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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  JohninMK on Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:28 am

    The sales campaign is clearly underway. "If you can't wait years for an SU then please form an orderly queue outside our offices" is likely to be one of their sales pitches.

    Test flights of Russia’s fourth-generation MiG-35 fighter aircraft (Fulcrum-F) will begin later this summer and last into next year, the United Aircraft Corporation’s (UAC) General Director Sergey Korotkov said Tuesday.

    SOCHI (Sputnik) – Korotkov indicated that MiG-35 serial deliveries to the ministry could be contracted after the tests.

    "The aircraft is completing the general assembly stage, and should move to flight tests in accordance with the schedule. We will begin state tests as part of the Ministry of Defense program at the end of summer. The tests will be carried out until next year," Korotkov told RIA Novosti at the Sirius education center for gifted children.

    The MiG-35 is a multipurpose 4 ++ generation fighter, it is a further development of the MiG-29K/KUB and MiG-29M/M2 combat aircraft with improved combat effectiveness and versatility, as well as improved performance.


    http://sputniknews.com/military/20160719/1043257810/russian-mig-fighter-flights.html

    Just a reminder of its air show demo last summer

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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  franco on Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:26 pm

    MiG-35: it is very difficult to take off

    At the recently held a press conference, Chief Designer of the UAC (United Aircraft Corporation) Sergei Korotkov said that in late August 2016 to begin flight tests of the MiG-35 fighter. Tests will be carried out until mid-2017. At the end it is planned to conclude a contract for the supply of a production aircraft to the Ministry of Defence.

    News from the category of good. However, as in any complex system (and test the new plane a simple matter will not name), there are nuances.

    And the most unpleasant nuance is that the MiG-35, which will be tested, and the MiG-35, which 14 years ago began to be created in the RAC "MiG" - is not the same thing.

    It sounds absurd, but true.

    MiG-35, which will be released on the state tests, - an advanced and upgraded MiG-29M / M2. Externally, the difference find difficult, like airplanes. But the main problem lies in the fact that at the moment are not prepared all generation fighter system 4 ++. And representatives of the RAC "MiG" is recognized. So a "plus sign" yet it is not.

    The question arises: what is the problem, because the work on the MiG-35 are almost 15 years old.

    Many experts believe the main reason for the delay behind the scenes battle between Sukhoi and RSK "MiG". Lost the last. And this struggle did not begin yesterday. But in the end Sukhoi won a landslide victory in the battle for the budget. A "Miguén" and other competitors got a secondary role and financing of the residual. That had an impact on the speed of new developments.

    It is difficult to say whether this is good. Competition - a fine thing. But even in the Great Patriotic War there was a kind of separation of light fighters Yakovlev and Lavochkin heavier. And even their task at the end of the war put different, based on the performance characteristics. Who does not believe, read Golodnikova.

    And further, this trend continued. Only in the post-war years OKB Lavochkin gradually switched to missile and space technology, and in the design and development of fighter aircraft Sukhoi passed previously occupied mostly bombers and attack aircraft.

    Personally, my opinion that the reason for this was the collapse of the Project T-4, which actually represents a serious competitive developments Tupolev. And it was decided to place all in places.

    Tupolev bombers and missile carriers involved. Sukhoi fighter-bombers and heavy fighters. OKB Mikoyan and Gurevich light fighters.

    In the general scheme of a little do not fit the Su-24/34 and Su-25. But the genius of Paul Osipovich as a designer, too, will not vpisheshsya. The fact that the dry was a genius, as if no discussion. As well as the fact that many of its projects have been "hacked" just because an understanding of the times ahead.

    But back in our time.

    In 2002, there was a question of replacing obsolete MiG-29 advanced MiG-35. That was quite logical. But for some reason, the representatives of the Sukhoi Design Bureau began to express the opinion that it is necessary to replace a "more thorough" machine. The idea of ​​a kind, but for some reason, the Ministry of Defense agreed with her. As a result, it began filling light MiGs heavy Su.

