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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  franco on Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:11 pm

    George1 wrote:
    medo wrote:

    Russian air force will receive their first MiG-35 to the end of this year. The plane is already in production.

    we havent seen any official statement - info on MiG-35 order yet

    No production run yet. There is an order for 1 Mig-35 for this year, it is for trials and evaluations for the VKS.

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    Post  JohninMK on Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:21 am

    Yandex translate from bmpd

    The first two MiG-35 on the Assembly at the enterprise RSK MiG in Lukhovitsy March 19th, 0:04

    17 March 2016 was organized by press-service of JSC "RAC "MiG" press-tour to the production site complex No. 1 of the Corporation located in the Moscow suburb of Lukhovitsy. The event was dedicated to demonstrating the start of work on two "pre-production" (so named because predstaviteli RSC) copies of the MiG-35, built according to the contract on carrying out corresponding R & d works of the Russian space forces. Reporters saw both of these cars in the final Assembly shop. In fact, it appears both aircraft are still fairly unadvanced stage of Assembly.



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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:33 am

    JohninMK wrote:Yandex translate from bmpd

    The first two MiG-35 on the Assembly at the enterprise RSK MiG in Lukhovitsy March 19th, 0:04

    17 March 2016 was organized by press-service of JSC "RAC "MiG" press-tour to the production site complex No. 1 of the Corporation located in the Moscow suburb of Lukhovitsy. The event was dedicated to demonstrating the start of work on two "pre-production" (so named because predstaviteli RSC) copies of the MiG-35, built according to the contract on carrying out corresponding R & d works of the Russian space forces. Reporters saw both of these cars in the final Assembly shop. In fact, it appears both aircraft are still fairly unadvanced stage of Assembly.



    so again 2 seat versions? in Russia now will be only "Indian" approach to fighters?

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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Isos on Sat Mar 19, 2016 1:26 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Yandex translate from bmpd

    The first two MiG-35 on the Assembly at the enterprise RSK MiG in Lukhovitsy March 19th, 0:04

    17 March 2016 was organized by press-service of JSC "RAC "MiG" press-tour to the production site complex No. 1 of the Corporation located in the Moscow suburb of Lukhovitsy. The event was dedicated to demonstrating the start of work on two "pre-production" (so named because predstaviteli RSC) copies of the MiG-35, built according to the contract on carrying out corresponding R & d works of the Russian space forces. Reporters saw both of these cars in the final Assembly shop. In fact, it appears both aircraft are still fairly unadvanced stage of Assembly.



    so again 2 seat versions? in Russia now will be only "Indian" approach to fighters?

    Maybe they are for tests like franco said and the training of new pilots on the new avionics.

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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:24 am

    Isos wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Yandex translate from bmpd

    The first two MiG-35 on the Assembly at the enterprise RSK MiG in Lukhovitsy March 19th, 0:04

    17 March 2016 was organized by press-service of JSC "RAC "MiG" press-tour to the production site complex No. 1 of the Corporation located in the Moscow suburb of Lukhovitsy. The event was dedicated to demonstrating the start of work on two "pre-production" (so named because predstaviteli RSC) copies of the MiG-35, built according to the contract on carrying out corresponding R & d works of the Russian space forces. Reporters saw both of these cars in the final Assembly shop. In fact, it appears both aircraft are still fairly unadvanced stage of Assembly.



    so again 2 seat versions? in Russia now will be only "Indian" approach to fighters?

    Maybe they are for tests like franco said and the training of new pilots on the new avionics.

    This is very much a reminder of the Yak-7 story. It should be mentioned that until relatively very recent revelations, the existence of the Yak-7 fighter was unknown outside of Russia.

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    Post  Svyatoslavich on Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:59 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    so again 2 seat versions? in Russia now will be only "Indian" approach to fighters?
    Perhaps the MiG-35 will be like the MiG-29K and KUB (9.41/9.47): single seat and double seat versions share the same canopy and front fuselage, the place for the second pilot in the single seat version being filled with a fuel tank.

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    Post  Book. on Sat Mar 19, 2016 6:14 am

    JohninMK wrote:Yandex translate from bmpd

    The first two MiG-35 on the Assembly at the enterprise RSK MiG in Lukhovitsy March 19th, 0:04

    17 March 2016 was organized by press-service of JSC "RAC "MiG" press-tour to the production site complex No. 1 of the Corporation located in the Moscow suburb of Lukhovitsy. The event was dedicated to demonstrating the start of work on two "pre-production" (so named because predstaviteli RSC) copies of the MiG-35, built according to the contract on carrying out corresponding R & d works of the Russian space forces. Reporters saw both of these cars in the final Assembly shop. In fact, it appears both aircraft are still fairly unadvanced stage of Assembly.

