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    Russia's international performance in PSYOP

    Post  max steel on Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:12 pm

    Thats why US paid media is doing yellow journalism on China . What i don't understand is why Chinese and Russians don't come up with strong media presence in World . Except RT even russians never had any global english channel .

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    Post  GarryB on Sat May 02, 2015 7:29 am

    Thats why US paid media is doing yellow journalism on China . What i don't understand is why Chinese and Russians don't come up with strong media presence in World . Except RT even russians never had any global english channel .

    Ummm.... didn't you just answer your own question?


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    Post  macedonian on Sat May 02, 2015 9:01 am

    GarryB wrote:
    Thats why US paid media is doing yellow journalism on China . What i don't understand is why Chinese and Russians don't come up with strong media presence in World . Except RT even russians never had any global english channel .

    Ummm.... didn't you just answer your own question?

    Not fully, I'd say.
    Let me clue you in on the media/propaganda situation here in the Balkans...
    There's  Al Jazeera's Balkan channel (operating from Croatia if I'm not mistaken) covering all ex-YU countries and employing journos from all these countries.
    Than there's a CNN Balkan channel (not sure of the name...think it's N1 or something) running a similar show...

    Both these are pushing the western narrative, and both are included in cable packages free of charge (since obviously no one would pay to watch them).

    Than there's BBC Macedonian, BBC Serbian, BBC Croatian (not sure of other BBC services). Some were closed due to budget cuts.
    Let's not forget VOA which also transmits in local languages. And the worse of all - the CIA's media and psyops channel: Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty which is the most active of all pushing the US propaganda drivel. There's also the German DW which is the same as RFE/RL really, but coming from Germany.
    To top it all, there's a plethora of local media financed by the Soros foundation. These are worse than all those mentioned above.
    They are constantly criticizing the Government for not joining in the sanctions against Russia, for joining Turkish Stream, and for taking part in the May 9th parade.

    Now...
    On the Russian side, there's RT transmitting in English. As far as I'm aware they have no Serbian/Bulgarian/Macedonian/Croatian channel.
    They are also part of the free cable package, though strangely enough the channel is often off air (a blank screen appears)...which is NEVER the case with the western media outlets. All said about RT also applies to China's CCTV (also only transmitting in English).

    In local languages there's only Russia Beyond the Headlines (the Macedonian channel is named Руска Реч / Russian Word) but that's just an Internet portal, and it doesn't relay news per se, they offer analysis and report on bilateral events like...Macedonian Scientists to visit the Russian University in Pskov...LOL
    There are NO Russian NGOs similar to Soros' that buy local presstitutes to transmit the other side of the story. None!

    So as you can see, the situation with the media is pretty grim. No wonder people have no clue what's really going on in Ukraine...though this changes with forums (just like this one, but local) where 99% of the people support the Russian side. (I like to think I'm contributing to this effort, since I'm actively pushing the Russian view, and challenging the pro-American posters which are obvious paid trolls. No Russian paid trolls though, just people like me...)

    Sorry for the long answer, but had to explain this fully since it DOES bother me...

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    GarryB do you reckon this subject merits a thread of its own?
    We could call it "Russia vs West Psyops" or something...or "The Reach of Russian vs Western Media"...

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    Post  max steel on Sat May 02, 2015 4:21 pm

    Voice of America VOA transmits in local languages ?

    Wow! What the fcuk an american radio channel doing in europe !

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    Post  Werewolf on Sat May 02, 2015 4:37 pm

    ZDF a state run propaganda of germany has one of its Headquarters in USA, which is a national "news agency" that only can be recieved in germany, austria, switzerland and i think luxembourg. The question is what the heck is one of the headquarters doing in US?

    Found it by accident on google maps when i was searching for something.


    ZDF German Television
    1077 31st St NW
    Washington, DC 20007
    Vereinigte Staaten

    Can someone from US tell me if they are recieving ZDF in german/english because i would probably know about that by now from the hard crticism here in germany against the biased reports from ZDF being all Pro US....

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    Post  GarryB on Sun May 03, 2015 12:20 am

    GarryB do you reckon this subject merits a thread of its own?
    We could call it "Russia vs West Psyops" or something...or "The Reach of Russian vs Western Media"...

    there is a good idea... which section will you put it in?

    So as you can see, the situation with the media is pretty grim. No wonder people have no clue what's really going on in Ukraine...though this changes with forums (just like this one, but local) where 99% of the people support the Russian side. (I like to think I'm contributing to this effort, since I'm actively pushing the Russian view, and challenging the pro-American posters which are obvious paid trolls. No Russian paid trolls though, just people like me...)