    As a result, to date, our fighter aircraft had a very strange situation, contrary to some classical principles of construction of military aircraft.

    There is a global concept, according to which, the proportion of lightweight fighters in frontline aviation should be about two-thirds of the total number of aircraft. Logically, at least on the basis of economic factors. Combat application - a separate article.

    As well in 2015 in the Russian Federation there were 318 Su all modifications (27, 30, 33, 35) and 223 of the MiG-29. And it's just the general figures without taking into account the state of the aircraft.

    Of course, the entry into force of heavy Su no way reduce our combat readiness. But here again the nuances. And necessary to distinguish them, as well as the advantages and disadvantages of the aircraft.

    Remember the story of the MiG-29K deck? Spears broke a lot of time. Flight tests palubnika completed in 2006. And to take this machine into service "Admiral Kuznetsov" in no hurry. Although the Su-33 that make up its wing, we have long been asked to replace. It got to the same insanity that such a huge ship dragged on themselves 8 aircraft in campaigns. It was? It was.

    A MiG-29K was adopted only in 2013. By the way, then there was actually ready and MiG-29KUB, combat training, double.

    Navy Russia in general are a strange policy in this regard. Do not rush to change the Su-33, which is older MiGs, and belong to the fourth generation, but Cy-25UTG who do the day before yesterday.

    Look at the neighbor's partner? Why India buys for its aircraft carriers ( "Vikramaditya", "Viraat" and is being built "Vikrant") was the MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB? Hindus do not understand anything in the air? Or just save the money? Of course, do not save. First place in the world for the importation of military equipment about something says yes. As well as another contract for 30 MiG-29K.

    But this palubnik, which produces the world is not so many businesses. With conventional aircraft worse. Recently, the MiG-35, which showed interest in India and Egypt lost the tender. And to whom? French "Rafale". And the Egyptians, and Indians prefer not to buy from the most honest sellers are not the cheapest goods. But the product that there is the "in facto", but not loose, God knows how many years in the development stage.

    Many experts believe that the MiG-35 is capable of competing with the best aircraft, not only in class but also among the heavier machines. However, to prove it now, when it exists in the form of unfinished projects is extremely difficult.

    The MiG-35 was supposed to be in the army a year ago. The main reason for unavailability of radar called "Bug-A" with the active phased array antenna. By the way, radar AFAR - this is one of the signs of the aircraft belonging to the fifth generation. "Bug-A" of concern "Fazotron-NIIR", seems to be waiting in the near future, but ...

    However, already prepared for the production of export version - "beetle-AE". But like all that we contain the letter "E" in the labeling, the "Beetle" simpler and weaker. Instead of the planned for the MiG-35 aerial targets detection range of 200 km on the export version, this figure was reduced to 150 km. Other indicators seem to be the same. In particular, both radars are capable of mapping the area and provide the flight (possibly supersonic) with rounding of the relief.

    So that the plane, which begin testing in August, probably already be equipped with radar "Zhuk-AE '. Everything else is already on it.

    It is believed (quite rightly so, by the way) that is closest in quality to the fifth generation fighter aircraft is the Su-35. Just because of the 4 ++ generation to a full 5 one step. The RAC "MiG" believe that the MiG-35 is capable of rising to the same level.

    Though of course, to prove this is possible only after passing state tests. As stated by the RAC "MiG", at the 35th found the most "advanced" avionics. None of the "quartet" is not such a powerful electronic warfare system. And pay special attention to its excellent flight qualities.

    When designing aircraft could increase by 50% the internal fuel supply relative to MIG-29, as well as doubling the payload. Thus, armament and range of the aircraft almost on par with heavy fighters.

    The new engine in besforsazhny mode bit not up to the supersonic speed that forces the Su-35. However, unlike its heavier counterpart has an electronic control system. Also, the designers managed to increase engine reliability record. Largely due to this aircraft resource exceeds 6000 hours.

