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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #1

    Post  Austin on Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:06 am

    Thanks Garry for the wonderful Admin Work Smile

    Interesing post by arjtomh , Seems like Mig-31 was tested in ASAT configuration with live firing at LEO targets but without detonating its warhead

    http://russianforces.org/blog/2013/01/another_old_anti-satellite_sys.shtml

    Development of the original aircraft-based ASAT system, known as Kontakt, was approved almost 30 years ago, in November 1984 (as a direct response to the U.S. system that was first tested in 1984). The ground-based component was supposed to include the radio-optical Krona (45Zh6) complex as well as a command complex. The interceptor was carried by a modified MiG-31D aircraft (MilitaryRussia.ru has good photos of the radar and the aircraft). A three-stage interceptor was designed to hit targets at altitudes of 120-600 km (and up to 1500 km after the second stage of the project was completed). The system was supposed to attack up to 24 satellites within a 36-hour period (documents also mention 20-40 satellites in 24 hours).

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    Post  Austin on Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:29 am

    From what it appears Russian are working on ASAT on 3 different fronts.

    1 ) S-500 with ASAT capability for LEO Sats
    2 ) Mig-31D + Incerceptor with ASAT capability for LEO and Polar orbits ( 900 km and higher )
    3 ) Laser A-60 based aircraft with ASAT capability for LEO and Polar orbits.

    I wonder if the A-60 laser is strong enough to take out the optics of satellite at Geostationary orbit i.e 36,000 Km ?

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    Post  medo on Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:42 pm

    Is Mig-31D ASAT interceptor still alive?

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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:59 pm

    Is Mig-31D ASAT interceptor still alive?

    It likely never "died".

    It was likely just suspended for lack of funds.







    (note the bottom photo is the Klub/Kalibr and it was sitting in front of a Mig-29SMT or Su-30 and was not associated with the 31 in the background of the photo.)


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    Post  Viktor on Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:59 am

    Well very interesting link.

    Summary of Almaz-Antej work in 2012

    According to harsh google translator we can conclude some of the 2012 work Almaz-Antej did.

    1. S-400 improvements
    2. Development of S-400 modernization
    3. Development of BUK-M3
    4. Development of Polyment-Redut system
    5. Something about laser protection
    6. 3K96 system (Redut)
    7. 97L6 long range radar
    8. Modernization of Moscow ABM capability


    In continuation of the article each of these points are explained in detail but that`s where google translator ground to a halt.

    Someone with native Russian could spare few minutes of its time to explain to us what does it say.

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    Post  Austin on Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:01 am

    Nice find Viktor , Thanks , My Vote

    I will try to see if google is kind to me Smile

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    Post  Austin on Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:23 am

    Ended in 2012. As it was for JSC "The lead system designer-skoe Bureau Concern PVO "Almaz - Antey" Academician AA Raspletina "? Otshumela celebration died down Christmas fireworks, weary of rest people returned to working weekdays for plans 2013. Well, we recall the long tradition him last year, which was for the preacceptance difficult, and try to tell readers of the most significant achievements GSKB.

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    S-400 "Triumph", ZRAS "polyment-Re-
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    bases to counter in the infra-
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    "Altair" successfully completed the year, has achieved
    decisive results, and prepared the ground for
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    of. Of course, the core of the work was
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    related to the modernization of the missile defense system
    Moscow. Large volume made
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    October 16, 2012 at the Sary-Sha
    gan successfully conducted full-scale operation of poly-
    gonnogo complex defenses.
    October 26, 2012 carried wiring
    two radar systems complexity
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    This shows the success of the SEC
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    STC "NIIRP" also solves the problems of both-
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    readiness of missile
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    denie all the planned works as the action
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    GSKB is completely advertising-exhibition

