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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Berkut on Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:29 pm

    medo wrote:http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/77017/

    121 aviation repair plant repair and modernize MiG-29 (9-13) b/n 03 most probably to MiG-29SM standard and it seems it will go to Armenia.

    There is no proof they are doing any modernization to 9-13/9-12 frames. This is almost certainly just refurbishment unless proven otherwise.

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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  George1 on Fri May 20, 2016 5:49 pm

    Russia’s MiG-35 to Boast State-of-the-Art Ship-Relative Navigation System

    Russia’s MiG-35 multirole fighter jets will soon be equipped with the latest platform-less inertial navigation system, Igor Nasenkov, deputy head of the Radio-Electronic Technologies Concern (KRET), told RIA Novosti.

    The adaptation of the navigation system designed for shipborne aircraft will be completed in July, Nasenkov said, adding that work proceeded according to plan.

    The MiG-29K/KUB fighters are now being equipped with the LINS-100RS inertial system, while the MIG-35s will receive the BINS-SP2, which is absolutely quiet, solid and user-friendly.

    The system is designed to determine the location of the object, complex processing and delivering navigation and flight information. It is also able to determine the coordinates and parameters of an object in the autonomous mode and in the absence of terrestrial, marine or space signals.

    The MiG-35 is a multipurpose 4 ++ generation fighter, it is a further development of the MiG-29K/KUB and MiG-29M/M2 combat aircraft with improved combat effectiveness and versatility, as well as improved performance.

    The Radio-Electronic Technologies Concern, Russia’s biggest in its field, is part of Rostec.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160520/1039984725/russia-plane-navigation.html#ixzz49DBEUp9N


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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  franco on Fri May 20, 2016 7:07 pm

    Berkut wrote:
    medo wrote:http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/77017/

    121 aviation repair plant repair and modernize MiG-29 (9-13) b/n 03 most probably to MiG-29SM standard and it seems it will go to Armenia.

    There is no proof they are doing any modernization to 9-13/9-12 frames. This is almost certainly just refurbishment unless proven otherwise.

    Was reported earlier on this thread. Last year and early this. New radar, ejection seats and engines are part of the upgrade.

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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Berkut on Fri May 20, 2016 11:56 pm

    Source? Never heard about/seen. Color me very skeptical.

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    Post  medo on Thu May 26, 2016 9:26 pm

    I would like to ask one question regarding those MiG-29M2 (35D), which were produced last year for unknown foreign customer. Most probably they are finished now and most probably customer pilots are now training on them in Russia before they will be delivered. Anyone know, where those jets are now and if there is any picture of them to see in what colors they are to guess who is the customer?

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    Post  DB1234 on Thu May 26, 2016 9:58 pm

    medo wrote:I would like to ask one question regarding those MiG-29M2 (35D), which were produced last year for unknown foreign customer. Most probably they are finished now and most probably customer pilots are now training on them in Russia before they will be delivered. Anyone know, where those jets are now and if there is any picture of them to see in what colors they are to guess who is the customer?

    Perhaps Egypt http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=43029:russian-confirms-egypt-as-north-african-buyer-of-50-mig-29s&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107

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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  medo on Fri May 27, 2016 4:18 pm

    DB1234 wrote:
    medo wrote:I would like to ask one question regarding those MiG-29M2 (35D), which were produced last year for unknown foreign customer. Most probably they are finished now and most probably customer pilots are now training on them in Russia before they will be delivered. Anyone know, where those jets are now and if there is any picture of them to see in what colors they are to guess who is the customer?

    Perhaps Egypt http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=43029:russian-confirms-egypt-as-north-african-buyer-of-50-mig-29s&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107

    They were in production for unknown customer before Egypt signed a contract for 50 MiG-29M jets. They are most probably not for Egypt.

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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  George1 on Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:28 am

    Two new MiG-29SMT delivered in 2016

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1948848.html


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    Russia's MiG-35 Fulcrum-F: Ready for Battle against America's F-22 or F-35?

    Post  nemrod on Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:34 pm



    http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/russias-mig-35-fulcrum-f-ready-battle-against-americas-f-22-16536


    Russia's MiG-35 Fulcrum-F: Ready for Battle against America's F-22 or F-35?

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    The Mikoyan MiG-35 Fulcrum-F is set to enter testing in 2017 with deliveries to the Russian Aerospace Forces starting in 2018. Flight tests for the new advanced Fulcrum derivative—which were originally scheduled for this summer—have been pushed back due to production delays.