    The fire control system also used two optical location station with infrared imager and television channels, a laser rangefinder and designator. At the Su-35, only one such station operating in the forward hemisphere. In the MiG-35 has the opportunity to review the lower hemisphere, which increases the efficiency of destruction of ground objects fighter.

    Yes, and the radar of the Su-35 with passive bars.

    In general, if you have to walk on the performance characteristics, it seems to be of the MiG-35 is a very decent fighting machine. But again, in order to confirm them, you have to pass the test. And in the future to overcome the barriers that have prevented the 35th to take off over the years.

    Worse, it will not be exact for our videoconferencing.
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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  sepheronx on Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:01 pm

    So main complaint is that the radar used on the testing of MiG-35's will be the export variant of the Zhuk-A radar rather than the one used by Russia?  What is exactly the hold up then of Zhuk-A?  They (Kret) have already tested the T/R modules (15W each) and reduced sizes of them so they can fit more.  Any other news on it? Actually, in MAKS 2013, they showcased the variant used that is using GaN modules, of upwards to 1000 T/R modules. So I do not understand this delay they speak of.

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    Post  Svyatoslavich on Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:47 am

    223 MiG-29 still active in 2015, I thought the numbers were much smaller. As far as I know, the only MiG-29 of Soviet/early Russian version are the 9.13 (perhaps 9.13S) based in Armenia. Are there any others? In Domna they have already been replaced by Su-30SM, in Kursk are based the SMT refused by Algeria, in Privolzhski the newly-built SMT, and then there are the K for the Navy. Which other combat units (not counting the Strizhi, for example, or training units in Kubinka or Lipetsk) operate MiG-29s nowadays?
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    Post  franco on Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:10 am

    Svyatoslavich wrote:223 MiG-29 still active in 2015, I thought the numbers were much smaller. As far as I know, the only MiG-29 of Soviet/early Russian version are the 9.13 (perhaps 9.13S) based in Armenia. Are there any others? In Domna they have already been replaced by Su-30SM, in Kursk are based the SMT refused by Algeria, in Privolzhski the newly-built SMT, and then there are the K for the Navy. Which other combat units (not counting the Strizhi, for example, or training units in Kubinka or Lipetsk) operate MiG-29s nowadays?


    I believe the last sentence "And it's just the general figures without taking into account the state of the aircraft." says it all.
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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:48 am

    in a 2009 article, 49% of the MiG-29's were in ready status. I dunno if the number has changed at all.

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    Post  Svyatoslavich on Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:48 am

    franco wrote:
    I believe the last sentence "And it's just the general figures without taking into account the state of the aircraft." says it all.
    Thanks, so most of these aircraft must be in reserve and not combat ready nor perhaps even airworthy.
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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:51 am

    Svyatoslavich wrote:
    franco wrote:
    I believe the last sentence "And it's just the general figures without taking into account the state of the aircraft." says it all.
    Thanks, so most of these aircraft must be in reserve and not combat ready nor perhaps even airworthy.

    2009 - 49% of them were airworthy and used. I imagine that number is up now.
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    Post  franco on Sat Jul 30, 2016 2:14 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    Svyatoslavich wrote:
    franco wrote:
    I believe the last sentence "And it's just the general figures without taking into account the state of the aircraft." says it all.
    Thanks, so most of these aircraft must be in reserve and not combat ready nor perhaps even airworthy.

    2009 - 49% of them were airworthy and used.  I imagine that number is up now.

    By year's end there will be 50 SMT and 24 K models and I would suspect not much more then 50-60 of the older models will still be a active.
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:31 pm

    If MiG-35 is a 15 year old aircraft then the Su-35 is older... the Su-35M (Su-27M) first flew in 1988.

    But the Su-35 is a totally different aircraft that externally looks the same as it did all those years ago.

    It is the same for the MiG, yet the author gives them no credit for this...