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    sequence in the center of the sphere of military-technical
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    but it must be emphasized that this is a step-
    etsya most important and responsible for
    further use of technology.
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    professionals can be considered good.
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    of the most important is the question of preparation,
    aration rate. Therefore of great importance
    GSKB given in youth work. In this
    connection has been close interaction with leading-
    schimi universities of Moscow. GSKB partners are-
    are: Moscow Aviation Institute (Nation-
    sional Research University),
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    versity of Radio Engineering, Electronics and automation
    tics, Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology
    (State University), Moscow
    Technical University. Bauman.
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    departments and branch of Radio Engineering

    Faculty are trained about 60 people.
    This work is constantly increasing. In 2012,
    basic departments are open to:
    • Moscow Aviation Institute (Nation-
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    and complexes "and" Mathematical Methods
    data ";
    • Moscow Physical-Technical Institute
    (State University) - "the Special
    Alno aircraft and aeronautical
    information and measurement
    the system. "
    Cooperation is also
    with the Moscow Power Engineering Institute
    (MEI), Moscow Engineering Physics
    Institute (NRNU MEPI), radio
    College of the AA Raspletina.
    Implement the principle of the target set
    to universities. In 2012, so students
    MAI and Bauman killed 30 people. All of them after
    graduation will come to us in GSKB.
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    practical work on pre-
    acceptance or come into the team fully-fledged
    linear terms, having the end of high school
    solid knowledge and full representation
    tion on the subject and the specifics of that
    significantly reduces the run-up
    a top-level, so-nuzh
    tion of the defense industry. Last year,
    trainees in units of "GSKB
    "Almaz-Antey" were 126 students, and co-
    Kami company - 64.
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    students GSKB set especially Fellowships
    Diya. In the first half they got a 10-man
    century, the second - for 20.
    In the plant operates graduate
    rantura, which in 2012 studied 71 human
    century. 13 of them completed it.
    During the year, successfully defended their candidate
    Danish thesis four. One
    Officer GSKB his Doctor of Technical
    Science.
    Successfully carried out another, a third young
    reliably conference in five sections
    which was attended by 79 young co-
    Cove GSKB and enterprises cooperation.
    Economic performance of the pre-
    acceptance for the year contain many items
    and thoroughly described in published reports.
    Perhaps there is no need to cite them in this hundred-
    Tie completely. Cite only two. Revenue
    GSKB from the sale of major operations
    in 2012 exceeded 12 billion rubles.
    It is also noteworthy that the achieved level
    average wage per month (subject to

    basic and additional salary)
    of 61 thousand rubles. That says a lot.
    For the year as a lot of work done
    Repair and reconstruction of the premises on the thermo-
    tory GSKB. A year ago, many of them were
    in a state far from today. Speech
    comes to building number 16 and 10 on the Falcon, territory
    STC "NIIRP" placed in the SEC
    "Altair". Refurbished and prepared
    Two buildings on the site for relocation
    "Altair" SEC "MNIIP." Made a huge
    work to establish them in the tele-
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    renovated auditorium, which now pro-
    attend the formal meetings and holidays
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    Put into operation a new ATS, which allowed
    greatly enhance communication
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    Much attention was paid to issues
    self upgrading and replacement of equipment.
    In 2012, the modernization
    Society was allocated 57 million rubles. These
    funds were used to update
    instrument park, renovation and modernization
    tion of the test equipment, facilities
    complex, Technical documents
    orientation of copiers and other office equipment.
    Was purchased 226 units of change
    ments (mainly company Agilent Technologies)
    for a total of 37.6 million rubles. Park tests
    auxiliary equipment is filled with electro-
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    Engineering (model VT18/20 and VT20/30), as well as
    camera heat and cold model MNC-3312NK,

