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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  TR1 on Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:59 pm

    Not Russian news, but Iraq is refusing to take the latest BTR-4 batch from Ukraine.
    They have been sitting on their boat for months @ pier, after the Iraqis found faults on some of the vehicles.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  TR1 on Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:15 am

    Photo:

    http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/bmpd/38024980/925016/925016_original.jpg

    The cracks on the BTR-4s.

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    Iraqi Mi-35

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  sheytanelkebir on Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:17 pm

    Last night the Mi35M helicopters got their baptism of fire. Three of them entered into combat operations against ISIS in the anbar deserts and valleys.

    Didn't take long!!

    If Mi28Ns are delivered sometime soon, we may see them in combat before spring.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  Flyboy77 on Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:01 am

    sheytanelkebir wrote:Last night the Mi35M helicopters got their baptism of fire. Three of them entered into combat operations against ISIS in the anbar deserts and valleys.

    Didn't take long!!

    If Mi28Ns are delivered sometime soon, we may see them in combat before spring.

    Good news. Probably the first time that the Mi-35M has seen combat then. Is there any video of the operations?

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  sheytanelkebir on Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:07 pm

    not publicised yet. but videos from operations by King Airs and AC-208s have been published so its only a matter of time before we see combat footage.

    aparently they used a mix of missiles, rockets and cannon fire... so should be pretty spectacular stuff!

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  Werewolf on Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:31 pm

    Good news. Probably the first time that the Mi-35M has seen combat then. Is there any video of the operations? wrote:

    It has already seen combat in caucasus, if i recall right there was even a guncamera video of it somewhere. Where the operation leader yells at the crew.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  a89 on Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:42 pm

    This video shows the Mi-35M attack. It is really hard to avoid being detected by thermal sights if you don't have the proper gear.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhMS7k-zVr0

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  Hachimoto on Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:18 pm

    a89 wrote:This video shows the Mi-35M attack. It is really hard to avoid being detected by thermal sights if you don't have the proper gear.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhMS7k-zVr0

    how to know it is mi-35?

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  sheytanelkebir on Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:48 pm

    those videos are of AC-208 combat caravans firing Hellfire missiles.

    since the AC-208s carry only 2 hellfires, most of the terrorists inevitably escape the attack by scattering.

    which is why the army is employing now Mi35M and Mi17s with loads of rockets....

    from today... Mi35M over Anbar.


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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  Flyboy77 on Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:41 am

    sheytanelkebir wrote:those videos are of AC-208 combat caravans firing Hellfire missiles.

    since the AC-208s carry only 2 hellfires, most of the terrorists inevitably escape the attack by scattering.

    which is why the army is employing now Mi35M and Mi17s with loads of rockets....

    from today... Mi35M over Anbar.


    Awesome. Please post more Videos or photos when they come up?

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  TR1 on Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:12 pm

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/705873.html

    Good thing Iraq did not take the BTR-4s, look at those hull cracks :O !
    Apparently they were created in a insufficiently prepared, cold space and hence cracked on cooling.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  sheytanelkebir on Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:15 pm

    I blame the russians!

    if the Ukrainians had cheap gas they would have stuck to the correct smelting and cooling processes without corner cutting!

    /s

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  flamming_python on Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:28 pm

    Iraq seems to have very deep political divisions that tie its hands.

    First the Kurds showed the central government who's boss when they attempted to send forces there, and now the trouble with ISIS

    Let's hope that the broken political system won't infringe too much on the Iraqi military's effectiveness.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  flamming_python on Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:31 pm

    TR1 wrote:http://bmpd.livejournal.com/705873.html

    Good thing Iraq did not take the BTR-4s, look at those hull cracks :O !
    Apparently they were created in a insufficiently prepared, cold space and hence cracked on cooling.

    And altogether the production quality seems to be just shit, pardon my Francais.

    Rusted bolts, ready-to-peel paint..

    Mind you some Russian enterprises are no better.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  zg18 on Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:56 pm

    flamming_python wrote:Iraq seems to have very deep political divisions that tie its hands.

