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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon May 04, 2015 6:20 pm

    Strapping on more guns should not be a problem. This is just series 1 stuff...
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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  flamming_python on Mon May 04, 2015 6:26 pm

    That hole in the left side of the Armata MBT does look pretty incriminating.

    As in screaming - 'im just dyin for an autocannon here!'

    The exciting thing is that it seems to be a modular add-on. So perhaps an autocannon could be attached, or a gatling gun, array of RPO missiles, MANPAD fitting, or whatever else might be called for.
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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  Stealthflanker on Mon May 04, 2015 6:28 pm

    ebobat wrote:

    What's that large hole ? Emplacement for autocannon ?
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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  collegeboy16 on Mon May 04, 2015 6:32 pm

    my god, i was gonna go to sleep but i just had to check for updates. oh well. <grabs tissues>

    >is the turret solid- as in that faceting isnt sheet metal?
    >where did the smoke GL go?

    yeah, i think so too that the hole in the left side is for slotting a mount with either a 30mm or 57/40mm GL.

    and the faceting- they really went gaga on the stealth measures. maybe the turret superstructure's outer layer is RAM?</wildspeculation>


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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  Flyboy77 on Mon May 04, 2015 6:39 pm

    I'm interested to know what is the hole on the left side of the turret is? Is that some type of the optic that covered with armour?

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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  ebobat on Mon May 04, 2015 6:41 pm

    collegeboy16 wrote:>where did the smoke GL go?
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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  Werewolf on Mon May 04, 2015 6:44 pm

    Flyboy77 wrote:I'm interested to know what is the hole on the left side of the turret is? Is that some type of the optic that covered with armour?

    Probably thermal exhaust port where you have to fire a space torpedo to destruct it.
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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  collegeboy16 on Mon May 04, 2015 6:44 pm

    Flyboy77 wrote:I'm interested to know what is the hole on the left side of the turret is? Is that some type of the optic that covered with armour?
    the hole nearest to the gun is prolly the gunner's sight- the one at the side is prolly for aux. weaponry.
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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon May 04, 2015 6:48 pm

    ebobat wrote:

    Good first post, just remember to introduce yourself in the 'New Member Introduction' forum.
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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon May 04, 2015 6:54 pm

    flamming_python wrote:That hole in the left side of the Armata MBT does look pretty incriminating.

    As in screaming - 'im just dyin for an autocannon here!'

    The exciting thing is that it seems to be a modular add-on. So perhaps an autocannon could be attached, or a gatling gun, array of RPO missiles, MANPAD fitting, or whatever else might be called for.

    Agreed, it has "plug & play" written all over it.

    Remember when these things first showed up? None of them had side armor (APCs also). And now they all do.
    I have a feeling same will be for guns.


    EDIT: That might explain early public "premiere". Not all parts are there yet. Cool


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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  Neutrality on Mon May 04, 2015 6:55 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:That hole in the left side of the Armata MBT does look pretty incriminating.

    As in screaming - 'im just dyin for an autocannon here!'

    The exciting thing is that it seems to be a modular add-on. So perhaps an autocannon could be attached, or a gatling gun, array of RPO missiles, MANPAD fitting, or whatever else might be called for.

    Agreed, it has "plug & play" written all over it.

    Remember when these things first showed up? None of them had side armor (APCs also). And now they all do.
    I have a feeling same will be for guns.

    They might install them on V-Day for the parade itself. That would awesome.
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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  archangelski on Mon May 04, 2015 7:07 pm

    Left side of Armata turret, closer : http://cs543105.vk.me/v543105239/27a8/tPeimpUDkT8.jpg
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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  Werewolf on Mon May 04, 2015 7:09 pm




    The side gap is appearantly for a hatch so one of the crew can take them while another is handing them over so they reload the carousel.
    A design from previous testbeds projects...



    This little triangular hatch between those two gaps for (Radar/TIS) and the ammunition refilling hatch is probably the hatch for addiotnal weaponary which projects right to the frontal sphere.

    EDIT: Btw both sides have this little triangular mounting, i am dead certain it is for weaponary.
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    Post  Khepesh on Mon May 04, 2015 7:14 pm

    Another view. Looks like the OPVT under the rear of the stowage cassette. I presume also mounting brackets for the fuel drums, or maybe the log, how can there be a tank without a log...
    Now the canvas is off it raises even more questions...
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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon May 04, 2015 7:31 pm



    The turret screams add on armour...Everywhere. That is one hell of a tank.

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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  sepheronx on Mon May 04, 2015 7:36 pm

    i recall the picture of the model has 30mm cannons on the sides of it. Could this possibly be mounts for such weapon?
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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  Werewolf on Mon May 04, 2015 7:36 pm

    My opinion/question/suggestion


    The problem i see or what i think so far, is that what i believe to be weapon attachment points have no elevation possible unless they have some extention mounting for them.

    I hope we will get a picture from above to see if it has APS tubes sunk into the turret since someone said they were "reloadable".

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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  Dima on Mon May 04, 2015 7:40 pm

    flamming_python wrote:That hole in the left side of the Armata MBT does look pretty incriminating.

    As in screaming - 'im just dyin for an autocannon here!'

    The exciting thing is that it seems to be a modular add-on. So perhaps an autocannon could be attached, or a gatling gun, array of RPO missiles, MANPAD fitting, or whatever else might be called for.
    Yes agree. So we wont be seeing it full untill May 9.
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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  Werewolf on Mon May 04, 2015 7:57 pm

    I find that huge gap on left side of the gun which is most probably for gunner sights, really scary, the entire turret screams for an upgrading with ERA and moving the Targeting sights away from there.
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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  Zivo on Mon May 04, 2015 8:17 pm

    It has rear facing AESA's, and no rear facing APS launchers.

    I'm guessing they'll add some under the bustle? dunno


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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  Werewolf on Mon May 04, 2015 8:19 pm

    Zivo wrote:It has rear facing AESA's, and no rear facing APS launchers.

    I'm guessing they're add some under the bustle? dunno

    I think the little tube next to the rear facing AESA is the APS launcher for rear projection maybe even top attack weapon from the angle of AESA and tube... if it is AESA and APS tube, but what else what that be?
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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  Zivo on Mon May 04, 2015 8:25 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    Zivo wrote:It has rear facing AESA's, and no rear facing APS launchers.

    I'm guessing they're add some under the bustle? dunno

    I think the little tube next to the rear facing AESA is the APS launcher for rear projection maybe even top attack weapon from the angle of AESA and tube... if it is AESA and APS tube, but what else what that be?



    It looks to me like there's four radars each covering 90 degrees. Like Trophy.

    Notice that even the rearmost APS tube isn't perpendicular. That huge gap under the bustle is screaming for rear coverage APS like what burlak had.
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    Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

    Post  mack8 on Mon May 04, 2015 8:32 pm

    Best pics yet from bastion-karpenko:
    http://bastion-karpenko.ru/new-tehnik-parad-150504/


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