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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  flamming_python on Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:15 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    medo wrote:
    higurashihougi wrote:Monsanto won't like it, heh heh.

    http://www.rt.com/politics/315844-government-decides-to-ban-gmo/

    Govt decides to ban GMO food production in Russia – deputy PM

    A senior Russian government member told reporters the cabinet decided that any food production in the country will completely exclude any genetically-modified organisms or parts thereof.

    “As far as genetically-modified organisms are concerned, we have made decision not to use any GMO in food productions,” Deputy PM Arkady Dvorkovich said at an international conference on biotechnology in the Russian city of Kirov.

    At the same time the official emphasized that there was a very clear line between this decision and the development of science, medicine and some other branches.

    “This is not a simple issue, we must do very thorough work on division on these spheres and form a legal base on this foundation,” he said.

    This is excellent decision. Russia will be able to sell their food for higher prices, because it is not GMO, but natural. Russia have a lot of space to produce more food and sell it around the World. Even US and EU will buy it to have healthy and natural food.


    Here is the funny thing:

    Idea behind GMO crops is to create plants that have high yield are resistant to disease and are capable of surviving and thriving in poor quality soil and with low amount of water.
    These GMO crops have not been invented at all!!! They simply do not exist.

    What Monsanto and other vultures and snake-oil salesmen have done is that they tried  to create real functional GMO crops and have failed miserably.

    Instead they created frankensteinian abominations which have slightly higher yield but whose immune system has been completely compromised as a side effect of genetic manipulation.

    These plants require enormous amount of pesticides and other chemicals just to keep them alive. They have created botanical equivalent of human in terminal stage of AIDS.

    And guess who sells these chemicals and pesticides? That is right, Monsanto. They make their money of chemicals not GMO seeds.  

    And once farmers start using these chemicals they render farmland toxic for normal plants, only GMOs can survive afterwards.

    Basically it is the ultimate extortion racket. They claim to sell things that do not exists and are making a killing by selling poison and turning farmers into an equivalent of drug addicts!!!


    I personally look forward to the day when Real GMO crops are invented. They will create agricultural revolution in places like Mexico, Africa, Australia and other desolate regions. One day these Real GMO crops will enable mankind to grow food on Mars and other planets. It will be amazing scientific accomplishment when it happens.thumbsup


    Russia has plenty of quality soil and would not need GMO crops even when Real GMO crops are invented one day. They have hit the jackpot when it comes to agriculture.russia

    Sounds like some conspiracy theory.

    Like all conspiracy theories it falls apart under closer inspection.

    Question - why would farmers plant such crops, if they calculate that the extra expense in chemicals/pesticides will outweigh any extra yield that they might get?

    Because they are ignorant? I think that farmers know their trade well enough.

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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:16 pm

    If you think so, you then need to read up on Argentina's experience.

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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  flamming_python on Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:19 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:Russia has good soil but it does not have good climate. The winter is long and cold. Amount of rain is not extremely high.

    Russian climate is good for cultivating wheat. Not too much rain enable Russia to manufacture the super super high grade white grain which is exported to France.

    But it is not 100% suitable for things like vegetables, fruit trees, milk cow, due to f**king cold winter. Russia used to import fruits from Europe.

    The issue here is that, Europe is not the only one can produce fruit. Russia's allies, like China, North Korea, Brasil. They have what Russia needs.

    Another reason for Russia to turn East.

    Just my 2 cent. pwnd pwnd

    Who told you we don't have much rain in Russia?

    Here in St. Petersburg the monsoon season is at least as bad as in Vietnam pwnd

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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  Rmf on Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:55 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    medo wrote:
    higurashihougi wrote:Monsanto won't like it, heh heh.

    http://www.rt.com/politics/315844-government-decides-to-ban-gmo/

    Govt decides to ban GMO food production in Russia – deputy PM

    A senior Russian government member told reporters the cabinet decided that any food production in the country will completely exclude any genetically-modified organisms or parts thereof.

    “As far as genetically-modified organisms are concerned, we have made decision not to use any GMO in food productions,” Deputy PM Arkady Dvorkovich said at an international conference on biotechnology in the Russian city of Kirov.

    At the same time the official emphasized that there was a very clear line between this decision and the development of science, medicine and some other branches.

    “This is not a simple issue, we must do very thorough work on division on these spheres and form a legal base on this foundation,” he said.

    This is excellent decision. Russia will be able to sell their food for higher prices, because it is not GMO, but natural. Russia have a lot of space to produce more food and sell it around the World. Even US and EU will buy it to have healthy and natural food.