    “Development work under contract with the Ministry of Defense on the MiG-35 is currently ongoing,” Vladimir Mikhailov, the head of United Aircraft Corporation’s (UAC) directorate of military aircraft, told the Moscow-based TASS news agency. “They are a little behind schedule because of some fault with enterprise cooperation delaying deliveries of components, but we can say that in general the problem is solved.”

    However, UAC’s Russian Aircraft Corporation-MiG division expects to make up for the production delays next year. “We will catch up with the schedule in 2017,” Mikhailov said. “The will be a very brief trial of the machine since the prototype has already repeatedly proven itself. The aircraft will be supplied to the VKS [Vozdushno-Kosmicheskiye Sily] in 2018.”

    UAC has not signed a production contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense. That will have to wait until the MiG-35 completes testing. However, the Russian Air Force was previously expected to buy an initial batch of thirty-seven MiG-35s. The jet is expected to become operational in 2020.

    The MiG-35 is an advanced derivative of the original MiG-29. While the airframe is similar, the aircraft is practically a new design under the hood. Compared the to original Fulcrum, the MiG-35 adds a completely new fly-by-wire control system, a lighter airframe, more fuel capacity, more efficient engines and thrust-vectoring nozzles. Moreover, the Russians are developing single and two-seater versions of the jet based on the same outer mold line to maximize commonality.

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    More importantly, the MiG-35 will add a completely new avionics suite. The new jet will incorporate Russia’s first operational fighter-mounted active electronically scanned array radar—called the Zhuk-MA. The radar is able to track fighter-sized targets at ranges greater than 85 nautical miles.

    The MiG-35 will also be equipped with a unique optical locator system (OLS)—which is a passive air-to-air electro-optical sensor that operates in both visual and infrared wavelengths. The Russians believe that the OLS sensor will be useful in countering stealthy aircraft like the F-22 and F-35. The MiG-35 will also incorporate a powerful electronic warfare suite—an area where the Russians excel.

    RSK-MiG—which falls under the aegis of the United Aircraft Corporation alongside arch-rival Sukhoi—hopes to recapture some the Mikoyan design bureau’s old glory with the new advanced MiG-29 derivative. RSK-MiG’s Fulcrum product line has been overshadowed by Sukhoi’s larger and more capable Flanker series in the years since the collapse of the Soviet Union. The MiG-35 might be the RSK-MiG’s last hope of regaining some of its lost market share on the international fighter market.

    Dave Majumdar is the defense editor for the National Interest. You can follow him on Twitter: @davemajumdar.


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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Isos on Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:20 pm

    Did Hungary sell its Mig-29 ? They oofered 24 of them for 50 million$, the price of 1 Su-30.

    Lot of countries could have bought it, Serbia, India, Venezuela ... with an upgrade to SMT and new AESA radar could power up any airforce.

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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Austin on Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:18 pm

    Mig-29 and Indian AirForce

    http://bharatrakshak.wikia.com/wiki/MiG-29

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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  nemrod on Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:08 pm

    Austin wrote:Mig-29 and Indian AirForce

    http://bharatrakshak.wikia.com/wiki/MiG-29
    Thx very much for this useful news. In fact the duel between Mig-29 and F-15/F-16/F-18 is pointless, as the Mig-29 was always ahead regarding dogfights, it is useful to add the myth of BVR is senseless, then the WVR still prevail in aerial combats, then manoeuvrability is a critical issue. Against the F-16, the last versions of Mig-21 could be enough. Do not forget that Syrian Mig-21 bis downed successfully several israeli F-16 A that is more manoeuvrable than F-16C.
    In 1991 to down few iraqi Mig-29, US had to outnumbered Iraqi air force, meanwhile many US aircrafts were likely downed by iraqi air force. In Serbia, most of the Mig-29 during 1999 were unable to fly because of lack of spare parts, lack of training pilots*, and lack of funds, US had  to outnumbered serbian air force too.  
    But the Mig-29 could be challenged by the following aircrafts : EAF Typhoon, Saab Grippen, and the french Dassault Rafale.

    With instantaneous turn rate at 28°deg, I wonder whether the Mig-29 is enough to challenge the F-22. The F-22's instantaneous turn rate is 28°deg too, hence with its upgrade avionic Mig-29 could still nowadays be a redoubtable challenger for the F-22.

    *Serbia did not lack of very competent and skill pilots, but the context in that period, high serbian responsibles did not invest into training their pilots. Serbian pilots did have only few hours of training per year, if I remember 20 hours/year. At this step U could not ask a pilot to do miracles, meanwhile US fought serbian air force in optimal conditions. Hence it is easy to pretend that their flying crates aka the F-15, F-16 or F-18 to be superior than the Mig-29.

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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  GarryB on Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:47 am

    Most of that information is about MiG-29SMT or downgraded german MiG-29.

