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    Kyo
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    Russian-Japanese relations

    Post  Kyo on Sun May 24, 2015 11:55 pm

    Moskow and Tokyo: Is a Rapprochement Possible?

    Tokyo’s decision to bring the theme of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s visit to the fore, as well as State Duma Speaker Sergey Naryshkin’s meeting with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe are both signs of a likely warming in bilateral relations, Russian analysts believe. Japan cannot but feel uneasy about the latest rapprochement in Russian-Chinese contacts. Also, it would like to demonstrate its independence to Washington.

    The Japanese Pivot

    Japan suddenly said that it is inviting Vladimir Vladimirovich for a visit, and not just for the sake of small talk but...to conclude a peace treaty and resolve the territorial issue:

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    Post  George1 on Mon May 25, 2015 12:06 am

    No way until Japan have claims in Kuril islands

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    Re: Russian-Japanese relations

    Post  VladimirSahin on Mon May 25, 2015 12:11 am

    George1 wrote:No way until Japan have claims in Kuril islands

    Then too bad for them.

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    Post  max steel on Mon May 25, 2015 12:13 am

    KURIL ISLANDS Dispute will take more time to resolve . No i don't think Japan will pivot to russia . Japan provides critical location for yanks to launch missiles at russia's far east . Maybe japs are getting worried by seeing warm Russia-sino relations .They have not lifted sanctions yet too .

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    Post  Kyo on Mon May 25, 2015 3:20 am

    George1 wrote:No way until Japan have claims in Kuril islands

    Russia's position has not changed--we are not prepared to give the islands to the Japanese in exchange for a peace treaty: the signing of that document is not so important to us that we would make territorial concessions. Therefore we can carefully conclude that Japan's position has changed. It may be that Japan decided to sign the peace treaty on Russia's terms and finally part with the islands which were under its control for a few decades of the 20th century.

    http://fortruss.blogspot.ru/2015/05/the-japanese-pivot.html

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon May 25, 2015 7:20 am

    We are the primary reason they have a defence force so I doubt it.


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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon May 25, 2015 7:34 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:We are the primary reason they have a defence force so I doubt it.

    I'm also doubtful, the Japanese refuse to have a peace treaty signed with Russia or whatever, because they still believe they were the victims of WW2, not the millions of people raped and slaughtered in East Asia and Indo-China, which is why the US has been struggling mightly to get South Korea and Japan to cooperate militarily.

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    Re: Russian-Japanese relations

    Post  Kyo on Tue May 26, 2015 1:28 am

    US pressuring Japan over Tokyo's policy towards closer ties with Russia

    The US presidential administration has started explicitly showing its discontent over the Japanese government’s policy in regard to Russia, the Kyodo news agency said in a commentary published on Monday...According to the agency, at talks in the White House on April 28, the Japanese prime minister "noted the importance of dialogue with Moscow," and said he wanted "the visit of the Russian president to Japan to be held this year...."Abe said in his greeting message to the participants of the third Russia-Japan forum that opened in Tokyo on May 21 that he was ready to raise relations with Russia "to a new level."

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    Post  kvs on Tue May 26, 2015 1:57 am

    Japan is like the Baltics and Bandera-tards.  They refuse to accept any guilt for WWII.   Even though they conducted sick
    Mengele style experimentation (Unit 731).   Their whole position on the Kuriles is part and parcel of this denial.   They
    lost these islands much like Germany lost a lot of its land.   Such is the price of war.   Japan, being the loser, does not
    get to set the standard and demand the return of its lost lands.  

    The USSR made an unreasonable compromise during the 1950s.   This only gave Japan, a US protectorate, more "bravery"
    to go after all of its losses.   Russia should outright state to Japan that it will never negotiate the results of WWII.   Japan
    has to live with the consequences of its actions.   But instead it produces some of the worst revisionist textbooks on the
    planet.

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    Japan's Ex-PM Urges Abe to Lift Anti-Russian Sanctions

    Post  Pinto on Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:07 pm

    Japan's former Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama, who visited Crimea in March, called on Shinzo Abe to lift restrictive measures that Tokyo along with other Western countries imposed on Moscow after the Black Sea peninsula joined Russia.

    "I think Japan should take a step back from the economic sanctions. Sadly, during the recent G7 summit Prime Minister Shinzo Abe went in favor of the decision to extend the economic sanctions against Russia for six months. I hope that the Prime Minister understands that was undesirable for Japan," Yukio Hatoyama told RIA Novosti.

