The Situation in the Ukraine. #16

Cowboy's daughter wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

Ghoster wrote:Inside Putin's secret 'troll factory': How mother turned whistleblower to reveal the secrets of shadowy propaganda unit where staff were told to call Obama a 'monkey' and Ukraine 'Nazis' online

She described how armies of online foot soldiers pose as ordinary Russians to write hundreds of biased comments on social media.

They comment on topics such as sanctions, the Ukraine conflict, the seizure of Crimea, the shooting down of flight MH17 and assassinations of Putin enemies - like Boris Nemtsov -

Shit, we're busted guys.

But seriously, is anyone in the West even stupid enough to believe this nonsense?

Yes comrade, it is time to execute extraction protocol. We shall all assemble at the harbor where KGB midget-sub under command of Colonel Python will pick us up.

But first open the box labeled "Russia-Stronkk!!!!11!!" located under your PC. Inside you will find silenced Makarov pistol, bottle of vodka, GLONASS transmitter, Russian flag, cyanide capsule, ushanka hat and a sandwich.

You may now eat the sandwich.      

     


But seriously, this talk of "payed trolls" is just the 21'st century version of expressions like"American spy" or "Soviet sleeper agent" that were popular during Cold War and were used by idiots when they would run out of intelligent arguments to support their claims. Over here we had expression "enemy spy" or some BS like that, can't remember anymore really... I am sure today Norks say "Southern spy", Saudis say "Iranian infidel" etc, etc....

It is not just politics, I seen people on gaming forums accuse others of being payed trolls for EA or Activision or others...
Basically "Reducto ad Hitlerum", only in this case it is "Reducto ad Trollum".
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And another thing. They say that we are payed trolls, so did any one of you guys get any money, because I have been working pro-bono for 8 months already.  
Really, at this point I would settle for free burger and a coffee at the start of my shift.

Hell, Kremlin could even be generous enough to get us some Starbucks.....  

Flagship Victory wrote:Putin called Obama to discuss Ukraine, IS. Totally unexpected. Plus, IS is not the baddest in Syria. The baddest in Syria is Nusra which is backed by the US. Can't believe Putin bought into US media hype.    Putin needs to pull himself away from western media like euronews and CNN  

http://news.yahoo.com/putin-calls-obama-discuss-group-ukraine-white-house-223052496.html

OminousSpudd wrote:

Flagship Victory wrote:Putin called Obama to discuss Ukraine, IS. Totally unexpected. Plus, IS is not the baddest in Syria. The baddest in Syria is Nusra which is backed by the US. Can't believe Putin bought into US media hype.    Putin needs to pull himself away from western media like euronews and CNN  

http://news.yahoo.com/putin-calls-obama-discuss-group-ukraine-white-house-223052496.html

Now you're just going full retard. Never go full retard.

ISIL/Al Nusra same difference. US funds and plays both.

Flagship Victory wrote:Putin called Obama to discuss Ukraine, IS. Totally unexpected. Plus, IS is not the baddest in Syria. The baddest in Syria is Nusra which is backed by the US. Can't believe Putin bought into US media hype.    Putin needs to pull himself away from western media like euronews and CNN  

"President Obama reiterated the need for Russia to fulfill its commitments under the Minsk agreements, including the removal of all Russian troops and equipment from Ukrainian territory,"

The US considers Crimea as Ukrainian territory, so this would mean Russia pulling troops out of Crimea and give Crimea back to Ukraine. See? Wasn't I right when I said we are on step 6?

http://news.yahoo.com/putin-calls-obama-discuss-group-ukraine-white-house-223052496.html

It doesn't matter what Putin thinks. Every time Putin calls the American president, he is sure to get an earful: Get the F out of Ukraine or else sanctions

Give Crimea back to Ukraine or else no normalization of relation between the west and Russia. That is reality. Doesn't matter how many times Putin phones the American president.

Obama is the softest American president. After 2016, the next American president will ship Paladin artillery to Maidan to shell Donetsk. Believe it or not, I'm telling you all right here right now.

