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    Re: BMP-1/BMP-2 Upgrades and Variants

    Post  franco on Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:06 pm

    580 BMP-2's to receive a light modernization;

    http://echelon-defense.com/2016/08/27/russia-to-partially-overhaul-its-bmp-2-infantry-fighting-vehicle-fleet/
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    Re: BMP-1/BMP-2 Upgrades and Variants

    Post  franco on Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:28 am

    Army will purchase "Berezhok"

    The fighting compartment "Berezhok" for infantry fighting vehicles BMP-2 and BMP-3 in the near future will start shipping in the Russian Armed Forces, not only for export, told reporters on Friday the company chief designer "Shcheglovsky shaft" (part of the NGO "Precision complexes ") Oleg Sitnikov.
    "The fighting compartment" Berezhok ", which is currently only available for export in the near future will be made for the Russian army," - Sitnikov said.


    Hopefully for the 580 BMP-2 slated for modernization from the previous post.
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    Re: BMP-1/BMP-2 Upgrades and Variants

    Post  Militarov on Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:10 pm

    franco wrote:580 BMP-2's to receive a light modernization;

    http://echelon-defense.com/2016/08/27/russia-to-partially-overhaul-its-bmp-2-infantry-fighting-vehicle-fleet/







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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:31 pm

    So they just demonstrated brand new remote controlled turret and now they're buying late 1990's turret. OK.

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    Re: BMP-1/BMP-2 Upgrades and Variants

    Post  kopyo-21 on Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:24 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:So they just demonstrated brand new remote controlled turret and now 7they're buying late 1990's turret. OK.
    Remotely controlled turret has its own pros & coins and much more expensive than man controlled turret. This solution is reasonable and not so bad for an old platform like BMP-2.
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    Re: BMP-1/BMP-2 Upgrades and Variants

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:15 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:So they just demonstrated brand new remote controlled turret and now they're buying late 1990's turret. OK.

    Cheap modernization makes sense, it's better to save money to acquire more K-25's. No amount of money spent for modernizing BMP-2 will give it K-25 performance.
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    Re: BMP-1/BMP-2 Upgrades and Variants

    Post  GarryB on Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:12 am

    Remote control turrets make sense for the new vehicles with unmanned turrets but make little sense with previous generation vehicles.

    On a Boomerang or Kurganets or Armata an unmanned robot turret is normal as the crew are in the hull under the heaviest armour.

    On the BMP-2 there is no room in the hull for the gunner and the commander... it has a drivers position next to the engine and what was the commanders position behind him with the gunner in the turret as with the BMP-1, but moving the commander back into the hull and having no where for the gunner to sit is a step backwards.

    Remote turrets make sense for UGVs and the new generation vehicles but not as an upgrade to an old type.


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    Re: BMP-1/BMP-2 Upgrades and Variants

    Post  Benya on Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:53 am

    Berezhok combat turret has increased the firepower of BMP-2 IFV Infantry Fighting Vehicle

    The Berezhok combat module has increased both the firepower and controllability of Russia’s BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicle (IFV), Russian Army Commander-in-Chief Colonel-General Oleg Salyukov said.


    BMP-2 IFV (Infantry Fighting Vehicle) with Berezhok combat module

    "Work is nearing completion to enhance the BMP-2 IFV’s firepower and controllability by equipping it with the Berezhok combat module. The promising B-11 infantry fighting vehicle that is based on the Kurganets-25 chassis and features improved characteristics is currently undergoing trials," Salyukov said.

    According to the commander, BMP-3 and upgraded BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicles are being purchased to arm motor rifle units and an advanced armored personnel carrier based on the Bumerang chassis has been developed.

    "In addition to the upgraded BTR-82AM armored personnel carrier that has proved its effectiveness, we are developing the advanced K-17 armored personnel carrier based on the Bumerang chassis, which will be superior to the best foreign-made analogs and incorporate more innovative solutions and cutting-edge technologies," Salyukov said.

    The Berezhok combat module has been developed on the basis of the serial-produced turret of the BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicle by the Instrument-Making Design Bureau on its own initiative.

    The Berezhok combat module is armed with the 30 mm 2A42 main gun used on the BMP-2 IFV, a PKT 7.62 mm coaxial machine gun. four 9M133 Kornet-E anti-tank guided missiles and one AGS-30 30 mm automatic grenade launcher. The Berezhok upgrade also includes a new fire-control system and optics.

    The BMP-2 IFV with the Berezhok combat module was unveiled at the MVSV 2006 International Army Weapons Exhibition in Moscow.

    Source: Arrow http://www.armyrecognition.com/weapons_defence_industry_military_technology_uk/berezhok_combat_turret_has_increased_the_firepower_of_bmp-2_ifv_infantry_fighting_vehicle_tass_11512163.html



    I don't know how many BMP-2s will be refitted with the "Berezhok" combat module, but I think that they should also receive some additional side armor like the BMP-3M.

    Side armor on the BMP-3M.



    Pics of a BMP-2 equipped with some additional side/lower glacis armor.



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    Re: BMP-1/BMP-2 Upgrades and Variants

    Post  VladimirSahin on Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:08 pm

    Is it confirmed that BMP-2s will be upgraded? If so the ground forces will enjoy some serious firepower and sensor upgrades.
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    Re: BMP-1/BMP-2 Upgrades and Variants

    Post  Benya on Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:30 pm

    VladimirSahin wrote:Is it confirmed that BMP-2s will be upgraded? If so the ground forces will enjoy some serious firepower and sensor upgrades.

    I really hope so, but I don't know it for sure. They should also install the Berezhok combat module to the BMP-1, since it would be more useful than the current, cramped one-man turret with that 73mm recoilless rifle.

    Speaking about the BMP-1, they should also upgrade their traction, crew compartment, engine, NBC defense and other systems/elecronics, and get rid of that two fuel tanks on the outside of the crew compartment doors.
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    Re: BMP-1/BMP-2 Upgrades and Variants

    Post  franco on Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:50 pm

    The first mention from the Ministry of Defense of the "Berezhok" being installed on upgraded BMP-2's;

    http://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12107642@egNews

    Edit: should read "first mention confirming"


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    Re: BMP-1/BMP-2 Upgrades and Variants

    Post  miketheterrible on Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:25 pm

    New optics. So thermal?
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    Re: BMP-1/BMP-2 Upgrades and Variants

    Post  KiloGolf on Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:54 pm

    Anybody knows what happened to Afghan war's BMP-2D (NATO called it BMP-2E) post-1989?
    I never noticed any in Russian service.



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    Re: BMP-1/BMP-2 Upgrades and Variants

    Post  Militarov on Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:57 am

    miketheterrible wrote:New optics.  So thermal?

    "The gunner`s sight has four channels: optical, thermal imaging, laser rangefinder and ATGM control channel. The commander has received panoramic sight with laser rangefinder and television channel."

    Even tho its quite stupid calling laser rangefinder as separate channel.

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