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    Post  eridan on Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:34 pm

    Mig-35 of today is very much the almost same airframe to mig29m using similar engines. stemming from the 80s and flying as prototypes during 1990s. Su-35 is of different airframe construction to su27m, with greater difference in engines. Project was worked upon during 2000s. So su-35 is definitely newer design using newer solutions, by at least a decade, probably more.

    Su-27m to su27s is actually more of an analgue to what mig-35 is to mig-29. Basically only avionics have received noticeable improvements. Mig-35 pushed that a little bit further than what mig29m had compared to mig-29, but that's it.

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    Post  Svyatoslavich on Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:52 pm

    That is true. People often don't notice that the 117S is way bigger and more powerful than the AL-31, with huge improvement also in service life. And we should never confuse the "old" Su-35 (Su-27M) with the current Su-35S, as they are completely different in all aspects, including the airframe.
    Supposedly the new MiG-35 will use a new version of the RD-33, the MKM, which is a further step from the RD-33MK used now by the MiG-29K (the most modern version now in service). I have not found figure for the RD-33MKM to see how much improved it is, and if it can compare (apart from the obvious difference in size) with the 117S.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:54 am

    Mig-35 of today is very much the almost same airframe to mig29m using similar engines.

    Rubbish.

    Current engines on the MiG put out an extra ton of thrust each at 9tons verses 8 tons of the old RD-33s.

    More to the point the MiG-29M had a totally different airframe from all existing MiG-29s of the time, while the Su-27M did not upgrade very much at all except the Canard foreplanes which are not present on the Su-35.

    Mig-35 pushed that a little bit further than what mig29m had compared to mig-29, but that's it.

    That is just horse shit... if that were the case the MiG-35 would already be in service for over a decade.

    The MiG-29M didn't have an AESA radar, it had a fairly basic IRST, it had no second IRST for ground targets and lower hemisphere targets, it had no DIRCMS, and had no DAS either.

    The MiG-35 is every bit a -5 generation aircraft... every bit as much as the Su-35 is.


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    What does everyone make of this?

    Post  Pincus Shain on Sat Aug 13, 2016 7:01 pm

    The Indians are saying that due to "inferior Russian quality" and defects that the Mig-29K has an operational rate of just over 21%. Is this just a case of sour grapes? E.g. The Indians not being able to maintain a complex aircraft and passing the blame on or does the Mig-29K have serious shortcomings in reliability (Which is hard to believe because even those who claim the Mig-29 is technologically primitive compared to its western counterparts, they all admit it is rugged and reliable)?

    http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/naval/naval-aviation/2016/08/10/india-mig-29k-aircraft-navy-defects/88510782/
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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Aug 13, 2016 8:33 pm

    I believe we have gone over this.

    Essentially, the MiG-29Kub's that India uses are assembled in India.  Russia also uses the MiG-29K in good numbers and they are not reporting even close to the same issues.  Essentially, India has a huge problem overall in maintenance of its aircrafts and the ability to assemble them or manufacture them.  For instance, they have issues with the Su-30MKI, yet, Russia uses many of them too, and other countries use Su-30 variants and do not even come close to the same issues as India does, other than supply of spare parts which now there are new agreements for.

    I do not believe something India states about the systems they use.  Look at the past Indian airforce had, and the only aircraft they had in decent service numbers was the Mirage jets, and I think that mostly those were having common spare parts sold to them and on time.

    Edit: Also, for the sake of not looking like an idiot, please do not add words in like "Russian inferior quality" when that wasn't even posted in the article.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Aug 13, 2016 8:58 pm

    sepheronx wrote:I believe we have gone over this.

    Essentially, the MiG-29Kub's that India uses are assembled in India.  Russia also uses the MiG-29K in good numbers and they are not reporting even close to the same issues.  Essentially, India has a huge problem overall in maintenance of its aircrafts and the ability to assemble them or manufacture them.  For instance, they have issues with the Su-30MKI, yet, Russia uses many of them too, and other countries use Su-30 variants and do not even come close to the same issues as India does, other than supply of spare parts which now there are new agreements for.

