Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues


    The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Share

    TheArmenian
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1507
    Points : 1670
    Join date : 2011-09-14

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  TheArmenian on Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:53 am

    According to Kiev (Poroshenko's aide Yury Biryukov):

    5 Ukrainian soldiers were killed and 39 injured yesterday.

    Vann7
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 3225
    Points : 3349
    Join date : 2012-05-16

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  Vann7 on Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:53 am


    Was going to post that.. lol

    Anyway.. it shows why the sudden full scale offensive..
    US-Ukraine goal is as i said a million of times is Sabotage of Russia economy
    Defeating Russia in combat is not the goal.. Defeating its economy Is..

    Now Europe will vote soon and declare "Russia not following the Minks-2 agreements"
    and give more sanctions to Russia ,with not a single condemnation to Kiev for the bombing
    and killing of civilians.. Rolling Eyes

    This is why Russia now is paying a big mistake for trusting on Europeans and creating an
    economy so dependent of Europe.. and believing they will leave their Colonial status any day..

    Neither US and its EU colonies will accept ever Russia as a Sovereign Independent nation..
    Russia will only be accepted when it joins the American Mafia club of terrorist and give up
    its power and its nuclear weapons and allow US military bases in Russia to undermine its authority. and allow US to take control of its Bank.. So Russians should stop making Illusions
    that Europeans will ever be free to choose its business relations without the green light of the
    american owners.



    AirCargo
    Junior Sergeant
    Junior Sergeant

    Posts : 104
    Points : 108
    Join date : 2014-05-19
    Location : Seattle, WA. United States

    The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  AirCargo on Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:00 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:...BTW AirCargo how's the weather in the Big NorthWet?

    Dark with scattered lightness towards morning KoTe, Lol.

    KoTeMoRe
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 3549
    Points : 3584
    Join date : 2015-04-21
    Location : Krankhaus Central.

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:02 pm

    AirCargo wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:...BTW AirCargo how's the weather in the Big NorthWet?

    Dark with scattered lightness towards morning KoTe, Lol.

    I hope it isn't about to pour at your corner. Have good day, keep us informed.

    whir
    Major
    Major

    Posts : 809
    Points : 848
    Join date : 2015-04-27

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  whir on Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:22 pm

    @Петро Порошенко via Google Translate wrote:Citizens of Ukraine that are in the temporarily occupied territories regard as Ukrainian prisoners captured invadersContinue reading.

    Hromadske TV via Google Translate wrote:Порошенко виступає за фінансування партій з держбюджету
    Poroshenko supports the funding of political parties from the state budget
    Thursday, June 4, 2015

    President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko supports the transition to budget funding of political parties.

    He said this during a speech to the annual address to Parliament.

    According to him, this will help deoliharhizuvaty Ukrainian policy, which would mean independence parties from businessmen.

    Poroshenko said that the funding of political parties from the state budget a priority even in a difficult economic situation. Continue reading.

    Hromadske TV via Google Translate wrote:Порошенко: Україна збільшить витрати на оборону у 2016 році
    Poroshenko: Ukraine will increase defense spending in 2016
    Thursday, June 4, 2015

    Ukraine in 2016 again increase defense spending and security.

    This was stated by the president of Petro Poroshenko during his speech in the Parliament.

    He stressed that the provision of defense capability will long remain a key priority.

    "No matter how difficult the budget for 2016 ... we will come up against increasing defense spending, because different country we do not protect" - said the president. Continue reading.

    Pravda UA via Google Translate wrote:Знання англійської стане обов'язковим при прийомі на держслужбу
    Knowledge of English will be required when applying for civil service
    Thursday, June 4, 2015, 12:50

    Knowledge of English is a must in the future be the criterion for admission to the civil service.

    This was during his address to Parliament on Wednesday said President Poroshenko.

    "Speaking English is a key criterion for admission to public service. I think it should be implemented gradually in the coming years", - he said.

    He also announced his intention to support the program Go Global , which defines learning English a priority development strategy.

    "Ukraine today is global ranking of countries with the lowest level of English. This is a barrier for Ukrainian for reorientation to Western values ​​and standards. This limits our access to scientific research that 80% are published in English. 55% of the Web pages written in English as well, "- said Poroshenko.

    According to him, 2016 will be announced in Ukraine a year of English.

