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    Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  Viktor on Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:46 pm

    Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  no more Mr. nice guy  cheers


    "Gazprom" has threatened to cut off supplies enemies "of the Turkish stream"

    "Gazprom" has threatened termination of deliveries enemies gas pipeline "South" and "Turkish Stream", which seek to preserve the transit through Ukraine.

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  Viktor on Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:44 pm

    Well, here we go again  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing

    Turkish Stream May Run Through Greece, Macedonia, Serbia, Hungary – Novak

    Russia->Turkey->Greece->Macedonia->Serbia->Hungary Laughing Laughing thumbsup sniper


    No Bulgaria or Romania ... Very Happy (see the post above). And another thing - I think we all remember that under US pressure Bulgaria decided to drop Russian offer for NPP construction

    and US Westinghouse was supposed to build it well Very Happy Westinghouse drop the deal (because it has no money and Bulgaria has no money) so it seems that Bulgaria was screwed by the US

    BIG TIME .... no gas and no nuclear energy and no transit income - no nothing. Well played.

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  flamming_python on Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:29 pm

    Viktor wrote:Well, here we go again  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing

    Turkish Stream May Run Through Greece, Macedonia, Serbia, Hungary – Novak

    Russia->Turkey->Greece->Macedonia->Serbia->Hungary Laughing Laughing thumbsup sniper


    No Bulgaria or Romania ... Very Happy (see the post above). And another thing - I think we all remember that under US pressure Bulgaria decided to drop Russian offer for NPP construction

    and US Westinghouse was supposed to build it well  Very Happy  Westinghouse drop the deal (because it has no money and Bulgaria has no money) so it seems that Bulgaria was screwed by the US

    BIG TIME .... no gas and no nuclear energy and no transit income - no nothing. Well played.

    Don't forget no oil and oil transit; the Bulgarian government managed to cut its own country out of the Burgas-Alexandroupoli pipeline too.

    Bulgaria has proved a most unreliable partner for Russia unfortunately. Like Putin said - let them make their claims in the EU courts for compensation, if they wish.

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  George1 on Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:46 pm

    i dont think that Greece will participate on this at the end

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  flamming_python on Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:34 pm

    George1 wrote:i dont think that Greece will participate on this at the end
    Quite possibly. Greece under its new government is trying to make quite a show over its independence.
    But in reality even Syriza knows on which side their bread is buttered - all they really care about is securing a more advantageous position for their debt pay-offs.

    And when it comes to those negotiations - everything will be up for bargain; their ties with Russia, Turk Stream.. everything.

    Still, they're a better bet than Bulgaria or Romania - the only other alternatives.

    Russia has only a short window of opportunity during Greece's current estrangement with Germany - to solidify its influence and support amongst the elites there. If it doesn't, that flashy, young new Greek PM is going to screw it.

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  kvs on Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:44 am

    Miller's statement is a warning and a notice. If the EU will not have its end of the pipeline ready by 2019 (actually 2017
    since Turkish Stream is planned to be completed by the end of next year) then it will have to live without Russian gas.

    I don't think that the Brussels idiocrats have realized what is involved here. They think they can pressure Russia to
    keep shipping through Banderastan. These retards are in for the shock of their lives.

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  Viktor on Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:59 am

    Nicely played ... Very Happy

    Greeks will get 5 bin $ in advance for the construction of the Turkey stream.

    link

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  Viktor on Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:56 pm

    Russia is done playing games with Eu fags thumbsup

    Gazprom threatens to stop gas supplies to Europe

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  Viktor on Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:37 pm

    Nice thumbsup

    Lafazanis: Russia and Greece will soon sign an agreement on gas pipeline

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  George1 on Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:16 am

    Gazprom ready to build pipeline from Turkish Stream through Greece as part of consortium

    ATHENS, April 21. /TASS /. Gazprom is confident it is able to raise €2 bln for the Russian-European consortium to build the onshore gas pipeline downstream of the Turkish Stream pipeline, Gazprom’s Chief Executive Officer Alexey Miller said on Tuesday.

    "There is no doubt the Russian-European consortium will be able to raise the required funds to construct the gas pipeline - €2 bln," Miller said.

    "Certain European companies show interest in the project," he added.

    "The project will be implemented in strict compliance with European laws," head of Gazprom said.