BKP wrote:^ Heh, I don't believe for a second Obama actually said that. It's more likely WH staffers crafted that tag-line after the fact and the media duly repeated it.

auslander wrote:I can't believe you lads spent three pages talking to that troll. Shortly his two alter egos will appear. Don't feed a troll/keyboard commando.

wrote:На Херсонщине «Правый сектор» жестоко избил и ограбил украинского боксера родом из Крыма
In the Kherson region "Right Sector" brutally beaten and robbed Ukrainian boxer originally from Crimea


On Monday, June 22 in the village of Kherson region Kalanchak people in camouflage uniforms from the right sector beaten, robbed and subjected to severe torture Ukrainian athlete originally from Crimea Sergey Pivovarenko.
This "Prestupnosti.NET" said Sergei himself.

Pivovarenko said that after the annexation of the Crimea moved to the Mykolayiv region. In the Kherson region athlete visiting a friend for a week, where the incident occurred to him.

- We have transferred our belongings from Crimea and documents - all this was in the house in Kalanchak. We returned at 6 pm home, where we attacked men in camouflage. There was an ambush. They were lying on the ground around the perimeter, on the radio broadcast information to each other, that is, have been prepared. Inside, too, we have been people, about two dozen. They searched our house, all the things in the house knocked the door. When we tried zalomat, I said to my friend, that he was running away. And I was left to figure out who they are and what. These people began to threaten arms, knocked to the ground, handcuffed and a bag on his head, began to beat, - said Sergey.

In addition, the guys took all the money and possessions, among which were the big-ticket items and values, as well as all the documents proving the identity, awards and so on.

Their actions have explained the attackers, according to Sergei, he alleged saboteurs and terrorists.

- In this case, questions were mainly related to where I have hidden the money, what kind of business it is, - he added.
Once attackers have gathered all things to the house drove two cars says Sergei, who was immersed in the loot and the athlete in handcuffs. He was taken for a settlement in the field, where they were beaten and tortured.

- Used a stun gun, baton, scratching his back with a knife, broke out his hands, fired a pistol near his head - said the athlete and showed marks of severe beatings.



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17 Канал wrote:Forbidden Donbass. Brigade "tag" p.1
June 13 after 22 pm on the Ukrainian side (and presumably MAT battalion Kyiv-1), which controls the village of Marinka (near Donetsk) launched an attack on the position of the International Brigade "tag" of the Republican Guard DNI (located 400 m. From the village). First it was shelled Base Brigade 82 mm mortars. - But the fighters "Fifteen" in no hurry to answer, trying to comply with the order and not to succumb to provocations and not to "light up" their location for gunners. After about 20 minutes APU began a barrage of shelling using large-caliber firearms - and DNI-sheep responded with fire from the powerful PC, Cliff, AGS, PTRD and then had to use grenades. Despite the presence of mines - they were not allowed to use because "there was no order." Hard fight under a flurry of bullets lasted 2 hours. After that was a pause, during which I was able to move to the base of "Fifteen" in the basement.

News-Front wrote:
We have something to meet the enemy! - First Slavic battalion DNI

Store ammunition in an abandoned fortified area of the Ukrainian army

Последние новости wrote:Destroyed tanks in the area ATO!

Khepesh wrote:Cassad has now written about the situation at Shirokino confirming that there was a very hard fight. However, the situation is not yet fully clear and more info is needed. Rozhin does make a very important point that ukrops are not shouting about any "victory", so the "kotych" report can be flushed down lavatory, along with reports from "sych". http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2253812.html

Flagship Victory wrote:

Mike E wrote:The US's only plan was to destabilize... The taking of Crimea was an independent event IMHO.

Crimea was definitely part of the plan. The US planned for Russia to absorb Crimea. Or else the US would not have the motive to demonize Russia and put sanctions on Russia. What the US did not anticipate was the EU did not put sanctions on Russia. So the US had to do the ad hoc MH17 shootdown to have the EU put sanctions on.

opasnie wrote:Powered intelligence ... Underwear Lozove (under Debaltseve)

Генеральна прокуратура України wrote:The house, which belongs to the family of Chairman of the Appeal Court. Kyiv searched

Military Live wrote:Volnovakha outpost. Mnohokylometrovaya Queue.

Khepesh wrote:"kotych" retracted his post about Shirokino and apologised for being too hasty.
I still think 5-6 weeks before war, but will not be surprised if it happens any day now and could even be the result of something unplanned, war is full of unexpected surprises.