debacle, and were not there when Iraq needed them most. This is interesting considering the Maliki government or any Iraqi government really are only there because the US wants them there. The Su-25s, Mi-35s, Mi-28s, made a huge difference, and Iraq got them as soon as they turned to Russia for them, but simply supplying Iraq on credit is not good business when considering Iraq's future is... unpredictable at best. Remember how much the US huffed and puffed when Iraq acquired those toys? I can only imagine the external pressure they must be under to forget Russia altogether and buy made in USA... Take this into consideration when they cancel or forego Russian offers for more expensive American gear.

    One must always take into consideration that one power is gaining, the other is waning. Only the desperately blind refuse this these days, and it would seem Iraq is not as blind as the US would like.

    While the USA undoubtedly applies pressure on Iraq to buy only American military gear, I'm not sure it is really the driving factor behind Iraq cancelling some of the deals with Russia. Money is the biggest problem now, they simply cannot fund some of these deals anymore. They also had to cancel several purchases and offers from the USA, including another 140 M1A1s, Strykers, Apache helicopters, and Bradley tanks. The USA gave them a loan to fund some of the other purchases as mentioned by Sheytan. I think Iraq is simply looking for someone to offer them a good deal at this point, and whether it is Russia, China, USA, or someone else, they will buy from them.

    They're also getting more interested in technology transfer deals. There is news of them securing deals to manufacture Fateh 110 missiles, Cherchen ATGMs, T-72 upgrade program, and others.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  sheytanelkebir on Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:45 pm

    yea. its purely about the money (or lack of) now. Iraq is pretty much "non aligned" as of today... so they host both NATO and US forces and commands... alongside Russian Advisors, Intel Sharing office and Iranian IRGC advisors... meanwhile there's a whole team of Chinese officers operating out of Kut Air Base... and a few miles down the road Koreans are building a new Airbase at Suwayra. The US has accepted  the "multi-polar" relations in Iraq, and its also a way of keeping communications channels open (the Russian/Iranian/Syrian/Iraqi intel office is only a couple of kilometers from the US Embassy!).

    But the issue with the Russian weapons orders that have been "put on hold" is purely based on Iraq's lack of credit worthiness from a Russian perspective. Whilst the Chinese and Americans are willing to throw a few billion here and there to further their interests. Thing is Russians do control a few oil fields in Iraq (not as many as the chinese of course)... so I would have thought they could come to an agreeable deal on credit for weapons... but sadly they haven't yet as far as we know Sad

    Lets see what happens in 2017... things can turn quickly.


    PS Zarib, Iraq didn't cancel any of those above mentioned items from the US (apaches, additional 175 abrams, 220 bradleys, 24 AT6C etc...). Iraq NEVER ordered them in the first place and only asked for an offer, for comparison with other offers... and for example the apache lost in competition against the Mi28Ne, the M1A1SA lost against the T90S, the M2A2 Bradley lost against the BMP-3 and as far as I know the AT-6C lost against the CH-4 UCAV.

    Go ahead and search... you won't find a single FMS contract for any of the above items only a DSCA offer.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  sheytanelkebir on Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:53 pm

    medo wrote:
    China could offer J-11B and J-16, but I don*t think Russia will allow China to sell their Flankers.

    Yea I'm pretty sure that licencing restrictions means that China cannot export their locally made flanker variants... which is why we see them trying to sell JF-17 and J10As...

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    Post  miketheterrible on Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:23 am

    A while ago, US froze Iraqi money in US banks of something around $75B or less that was to be used to purchase Russian gear. After negotiations, US unfroze the accounts but Iraq decided not to buy Russian gear and purchased American. Specifically continued on the F-16 deal when they were threatening to cancel it (Iraq) in the first place. Iraq may not have the money. But to make matters worst, the US is constantly pressuring Iraq to not turn to Russia for its equipment.

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