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    Post  George1 on Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:16 am

    Soviet Spetsnaz GRU, Somewhere in Africa, possibly Angola or Mozambique

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    Post  archangelski on Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:21 pm

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    Post  AlfaT8 on Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:26 pm

    Ok guys, this has been bothering me for a while.

    The PT-76


    Why the heck did this platform use a 76mm gun, especially given the fact that Russia was well aware of the limits of 76mm since WW2 and had already moved to 85mm on the T-34.
    So why after WW2 did they make such a thing and even after never created a 85mm variant??

    It's all so very strange. scratch scratch

    Update: There are some mentions of a PT-85 during the Invasion of Czechoslovakia, but there isn't much info about it.


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    Post  archangelski on Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:43 pm

    The PT-76 was a lightly armored reconnaissance tank. It's D-56T 76 mm gun was considered adequate for this role at the time. The gun was able to penetrate 280mm of armour at 1000m with a HEAT round. And a derivative, with the D-58 85mm gun (Objekt 960/PT-85) was considered and built in prototype form...but rejected :

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    Post  AlfaT8 on Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:24 pm

    archangelski wrote:The PT-76 was a lightly armored reconnaissance tank. It's D-56T 76 mm gun was considered adequate for this role at the time. The gun was able to penetrate 280mm of armour at 1000m with a HEAT round. And a derivative, with the D-58 85mm gun (Objekt 960/PT-85) was considered and built in prototype form...but rejected

    So the gun fulfilled the job.
    Any idea why why the PT-85 was rejected?
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:56 am

    The Chinese introduced a PT-85 type vehicle... apart from less ready to use ammo it really was not that much different.

    Pretty much anything that could shrug off a 76.2mm shell wasn't generally bothered by an 85mm... in other words most armoured vehicles that are not tanks could be defeated by either round, but a target that could stop a 76.2mm round generally was a MBT so the 85mm wasn't going to do much better...
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    Post  archangelski on Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:23 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    archangelski wrote:The PT-76 was a lightly armored reconnaissance tank. It's D-56T 76 mm gun was considered adequate for this role at the time. The gun was able to penetrate 280mm of armour at 1000m with a HEAT round. And a derivative, with the D-58 85mm gun (Objekt 960/PT-85) was considered and built in prototype form...but rejected

    So the gun fulfilled the job.
    Any idea why why the PT-85 was rejected?

    First prototype of the Objekt 906 comed out in 1962. It was tested in real conditions at the beginning of 1963 and performed well but, at the very same moment, soviet army were focussed on a promissive project which will become the BMP-1. With the same level of armour, it was able to fullfil the light tank and reconnaissance roles with better general performances. But it's an other story...
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    Post  archangelski on Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:29 pm

    One of the PT-85 prototype (Park Patriot) : http://www.vitalykuzmin.net/Military/Park-Patriot-Tanks/i-MM28mZZ/
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    Post  George1 on Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:04 pm

    Museum of Soviet Military History

    http://www.vitalykuzmin.net/Military/Museum-of-Russian-Military-History/i-mJ2VB4f
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    Post  archangelski on Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:34 am

    George1 wrote:Museum of Soviet Military History

    http://www.vitalykuzmin.net/Military/Museum-of-Russian-Military-History/i-mJ2VB4f

    Vitaly is, and has always been since I follow his publications, an excellent source of photographs of Soviet or Russian material from all periods ...
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