    Here is the funny thing:

    Idea behind GMO crops is to create plants that have high yield are resistant to disease and are capable of surviving and thriving in poor quality soil and with low amount of water.
    These GMO crops have not been invented at all!!! They simply do not exist.

    What Monsanto and other vultures and snake-oil salesmen have done is that they tried  to create real functional GMO crops and have failed miserably.

    Instead they created frankensteinian abominations which have slightly higher yield but whose immune system has been completely compromised as a side effect of genetic manipulation.

    These plants require enormous amount of pesticides and other chemicals just to keep them alive. They have created botanical equivalent of human in terminal stage of AIDS.

    And guess who sells these chemicals and pesticides? That is right, Monsanto. They make their money of chemicals not GMO seeds.  

    And once farmers start using these chemicals they render farmland toxic for normal plants, only GMOs can survive afterwards.

    Basically it is the ultimate extortion racket. They claim to sell things that do not exists and are making a killing by selling poison and turning farmers into an equivalent of drug addicts!!!


    I personally look forward to the day when Real GMO crops are invented. They will create agricultural revolution in places like Mexico, Africa, Australia and other desolate regions. One day these Real GMO crops will enable mankind to grow food on Mars and other planets. It will be amazing scientific accomplishment when it happens.thumbsup


    Russia has plenty of quality soil and would not need GMO crops even when Real GMO crops are invented one day. They have hit the jackpot when it comes to agriculture.russia

    Sounds like some conspiracy theory.

    Like all conspiracy theories it falls apart under closer inspection.

    Question - why would farmers plant such crops, if they calculate that the extra expense in chemicals/pesticides will outweigh any extra yield that they might get?

    Because they are ignorant? I think that farmers know their trade well enough.

    because they are promised almost with absolute certanty very high yields and given cheap credit and chemicals are not expencive at the begining.

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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:55 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    medo wrote:
    higurashihougi wrote:Monsanto won't like it, heh heh.

    http://www.rt.com/politics/315844-government-decides-to-ban-gmo/

    Govt decides to ban GMO food production in Russia – deputy PM

    A senior Russian government member told reporters the cabinet decided that any food production in the country will completely exclude any genetically-modified organisms or parts thereof.

    “As far as genetically-modified organisms are concerned, we have made decision not to use any GMO in food productions,” Deputy PM Arkady Dvorkovich said at an international conference on biotechnology in the Russian city of Kirov.

    At the same time the official emphasized that there was a very clear line between this decision and the development of science, medicine and some other branches.

    “This is not a simple issue, we must do very thorough work on division on these spheres and form a legal base on this foundation,” he said.

    This is excellent decision. Russia will be able to sell their food for higher prices, because it is not GMO, but natural. Russia have a lot of space to produce more food and sell it around the World. Even US and EU will buy it to have healthy and natural food.


    Here is the funny thing:

    Idea behind GMO crops is to create plants that have high yield are resistant to disease and are capable of surviving and thriving in poor quality soil and with low amount of water.
    These GMO crops have not been invented at all!!! They simply do not exist.

    What Monsanto and other vultures and snake-oil salesmen have done is that they tried  to create real functional GMO crops and have failed miserably.

    Instead they created frankensteinian abominations which have slightly higher yield but whose immune system has been completely compromised as a side effect of genetic manipulation.

    These plants require enormous amount of pesticides and other chemicals just to keep them alive. They have created botanical equivalent of human in terminal stage of AIDS.

    And guess who sells these chemicals and pesticides? That is right, Monsanto. They make their money of chemicals not GMO seeds.  

    And once farmers start using these chemicals they render farmland toxic for normal plants, only GMOs can survive afterwards.

    Basically it is the ultimate extortion racket. They claim to sell things that do not exists and are making a killing by selling poison and turning farmers into an equivalent of drug addicts!!!


    I personally look forward to the day when Real GMO crops are invented. They will create agricultural revolution in places like Mexico, Africa, Australia and other desolate regions. One day these Real GMO crops will enable mankind to grow food on Mars and other planets. It will be amazing scientific accomplishment when it happens.thumbsup


    Russia has plenty of quality soil and would not need GMO crops even when Real GMO crops are invented one day. They have hit the jackpot when it comes to agriculture.russia

    Sounds like some conspiracy theory.

    Like all conspiracy theories it falls apart under closer inspection.

    Question - why would farmers plant such crops, if they calculate that the extra expense in chemicals/pesticides will outweigh any extra yield that they might get?

    Because they are ignorant? I think that farmers know their trade well enough.