    This Poroshenko zapevnvy that the priority of the Ukrainian language is obvious.

    Ukrainian Pravda Continue reading.

    Flagship Victory
    Lieutenant Colonel
    Lieutenant Colonel

    Posts : 974
    Points : 922
    Join date : 2015-04-28
    Location : Canada

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  Flagship Victory on Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:52 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:According to Kiev (Poroshenko's aide Yury Biryukov):

    5 Ukrainian soldiers were killed and 39 injured yesterday.

    Not Ukrainian soldiers. Maidanists who burned police officers on Maidan. Maidanists who slaughtered innocent Donbas civilians with ballistic missiles.

    Flagship Victory
    Lieutenant Colonel
    Lieutenant Colonel

    Posts : 974
    Points : 922
    Join date : 2015-04-28
    Location : Canada

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  Flagship Victory on Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:54 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    Was going to post that.. lol

    Anyway.. it shows why the sudden full scale offensive..
    US-Ukraine goal is as i said a million of times is Sabotage of Russia economy
    Defeating Russia in combat is not the goal.. Defeating its economy Is..

    Now Europe will vote soon and declare "Russia not following the Minks-2 agreements"
    and give more sanctions to Russia ,with not a single condemnation to Kiev for the bombing
    and killing of civilians.. Rolling Eyes

    This is why Russia now is paying a big mistake for trusting on Europeans and creating an
    economy so dependent of Europe.. and believing they will leave their Colonial status any day..

    Neither US and its EU colonies will accept ever Russia as a Sovereign Independent nation..
    Russia will only be accepted when it joins the American Mafia club of terrorist and give up
    its power and its nuclear weapons and allow US military bases in Russia to undermine its authority. and allow US to take control of its Bank..  So Russians should stop making Illusions
    that Europeans will ever be free to choose its business relations without the green light of the
    american owners.



    Plus splitting up Russia into little pieces like what they did to Yugoslavia.

    Flagship Victory
    Lieutenant Colonel
    Lieutenant Colonel

    Posts : 974
    Points : 922
    Join date : 2015-04-28
    Location : Canada

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  Flagship Victory on Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:58 pm

    Poroshenko that bastard NATO referendum

    http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/poroshenko-says-referendum-to-make-final-decision-on-ukrainian-membership-in-nato-390234.html


    Poroshenko that bastard economic siege of Donbas unless Maidan gains control of border with Russia

    http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/poroshenko-says-donbas-economic-siege-not-to-be-lifted-before-full-control-over-russian-border-established-390230.html


    In my opinion NAF should launch full scale offensive on Kiev. If Russia won't supply arms, then fine, NAF will use captured arms to fight. I've had enough of this nonsense. No ceasefire. Let it be like Syria. Let it be like Yemen. Make Poroshenko that bastard pay for his crimes against humanity.

    Rodinazombie
    Lieutenant
    Lieutenant

    Posts : 582
    Points : 616
    Join date : 2015-04-22

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  Rodinazombie on Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:13 pm

    Flagship Victory wrote:Poroshenko that bastard NATO referendum

    http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/poroshenko-says-referendum-to-make-final-decision-on-ukrainian-membership-in-nato-390234.html


    Poroshenko that bastard economic siege of Donbas unless Maidan gains control of border with Russia

    http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/poroshenko-says-donbas-economic-siege-not-to-be-lifted-before-full-control-over-russian-border-established-390230.html


    In my opinion NAF should launch full scale offensive on Kiev. If Russia won't supply arms, then fine, NAF will use captured arms to fight. I've had enough of this nonsense. No ceasefire. Let it be like Syria. Let it be like Yemen. Make Poroshenko that bastard pay for his crimes against humanity.

    So basically poroshenko is officially stating that he wont abide by minsk-2?

    Fine, let him burn. We wll know his ideas of a military victory ended last time, ie illovaysk, debalcevo etc etc. Its only the stupidity of the ukrainian people that allows him to get away with this crap time after time.




    Karl Haushofer
    Senior Lieutenant
    Senior Lieutenant

    Posts : 635
    Points : 634
    Join date : 2015-05-03

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  Karl Haushofer on Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:32 pm

    Rodinazombie wrote:
    So basically poroshenko is officially stating that he wont abide by minsk-2?