    otaling 18.3 million rubles. All these tests
    auxiliary equipment is placed on the site
    STC "Altair". Comprehensive technical department
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    machine IDEAL 6550, which is placed on a plane
    schadke SEC "NIEMI", and color scanner models
    2300 Color of the central area "Falcon".
    The cost of this office 1.1 million rubles.
    Our company has traditionally patron
    on educational institutions of Moscow and Under-
    Muscovy. In 2012, rendered sponsor
    help the school № 1384 the AA Lemanskogo.
    A tour of the students in the museum pre-
    acceptance.
    A series of works for the conversion
    and renovations in the suburban schools,
    le-boarding school for children without cross-
    tion of parents in the village Almazova. Provided
    financial assistance in the manufacture of memorial-
    Alno plaque on the facade of the school number 1051 name
    GV Kisunko.
    For 2012 many employees GSKB
    "Almaz-Antey" marked on the results of its
    work and contribution to the strengthening of defense-
    STI country.
    Medal of Honor and the Medal "For Services
    the Fatherland »II degree awarded three
    person.
    Government Prize laureates Ros-
    the Russian Federation in the field of science and technology
    for a complex of works on creation of anti-aircraft missiles
    systems were six of our employees.
    For his significant contribution to the development of the Air Force,
    organization and management of their construction
    and the development of our two colleagues awarded
    Award of the Government of the Russian Federation

    vtion dedicated to the 100th anniversary of the cos-
    Denmark BBC.
    Two representatives GSKB joined the ranks
    distinguished designer of the Russian Fed-
    radio. This is a high rank was assigned to them
    Decree of the President of the Russian Federation.
    One employee of the enterprise became presi-
    dentskim scholarship for 2012-2014.
    Departmental awards Ministry
    Industry and Trade of the Russian Fed-
    radio marked 81. Two of them conferment
    eno title of "Honorary Engineer of." Two
    awarded "Honorary radio operator." Six-
    ten of our employees are awarded the Honorary
    Diploma of Ministry, seventeen were
    thanks.
    46 people awarded the Jubilee Medal
    "100 years of the Air Force," the Ministry
    of Defence of the Russian Federation.
    Success team members GSKB
    marked and awards OJSC "Concern PVO
    "Almaz - Antey".
    22 employees of the company awarded value
    com "For achievements in labor and professional
    tion skills. "
    64 people have received for their achievements
    Letter of OJSC "Concern PVO" Almaz - Antey "
    24 distinguished by the General
    Director of JSC "Concern PVO" Almaz - Antey ".
    10 young professionals have a scholarship-
    Tami Group.
    463 employees received awards of
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    employee, the title of "Distinguished Veteran
    Enterprise "- 79," Veteran Enterprise "-
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    prizes and gifts awarded
    241 people.
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    Prize of AA Raspletina Lau
    reatami were 23 specialist.
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    We did not escape his attention and public
    governmental organizations. In the treasury advances
    lay diplomas laureates of Russian con-
    course "Engineer of the Year - 2011", which will reward-
    Dena's four, and assigned to one
    member of the title "Professional
    Engineer of Russia "and the medal" Engineer
    decade "of the Russian Union of Scientific
    and Engineering Organizations.
    All this indicates a high potential
    tential of our company and good per-
    prospects in 2013, according to the new
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    Post  TR1 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:58 am

    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?99988-Russian-Photos-%28updated-on-regular-basis%29&p=6571965&viewfull=1#post6571965

    Sexy photos of S-400 and Pantsir in the Far East.

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    Post  Viktor on Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:05 am

    [quote="GarryB"]


    (note the bottom photo is the Klub/Kalibr and it was sitting in front of a Mig-29SMT or Su-30 and was not associated with the 31 in the background of the photo.)

    And what have we here @GarryB Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy , finally managed to find some evidence about MIG-31 anti-ship capability I have been telling

    you about but did not have evidence.

    Other suspension arms - reportedly with the installation of container APK-9 can be used missile air-to-surface Kh-59. Also in the late 1990s to show up airshows udarnmaya model MiG-31 Kh-58. In the early 2000s there was a proposal to equip the shock version of the MiG-31 anti-ship missiles "Yakhont" - probably had a view of the export version of the aircraft.



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    The Kh-58 on the starting unit APU-58 under the wing stroke version of the MiG-31. One of the MAKS, the end of 1990 - beginning of the 2000s ( http://militaryphotos.net ). Sketch of the proposed project location RCC "Yakhont" / BrahMos on the MiG-31, the beginning of the 2000s ( http://lib . ec ).