    I do not believe something India states about the systems they use.  Look at the past Indian airforce had, and the only aircraft they had in decent service numbers was the Mirage jets, and I think that mostly those were having common spare parts sold to them and on time.

    Edit: Also, for the sake of not looking like an idiot, please do not add words in like "Russian inferior quality" when that wasn't even posted in the article.

    Just look at the source, it's the same site that promotes India going to war with China, abandoning Russia for the U.S., and attacks Russia, China, and Iran every chance it gets. It's just Neo-con psycho babble!

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    Post  Pincus Shain on Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:24 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Edit: Also, for the sake of not looking like an idiot, please do not add words in like "Russian inferior quality" when that wasn't even posted in the article.

    There is no need to say someone I look like an idiot. Especially when the article clearly does criticize Russian weapons in that very tone (unfairly in my opinion). All I did was post an article to get other views on it. To be frank in the article Arun Prakash, who served as chief of the Indian Naval Staff was cited as saying:

    "The roots of these problems (serviceability and defects) lie in the extremely poor quality control in the Russian military-industrial complex and dismal product support being rendered by the Russian industry to the Indian Navy for the past 25 years,"

    To me that means he is accusing Russian arms of being inferior quality, a point that I do NOT agree with and a point that i believe is not valid given the fact that India continually purchases Russian weaponry when it has the option of choosing US/Europe etc.

    NOTE: I am a fan of the Fulcrum family and I do not hate on it, this is something I can across that surprised me and I wanted the opinion of others here who clearly are more knowledgeable on the subject than I am. Anyway I am not interested in a fight, I am here to learn things from the people on the forum but at the same time I do not appreciate being called an idiot. Anyway whats done is done. Have a nice day and thanks for the constructive part of your post.
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    Post  Benya on Sat Aug 13, 2016 11:43 pm

    Izvestiya: OAK says MiG-35 to begin state tests late summer, finish before 2017. Contract to be signed early 2017.

    Defense Ministry: is about to begin serial production of the latest MiG-35



    This is the most advanced aircraft in the family of "MiG", which is considered as a transitional stage to the fifth-generation fighter

    VKS Russian plan to buy new Russian light fighter MiG-35, which will soon go into serial production, said the Chief of the Military Space Forces Colonel-General Viktor Bondarev.

    "Work on the MiG-35 are in full swing. Aircraft, I think, will soon become a series, and we have this aircraft will also buy "- Bondarev said.

    July 19, "Izvestia" reported that the United Aircraft Corporation at the end of the summer will begin flight tests of the MiG-35 fighters. Aircraft will be tested until 2017, said then Vice-President for Innovation and Sergei Korotkov said that after the tests can be contracted to serial delivery of the Ministry of Defence aircraft.

    MiG-35 is a multipurpose fighter generation 4 ++, which is an improved model of the MiG-29K / KUB and MiG-29M / M2 and is considered as a transitional stage to the fifth-generation fighter. He is the most perfect in the family of fighters, developed by the Russian Aircraft Corporation "MiG". The aircraft is equipped with electronic equipment, which allows the use of all means of destruction of aircraft.

    The armament of the MiG-35 aircraft entered advanced weapons, not previously offered for export, according to the Ministry of Defense reported.


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    Post  sepheronx on Sun Aug 14, 2016 5:57 am

    Pincus Shain wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    Edit: Also, for the sake of not looking like an idiot, please do not add words in like "Russian inferior quality" when that wasn't even posted in the article.