    Fine, let him burn. We wll know his ideas of a military victory ended last time, ie illovaysk, debalcevo etc etc. Its only the stupidity of the ukrainian people that allows him to get away with this crap time after time.
    He has nothing to lose as long as Russia is not willing to use real military power to make him back off. The West will obviously let Kiev to do whatever it wants and the West only protests when the NAF repels the Kiev attacks and goes for an offensive.

    I hope Russia would send two high precision missiles to Kiev. One to SBU building and one to Rada building. In working hours. And then say that Ukraine shelled itself Smile

    Rodinazombie
    Lieutenant
    Lieutenant

    Posts : 582
    Points : 616
    Join date : 2015-04-22

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  Rodinazombie on Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:45 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    Rodinazombie wrote:
    So basically poroshenko is officially stating that he wont abide by minsk-2?

    Fine, let him burn. We wll know his ideas of a military victory ended last time, ie illovaysk, debalcevo etc etc. Its only the stupidity of the ukrainian people that allows him to get away with this crap time after time.
    He has nothing to lose as long as Russia is not willing to use real military power to make him back off. The West will obviously let Kiev to do whatever it wants and the West only protests when the NAF repels the Kiev attacks and goes for an offensive.

    I hope Russia would send two high precision missiles to Kiev. One to SBU building and one to Rada building. In working hours. And then say that Ukraine shelled itself Smile

    The problem with the west allowing kiev to continue this fight is that russia will not allow kiev a military victory, so its completely pointless for the west to let kiev do it. Theres no victory there, the only thing that ensures is more people die, the ukrainian economy continues to curl up and die and the people at some point will start to realise what a corrupt gang of criminals the regime are, and that the west doesnt give two fcuks about them, they are just pawns in the game against russia.

    The best thing that the west and ukraine could do, is to cut its losses with crimea and donbass, allow them complete freedom as independent states and then start building their own little bandera loving totalitarian pro nato/anti russia ukrainian state.

    The only danger there for ukraine is that other parts of ukraine such as kharkov and odessa may start to become unsettled too, but thats a small risk judging by there lack of action so far, and in any event its better than the current death by a thousand paper cuts that ukraine is currently undergoing.


    Last edited by Rodinazombie on Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:54 pm; edited 1 time in total

    Erk
    Junior Lieutenant
    Junior Lieutenant

    Posts : 474
    Points : 485
    Join date : 2015-04-26

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  Erk on Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:51 pm

    Rodinazombie wrote:
    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    Rodinazombie wrote:
    So basically poroshenko is officially stating that he wont abide by minsk-2?

    Fine, let him burn. We wll know his ideas of a military victory ended last time, ie illovaysk, debalcevo etc etc. Its only the stupidity of the ukrainian people that allows him to get away with this crap time after time.
    He has nothing to lose as long as Russia is not willing to use real military power to make him back off. The West will obviously let Kiev to do whatever it wants and the West only protests when the NAF repels the Kiev attacks and goes for an offensive.

    I hope Russia would send two high precision missiles to Kiev. One to SBU building and one to Rada building. In working hours. And then say that Ukraine shelled itself Smile

    The problem with the west allowing kiev to continue this fight is that russia will not allow kiev a military victory, so its completely pointless for the west to let kiev do it. Theres no victory there, the only thing that ensures is more people die, the ukrainian economy continues to curl up and die and the people at some point will start to realise what a corrupt gang of criminals the regime are, and that the west doesnt give two fcuks about them, they are just pawns in the game against russia.

    The best thing that the west and ukraine could do, is to cut its losses with crimea and donbass, allow them complete freedom as independent states and then start building a totally pro nato/anti russia ukrainian state.

    The only danger there for ukraine is that other parts of ukraine such as kharkov and odessa may start to become unsettled too, but thats a small risk judging by there lack of action so far, and in any event its better than the current death by a thousand paper cuts that ukraine is currently undergoing.

    The point of the Ukraine conflict apart from plundering the assets, is to drive a wedge between Russia and the EU, they were getting too close, so the oligarchs that run the West want to put a stop to that.

    Karl Haushofer
    Senior Lieutenant
    Senior Lieutenant

    Posts : 635
    Points : 634
    Join date : 2015-05-03

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  Karl Haushofer on Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:17 pm

    Rodinazombie wrote:
    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    Rodinazombie wrote:
    So basically poroshenko is officially stating that he wont abide by minsk-2?