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    Post  TR1 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:56 am

    Pretty sure that pic shows the Klub in front of a different plane, the 31 is just in the background.

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    Post  flamming_python on Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:25 pm

    Austin wrote:From what it appears Russian are working on ASAT on 3 different fronts.

    1 ) S-500 with ASAT capability for LEO Sats
    2 ) Mig-31D + Incerceptor with ASAT capability for LEO and Polar orbits ( 900 km and higher )
    3 ) Laser A-60 based aircraft with ASAT capability for LEO and Polar orbits.

    I wonder if the A-60 laser is strong enough to take out the optics of satellite at Geostationary orbit i.e 36,000 Km ?

    There was also the 'Naryad' Soviet project for an anti-sat system to replace their old one (the IS).
    It was tested right in 1990 and/or 1991, just before the USSR collapsed.

    I have no idea what the current status of it is. Anyone care to enlighten us?

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    Post  Viktor on Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:53 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Austin wrote:From what it appears Russian are working on ASAT on 3 different fronts.

    1 ) S-500 with ASAT capability for LEO Sats
    2 ) Mig-31D + Incerceptor with ASAT capability for LEO and Polar orbits ( 900 km and higher )
    3 ) Laser A-60 based aircraft with ASAT capability for LEO and Polar orbits.

    I wonder if the A-60 laser is strong enough to take out the optics of satellite at Geostationary orbit i.e 36,000 Km ?

    There was also the 'Naryad' Soviet project for an anti-sat system to replace their old one (the IS).
    It was tested right in 1990 and/or 1991, just before the USSR collapsed.

    I have no idea what the current status of it is. Anyone care to enlighten us?

    I think as of now, no one can say for sure, although I doubt IS-MU/MD project is dead anymore than Nymrad.

    It is likely if no agreement is meet with non-militarization of space that Russia might tests its own version of ASAT and at that point

    we will know what type of ASAT it chose to push with.

    TR1 wrote:Pretty sure that pic shows the Klub in front of a different plane, the 31 is just in the background.

    I know, but that other picture I posted is not. It shows MIG-31 with Yakhont missile.

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    Post  TR1 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:49 pm

    Thats not an actual photo, just a graphic.

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    Post  Viktor on Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:01 pm

    TR1 wrote:Thats not an actual photo, just a graphic.

    I know it is, and Dimi on his blog says it was a most likely proposition made for some export version of MIG-31. And that the thing I was

    mentioning to Garry some time ago. That I sow a MIG-31 in antiship role. When he posted picture of MIG-31 standing by the 3M-14 he reminded

    me on that conversation.

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    Post  TR1 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:48 pm

    Gotcha.

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    Post  GarryB on Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:01 am

    Note that photo I posted of the Klub missile, first of all the missile itself is a mockup and not actually the real thing, and second that photo was taken at an angle to get a better view of the missile and was in front of a Mig-29M2 or Mig-35 and was not related to the Mig-31 in the picture AFAIK.


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    Post  Viktor on Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:54 pm

    @Austin

    To summerise Almaz-Antej 2012 work

    1. Modernized version of S-400 system is being developed

    2. Development of air-defense system which is mix of S-400/Redut/BUK-M3. That could be Vityaz system armed with 9M96 class as S-400 and
    Redut uses it (even BUK-M3 might use it as no other missile can in such numbers (10-12 + missiles) fit those BUK-M3 tubes as showed on
    those new pictures.) Being mix of S-400 and BUK means it could enter PVO and V-PVO.

    3. 97L6 might be some new iteration of 96L6 Lira possibly for new modernized S-400

    4. Work on brigade lvl command post Baikal-1M is at the final stage of testing.

    5. Introduction of mobile and stationary versions of Fundament-M battalion lvl radar command post

    6. Development of brigade lvl Fundament-MA command post to replace existing "Base-M"

    7. Finishing development and introduction of Crimea system for flight control starting 2012

    8. Finishing development and testing of new 9K331M missile for TOR-M2

    9. Finishing testing Antej-2500 on real targets

    10. Something about integration of Shilt-1 on Indian project 11356 and project 17

    11. Finishing development of 3K96 system at project 20380 by the end of 2013 and starting its testing on the project 22350


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    Post  TR1 on Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:23 am

    So, anyone have an updated launcher number for S-400?