    I think the egypt thumbsup

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    Post  medo on Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:52 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Yandex translate from bmpd

    The first two MiG-35 on the Assembly at the enterprise RSK MiG in Lukhovitsy March 19th, 0:04

    17 March 2016 was organized by press-service of JSC "RAC "MiG" press-tour to the production site complex No. 1 of the Corporation located in the Moscow suburb of Lukhovitsy. The event was dedicated to demonstrating the start of work on two "pre-production" (so named because predstaviteli RSC) copies of the MiG-35, built according to the contract on carrying out corresponding R & d works of the Russian space forces. Reporters saw both of these cars in the final Assembly shop. In fact, it appears both aircraft are still fairly unadvanced stage of Assembly.



    so again 2 seat versions? in Russia now will be only "Indian" approach to fighters?

    The front one is twin seater, the one behind is a single seater. I think this two jets are for RuAF as they have Pastel RWR sensors installed on the fins in Russian way (like on new MiG-29SMT and MiG-29K), Indian MiGs have different placement.

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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  George1 on Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:05 am

    Article says that is for RuAF for tests

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1796729.html


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    Post  medo on Sat Mar 19, 2016 1:53 pm

    And they are also expanding production capabilities for future domestic (~50 jets) and export orders. I think RuAF will order far more of them as most probably bigger Su-30SM and Su-35 fighters produced in Irkut and KNAAZ will serve in Siberia and Far East to protect large territories, while smaller MiG-35 produced in Moscow will protect smaller European part of Russia.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkBo2eC38z0

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    Post  Austin on Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:18 pm

    Industries will give the Defense Ministry to test combat aircraft MiG-35 - OAK
    03.30.2016 10:00:05


    Santiago. (Chile). 30th of March. Interfax-AVN - Russian Aerospace forces will get the first prototype of a light multirole fighter MiG-35 this year, said general designer - Vice-President for Innovation of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), CEO of RAC "MiG" Sergei Korotkov.
    "Today the planes are in the shop of the general assembly, they will be collected as soon as this year we will begin flight tests of the aircraft in order to confirm the technical characteristics that have been exposed by the Ministry of Defence for the conclusion of a contract for the series production and supply." - Said C .Korotkov reporters at the aerospace show FIDAE-2016 in Chile.

    He said that two MiG-35 will be used in flight tests.

    .. "The MiG-35 - multi-aerial system, which solves the combat missions in the spectra of" air-to-air "," air-land "," air-to-ship "aircraft equipped with avionics that allows you to use all the means of aviation destruction This fighter belongs to generation "4 ++", it is regarded as a transitional link between the fourth and fifth generation combat aircraft.

    According S.Korotkova before passing two MiG-35 Russian Ministry of Defense, they will be submitted for factory testing.

    Responding to a question, when it is planned to sign a contract with the Defense Ministry, S.Korotkov said: "We are ready even now." "The Defense Ministry expects the results of the tests they carry out once we have these aircraft represent them", - said S.Korotko.

    According to him, the military presented to the MiG-35 "specific requirements".

    "We must first conduct production tests and then present the aircraft to the Ministry of Defence test After the military conduct such tests, and will make objective decisions." - S.Korotkov said.

    According to him, if the industry fully satisfy customer requirements, no one will doubt "that
    such planes, first, eat, and secondly, they are necessary."

    The fate of the aircraft will be resolved this year, says general director of RSK "MIG".

    Responding to a question about how many MiG-35 Russian Air Force may be involved in the case of signing the contract, S.Korotkov said: "Probably to the Ministry of Defence must first contact: as the contract is not - that it does not regard this as a kind of pressure. But I think these are the machines would be a great help in dealing with the challenges that face today by the Ministry of defense. "

    Earlier it was reported that the MiG-35 has the latest optical-location station (OLS) with infrared, television and laser sighting equipment, created with the use of space technologies. Radar provides detection, tracking, identification and seizure of aircraft and ground / surface targets in the front and rear hemispheres day and night.
    MiG-35 at the same time captures 10 goals. The composition of promising air attack weapons entered the aircraft, which are not offered for export. Among them - the means of destruction of long-range, allowing attack targets without entering the zone of the opposing defense. MiG-35 is equipped with modern defense complex, which minimizes the possibility of a sudden attack fighter. The equipment allows to recognize how airplanes and flying rockets.

    The power plant consists of two engines RD-33MK thrust 5.4 tons (afterburner - 9 tons), equipped with smokeless combustion chamber and new electronic control system with full responsibility such as FADEC. Flight hour cost of MiG-35 is almost 2.5 times lower than that of the MiG-29.