    TASS reported earlier Gazprom guarantees up to 47 bln cubic meters of natural gas will be supplied by transit over the territory of Greece after construction of the gas pipeline downstream of the Greek-Turkish border, Gazprom’s Chief Executive Officer Alexei Miller said on Tuesday after talks with Prime Minister of Greece Alexis Tsipras.

    Such transit volumes will definitely make possible for the Greek party to raise commercial loans for implementation of other projects, Miller said.

    "The government of Greece will support the project of creating new gas transport facilities downstream of the border with Turkey," Gazprom’s CEO said. "The project can be implemented by a Russian-European consortium and European companies showing their interest to participate already appear," he added.

    "The project will be implemented according to European laws," Miller said. "This never was a problem for the Russian side," he added.

    The Turkish Stream pipeline will become an alternative to the South Stream project Russia abandoned last year. Most of the offshore section of the new pipeline will be the same as in the abandoned South Stream project.

    On December 1st, 2014, Gazprom and Turkey’s Botas signed a memorandum of understanding on constructing an offshore gas pipeline across the Black Sea towards Turkey. The pipeline capacity will be 63 bln cubic meters. Of this volume about 50 bln cubic meters will be delivered to the new gas hub on the Greek-Turkish border. Gazprom’s subsidiary Gazprom Russkaya is in charge for the pipeline’s construction.

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  Viktor on Fri May 08, 2015 9:41 pm

    Nice thumbsup

    Started laying the offshore section of the Turkish stream

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  Viktor on Fri May 08, 2015 10:14 pm

    Nice thumbsup

    Greece does not intend to abandon "the Turkish stream"

    Greece does not intend to abandon the construction of the branch "Turkish flow" in the country. This Greek minister of industrial reform, environmental protection and energy Panagiotis Lafazanis said Friday after meeting with the special envoy of the US State Department and coordinator for international energy relations Amos Hochsteynom.

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  kvs on Sat May 09, 2015 5:06 pm

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-09/us-tells-greece-reject-putin-pipeline-marking-return-cold-war-politics

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/09/business/international/greece-us-russia-energy-pipeline.html?_r=1

    The United States, wading into the international efforts to shape Greece’s economic and geopolitical orientation, is pushing the leftist government in Athens to resist Russia’s energy overtures.

    A State Department envoy in Athens urged Greece on Friday to embrace a Western-backed project that would link Europe to natural gas supplies in Azerbaijan, rather than agree to a gas pipeline project pushed by Moscow.

    The US is terrorizing Greece into not connecting to Turk Stream.

    If Greece bends to this blackmail, then the EU will be looking for around 100 billion cubic meters per year of gas elsewhere in 2017.

    The US is using Azerbaijan as some sort of excuse to replace Russia:

    http://www.naturalgaseurope.com/viability-nabucco-west-revival-26549

    Azerbaijan will only have 25 bcm/year of export capacity in 2020 if everything goes according to plan.

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  max steel on Sat May 09, 2015 6:18 pm

    I was reading that zerohedge article only . Very Happy

    US courting greece for Azerbaijan South -coridor pipeline instead of Turk stream . It's a bad step for Greece not US . Moreover , I've discussed in detail over the feasibility of both projects and Azerbaijan resources are only 10% of Russia's tapped resources .

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  zepia on Tue May 12, 2015 4:28 pm

    Chaos come right on schedule.  No

    I can't post a link because new member rule. But isn't hard to find it on sputnik site though.


    NATO Uses Clashes in Macedonia to Undermine Russia's Gas Pipeline Project


    Ethnic Albanians involved in recent violent clashes in the northern Macedonian city of Kumanovo
    were used by Washington to threaten construction plans for Russia's Turkish Stream gas pipeline, a Serbian political scientist claimed.


    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — On May 9, Macedonia witnessed violent clashes between police and an armed group in Kumanovo,
    a city bordering Serbia and Kosovo, which claimed the lives of eight Macedonian security officers and 14 gunmen.

    According to the Macedonian Interior Ministry, the group was led by five former members of the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA).

    "Albanians are used to hinder [the implementation of] the Turkish Stream [project]
    and as a US method of putting pressure on Europe by fomenting a new conflict in the Balkans,"
    Dusan Prorokovic told Sputnik Tuesday.