    By all means, provide closer inspection.

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    Using the tundra for farming. Turning it into fertile steppe.

    Post  Firebird on Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:19 am

    Some people say that Russia suffers from having lots of very cold land that is difficult to farm.
    Well 1stly, that land can be used for other things. Secondly, with global warming that land is expected to warm up in the future. But there is a 3rd issue in all of this, a potentially revolutionary one.

    In Yakutia there is a Pleistocene Park being built. It has numerous purposes. To replicate the environm,ent of 1000s of yrs ago - so it could host even animals like mammouths! But also to allow barren Tundra to be used as rich farmland.

    Scientists believe the Tundra is fairly barren due to overhunting. So if grazing animals are reintroduced, the land will soon turn into fertile steppe. The land could then be used to rear grazing animals and for crops.

    Needless to say, this would be an immense moneyspinnerfor Russia - in farming AND tourism.

    Additionally, it would allow the beautiful more Southern areas of Russia to be kept in pristine condition, or used for warm climate only crops.

    The Pleistocene Park could be truly revolutionary. The park is already up and running so its not just conjecture, it really works.

    PS it would also be a massive hammer blow to Monsanto etc and their GM poisons!

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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:18 am

    New goat cheese factory being built, and after both phases are done it will be able to produce 375 tons of milk and 120 tons of cheese per year:

    In the Smolensk region launched a new production of goat cheese

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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:27 am

    Firebird wrote:Some people say that Russia suffers from having lots of very cold land that is difficult to farm.
    Well 1stly, that land can be used for other things. Secondly, with global warming that land is expected to warm up in the future. But there is a 3rd issue in all of this, a potentially revolutionary one.

    In Yakutia there is a Pleistocene Park being built. It has numerous purposes. To replicate the environm,ent of 1000s of yrs ago - so it could host even animals like mammouths! But also to allow barren Tundra to be used as rich farmland.

    Scientists believe the Tundra is fairly barren due to overhunting. So if grazing animals are reintroduced, the land will soon turn into fertile steppe. The land could then be used to rear grazing animals and for crops.

    Needless to say, this would be an immense moneyspinnerfor Russia - in farming AND tourism.

    Additionally, it would allow the beautiful more Southern areas of Russia to be kept in pristine condition, or used for warm climate only crops.

    The Pleistocene Park could be truly revolutionary. The park is already up and running so its not just conjecture, it really works.

    PS it would also be a massive hammer blow to Monsanto etc and their GM poisons!

    It was on sdelanounas maybe last year or early this year but it was a photoshoot of some village in northern Russia. Looked really nice, it was being redone with new roads and wooden (yes, wooden) walkways and all the homes being refurbished. It looked absolutely wonderful and I would love to see it. One thing that struck me and even the photographer though, was that there was one home that was growing potatoes. Full potatoes and lots of them. They looked very healthy and big. The kicker? The ground is permafrost.

    I know here in Canada, in permafrost lands, we get these wonderful berries that grow here. I cannot find the name for it, but will get it later. So in Russia, I imagine same can be done.

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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  Cowboy's daughter on Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:30 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:New goat cheese factory being built, and after both phases are done it will be able to produce 375 tons of milk and 120 tons of cheese per year:

    In the Smolensk region launched a new production of goat cheese

    Goat cheese (& goat's milk) is wonderful!

    I was a goat's milk baby! Very Happy

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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  higurashihougi on Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:52 pm

    flamming_python wrote:Who told you we don't have much rain in Russia?

    Here in St. Petersburg the monsoon season is at least as bad as in Vietnam pwnd

    I do not understand all the details, but as far as I heard, most of precipitation in Russia appeared in the form of snow. Liquid rain in non-winter is relatively low, but the snow is relatively thick.

    That's why Russia sows the seeds at the end of autumn, right before the snow starts to fall. The thick snow acts as some sort of heat insulation to protect the seed from freezing winter, similar to the ice cover at the water surface. When the snow melts in spring, it becomes the water supply for the paddy which already begins to sprout. And that also means the thickness of winter snow is crtitical to the survival of the seeds and the growth of the paddy.

    And since the non-snow precipitation in Russia is relatively low, Russian crops manage to achieve very high quality. Thanks to the dryness, Russian crops can avoid fungi infection and are less sour. Russian white wheat is extremely high-grade and much of it is exported to France to make French traditional white bread. France has more liquid rain the Russian and there is rain roughly at the time when the paddy begins to ripe, that somewhat reduce the quality of the grain.