    There is no need to say someone I look like an idiot. Especially when the article clearly does criticize Russian weapons in that very tone (unfairly in my opinion). All I did was post an article to get other views on it. To be frank in the article Arun Prakash, who served as chief of the Indian Naval Staff was cited as saying:

    "The roots of these problems (serviceability and defects) lie in the extremely poor quality control in the Russian military-industrial complex and dismal product support being rendered by the Russian industry to the Indian Navy for the past 25 years,"

    To me that means he is accusing Russian arms of being inferior quality, a point that I do NOT agree with and a point that i believe is not valid given the fact that India continually purchases Russian weaponry when it has the option of choosing US/Europe etc.

    NOTE: I am a fan of the Fulcrum family and I do not hate on it, this is something I can across that surprised me and I wanted the opinion of others here who clearly are more knowledgeable on the subject than I am. Anyway I am not interested in a fight, I am here to learn things from the people on the forum but at the same time I do not appreciate being called an idiot. Anyway whats done is done. Have a nice day and thanks for the constructive part of your post.

    All I am trying to do is provide you with insight regarding posting to keep your credibility. People tend to get mad or question peoples credibility if they add their own titles to an article. So I am not trying to hate on you or degrade you. Just simply pointing out the obvious.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:26 am

    The only articles I have read claiming there are problems with the MiG-29K in Indian service point to third party components from western sources being the main problem.

    Aircraft are arriving in India where the third party western bits are to be added and they are turning out to be faulty or below par in terms of performance specs.

    The solution is to blame the Russians.

    I am surprised Russia has not been blamed for creating ISIS yet.


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    Post  medo on Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:17 am

    Benya wrote:Izvestiya: OAK says MiG-35 to begin state tests late summer, finish before 2017. Contract to be signed early 2017.

    Defense Ministry: is about to begin serial production of the latest MiG-35



    This is the most advanced aircraft in the family of "MiG", which is considered as a transitional stage to the fifth-generation fighter

    VKS Russian plan to buy new Russian light fighter MiG-35, which will soon go into serial production, said the Chief of the Military Space Forces Colonel-General Viktor Bondarev.

    "Work on the MiG-35 are in full swing. Aircraft, I think, will soon become a series, and we have this aircraft will also buy "- Bondarev said.

    July 19, "Izvestia" reported that the United Aircraft Corporation at the end of the summer will begin flight tests of the MiG-35 fighters. Aircraft will be tested until 2017, said then Vice-President for Innovation and Sergei Korotkov said that after the tests can be contracted to serial delivery of the Ministry of Defence aircraft.

    MiG-35 is a multipurpose fighter generation 4 ++, which is an improved model of the MiG-29K / KUB and MiG-29M / M2 and is considered as a transitional stage to the fifth-generation fighter. He is the most perfect in the family of fighters, developed by the Russian Aircraft Corporation "MiG". The aircraft is equipped with electronic equipment, which allows the use of all means of destruction of aircraft.

    The armament of the MiG-35 aircraft entered advanced weapons, not previously offered for export, according to the Ministry of Defense reported.


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    The plane is actually already well tested with MiG-29M/M2 and MiG-29K/KUB, all they need to test is the new equipment in the plane and weapon integration, so this could really be done in short period of time, so serial production in 2017 is not impossible.

    In that time Russia will most probably officially recognize Novorussia (DNR/LNR), specially if Ukraine start a new war and MiG-35 Will be ideal multirole fighter for Novorussian air force as they Will not need big Su-30 or Su-35 as even whole southeastern Novorussian territory is not that big to need big Flankers. For the start a regiment of two squadrons would be quite enough for their needs. There is a good question, how many ex-Ukrainian MiG-29 pilots remain in Crimea as they could be the base of Novorussian air force fighter pilots and instructors for new young pilots.
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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Benya on Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:10 pm

    medo wrote:
    Benya wrote:Izvestiya: OAK says MiG-35 to begin state tests late summer, finish before 2017. Contract to be signed early 2017.

    Defense Ministry: is about to begin serial production of the latest MiG-35



    This is the most advanced aircraft in the family of "MiG", which is considered as a transitional stage to the fifth-generation fighter

    VKS Russian plan to buy new Russian light fighter MiG-35, which will soon go into serial production, said the Chief of the Military Space Forces Colonel-General Viktor Bondarev.