    First the Kurds showed the central government who's boss when they attempted to send forces there, and now the trouble with ISIS

    Let's hope that the broken political system won't infringe too much on the Iraqi military's effectiveness.

    Not really , Kurds and new Iraqi elites are nowhere near that level of enmity like it was during Saddam times , and all these rebellions in mostly Sunni Anbar province are sponsored by GCC.

    What doesn`t kill you it makes you stronger , at the end of day , Iraq may well have the best COIN troops at disposal in MENA region (excluding Israel) which only need to be enlarged.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Special_Operations_Forces

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  TR1 on Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:42 am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsuID_YeQFU

    Wow, nice video from Iraq. Wonder if they will use the Mi-35 as a SOF transport bird as the video seems to imply.


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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  Werewolf on Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:06 am

    They are lulled pretty tight into american military industrial complex, M4/16s for an iraqi harsh environment...bad choice.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  Flyboy77 on Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:38 am

    Iraqi Mi 35 and Mi 17 strikes Al Qaeda in Khalidiya Island

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=90c_1390410277

    00:36 - anyone think that could of been a AT-6 being fired?

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  sheytanelkebir on Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:09 pm

    you all may have heard of Iraq's recently released order for Ah64E apaches.

    30 helos (including 6 loaners)
    about 1500 hellfires in three contracts.
    standard setup with training and support.

    cost?

    $6.2Bn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    over $200M per apache.

    is that a new world record for gouging?

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  Werewolf on Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:30 pm

    sheytanelkebir wrote:you all may have heard of Iraq's recently released order for Ah64E apaches.

    30 helos (including 6 loaners)
    about 1500 hellfires in three contracts.
    standard setup with training and support.

    cost?

    $6.2Bn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    over $200M per apache.

    is that a new world record for gouging?

    Someone is with the entire head in someones elses ass.


    PS: All my fears that Iraqi MoD is deeply stuck in the american ass getting more and more reinforced and propably true.

    3 bln USD for Apaches alone without the hellfires, training and support costs have still a price tag per unit of roughly 100 mln USD, that is the worst deal in history of deals.
    No indepented country would buy such mediocre quality for so much money when they already have bought superior systems like Ka-52 along with Mi-28 and Mi-35. It is a nightmare when it comes to logistics and maintenance costs.

    My fear this helicopters especially Ka-52 are actually for USA to study, they did such sceams more than once before with MSTA-S and T-80's bought by Marocco and immidiatley shipped to US.

    It smells to much like someones crapped in the wrong yard.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  GarryB on Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:53 pm

    00:36 - anyone think that could of been a AT-6 being fired?

    Yes.

    Fairly low launch signature and single weapon fired and single point target hit suggests it was an ATGM rather than a rocket attack.


    Rockets are generally fired at area targets and fired in volleys.

    I would suspect the weapon fired was either a Shturm or Ataka... both are fairly similar... the former likely in stocks but likely not in production as they would be replaced by the better performing Ataka.

    I believe the ASCC codename for Ataka is AT-9.


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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  TR1 on Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:43 pm

    GRAPHIC WARNING, TERRORIST PROPAGANDA.
    Did not know things were this bad.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d5d_1390322550

    Jesus shit, RIP to the Iraqi troops. Hope the Russian gov accelerates any deliveries to Iraq of weapon systems that can send these cunts flying in a dozen pieces.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  flamming_python on Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:28 pm

    TR1 wrote:GRAPHIC WARNING, TERRORIST PROPAGANDA.
    Did not know things were this bad.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d5d_1390322550

    Jesus shit, RIP to the Iraqi troops. Hope the Russian gov accelerates any deliveries to Iraq of weapon systems that can send these cunts flying in a dozen pieces.

    No quarter given, no quarter expected.

    This is how both sides have been doing things.

    But RIP to the troops. They are still the right side, and the Jihadists are still scum.

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    Re: Iraqi Armed Forces: Discussion and News

    Post  TR1 on Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:30 pm

    Well, have you seen any videos of Iraqi gov troops executing, whipping and doing the sort of stuff to surrendering fighters?

    Personally I have not.

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