    Fine, let him burn. We wll know his ideas of a military victory ended last time, ie illovaysk, debalcevo etc etc. Its only the stupidity of the ukrainian people that allows him to get away with this crap time after time.
    He has nothing to lose as long as Russia is not willing to use real military power to make him back off. The West will obviously let Kiev to do whatever it wants and the West only protests when the NAF repels the Kiev attacks and goes for an offensive.

    I hope Russia would send two high precision missiles to Kiev. One to SBU building and one to Rada building. In working hours. And then say that Ukraine shelled itself Smile

    The problem with the west allowing kiev to continue this fight is that russia will not allow kiev a military victory, so its completely pointless for the west to let kiev do it. Theres no victory there, the only thing that ensures is more people die, the ukrainian economy continues to curl up and die and the people at some point will start to realise what a corrupt gang of criminals the regime are, and that the west doesnt give two fcuks about them, they are just pawns in the game against russia.

    The best thing that the west and ukraine could do, is to cut its losses with crimea and donbass, allow them complete freedom as independent states and then start building their own little bandera loving totalitarian pro nato/anti russia ukrainian state.

    The only danger there for ukraine is that other parts of ukraine such as kharkov and odessa may start to become unsettled too, but thats a small risk judging by there lack of action so far, and in any event its better than the current death by a thousand paper cuts that ukraine is currently undergoing.

    I responded with a long reply but something went wrong when I sent it and I lost it.

    Anyway, the West has nothing to lose and everything to win to make this war last longer and become bloodier, because no Western citizens are dying, no western infrastructure is being destroyed and this gives the West a good pretext to sanction, isolate, blame, threaten and demonize Russia. The western motives are evil and sinister, but unfortunately they also make sense. This war makes Russia weaker and drains Russia's resources and gives the West a chance to present itself from moral high ground.

    Maidan was a major victory for the West. They managed to install a crazy government in Kiev that will do anything to antagonize Russia even if it hurts Ukraine itself. They created a monster right next to Russia. A monster that presents no danger to the West and that can be used to harm Russia in many different ways.

    The West wants for this war to continue for a long, long time. This is why they are propping up Ukraine and arming them. They want to see a lot of blood of Eastern Slavs. I bet they get great satisfaction from hearing another child being killed by Ukrainian shelling and then, with a smile on their faces, blame it all on Russia.

    Karl Haushofer
    Senior Lieutenant
    Senior Lieutenant

    Posts : 635
    Points : 634
    Join date : 2015-05-03

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  Karl Haushofer on Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:25 pm

    The best thing for Russia would be to find a way to end this war quickly. Currently there are no other ways to do that than usage of military force, including missiles, to wipe out Ukrainian military assets throughout the whole country. The strike would also have to include wiping out the administrative buildings in Kiev (SBU, Rada etc.) during working hours that would kill most of the active leadership of the current Kiev regime with one punch.

    Russia will not do this for many reasons (which many are good reasons), so this war will continue for a long time. Expecting the Kiev regime to collapse is a waste of time. It won't. The West will support it just enough for it to get by and finance the war. The cost for the West for financing this war is very small when compared to the benefits of hurting Russia.

    Karl Haushofer
    Senior Lieutenant
    Senior Lieutenant

    Posts : 635
    Points : 634
    Join date : 2015-05-03

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  Karl Haushofer on Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:37 pm

    Of course the third option would be for the Novorossiya to surrender and face the punishment from the nazis. This would also have to include the return of Crimea to Ukraine. Now the West would have no reason to keep up its sanctions and the business would return to normal (yeah, right Smile The sanctions would still probably not be removed ).

    So from these three options pick your poison.

    1. Full attack against Kiev junta including missile strikes to Kiev.
    2. Letting the war in Donbass to continue for years.
    3. Surrender and return of Crimea to Ukraine.


    Last edited by Karl Haushofer on Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:40 pm; edited 1 time in total

    sepheronx
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 7302
    Points : 7612
    Join date : 2009-08-06
    Age : 27
    Location : Canada

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:39 pm

    http://sputniknews.com/world/20150604/1022932357.html

    This is gold. So the bellingcat loser gets called out on his BS reporting as I posted earlier, and he just insults the blog. When RT offered to do a live interview to prevent his idea they edit footage, he refused to be on a propaganda channel. And just goes straight to insults.

