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    George1

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    Re: AK-12 Rifle Discussion

    Post  George1 on Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:03 am

    MOSCOW, June 20. /TASS/. The newest AK-12 assault rifle produced by the Kalashnikov small arms manufacturer for the Ratnik ‘soldier of the future’ combat gear has passed all the stages of its operational evaluation in the troops, Kalashnikov press office told TASS on Tuesday.

    "It [the automatic rifle] has passed all the stages of its operational evaluation in troops," the press office said.

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    The AK-12 is expected to become operational in the Russian Army as the basic long-barrel firearm.

    Kalashnikov Group Director for External Relations Sofiya Ivanova earlier told TASS that the operational evaluation of the AK-12 assault rifle for the Ratnik combat outfit will be completed in the Russian Army in the first half of this year.


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    Re: AK-12 Rifle Discussion

    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:39 am

    AK-12 and AK-15



    Interesting short assault rifle:
    One with an integrated silencer and another as a standard shorter rifle.

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    Re: AK-12 Rifle Discussion

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:37 pm

    ...

    It is the AK-15 on both pictures, only one is in 5,45 and the other in 7,62.

    Also the AK MA (AD MA) is the next step and would give Russia the same exact kind of short-action short-stroke gas piston that everyone in the "developed world" is purchasing or procuring.
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    Re: AK-12 Rifle Discussion

    Post  Luq man on Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:59 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:It is the AK-15 on both pictures, only one is in 5,45 and the other in 7,62.

    No, it is the AK-12K and the AK-15K on those pictures. The only difference though is the kaliber AK-12K 5.45mm and AK-15K 7.62mm

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    Re: AK-12 Rifle Discussion

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:55 pm

    Luq man wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:It is the AK-15 on both pictures, only one is in 5,45 and the other in 7,62.

    No, it is the AK-12K and the AK-15K on those pictures. The only difference though is the kaliber AK-12K 5.45mm and AK-15K 7.62mm


    Nope, the AK-12 has a completely different receiver...that has since been abandoned.

    AK 12

    AK 15.



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    Re: AK-12 Rifle Discussion

    Post  miketheterrible on Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:12 pm

    What do you think Russian MoD should purchase for Ratnik?
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    Re: AK-12 Rifle Discussion

    Post  KiloGolf on Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:17 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Luq man wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:It is the AK-15 on both pictures, only one is in 5,45 and the other in 7,62.

    No, it is the AK-12K and the AK-15K on those pictures. The only difference though is the kaliber AK-12K 5.45mm and AK-15K 7.62mm


    Nope, the AK-12 has a completely different receiver...that has since been abandoned.

    AK 12

    AK 15.




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    Re: AK-12 Rifle Discussion

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:17 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:What do you think Russian MoD should purchase for Ratnik?


    A rifle that can fit every and single demand of the tender.

    As it is, they better stick with the 74M until both 3 guns, MA/AK15/A545 are tested properly. From what I see if the MA is properly sorted it will be the actual winner.

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    Re: AK-12 Rifle Discussion

    Post  Luq man on Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:22 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Nope, the AK-12 has a completely different receiver...that has since been abandoned.

    Didn't they replace that older AK-12 with the newer version?
    http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/09/06/breaking-kalashnikov-concern-discontinues-ak-12-replaces-new-ak-12/

    That guy in the video clearly says that this is the AK-12K and the only differance with AK-15K is the kaliber...?

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    Re: AK-12 Rifle Discussion

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:44 am

    Luq man wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:Nope, the AK-12 has a completely different receiver...that has since been abandoned.

    Didn't they replace that older AK-12 with the newer version?
    http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/09/06/breaking-kalashnikov-concern-discontinues-ak-12-replaces-new-ak-12/

    That guy in the video clearly says that this is the AK-12K and the only differance with AK-15K is the kaliber...?


    That guy in the video is the same guy who demonstrated the real AK-12 back in 2016.

    Also they didn't replaced the "older" AK-12 (because the AK-12 is a long stroke piston action, thumb ambidextrous selector, polymer furniture equipped etc etc rifle). This is a Dragunov short stroke action, with an AK74M styled receiver, no ambidextrous controls and retaining a front-post. This rifle started its course as the AK 400.

    Also for a long time 'the Russian Military had only one caliber"...The face palm is so strong it needs a chinese tactical team.
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    Re: AK-12 Rifle Discussion

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:01 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:What do you think Russian MoD should purchase for Ratnik?


    A rifle that can fit every and single demand of the tender.

    As it is, they better stick with the 74M until both 3 guns, MA/AK15/A545 are tested properly. From what I see if the MA is properly sorted it will be the actual winner.

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    1. Wait, wait but MA isnt it a bit to short, for say, kind of Syrian assignment? where distances are larger, open spaces?

    2. Is Russian to field new caliber anytime in foreseeable future (like 6x49mm )

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