    "Work on the MiG-35 are in full swing. Aircraft, I think, will soon become a series, and we have this aircraft will also buy "- Bondarev said.

    July 19, "Izvestia" reported that the United Aircraft Corporation at the end of the summer will begin flight tests of the MiG-35 fighters. Aircraft will be tested until 2017, said then Vice-President for Innovation and Sergei Korotkov said that after the tests can be contracted to serial delivery of the Ministry of Defence aircraft.

    MiG-35 is a multipurpose fighter generation 4 ++, which is an improved model of the MiG-29K / KUB and MiG-29M / M2 and is considered as a transitional stage to the fifth-generation fighter. He is the most perfect in the family of fighters, developed by the Russian Aircraft Corporation "MiG". The aircraft is equipped with electronic equipment, which allows the use of all means of destruction of aircraft.

    The armament of the MiG-35 aircraft entered advanced weapons, not previously offered for export, according to the Ministry of Defense reported.


    Original article (in russian)
    Arrow http://izvestia.ru/news/626863#ixzz4HFb2yZ8K

    The plane is actually already well tested with MiG-29M/M2 and MiG-29K/KUB, all they need to test is the new equipment in the plane and weapon integration, so this could really be done in short period of time, so serial production in 2017 is not impossible.

    In that time Russia will most probably officially recognize Novorussia (DNR/LNR), specially if Ukraine start a new war and MiG-35 Will be ideal multirole fighter for Novorussian air force as they Will not need big Su-30 or Su-35 as even whole southeastern Novorussian territory is not that big to need big Flankers. For the start a regiment of two squadrons would be quite enough for their needs. There is a good question, how many ex-Ukrainian MiG-29 pilots remain in Crimea as they could be the base of Novorussian air force fighter pilots and instructors for new young pilots.

    Well, if they would be recognized, I think that both the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics (or Novorossiya as a whole) would be parts of the Russian Federation like the Republic of Chenchnya, Adygea, Buryatia and so on. They would not require a separated air force, but Russian Army and Air Force troops could be stationed there, but I think that is a different topic.

    MiG-29s are already stationed at Kursk (98 km from Russian-Ukrainian border) and at Millerovo (Voronezh region, a mere 38 kilometers from the border), while Su-25 CAS planes are stationed at Buturlinovka and at Borisoglebsk (both at Voronezh region, 144 and 245 kilometers from the border, so in case of another Russo-Ukrainian war, aircraft of these bases would play the main role in the aerial supression of the conflict
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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  medo on Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:47 pm

    Benya wrote:
    medo wrote:
    Benya wrote:Izvestiya: OAK says MiG-35 to begin state tests late summer, finish before 2017. Contract to be signed early 2017.

    Defense Ministry: is about to begin serial production of the latest MiG-35



    This is the most advanced aircraft in the family of "MiG", which is considered as a transitional stage to the fifth-generation fighter

    VKS Russian plan to buy new Russian light fighter MiG-35, which will soon go into serial production, said the Chief of the Military Space Forces Colonel-General Viktor Bondarev.

    "Work on the MiG-35 are in full swing. Aircraft, I think, will soon become a series, and we have this aircraft will also buy "- Bondarev said.

    July 19, "Izvestia" reported that the United Aircraft Corporation at the end of the summer will begin flight tests of the MiG-35 fighters. Aircraft will be tested until 2017, said then Vice-President for Innovation and Sergei Korotkov said that after the tests can be contracted to serial delivery of the Ministry of Defence aircraft.

    MiG-35 is a multipurpose fighter generation 4 ++, which is an improved model of the MiG-29K / KUB and MiG-29M / M2 and is considered as a transitional stage to the fifth-generation fighter. He is the most perfect in the family of fighters, developed by the Russian Aircraft Corporation "MiG". The aircraft is equipped with electronic equipment, which allows the use of all means of destruction of aircraft.