    MiG-29M2 and MiG-35 would take things to a much greater challenge level for opponents and opposition...


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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  nemrod on Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:47 pm

    To GarryB.
    GarryB wrote:Most of that information is about MiG-29SMT or downgraded german MiG-29.
    Nevertheless still redoubtable, still among the best fighters in the world.

    GarryB wrote:
    MiG-29M2 and MiG-35 would take things to a much greater challenge level for opponents and opposition...
    As this information is still classified it would be interesting to know the Instantaneous Turn Rate of the Mig-35. I know that the F-22 would not exceed 28° degres, and even the less manoeuvrable F-15 managed to take out the Raptor in exercises, what would be the result with an opponent aircraft as the Mig-29 ? I know that the SU-30's ITR is around 35° degres making this aircraft the most manoeuvrable aircraft in the world. Nevetheless, in my view, the Mig-35's ITR would be better.

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    Post  max steel on Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:49 pm

    Ukraine to Supply Missiles for Polish MiG-29 Fighter Aircraft


    The Ukrainian state owned enterprise SpetsTechnoExport will supply the MiG-29 fighter jets of the Polish Armed Forces with the medium range air-to-air missiles Р-27Р1.

    The tender of the Polish army has been won by a consortium of Ukrainian SpetsTechnoExport and Polish WB Electronics. The information was published on the Facebook page of the Ukrainian Air Force.

    “In October last year, Polish military announced a tender for purchase of 40 air-to-air missiles with the range of 50-80 kilometers for MiG-29 fighter jets. This is the first such purchase of the guided missiles after the aircraft were initially acquired 20 years ago. According to the tender requirements the missiles that are being delivered have to be manufactured not earlier than a year before their scheduled delivery.

    “Polish military inspectorate has called the Polish-Ukrainian consortium the winner of the tender giving the consortium 80 points according to requirements of the tender,” the statement read.

    The missiles will be delivered to the 23rd base of Polish Tactical Aviation.

    SpetsTechnoExport is the only manufacturer of such missiles outside of Russia and this, according to the statement of the Ukrainian Air Force, has significantly contributed to the joint Polish-Ukrainian consortium winning the tender.

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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  JohninMK on Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:28 am

    The sales campaign is clearly underway. "If you can't wait years for an SU then please form an orderly queue outside our offices" is likely to be one of their sales pitches.

    Test flights of Russia’s fourth-generation MiG-35 fighter aircraft (Fulcrum-F) will begin later this summer and last into next year, the United Aircraft Corporation’s (UAC) General Director Sergey Korotkov said Tuesday.

    SOCHI (Sputnik) – Korotkov indicated that MiG-35 serial deliveries to the ministry could be contracted after the tests.

    "The aircraft is completing the general assembly stage, and should move to flight tests in accordance with the schedule. We will begin state tests as part of the Ministry of Defense program at the end of summer. The tests will be carried out until next year," Korotkov told RIA Novosti at the Sirius education center for gifted children.

    The MiG-35 is a multipurpose 4 ++ generation fighter, it is a further development of the MiG-29K/KUB and MiG-29M/M2 combat aircraft with improved combat effectiveness and versatility, as well as improved performance.


    http://sputniknews.com/military/20160719/1043257810/russian-mig-fighter-flights.html

    Just a reminder of its air show demo last summer


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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  franco on Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:26 pm

    MiG-35: it is very difficult to take off

    At the recently held a press conference, Chief Designer of the UAC (United Aircraft Corporation) Sergei Korotkov said that in late August 2016 to begin flight tests of the MiG-35 fighter. Tests will be carried out until mid-2017. At the end it is planned to conclude a contract for the supply of a production aircraft to the Ministry of Defence.

    News from the category of good. However, as in any complex system (and test the new plane a simple matter will not name), there are nuances.

    And the most unpleasant nuance is that the MiG-35, which will be tested, and the MiG-35, which 14 years ago began to be created in the RAC "MiG" - is not the same thing.

    It sounds absurd, but true.

    MiG-35, which will be released on the state tests, - an advanced and upgraded MiG-29M / M2. Externally, the difference find difficult, like airplanes. But the main problem lies in the fact that at the moment are not prepared all generation fighter system 4 ++. And representatives of the RAC "MiG" is recognized. So a "plus sign" yet it is not.

    The question arises: what is the problem, because the work on the MiG-35 are almost 15 years old.

    Many experts believe the main reason for the delay behind the scenes battle between Sukhoi and RSK "MiG". Lost the last. And this struggle did not begin yesterday. But in the end Sukhoi won a landslide victory in the battle for the budget. A "Miguén" and other competitors got a secondary role and financing of the residual. That had an impact on the speed of new developments.