    We had 64 launchers mid 2012.
    There have been deliveries since, though it is uncertain of some of the S-400 units are operating S-300PM launchers.
    I guess this is still a big upgrade over PM battery.

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    Post  Viktor on Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:11 am

    TR1 wrote:So, anyone have an updated launcher number for S-400?

    We had 64 launchers mid 2012.

    I think the most modest number would be 80.

    We had 5 regiments delivered ending 2012.

    5 regiments with each having minimum 2 batteries/divisions and each of them having 8 launchers.

    5 regiments x 2 divisions/batteries x 8 launchers = 80 launchers

    Of course, we don`t know if some regiments where delivered with more than two divisions (what was the practice in the beginning)

    If more S-400 divisions are being delivered with each S-400 regiment, we could be speaking on perhaps 100+ launchers.


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    There have been deliveries since, though it is uncertain of some of the S-400 units are operating S-300PM launchers.
    I guess this is still a big upgrade over PM battery.

    Yes, as one S-400 regiment can contain max 8 S-400/S-300xx divisions my guess would be that Russians are mixing older S-300 with S-400

    to increase overall efficiency of older S-300 systems because of newer and more powerful S-400 radar and command post systems that will

    guide them and provide information in comparison with their own.

    On the other hand some 30 divisions of S-300PS/PT is being phased out as S-400 enters service and maybe faster, but at the same time some

    70 S-300PS/PM/PM1 divisions is being modernized to Favorit-S level and those divisions will stay in service well after 2020.

    Than there is S-300V4 system that has received massive improvements since first S-300V appeared and Almaz-Antej got the contract for

    3 S-400V4 brigades by 2016 and 9 brigades by 2020 overall. We are talking here about 650 TELAR + 450 TEL (for 4 battalions per

    regiment) by 2020 with 9M82M missiles now with 350km range Very Happy Very Happy upgraded radar system, completely new command post etc.

    And here is last report about the S-300V4 - now this is the last one only, I had read one before, for until 2012 for another 40 tracked

    chassis for modernized S-300 i.e. S-300V4



    02/13/13 SUN GET TO THE END OF 2014, 40 SELF-PROPELLED TRACKED CHASSIS FOR C-300
    February 13 2013.

    RIA Novosti . Almost fifty propelled tracked chassis for modernized air defense missiles (SAM) C-300 will be the Russian Armed Forces by the end of 2014, told RIA Novosti on Wednesday, a representative of the Press and Information at the Ministry of Defense of the Army (NE) Major Anton Goncharov.

    "In total, the public contract before the end of 2014 in the military units to be delivered 40 self-propelled tracked chassis" - said Goncharov.

    He noted that the Commander NE Col. Gen. Vladimir Chirkin to conclude a working trip to St. Petersburg visited a subsidiary of JSC "Kirov Plant" - plant "Universalmash", which just follow the progress of the company commitment to making mobile tracked chassis retrofit SAM C-300.

    Previously reported that the commander NE during this trip also inspected military Mikhailovsky Artillery Academy, which trains professionals to work on missile complexes "Iskander".
    http://ria.ru/


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    Post  TR1 on Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:12 am

    One thing to think about- S-300V4 will ensure there are many T-80 chassis and power plants still operational in 2020.
    However army wants to phase the T-80 out as they exhaust their resource...hmmm.....

    Got my fingers crossed India makes the smart decision and buys Antei-2500...should have done that a decade ago D:

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    Post  GarryB on Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:36 am

    I rather suspect that if India do go for the Antei-2500 that they might switch the chassis to the standard T-90 chassis instead of the T-80 simply to make logistics simpler.

