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    Post  archangelski on Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:15 pm

    Su-9 :

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    Post  archangelski on Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:59 pm

    Ka-15 :

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    Post  starman on Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:30 pm

    How did the SU-9 differ from the SU-7 and SU-20?

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    Post  Svyatoslavich on Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:24 am

    starman wrote:How did the SU-9 differ from the SU-7 and SU-20?
    Completely unrelated designs. The Su-7 was an attack plane with swept wings, which was later developed into the Su-17/Su-20/Su-22 family with variable geometry. The Su-9 was an interceptor with delta wings, which was later developed into the Su-11 and finally the much bigger Su-15.
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    Post  archangelski on Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:26 pm

    Mi-4 :

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    Post  archangelski on Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:11 am

    Ka-22 :

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    Post  KiloGolf on Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:01 pm

    blast from the past

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    Post  KiloGolf on Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:29 pm

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    Post  archangelski on Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:30 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:

    Only a traitor to his homeland but fortunately he died in 2001...killed in a Soviet plane.
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    Post  KiloGolf on Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:48 pm

    archangelski wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:

    Only a traitor to his homeland but fortunately he died in 2001...killed in a Soviet plane.

    Do we known which MiG-29 did he fly to Turkey? MiG-29A or -S?
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    Post  archangelski on Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:06 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:Do we known which MiG-29 did he fly to Turkey? MiG-29A or -S?

    MiG-29A :



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    Post  KiloGolf on Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:31 pm

    archangelski wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:Do we known which MiG-29 did he fly to Turkey? MiG-29A or -S?

    MiG-29A :


    So the same type the US would gain access anyway via Germany in the same year.
    No big loss for Russia. But yeah, such moves irrespective of how one can hate communism, are d!ck moves.

    I think he got offered some good cash for this.
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    Post  archangelski on Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:36 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:So the same type the US would gain access anyway via Germany in the same year.
    No big loss for Russia. But yeah, such moves irrespective of how one can hate communism, are d!ck moves.

    I think he got offered some good cash for this.

    The MiG-29A (9.12, bort 44 blue -  c/n 2960516503) was returned to the Soviet Union only a day later.  The MiG-29 took off at 4.30 p.m. from Trabzon airport on the Black Sea, and was escorted by Turkish air force jets to Soviet air space.
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    Post  George1 on Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:16 am

    Soviet Spetsnaz GRU, Somewhere in Africa, possibly Angola or Mozambique



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    Post  archangelski on Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:21 pm

    Alouette III test :

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    Post  AlfaT8 on Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:26 pm

    Ok guys, this has been bothering me for a while.

    The PT-76


    Why the heck did this platform use a 76mm gun, especially given the fact that Russia was well aware of the limits of 76mm since WW2 and had already moved to 85mm on the T-34.
    So why after WW2 did they make such a thing and even after never created a 85mm variant??

    It's all so very strange. scratch scratch

    Update: There are some mentions of a PT-85 during the Invasion of Czechoslovakia, but there isn't much info about it.


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    Post  archangelski on Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:43 pm

    The PT-76 was a lightly armored reconnaissance tank. It's D-56T 76 mm gun was considered adequate for this role at the time. The gun was able to penetrate 280mm of armour at 1000m with a HEAT round. And a derivative, with the D-58 85mm gun (Objekt 960/PT-85) was considered and built in prototype form...but rejected :

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    Post  AlfaT8 on Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:24 pm

    archangelski wrote:The PT-76 was a lightly armored reconnaissance tank. It's D-56T 76 mm gun was considered adequate for this role at the time. The gun was able to penetrate 280mm of armour at 1000m with a HEAT round. And a derivative, with the D-58 85mm gun (Objekt 960/PT-85) was considered and built in prototype form...but rejected

    So the gun fulfilled the job.
    Any idea why why the PT-85 was rejected?
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:56 am

    The Chinese introduced a PT-85 type vehicle... apart from less ready to use ammo it really was not that much different.

    Pretty much anything that could shrug off a 76.2mm shell wasn't generally bothered by an 85mm... in other words most armoured vehicles that are not tanks could be defeated by either round, but a target that could stop a 76.2mm round generally was a MBT so the 85mm wasn't going to do much better...


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    Post  archangelski on Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:23 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    archangelski wrote:The PT-76 was a lightly armored reconnaissance tank. It's D-56T 76 mm gun was considered adequate for this role at the time. The gun was able to penetrate 280mm of armour at 1000m with a HEAT round. And a derivative, with the D-58 85mm gun (Objekt 960/PT-85) was considered and built in prototype form...but rejected

    So the gun fulfilled the job.
    Any idea why why the PT-85 was rejected?

    First prototype of the Objekt 906 comed out in 1962. It was tested in real conditions at the beginning of 1963 and performed well but, at the very same moment, soviet army were focussed on a promissive project which will become the BMP-1. With the same level of armour, it was able to fullfil the light tank and reconnaissance roles with better general performances. But it's an other story...

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