    It is difficult to say whether this is good. Competition - a fine thing. But even in the Great Patriotic War there was a kind of separation of light fighters Yakovlev and Lavochkin heavier. And even their task at the end of the war put different, based on the performance characteristics. Who does not believe, read Golodnikova.

    And further, this trend continued. Only in the post-war years OKB Lavochkin gradually switched to missile and space technology, and in the design and development of fighter aircraft Sukhoi passed previously occupied mostly bombers and attack aircraft.

    Personally, my opinion that the reason for this was the collapse of the Project T-4, which actually represents a serious competitive developments Tupolev. And it was decided to place all in places.

    Tupolev bombers and missile carriers involved. Sukhoi fighter-bombers and heavy fighters. OKB Mikoyan and Gurevich light fighters.

    In the general scheme of a little do not fit the Su-24/34 and Su-25. But the genius of Paul Osipovich as a designer, too, will not vpisheshsya. The fact that the dry was a genius, as if no discussion. As well as the fact that many of its projects have been "hacked" just because an understanding of the times ahead.

    But back in our time.

    In 2002, there was a question of replacing obsolete MiG-29 advanced MiG-35. That was quite logical. But for some reason, the representatives of the Sukhoi Design Bureau began to express the opinion that it is necessary to replace a "more thorough" machine. The idea of ​​a kind, but for some reason, the Ministry of Defense agreed with her. As a result, it began filling light MiGs heavy Su.

    As a result, to date, our fighter aircraft had a very strange situation, contrary to some classical principles of construction of military aircraft.

    There is a global concept, according to which, the proportion of lightweight fighters in frontline aviation should be about two-thirds of the total number of aircraft. Logically, at least on the basis of economic factors. Combat application - a separate article.

    As well in 2015 in the Russian Federation there were 318 Su all modifications (27, 30, 33, 35) and 223 of the MiG-29. And it's just the general figures without taking into account the state of the aircraft.

    Of course, the entry into force of heavy Su no way reduce our combat readiness. But here again the nuances. And necessary to distinguish them, as well as the advantages and disadvantages of the aircraft.

    Remember the story of the MiG-29K deck? Spears broke a lot of time. Flight tests palubnika completed in 2006. And to take this machine into service "Admiral Kuznetsov" in no hurry. Although the Su-33 that make up its wing, we have long been asked to replace. It got to the same insanity that such a huge ship dragged on themselves 8 aircraft in campaigns. It was? It was.

    A MiG-29K was adopted only in 2013. By the way, then there was actually ready and MiG-29KUB, combat training, double.

    Navy Russia in general are a strange policy in this regard. Do not rush to change the Su-33, which is older MiGs, and belong to the fourth generation, but Cy-25UTG who do the day before yesterday.

    Look at the neighbor's partner? Why India buys for its aircraft carriers ( "Vikramaditya", "Viraat" and is being built "Vikrant") was the MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB? Hindus do not understand anything in the air? Or just save the money? Of course, do not save. First place in the world for the importation of military equipment about something says yes. As well as another contract for 30 MiG-29K.

    But this palubnik, which produces the world is not so many businesses. With conventional aircraft worse. Recently, the MiG-35, which showed interest in India and Egypt lost the tender. And to whom? French "Rafale". And the Egyptians, and Indians prefer not to buy from the most honest sellers are not the cheapest goods. But the product that there is the "in facto", but not loose, God knows how many years in the development stage.

    Many experts believe that the MiG-35 is capable of competing with the best aircraft, not only in class but also among the heavier machines. However, to prove it now, when it exists in the form of unfinished projects is extremely difficult.

    The MiG-35 was supposed to be in the army a year ago. The main reason for unavailability of radar called "Bug-A" with the active phased array antenna. By the way, radar AFAR - this is one of the signs of the aircraft belonging to the fifth generation. "Bug-A" of concern "Fazotron-NIIR", seems to be waiting in the near future, but ...

    However, already prepared for the production of export version - "beetle-AE". But like all that we contain the letter "E" in the labeling, the "Beetle" simpler and weaker. Instead of the planned for the MiG-35 aerial targets detection range of 200 km on the export version, this figure was reduced to 150 km. Other indicators seem to be the same. In particular, both radars are capable of mapping the area and provide the flight (possibly supersonic) with rounding of the relief.

    So that the plane, which begin testing in August, probably already be equipped with radar "Zhuk-AE '. Everything else is already on it.

    It is believed (quite rightly so, by the way) that is closest in quality to the fifth generation fighter aircraft is the Su-35. Just because of the 4 ++ generation to a full 5 one step. The RAC "MiG" believe that the MiG-35 is capable of rising to the same level.