    By the same token I rather suspect the Russians might actually do the same, though they might use T-72 chassis with T-90 components because they have more to hand.

    Eventually I suspect new build Russian S-300VM4 equivalents will be armata based by 2020, though by then they should be up to S-300V8 or so.

    2. Development of air-defense system which is mix of S-400/Redut/BUK-M3. That could be Vityaz system armed with 9M96 class as S-400 and
    Redut uses it (even BUK-M3 might use it as no other missile can in such numbers (10-12 + missiles) fit those BUK-M3 tubes as showed on
    those new pictures.) Being mix of S-400 and BUK means it could enter PVO and V-PVO.

    The Redut-Poliment system seems to be the Vityaz/Redut missile for the Army and the Navy that will likely replace the shorter range S-300 on land and the Rif-M at sea. AFAIK it was based on the two smaller 9M96 missiles of the S-400 series, though performance will be increased from the systems revealed previously (ie 40km for the smaller missile and 120km for the larger of the two missiles).

    The thing is that the original small missiles were designed to be launched from modified tubes adapted to the older S-300 system, so I expect their design was limited/affected by artificial design constraints. I suspect this new system will be a clean sheet design with its own launchers and systems of much better performance. For instance the old smaller missiles could fit four missiles to an old missile tube, but the missile tubes themselves were not shorter, so the longer missile with the 120km range fit in the same space as the smaller and lighter 40km range missile tube so really apart from cost and weight there was no advantage to using the smaller lighter missiles. I rather suspect that a redesign that either makes them shorter so that two lots of four missiles can be loaded for the same performance or the extra length can be used for an extra booster stage to enhance their range and speed could be applied.

    This would have the biggest impact for the Navy which has limited space on board, whereas a land based battery can simply have another couple of launcher vehicles attached to it, of a Pantsir-S1 unit attached to help against a swarm attack.

    For the Navy with the older Rif-M missiles it can have one large missile per tube, but with the S-400 9M96 missiles it could have four smaller missiles of 40km range or 120km range in each large tube. They can mix up those new missiles, but apart from weight and presumably cost they might as well carry 4 120km range missiles than 4 40km range missiles as the longer range weapons offer better range with the same numbers advantage of four to a tube.

    Perhaps the newer Redut system will either shorten the missile and allow stacking... perhaps the 40km range missiles can be stacked so 8 missiles to a Rif-M tube or the larger missile which is too long to stack could have an extra booster stage added to use the full length of the tube and extend its range to 150-180km perhaps... that way you get the choice of a single S-400 400km range missile, or 4 180km range new missiles, or 8 40km range missiles per original main missile tube. The alternative is a single S-400 400km range missile, or 4 120km range new missiles, or 4 40km range missiles per original main missile tube... unless weight is an issue then why go for 40km range missiles when you can have 120km range missiles?

    I guess we will find out eventually.

    The new BUK missile will not be related to the 9M96, and will most likely be a land based Shtil-1 missile designed for vertical launch tube launch. Having the same missile on land and at sea will greatly reduce costs and improve commonality and allow more missiles to be made without the extra costs of custom designed missiles for each service.

    The tube launched design means no pesky external control surfaces that limit the number of missiles you can carry without the issue of damage during launch.


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    Post  Viktor on Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:18 am

    TR1 wrote:One thing to think about- S-300V4 will ensure there are many T-80 chassis and power plants still operational in 2020.
    However army wants to phase the T-80 out as they exhaust their resource...hmmm.....

    Got my fingers crossed India makes the smart decision and buys Antei-2500...should have done that a decade ago D:

    As it wasn`t interesting enough that Venezuela decided to buy Antei-2500, now is being offered to India and Turkey as well.

    I guess as S-400 wont be exported for few more years and S-300 production has ceased so Russia has decided to cash in with Antei-2500.