    Multifunctional MiG-35 are inherent elements of the fifth generation aircraft, including stealth and versatility. Fighting vehicle embodies the best in the aerodynamic configuration that was in the previous generation of light fighter aircraft MiG-29. Range increased by half compared with its predecessor.

    http://militarynews.ru/story.asp%3Frid%3D1%26nid%3D407612

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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Austin on Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:53 am

    Here’s why the MiG-29 could defeat the best western fighters in close air combat, despite its limitations

    As Koeck recalls “Inside ten nautical miles I’m hard to defeat, and with the IRST, helmet sight and ‘Archer’ (which is the NATO designation for the R-73 missile) I can’t be beaten. Even against the latest Block 50 F-16s the MiG-29 is virtually invulnerable in the close-in scenario. On one occasion I remember the F-16s did score some kills eventually, but only after taking 18 ‘Archers’ (Just as we might seldom have got close-in if they used their AMRAAMs BVR!) They couldn’t believe it at the debrief, they got up and left the room!”

    Moreover with a 28 deg/sec instantaneous turn rate (compared to the Block 50 F-16’s 26 deg) the MiG-29 could out-turn them: in fact the Fulcrum retained an edge over its adversaries thanks to its unmatched agility which was reached combining an advanced aerodynamics with an old-fashioned mechanical control system.

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    Post  Austin on Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:36 pm

    NEW Russian Fighter Jet MIG-35 / MIG-35D Compilation, Specs, & Info


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    Mig-29/Su-27 design origins

    Post  Genjurooo on Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:20 pm

    What are the origins of Mig-29 and Su-27?
    I mean all the Mig planes have similarities. From the body design you can safely conclude that planes like J-8 and FC-1/JF-17 are in fact evolutions of Mig-21 family. Also Mig-23/27 and Mig-25/31 retain body design characteristics that point at their evolution from Mig-21 (and certain prototypes evolved from Mig-21). I can see this at Yak too with Yak-23, Yak-36, Yak-38, Yak-41 that point to a natural evolution.
    But what of Mig-29 and Su-27? The single very weak similarity I can spot is with Su-25. Very weak.
    What is their design origin?

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    Post  George1 on Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:46 pm

    Genjurooo wrote:What are the origins of Mig-29 and Su-27?
    I mean all the Mig planes have similarities. From the body design you can safely conclude that planes like J-8 and FC-1/JF-17 are in fact evolutions of Mig-21 family. Also Mig-23/27 and Mig-25/31 retain body design characteristics that point at their evolution from Mig-21 (and certain prototypes evolved from Mig-21). I can see this at Yak too with Yak-23, Yak-36, Yak-38, Yak-41 that point to a natural evolution.
    But what of Mig-29 and Su-27? The single very weak similarity I can spot is with Su-25. Very weak.
    What is their design origin?

    ΜiG-29 is considered a "smaller Su-27"


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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Svyatoslavich on Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:24 am

    Genjurooo wrote:What are the origins of Mig-29 and Su-27?
    I mean all the Mig planes have similarities. From the body design you can safely conclude that planes like J-8 and FC-1/JF-17 are in fact evolutions of Mig-21 family. Also Mig-23/27 and Mig-25/31 retain body design characteristics that point at their evolution from Mig-21 (and certain prototypes evolved from Mig-21). I can see this at Yak too with Yak-23, Yak-36, Yak-38, Yak-41 that point to a natural evolution.
    But what of Mig-29 and Su-27? The single very weak similarity I can spot is with Su-25. Very weak.
    What is their design origin?
    If I am not mistaken, both have their origin in studies by TsAGI (Central Aero-Hidrodynamic Institute).

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    Post  GarryB on Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:35 am

    It is a result of improving aircraft design technology.

    I would argue that the US has a bigger problem showing the evolution of its designs... out of the blue they suddenly have a twin engined twin tail finned fighter interceptor... the F-15... just after... and in direct response to the MiG-25... and one could argue that despite its swing wings the F-14 is basically the same and they lead directly to the F-18 and F-22.

    the MiG-29 and Su-27 adopt the revolutionary wing design that allows supersonic speed without a swept wing as such.... they also benefit from LERX or leading edge root extensions as seen on the MiG-23 to energise the air passing the two vertical tail surfaces.

    the requirement for raw speed and the internal volume for an enormous amount of fuel led directly to the MiG-25 and these same driving factors led to the MiG-31.

    New wing shape that allows supersonic flight but not a long runway led to the MiG-29 and Su-27 shape with extended LERX and body lifting shape.

    I remember in the 1980s being rather bored by the flying tubes... Mig-15/17/19/21 and Su-7/9/11/17/20/22, but they were pretty much designed with the technology of the day to do what they do.

    The Su-25 was optimised to do what it does too.