    According to Prorokovic, renewed Albanian insurgency in Kumanovo is likely to be orchestrated by the United States
    and its NATO allies to derail Moscow's pipeline plans.

    The new pipeline is expected to pass through Turkey to a gas hub on the Turkish-Greek border
    for further distribution to consumers in southern Europe.

    Kumanovo was an epicenter of fighting between Albanian rebels, who originated from Kosovo, and government forces in 2001.

    In April, a group of some 40 gunmen, reportedly linked to the KLA, took over a police station in the northern Macedonian village of Gosince.
    The armed men called for the establishment of an Albanian state.

    About a quarter of Macedonia's two-million population is made up of ethnic Albanians.
    Relations between Macedonians and the Albanian minority soured after the government suppressed Albanian insurgency in Tetovo,
    near the border with Kosovo in 2001.

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  flamming_python on Tue May 12, 2015 5:11 pm

    If that's the case than the Americans are simply shooting the Europeans in the foot.

    Russia has made it clear that it's going to stop gas transit through the Ukraine by 2019 and has no intention of renewing the contract.

    It has also cancelled South Stream over EU wrangling and pressure tactics, and made it pretty clear that the only pipeline it's interested in building is a new one to Turkey - and how Europe gets its gas from the Turkish hub is their problem.

    Later, after a few meetings with Hungarian, Serbian, Greek representitives, it decided to give the whole idea another shot and continue on the Turk Stream pipeline to Greece and then north through Macedonia, Serbia and Hungary.
    However the Kremlin holds no fools; everyone understands what sort of leverage the West holds over Greece and Macedonia thus they are prepared for the eventuality that the whole project will be derailed again, in which case I assume they will just go back to their original idea of building a pipeline to Turkey and leaving it at that.

    At the same time, Russia is also actively expanding its gas ties to Asia and has accelerated the process - it is completely serious about stopping the export of gas through the Ukraine.

    Worst comes to worst, it's preparing to forget about gas exports to Europe (except through Belarus/Poland and Nord Stream), and just sell to Asia instead.

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  GarryB on Wed May 13, 2015 3:23 am

    A better question might be... Is the US shooting the EU in the foot or in the head...


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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  Werewolf on Wed May 13, 2015 9:31 am

    GarryB wrote:A better question might be... Is the US shooting the EU in the foot or in the head...

    Hard to kill something that does not have a brain...so headshots are waste of bullets or the shooter ist just retarded, maybe even both.

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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed May 13, 2015 11:30 am

    GarryB wrote:A better question might be... Is the US shooting the EU in the foot or in the head...

    Same question here.

    I guess Europeans have to shake some mental hurdles and see the world for what it is.

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  sepheronx on Mon May 18, 2015 3:18 am

    Between the "Turkish Stream" and Armenian genocide: Turkey's double game

    Russia will have to be careful. One Turkish politician said that Crimean Tatars were being treated well and what not, then another a couple days later says there are human rights abuses but mentions nothing. Then condemns Russia's taking of Crimea.

    I think Russia should be careful in dealing with Turkey. Turkey is not to be trusted it seems.

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  kvs on Mon May 18, 2015 4:16 am

    sepheronx wrote:Between the "Turkish Stream" and Armenian genocide: Turkey's double game

    Russia will have to be careful.  One Turkish politician said that Crimean Tatars were being treated well and what not, then another a couple days later says there are human rights abuses but mentions nothing.  Then condemns Russia's taking of Crimea.

    I think Russia should be careful in dealing with Turkey.  Turkey is not to be trusted it seems.

    The best solution is just to restrict gas shipments to the EU via Nord Stream and let the EU find the rest by itself.
    Russia would lost about $28 billion per year until the pipelines to China are built. But it would actually be less since
    there is already a pipeline to the Pacific coast.

    All the grotesque games by the US, EU and NATO-member Turkey are not worth Russia's time and money. They
    can all go and eat cake.

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  sepheronx on Mon May 18, 2015 6:54 am

    kvs wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Between the "Turkish Stream" and Armenian genocide: Turkey's double game

    Russia will have to be careful.  One Turkish politician said that Crimean Tatars were being treated well and what not, then another a couple days later says there are human rights abuses but mentions nothing.  Then condemns Russia's taking of Crimea.