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    Post  Sujoy on Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:04 pm

    TR1 wrote:Got my fingers crossed India makes the smart decision and buys Antei-2500...should have done that a decade ago D:

    To bypass regimes like the MTCR India has bought services from Russia as opposed to the end product. For example ICBM technology .

    http://dailypioneer.com/home/online-channel/360-todays-newspaper/11724-with-russian-help-india-to-join-icbm-big-league-soon.html

    Services bought can very easily be concealed . In this case too India had bought sufficient technical expertise from Russia ( and to a limited extent from Israel) to develop the indigenous Prithvi BMD and the AAD 1 & 2 .

    Therefore , unless these home grown projects come a cropper the realistic chances of India purchasing the S 300 V4 or S 400 is pretty slim . That being said there is the possibility that India will eventually purchase a anti ballistic / cruise missile system from overseas just like it did in the case of the MMRCA .

    http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/analysis_indias-ballistic-missile-defence-capability-is-grossly-exaggerated_1527966

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    Post  medo on Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:33 pm

    As I know Almaz-Antey in 2012 got all ordered tracked vehicles for S-300V4 and now they ordered ~40 vehicles more, so maybe next year army will have two brigades of them.

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    Post  AlfaT8 on Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:20 am

    U.S. Navy uses eyes in space to take out a ballistic missile threat target.

    A Raytheon Company (NYSE: RTN) Standard Missile-3 Block IA fired from the USS Lake Erie destroyed a medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM) target using tracking data from a remote Raytheon sensor payload on the Space Tracking and Surveillance System-Demonstrator (STSS-D) satellites.

    “This test further expands our confidence in the SM-3′s ability to engage targets using remote, netted sensor targeting,” said Wes Kremer, Raytheon Missile Systems’ vice president of Air and Missile Defense Systems. “Launching on remote is important because it extends the engagement range of the missile, allowing ships with the SM-3 to expand the battlespace and eliminate threats sooner.”

    The MRBM target was launched from the Pacific Missile Range Facility. As it rose above the horizon, the target was acquired and tracked by STSS-D. Threat data was then relayed through the Command, Control, Battle Management and Communications (C2BMC) system to the ship. The ship’s crew fired the SM-3 based on STSS track data and before the ship’s radar acquired the target.

    “STSS-D’s unique vantage point in space allows the sensor payload to see the threat early in its trajectory and provide launch quality data sooner than nearly any other option,” said Bill Hart, vice president of Space Systems for Raytheon’s Space and Airborne Systems business. “We can give our naval warfighters extra time to analyze and respond, by providing target data before the ship can track the threat. That’s a tremendous advantage.”

    The test proves the “launch on remote” concept, which was first demonstrated during testing in April 2011 when a U.S. Navy destroyer used track data provided by a Raytheon-made AN/TPY-2 radar deployed on Wake Island to engage and destroy an intermediate-range ballistic missile target using an SM-3 Block IA.

    About the Standard Missile-3
    The SM-3 guided missile is designed to destroy incoming short-, medium-, and intermediate-range ballistic missile threats by colliding with them in space, a concept sometimes described as “hitting a bullet with a bullet.” The missile does not contain an explosive warhead, but instead destroys the threats using sheer impact, equivalent to a 10-ton truck traveling at 600 mph.

    More than 135 SM-3s have been delivered to U.S. and Japanese navies ahead of schedule and under cost.
    Raytheon is on track to deliver the next-generation SM-3 Block IB guided missile in 2014.
    SM-3 Block IB guided missile will be deployed in both afloat and ashore weapons systems.
    The test marks the 22nd successful intercept for the SM-3 program.

    About the Space Tracking and Surveillance System-Demonstrator Satellites
    STSS-D is a research and development capability for the Ballistic Missile Defense System that can detect and track ballistic missiles and other cold objects in space. Raytheon sensors used on the payloads were developed under contract to Northrop Grumman, prime contractor for the STSS-D program.

    STSS-D consists of two satellites carrying sensor payloads in a low-Earth orbit.
    The satellites demonstrate the value of space-based sensors to missile defense.
    The STSS-D payloads are able to detect infrared and visible light.

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