    The armament of the MiG-35 aircraft entered advanced weapons, not previously offered for export, according to the Ministry of Defense reported.


    Original article (in russian)
    Arrow http://izvestia.ru/news/626863#ixzz4HFb2yZ8K

    The plane is actually already well tested with MiG-29M/M2 and MiG-29K/KUB, all they need to test is the new equipment in the plane and weapon integration, so this could really be done in short period of time, so serial production in 2017 is not impossible.

    In that time Russia will most probably officially recognize Novorussia (DNR/LNR), specially if Ukraine start a new war and MiG-35 Will be ideal multirole fighter for Novorussian air force as they Will not need big Su-30 or Su-35 as even whole southeastern Novorussian territory is not that big to need big Flankers. For the start a regiment of two squadrons would be quite enough for their needs. There is a good question, how many ex-Ukrainian MiG-29 pilots remain in Crimea as they could be the base of Novorussian air force fighter pilots and instructors for new young pilots.

    Well, if they would be recognized, I think that both the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics (or Novorossiya as a whole) would be parts of the Russian Federation like the Republic of Chenchnya, Adygea, Buryatia and so on. They would not require a separated air force, but Russian Army and Air Force troops could be stationed there, but I think that is a different topic.

    MiG-29s are already stationed at Kursk (98 km from Russian-Ukrainian border) and at Millerovo (Voronezh region, a mere 38 kilometers from the border), while Su-25 CAS planes are stationed at Buturlinovka and at Borisoglebsk (both at Voronezh region, 144 and 245 kilometers from the border, so in case of another Russo-Ukrainian war, aircraft of these bases would play the main role in the aerial supression of the conflict

    No, in case of recognition, they will be recognized as independent state like South Ossetia and Abkhazia and will not be part of Russian Federation. As independent state, Novorussia or DNR/LNR will need their own air force as well as navy, although not large in size. In case Novorussia will grow to whole SE Ukraine from Odessa to Kharkov, than their need in air force and navy will grow to protect longer coast and larger air space. Anyway, for their need combination of MiG-35 and Yak-130 or SR-10 will be more than enough.
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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Benya on Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:30 pm

    medo wrote:

    No, in case of recognition, they will be recognized as independent state like South Ossetia and Abkhazia and will not be part of Russian Federation. As independent state, Novorussia or DNR/LNR will need their own air force as well as navy, although not large in size. In case Novorussia will grow to whole SE Ukraine from Odessa to Kharkov, than their need in air force and navy will grow to protect longer coast and larger air space. Anyway, for their need combination of MiG-35 and Yak-130 or SR-10 will be more than enough.

    Well, at least half of the Donbass region's population is ethnic russian, so it would make sense if they would be annexed by Russia, but again, this is highly off-topic, and there are existing discussions about this.

    And again, why do you think that both regions need an air force? These are self-proclaimed republics, (at the moment) even Russia does not recognize them as independent states. Their governments does not have Ministries of Defense, so they cannot sign defense related contracts with any foerign country. Their militaries are made up from rebels and volunteers.
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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  medo on Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:04 pm

    Benya wrote:Well, at least half of the Donbass region's population is ethnic russian, so it would make sense if they would be annexed by Russia, but again, this is highly off-topic, and there are existing discussions about this.

    And again, why do you think that both regions need an air force? These are self-proclaimed republics, (at the moment) even Russia does not recognize them as independent states. Their governments does not have Ministries of Defense, so they cannot sign defense related contracts with any foerign country. Their militaries are made up from rebels and volunteers.

    Two years ago they were just people who refuse madness of Kiev junta. Now they are more or less a state with their regular state army, who defend itself against Ukrainian nazi regime. With new war, Russia will recognize them and than they could make contracts with recognized independent state. Strong Novorussia is also a good buffer on western Russian border.

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