    Though of course, to prove this is possible only after passing state tests. As stated by the RAC "MiG", at the 35th found the most "advanced" avionics. None of the "quartet" is not such a powerful electronic warfare system. And pay special attention to its excellent flight qualities.

    When designing aircraft could increase by 50% the internal fuel supply relative to MIG-29, as well as doubling the payload. Thus, armament and range of the aircraft almost on par with heavy fighters.

    The new engine in besforsazhny mode bit not up to the supersonic speed that forces the Su-35. However, unlike its heavier counterpart has an electronic control system. Also, the designers managed to increase engine reliability record. Largely due to this aircraft resource exceeds 6000 hours.

    The fire control system also used two optical location station with infrared imager and television channels, a laser rangefinder and designator. At the Su-35, only one such station operating in the forward hemisphere. In the MiG-35 has the opportunity to review the lower hemisphere, which increases the efficiency of destruction of ground objects fighter.

    Yes, and the radar of the Su-35 with passive bars.

    In general, if you have to walk on the performance characteristics, it seems to be of the MiG-35 is a very decent fighting machine. But again, in order to confirm them, you have to pass the test. And in the future to overcome the barriers that have prevented the 35th to take off over the years.

    Worse, it will not be exact for our videoconferencing.

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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  sepheronx on Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:01 pm

    So main complaint is that the radar used on the testing of MiG-35's will be the export variant of the Zhuk-A radar rather than the one used by Russia?  What is exactly the hold up then of Zhuk-A?  They (Kret) have already tested the T/R modules (15W each) and reduced sizes of them so they can fit more.  Any other news on it? Actually, in MAKS 2013, they showcased the variant used that is using GaN modules, of upwards to 1000 T/R modules. So I do not understand this delay they speak of.

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    Post  Svyatoslavich on Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:47 am

    223 MiG-29 still active in 2015, I thought the numbers were much smaller. As far as I know, the only MiG-29 of Soviet/early Russian version are the 9.13 (perhaps 9.13S) based in Armenia. Are there any others? In Domna they have already been replaced by Su-30SM, in Kursk are based the SMT refused by Algeria, in Privolzhski the newly-built SMT, and then there are the K for the Navy. Which other combat units (not counting the Strizhi, for example, or training units in Kubinka or Lipetsk) operate MiG-29s nowadays?

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    Post  franco on Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:10 am

    Svyatoslavich wrote:223 MiG-29 still active in 2015, I thought the numbers were much smaller. As far as I know, the only MiG-29 of Soviet/early Russian version are the 9.13 (perhaps 9.13S) based in Armenia. Are there any others? In Domna they have already been replaced by Su-30SM, in Kursk are based the SMT refused by Algeria, in Privolzhski the newly-built SMT, and then there are the K for the Navy. Which other combat units (not counting the Strizhi, for example, or training units in Kubinka or Lipetsk) operate MiG-29s nowadays?


    I believe the last sentence "And it's just the general figures without taking into account the state of the aircraft." says it all.

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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:48 am

    in a 2009 article, 49% of the MiG-29's were in ready status. I dunno if the number has changed at all.

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    Post  Svyatoslavich on Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:48 am

    franco wrote:
    I believe the last sentence "And it's just the general figures without taking into account the state of the aircraft." says it all.
    Thanks, so most of these aircraft must be in reserve and not combat ready nor perhaps even airworthy.

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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:51 am

    Svyatoslavich wrote:
    franco wrote:
    I believe the last sentence "And it's just the general figures without taking into account the state of the aircraft." says it all.
    Thanks, so most of these aircraft must be in reserve and not combat ready nor perhaps even airworthy.

    2009 - 49% of them were airworthy and used. I imagine that number is up now.

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    Post  franco on Sat Jul 30, 2016 2:14 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    Svyatoslavich wrote:
    franco wrote:
    I believe the last sentence "And it's just the general figures without taking into account the state of the aircraft." says it all.
    Thanks, so most of these aircraft must be in reserve and not combat ready nor perhaps even airworthy.

    2009 - 49% of them were airworthy and used.  I imagine that number is up now.

    By year's end there will be 50 SMT and 24 K models and I would suspect not much more then 50-60 of the older models will still be a active.

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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  GarryB on Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:31 pm

    If MiG-35 is a 15 year old aircraft then the Su-35 is older... the Su-35M (Su-27M) first flew in 1988.

    But the Su-35 is a totally different aircraft that externally looks the same as it did all those years ago.

    It is the same for the MiG, yet the author gives them no credit for this...


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