    The change from tube body to boxy body to lifting body in fighter/bombers like the MiG-15/MiG-25/MiG-29 is also reflected in bombers... tu-95/Tu-22M3/Tu-160.


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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Austin on Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:38 am

    New MiG-29UBM VKS Russia in the Volga near Astrakhan, in the 116th Training Centre of combat employment of the 185th Combat Training Center







    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/76739/

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    Post  Austin on Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:39 am

    How many liter drop tank are those ?

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    Post  eridan on Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:28 am

    upward of 1500 liters, i'd day. The older slightly more streamlined (and slighty smaller) had 1500 so this might have a few hundred more...

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    Post  mack8 on Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:57 am

    I think it's the new 2100 liters one, developed for the latest variants.

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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  higurashihougi on Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:04 am

    Genjurooo wrote:What are the origins of Mig-29 and Su-27?
    I mean all the Mig planes have similarities. From the body design you can safely conclude that planes like J-8 and FC-1/JF-17 are in fact evolutions of Mig-21 family. Also Mig-23/27 and Mig-25/31 retain body design characteristics that point at their evolution from Mig-21 (and certain prototypes evolved from Mig-21). I can see this at Yak too with Yak-23, Yak-36, Yak-38, Yak-41 that point to a natural evolution.
    But what of Mig-29 and Su-27? The single very weak similarity I can spot is with Su-25. Very weak.
    What is their design origin?

    MiG-25. In fact, MiG-25's concept is the foundation for Su-27...37, MiG-29/33/35, F-15, F-18, F-22, F-35.

    The concept of MiG-25 which Su-27 and MiG-25 inherited that are:

    1) Replacing the cylindrical hull with wide rectangular hull. What GarryB said is "tube body to boxy body". The reason is to increase the lift, increase the payload.

    From now on, most of the lift burden will be carried out by the hull, the wings carry less portion of the lift. That is a good thing because the hull is much thicker and more durable than the wings.

    2) Combine the traditional delta wing (MiG-21) with classical swept wing (MiG-19) into a somewhat trapezoid wing. Like a delta with a trimmed head.

    3) Application of fly-by-wire and computer piloting. From now on, instead of applying direct force to the aircraft through transmission, the pilot send electrical message to the computer, and the computer will control the motors according to the pilot's message.

    Just like you control a electrical toy truck with a joystick.

    The computer will also control the stability of the aircraft and is programmed to intervene when needed. That is critical for MiG-25 and its successor, since most of the lift concentrated at the hull and instead of the wing, MiG-25's stability will be very low at low speed. A very sensitive and intelligent computer is needed, and that's why it MiG-25 was only deployed in 1969 although a prototype had already flown in 1964. Computer took time to mature.

    4) Use 2 vertical stabs instead of 1. The hull now is broad and rectangular, you have to put the vertical stabs at the edge of the hull, so that they can still access the wind at high AoA. The horizontal stabs are also positioned at a lower position than the wing, in order to create a gap for the wind to go through and access the vertical stabs.

    All these enable the aircraft to achieve very high AoA and do corba or kulbit.

    5) Air inlet is controlled by the computer. The computer will open and close the inlet "door" to adjust the airflow, so that the engines will always work at optimal condition.

    Compared with MiG-21, SR-71 and Mirage have conical inlet, they can passively adjust the airflow by speed, but cannot by payload or positions. And MiG-19, F-16, F-18, Rafale cannot adjust anything, they have ancient ram inlet.

    6) BVR fight with radars and guided missiles. Russian air radars are very big and powerful. MiG-25 has the biggest nose radar of 140cm. diameter. Su-30 has the biggest nose radar amongst the multirole: 96cm.

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    And why people need MiG-25, why people need all these above for new generation of fighter ?

    Because the new fighter is multirole. They are air-superior fighter, but also are bomber, and are interceptor. They have to be fast, to be extremely maneuverable, but also can fly long, fly far, fly well both in high or low speed. They have to have large payload to carry a lot of weapons and big radar.

    Now instead of having a fleet of MiG-19, a fleet of MiG-21, a fleet of MiG-17, you can have a fleet of MiG-29 to do all the things.

    MiG-25/31 are interceptors, but they can carry a lot of weapons, they can fly far and long, and they can be used as bombers - although they are not designed to be bombers.

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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  medo on Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:49 pm

    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/77017/

    121 aviation repair plant repair and modernize MiG-29 (9-13) b/n 03 most probably to MiG-29SM standard and it seems it will go to Armenia.

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    Post  George1 on Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:01 pm

    medo wrote:http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/77017/

    121 aviation repair plant repair and modernize MiG-29 (9-13) b/n 03 most probably to MiG-29SM standard and it seems it will go to Armenia.

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