    The guy is not only a tool, but also just proved to the rest of us how lousy a person he is.

    whir
    Major
    Major

    Posts : 809
    Points : 848
    Join date : 2015-04-27

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  whir on Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:01 pm

    sepheronx wrote:The guy is not only a tool, but also just proved to the rest of us how lousy a person he is.
    Maybe he is not aware how easy is for RT to hire a working engineer from any mayor imaging software company.

    higurashihougi
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 2127
    Points : 2242
    Join date : 2014-08-13
    Location : A small and cutie S-shaped land.

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  higurashihougi on Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:08 pm

    whir wrote:
    Hromadske TV via Google Translate wrote:Порошенко виступає за фінансування партій з держбюджету
    Poroshenko supports the funding of political parties from the state budget
    Thursday, June 4, 2015Continue reading.

    I strongly suggest that Porkie need to chew a tie. His stress is getting out of control.

    sepheronx wrote:http://sputniknews.com/world/20150604/1022932357.html

    This is gold. So the bellingcat loser gets called out on his BS reporting as I posted earlier, and he just insults the blog. When RT offered to do a live interview to prevent his idea they edit footage, he refused to be on a propaganda channel. And just goes straight to insults.

    The guy is not only a tool, but also just proved to the rest of us how lousy a person he is.

    Well, probably a tie for bellingcat, too.

    Cowboy's daughter
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1136
    Points : 1175
    Join date : 2015-04-24
    Location : Texas

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  Cowboy's daughter on Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:53 pm

    arpakola wrote:On Eve of EU Vote to Extend Sanctions War Returns to Ukraine
    Resumption of fighting on eve of EU vote on extending sanctions against Russia is a predictable action given the nature of the Ukrainian regime and the multiple crises it faces.
    http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/war-returns-ukraine/ri7711

    Emergent statement of Executive Commander of Corps of the MoD DPR Eduard Basurin
    June 4, 2015, Donetsk

    On June 3 operational situation in the Donetsk People's Republic sharply deteriorated. Executive Commander of Corps of the MoD DPR Eduard Basurin spoke about it at his briefing yesterday.

    "On dawn today Ukrainian Army carried out massive shelling of settlements of the Donetsk People's Republic practically along the entire contact line. Such localities as Donetsk, Shirokino, Gorlovka and Spartak were subjected to the most fierce non-precision fire of Ukrainian artillery. Unfortunately, this resulted in great number of civilian casualties. According to the latest reports only in Donetsk there were about 90 victims of yesterday's shelling. The figure is not final. Search and rescue works in the destroyed buildings are still underway. We blame Kiev for the drastic deterioration of the situation. In the course of the recent weeks we have been registering Kiev's efforts to bring up heavy artillery and armoured vehicles to the contact line. We named certain localities and and the number of dislocated there in violation of the Minsk Agreement Ukrainian equipment and armaments. We warned about Kiev's efforts aimed at formation of large number of covert groups and preparation of a big-scale provocation in order to accuse the DPR in wrecking of the Minsk Agreement. Unfortunately, neither submitting of the information to the OSCE observers, no open appeals to Kiev's tutors in the West did not make any effects. We expected the big-scale provocation of the part of Ukrainian forces in the night from Friday to Saturday on the eve of the forthcoming summit in Germany of the biggest Western countries' leaders. Nevertheless Kiev, as we can see now, did not wait for the orders from its Western tutors and organized massive attacks along the entire contact line in view of tomorrow's Poroshenko's annual speech in the parliament.

    I'd like to stress that the Armed Forces of the DPR in the course of the last 24 hours, owing to their selflessness and even at times self-sacrificing attitude, managed to stop the advance of the enemy deep into the Republic. The plan of a "small victory" in Donbass for the decoration of Poroshenko's speech in the Rada went awry.

    This victory was to occur in the area of Maryinka. In the first half of the day out reconnaissance registered an unusual liveliness at the enemy's positions there. Then Ukrainian military at first opened fire from their position in the nearby Krasnogorovka, and then - at the Ukrainian Army positions in Maryinka. Allegedly, in response to this shelling Ukrainian artillery dislocated in the part of Maryinka under Kiev control opened massive artillery fire on our position in the outskirts of Donetsk. Soon the artillery of UAF dislocated in Krasnogorovka joined in. As a result the positions of our Armed Forces in the outskirt of Donetsk came under artillery cross-fire.