    It is interesting to see that, while Russia exports a lot of white grain to France, her people prefer black bread to white bread. I haven't tried a Russian black bread yet, but some of my friend claimed that it is more delicious, although it is harder to chew.

    Please correct me if I am wrong. pwnd pwnd

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    magnumcromagnon wrote:New goat cheese factory being built, and after both phases are done it will be able to produce 375 tons of milk and 120 tons of cheese per year:

    In the Smolensk region launched a new production of goat cheese

    Goat cheese (& goat's milk) is wonderful!

    I was a goat's milk baby! Very Happy

    I have never taste the goat milk and goat cheese, can you describe ? Very Happy

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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  flamming_python on Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:52 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:Who told you we don't have much rain in Russia?

    Here in St. Petersburg the monsoon season is at least as bad as in Vietnam pwnd

    I do not understand all the details, but as far as I heard, most of precipitation in Russia appeared in the form of snow. Liquid rain in non-winter is relatively low, but the snow is relatively thick.

    That's why Russia sows the seeds at the end of autumn, right before the snow starts to fall. The thick snow acts as some sort of heat insulation to protect the seed from freezing winter, similar to the ice cover at the water surface. When the snow melts in spring, it becomes the water supply for the paddy which already begins to sprout. And that also means the thickness of winter snow is crtitical to the survival of the seeds and the growth of the paddy.

    And since the non-snow precipitation in Russia is relatively low, Russian crops manage to achieve very high quality. Thanks to the dryness, Russian crops can avoid fungi infection and are less sour. Russian white wheat is extremely high-grade and much of it is exported to France to make French traditional white bread. France has more liquid rain the Russian and there is rain roughly at the time when the paddy begins to ripe, that somewhat reduce the quality of the grain.

    It is interesting to see that, while Russia exports a lot of white grain to France, her people prefer black bread to white bread. I haven't tried a Russian black bread yet, but some of my friend claimed that it is more delicious, although it is harder to chew.

    Please correct me if I am wrong. pwnd pwnd

    Well I commend you on your knowledge of Russia; I never knew all that pwnd

    What I can say though is that Russia is a vast country and streches across many different climactic zones. Your words ring true for the southern agricultural regions, which come to think of it are reputed to be quite dry (as well as hot during the summer months).

    However here in St. Petersburg/Leningrad Region; which is basically the land bridge into Scandinavia and situated between the Finnish Gulf and Europe's largest lake (and not far from 2 other top-5 European lakes) - we have a high frequency of rainfall during the Spring and Autumn months; albeit it doesn't rain that often during summer.
    But then again, this isn't really a prime agricultural region at least in terms of crops (livestock, eggs, dairy, etc... are much more dominant here).

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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  Rmf on Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:37 pm

    it has nothing to do with wheat. white bread is made when wheat seeds brownish outer layers or crust is peeled off. it was made long ago only for nobleman and higher classes because of its ""purity"". so it stuck in culture.
    but black bread and half-white ,have much more vitamins B type ,minerals and some other because whole seed is used.

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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  Khepesh on Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:01 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:

    And since the non-snow precipitation in Russia is relatively low, Russian crops manage to achieve very high quality. Thanks to the dryness, Russian crops can avoid fungi infection and are less sour. Russian white wheat is extremely high-grade and much of it is exported to France to make French traditional white bread. France has more liquid rain the Russian and there is rain roughly at the time when the paddy begins to ripe, that somewhat reduce the quality of the grain.

    It is interesting to see that, while Russia exports a lot of white grain to France, her people prefer black bread to white bread. I haven't tried a Russian black bread yet, but some of my friend claimed that it is more delicious, although it is harder to chew.

    Please correct me if I am wrong. pwnd pwnd

    Krasnodar is one huge field, and it rains, sometimes too much.... But it does not effect the crops in an adverse way. But as FP has said, Russia is extremely diverse in type of land and I cannot even see an average. Some areas are clearly not so good for agriculture, Urals, others are almost an Eden. Half of all land in Krasnodar is arable, and considering the southern areas are mountainous it shows how good the rest is. Krasnodar has 3% of all arable land in Russia, yet produces 6% of all crops. But on imunity from diseases, the Russian honey bee in Siberia is totaly immune to varoa mite, so if bees in the rest of the world die out, not really likely but there are still concerns, Russia will have cornered the world market in honey. Russian honey is considered the best, probably why there are so many bears...

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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  ExBeobachter1987 on Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:13 pm

    4 Surprising Facts About Russian Exports You Might Not Know

    When Russian goods exports come to mind, people tend to think of things like oil, gas, vodka and high-tech weaponry. But as Russia's Gazeta.ru has found, the country's exports are, in fact, becoming “sweeter and more peaceful.”