    According to the former prime minister, Shinzo Abe should re-evaluate his stance on the restrictive measures, which hurt bilateral relations.

    "I expect Russian-Japanese relations to improve if Tokyo does not support sanctions or lifts them," the politician said. Hatoyama, who served as Japan's prime minister from September 2009 to June 2010, has long called on Tokyo to conduct foreign policy independent of the US and opposed anti-Russian sanctions.

    Western countries, including Japan, imposed several rounds of sanctions on Moscow following Crimea's reunification with Russia, which they claim was against the norms of international law. But Yukio Hatoyama does not share this view.

    Despite fierce criticism in Japan, the former prime minister embarked on a three-day visit to Crimea in March.
    During the visit he urged Japanese nationals from all walks of life to visit the Russian peninsula and see with their own eyes what life there was like and how different this picture was from the one painted in the media.

    Hatoyama also noted that while in Crimea he became convinced that the 2014 referendum was in line with both the Ukrainian Constitution and the norms of international law. He also reiterated his view that Japan should reject its sanctions policy as a first step towards improved relations with Russia.

    http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150620/1023627553.html#ixzz3dcKO8hyi

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    Post  George1 on Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:07 am

    Russian, Japanese foreign ministers to discuss issues of peace treaty conclusion in Moscow

    Lavrov and Kishida will also discuss bilateral cooperation aimed at ensuring global and regional security during Japanese foreign minister's working visit to Russia on September 20 to 22

    MOSCOW, September 18. /TASS/. Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and his Japanese counterpart Fumio Kishida will focus on promotion of the negotiation process aimed at conclusion of a peace treaty between Russia and Japan, Russia's Foreign Ministry said on Friday.

    "Japanese Foreign Minister [Fumio] Kishida's working visit to Russia will take place on September 20 to 22," the Russian Foreign Ministry said." His talks with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov are scheduled for the visit as well as [Kishida’s] participation in the ninth session of the Russian-Japanese intergovernmental commission on trade and economy."

    "During the upcoming meeting, the ministers will exchange views on the whole range of bilateral agenda and also will focus on topical international issues of mutual interest," the ministry said in a commentary. "Issues related to the negotiation process aimed at conclusion of the peace treaty are due to be on the table. The Russian side clearly accentuates that the promotion in this aspect cannot be possible if Japan fails to recognize the post-war historic realities."

    Also, Lavrov and Kishida will discuss bilateral cooperation aimed at ensuring global and regional security.

    "Along with bilateral dialogue formats, including a mechanism of Russian-Japanese consultations between Security Councils, which have been in effect since March 2014, the Russian-Japanese project, which was held under the auspices of the UN Office on Drugs and Crime, on training Afghan drug police at the Russian Interior Ministry’s Domodedovo Staff Training Institute has been successfully implemented," the commentary said. "The ministers are expected to exchange views on steps for tightening cooperation in this sphere.".


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    Re: Russian-Japanese relations

    Post  George1 on Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:22 am

    Russia-Japan Trade Turnover to Decrease by 30% in 2015

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/business/20151222/1032123033/russia-japan-trade-turnover-decrease.html#ixzz3v2X5FK9v


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    Re: Russian-Japanese relations

    Post  max steel on Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:02 pm

    Russian Nuclear-Capable Bombers Circumnavigate Japan

    On Tuesday, January 26, Japan’s Ministry of Defense revealed that the Japanese Air Self-Defense Force had scrambled jets in response to two Russian Tu-95MS “Bear” strategic bombers near its air space. According to a map released by the Japanese government, the two Russian bombers approached Japanese airspace from Russia’s Primorsky province, flying over the Sea of Japan, and eventually flew along the perimeter of Japan’s territorial airspace, encompassing the four main Japanese islands of Honshu, Kyushu, Shikoku, and Hokkaido, before returning to Russia.


    The incident isn’t the first incident involving Russian strategic bombers near Japanese airspace by any means. Moscow regularly conducts such activities and Japan scrambles fighters to ensure that its territorial airspace isn’t violated.

    However, the Tu-95′s flight path in this instance—along the perimeter of Japan’s islands—appears more provocative than usual. Generally, Russian bombers fly long-distance runs. For instance, Russian Tu-95s have been known to fly the length of the Ryukyu Island chain before returning to Russian airspace. (I discussed one such incident here at The Diplomat in late 2013.) Last March, Japan intercepted and escorted a Tu-95 over the Korean Strait between South Korea and Kyushu.

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