    To be honest I am glad there are no equivalents of Soros in Russia... well there is but they tend to buy British soccer teams... Soros and his equivalents don't support democracy and peace and freedom... they support the exact opposite and are doing America harm internationally... they just don't realise it.

    there is RT in spanish and arabic and english... give them time... as they grow they will start catering better to all the other languages of this planet, but you need to have the reporters and the money and resources to do it.

    Wow! What the fcuk an american radio channel doing in europe !

    Post WWII cold war tools to undermine communism in all of eastern europe... now it just tries to undermine democracy in Russia. affraid


    Found it by accident on google maps when i was searching for something.

    Finding target info for you new stealth drone? afro

    Can someone from US tell me if they are recieving ZDF in german/english because i would probably know about that by now from the hard crticism here in germany against the biased reports from ZDF being all Pro US...

    When all your media reports have to be cleared by Washington first it makes sense to have an HQ in Washington... lol!


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    Post  macedonian on Sun May 03, 2015 12:59 am

    GarryB wrote:
    GarryB do you reckon this subject merits a thread of its own?
    We could call it "Russia vs West Psyops" or something...or "The Reach of Russian vs Western Media"...
    there is a good idea... which section will you put it in?

    Can't say for sure...International politics perhaps?

    GarryB wrote:
    So as you can see, the situation with the media is pretty grim. No wonder people have no clue what's really going on in Ukraine...though this changes with forums (just like this one, but local) where 99% of the people support the Russian side. (I like to think I'm contributing to this effort, since I'm actively pushing the Russian view, and challenging the pro-American posters which are obvious paid trolls. No Russian paid trolls though, just people like me...)
    To be honest I am glad there are no equivalents of Soros in Russia... well there is but they tend to buy British soccer teams... Soros and his equivalents don't support democracy and peace and freedom... they support the exact opposite and are doing America harm internationally... they just don't realise it.

    Right...the oligarchs spend billions on footy teams to win hearts and minds IN ENGLAND, but the State of Russia can't spare a few thousand on relaying its point of view on International politics in the Balkans where people share a culture similar (if not same!) to Russian, and speak Slavic languages..."I'm not sure that I agree with you a hundred percent on your policework there, Lou."
    Sorry for borrowing a line from "Fargo" there.

    GarryB wrote:[there is RT in spanish and arabic and english... give them time... as they grow they will start catering better to all the other languages of this planet, but you need to have the reporters and the money and resources to do it.
    I'm sure that as they grow they'll reclaim Alaska, but before transmitting in "first nation" languages, could I bother them to transmit in Slavic languages first??? See, I don't want them to pay too much time, effort and money translating stuff! Sorry about the irony, but is it the US' media priority to cover Venezuelan or Canadian space? Are the majority of pro-Russians from the Balkans, or from South America and the Middle East?
    No, I think my point still stands - Russia isn't doing all it should. Not at all.

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    Post  GarryB on Wed May 13, 2015 8:58 am

    Right...the oligarchs spend billions on footy teams to win hearts and minds IN ENGLAND,

    But that is the point... they have no agenda or ideology to push... those oligarchs buy soccer teams because they can afford it... They could care less about how the British public sees or perceives Russia.... it simply isn't their problem.

    Russia itself has lots of things on its mind... spreading peace and democracy is not at the top of the list.... they have other problems to deal with first.

    but the State of Russia can't spare a few thousand on relaying its point of view on International politics in the Balkans where people share a culture similar (if not same!) to Russian, and speak Slavic languages..

    Maybe it feels if it can sway western opinion bit by bit then it wont need to do it everywhere... the problem for Russia is not lack of support in the Balkans... it is lack of support or at least understanding in the west.

    No, I think my point still stands - Russia isn't doing all it should. Not at all.

    Hang on... why does Russia have to do this... Isn't Serbia or Croatia or Albania for that matter interested in the aspects the western media ignore?

    And if they aren't then what is the point?

    Can't you spot the pattern... Putin didn't intervene in Scotland... and despite western claims he has done rather little in the Ukraine... he probably did something regarding the Crimea but nothing like anything the US has done repeatedly in lots of places around the world in such circumstances.

    He didn't send troops to any of the 'stans when they were having problems either... he did intervene in South Ossetia after Russian Peacekeepers were attacked... Are you sensing a pattern?


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