    The fact that the provocation was pre-planned by Kiev does not raise any doubts. Ukrainian shells had hardly dropped on our positions in the outskirts, when Ukrainian media filled with the headlines declaring the alleged wrecking by the DPR Army of the Minsk Agreement and start of our offensive at their positions. Under the canopy of this massive shelling Ukrainian forces moved from Novoselovka to Maryinka and Krasnogorovka altogether two tank units and about 300 of personnel. They are still stationed there. Thus, the covert goal of Kiev's provocation was the abrupt increase of the banned in accordance with the Minsk Agreement Ukrainian heavy artillery and equipment in the outskirt of Donetsk in order to carry out the next provocation on Saturday or to storm Donetsk.

    We call upon the Ukrainian side to stop provocations and strictly adhere to the reached in Minsk on February 12 peace agreements. The units of the DPR Army do not plan any offensive activities that are prone to wreck the ceasefire regime and fierce and full-scale war", – Basurin said.  

    90 victims in Donetsk??

    The whole affair from the beginning (maidan) to now is sickening.

    Cowboy's daughter
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1136
    Points : 1175
    Join date : 2015-04-24
    Location : Texas

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  Cowboy's daughter on Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:43 pm

    John Delacour ‏@JohnDelacour 38m38 minutes ago

    #DONETSK
    According to reports from the front a new “#AVDEEVKA CAULDRON” is forming
    —@kp_steshin
    […and about time too ! Ed. ]


    Cowboy's daughter
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1136
    Points : 1175
    Join date : 2015-04-24
    Location : Texas

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  Cowboy's daughter on Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:53 pm

    Ukrainian Crisis Updates

    http://www.uacrisis.com/2015/06/

    Flagship Victory
    Lieutenant Colonel
    Lieutenant Colonel

    Posts : 974
    Points : 922
    Join date : 2015-04-28
    Location : Canada

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  Flagship Victory on Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:15 pm

    Cowboy's daughter wrote:John Delacour ‏@JohnDelacour 38m38 minutes ago

    #DONETSK
    According to reports from the front a new “#AVDEEVKA CAULDRON” is forming
    —@kp_steshin
    […and about time too ! Ed. ]


    No more ceasefire?

    Flagship Victory
    Lieutenant Colonel
    Lieutenant Colonel

    Posts : 974
    Points : 922
    Join date : 2015-04-28
    Location : Canada

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  Flagship Victory on Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:22 pm

    Russia considers giving gas discounts to Ukraine which is Russia's brother nation

    http://www.kyivpost.com/content/business/russia-considering-gas-discount-for-ukraine-for-third-quarter-or-till-year-end-390262.html


    Liesenko says 80 NAF fighters killed yesterday

    http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/lysenko-says-eighty-russian-separatist-forces-killed-over-100-wounded-in-maryinka-390260.html


    Last edited by Flagship Victory on Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:28 pm; edited 2 times in total

    Karl Haushofer
    Senior Lieutenant
    Senior Lieutenant

    Posts : 635
    Points : 634
    Join date : 2015-05-03

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  Karl Haushofer on Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:27 pm

    Flagship Victory wrote:Russia considers giving gas discounts to Ukraine which is Russia's brother nation

    http://www.kyivpost.com/content/business/russia-considering-gas-discount-for-ukraine-for-third-quarter-or-till-year-end-390262.html
    This will make many people angry.

    Flagship Victory
    Lieutenant Colonel
    Lieutenant Colonel

    Posts : 974
    Points : 922
    Join date : 2015-04-28
    Location : Canada

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  Flagship Victory on Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:38 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    Flagship Victory wrote:Russia considers giving gas discounts to Ukraine which is Russia's brother nation

    http://www.kyivpost.com/content/business/russia-considering-gas-discount-for-ukraine-for-third-quarter-or-till-year-end-390262.html
    This will make many people angry.

    Yea. And the thing is. Maidan was orchestrated by CIA so if Russia even utters a word of resistance, boom sanctions boom more and more sanctions. Let's not kid ourselves, Maidan's purpose is to kill Russia as a state.

    Sponsored content

    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

    Post  Sponsored content Today at 11:23 pm


      Current date/time is Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:23 pm