    I think Russia should be careful in dealing with Turkey.  Turkey is not to be trusted it seems.

    The best solution is just to restrict gas shipments to the EU via Nord Stream and let the EU find the rest by itself.
    Russia would lost about $28 billion per year until the pipelines to China are built.   But it would actually be less since
    there is already a pipeline to the Pacific coast.  

    All the grotesque games by the US, EU and NATO-member Turkey are not worth Russia's time and money.   They
    can all go and eat cake.

    that is what I am thinking. If they lose a couple of billion a year, then who cares. Only those who will benefit the most are big time players in Russia anyway. Turkey is playing a dumb game and if they continue, Russia should tell them to take a hike, they can continue their gas shipment from Turkmenistan.

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  higurashihougi on Tue May 19, 2015 4:18 pm

    Turkish Stream and the threat of Maidan Makedionia version

    http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150515/1022169894.html

    http://sputniknews.com/analysis/20150512/1022040072.html

    http://geopolitics.co/2015/05/14/nato-sabotaging-russias-turkish-stream-through-macedonia/

    Good news is that, counter-Maidan Makedonians also arrived timely, and they won't surrender.

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue May 19, 2015 6:01 pm

    kvs wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Between the "Turkish Stream" and Armenian genocide: Turkey's double game

    Russia will have to be careful.  One Turkish politician said that Crimean Tatars were being treated well and what not, then another a couple days later says there are human rights abuses but mentions nothing.  Then condemns Russia's taking of Crimea.

    I think Russia should be careful in dealing with Turkey.  Turkey is not to be trusted it seems.

    The best solution is just to restrict gas shipments to the EU via Nord Stream and let the EU find the rest by itself.
    Russia would lost about $28 billion per year until the pipelines to China are built.   But it would actually be less since
    there is already a pipeline to the Pacific coast.  

    All the grotesque games by the US, EU and NATO-member Turkey are not worth Russia's time and money.   They
    can all go and eat cake.

    That's not thinking. If you cut now, the EU WILL try and find alternatives...while staying put and selling (cheaper) gas makes the EU think twice about you know what. The game is that the pusher will cut the supply when the addict will be the most fragile, and the EU currently isn't.

    If you think the European Businesses are happy that the Political wing is dealing with a state like Ukraine, you are dead wrong. They can't wait to drop the whole gas saga and bury it.

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    Re: Turkish Stream pipeline: News

    Post  kvs on Wed May 20, 2015 1:30 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Between the "Turkish Stream" and Armenian genocide: Turkey's double game

    Russia will have to be careful.  One Turkish politician said that Crimean Tatars were being treated well and what not, then another a couple days later says there are human rights abuses but mentions nothing.  Then condemns Russia's taking of Crimea.

    I think Russia should be careful in dealing with Turkey.  Turkey is not to be trusted it seems.

    The best solution is just to restrict gas shipments to the EU via Nord Stream and let the EU find the rest by itself.
    Russia would lost about $28 billion per year until the pipelines to China are built.   But it would actually be less since
    there is already a pipeline to the Pacific coast.  

    All the grotesque games by the US, EU and NATO-member Turkey are not worth Russia's time and money.   They
    can all go and eat cake.

    That's not thinking. If you cut now, the EU WILL try and find alternatives...while staying put and selling (cheaper) gas makes the EU think twice about you know what. The game is that the pusher will cut the supply when the addict will be the most fragile, and the EU currently isn't.

    If you think the European Businesses are happy that the Political wing is dealing with a state like Ukraine, you are dead wrong. They can't wait to drop the whole gas saga and bury it.

    We are going to have to disagree. In the long run the natural gas supply is shrinking. So Russia needs to worry about
    itself. The other problem is that keeping these virulent, dangerous leeches dependent is not a good idea. Kicking them
    when they are down is plain bad policy. Russia should wean the EU off its gas supply. This removes the sore point
    afflicting the EU collective brain, and prepares for the time when the supply situation becomes much worse. I can see
    the EU going to war in the future on the false belief that Russia is "withholding" gas from it. So it is much better if the
    EU finds alternative suppliers, and pays through the nose today.

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