    1. Despite arms exporters continuing to enjoy a cushy position among Russia's non energy-related export earnings, the country's exports are becoming more peaceful. Over the past year, Russian agricultural producers exported $20 billion worth of food goods, growing by 15 percent compared to the previous year, and leading agricultural products to outstrip weapons as a total share of exports.

    3. Russia's shipments of agricultural machinery abroad are on track to reaching record levels for the post-Soviet period. In the first six months of 2015, Russian producers sold 3.8 billion rubles worth (about $60 million USD) of equipment. While it might not seem like much at first, this figure is over double the amount sold last year. In the past year, exports of equipment from producers like Rostselmash have tripled to countries including Canada, Germany, France, Bulgaria, Turkey and Azerbaijan, and doubled to countries including Kazakhstan, Mongolia and Tajikistan.

    6. In 2015, the export of Russian pork products exploded from previous levels, growing by 700 percent, even though the nominal volumes remain relatively low (15,000 metric tons). Still, it's a good start. By comparison, export of poultry over the past year amounted to 70,000 metric tons, growing by 12 percent over the past year.

    7. Bran Makes You Strong Comrades: Turkey can't seem to get enough Russian bran. In the past year, between July 2014 and July 2015, Russia exported over 680,000 metric tons of bran, 80 percent more than a year earlier. Moreover, 90 percent of Russia's bran exports went to Turkey. Despite the fact that the country has its own bran growers, apparently they do not have enough for the production of animal feed.

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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:59 pm


    New irrigation system at work in the desert, before and after pics:

    2014:


    2015:




    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/68622/


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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:57 am

    higurashihougi wrote:

    I have never taste the goat milk and goat cheese, can you describe ?  Very Happy

    I don't really know how to describe it but it has a tangy taste to it compared to cows milk. Goats milk is very delicious but much stronger in taste. Goat cheese, being the same, also tends to have a lot softer texture to it so it is crumbly. But, it is absolutely fantastic and I every now and then like to have it with garlic bread and spaghetti or with crackers.

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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:57 am

    Dairy “Peter and Paul” in Kamchatka has started a new line for bottling milk

    There is a lot of work being done in dairy industry in Russia. Besides Dairy, seems the meat industry are the two major breakthroughs in Russia's agricultural economy. Very impressive to say the least.

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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:36 am

    Russia for the year increased the production of soybean oil by almost 2 times

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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  higurashihougi on Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:53 pm

    That is what we should call "sanction". russia russia

    Nice job, Russia. EU need to know that Moskva is not someone they could play with.

    https://www.rt.com/business/318109-russia-france-food-embargo/

    Russia won’t lift French food ban – Agriculture Minister

    French Agriculture Minister Stefane Le Foll is in Moscow in a bid to lift Russia's food embargo which he says has cost France at least €280 million. Le Foll’s Russian counterpart Aleksandr Tkachev says that is impossible.


    “Unfortunately, we can state that in terms of sanctions, France is an integral part of the EU. Of course, we cannot give France such an opportunity [to supply products under Russian embargo]", Tkachev told reporters on Friday.

    Russia makes up only 0.64 percent of French agricultural exports compared with 1.26 percent in 2014, said the French minister in an interview to the Interfax news agency.

    “However, the effect of [Russia's] food ban was a decline in prices in the European market due to oversupply. Therefore, it’s very difficult to estimate the actual damage, which varies depending on the sector,” said Le Foll.

    On Friday, Le Foll and Tkachev are discussing products that were not included in the Russian embargo. France is interested in continuing food supplies that were halted at the beginning of 2014 by Russia due to cases of African swine fever in Poland and the Baltics.

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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:31 am

    The pilot plant for the production of dairy products was opened in Vologda region

    I think there has been more dairy companies opening up in Russia in recent year than in Canada in decades. Very impressive.

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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  OminousSpudd on Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:38 am

    sepheronx wrote:I think there has been more dairy companies opening up in Russia in recent year than in Canada in decades.  Very impressive.
    The amount of fertile land over there that the Russian Government is practically giving away would be any New Zealand dairy farmer's dream.

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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:55 am

    In Sevastopol, in the Crimea started the first sturgeon farm

    In Tyumen, started production of cheese

    The new greenhouse complex was opened in the Amur region

    The Ryazan region opened a new vegetable store


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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:38 pm

    Agricultural Bank announced the launch of the "Made in Russia"

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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:45 pm

    Ryazan region for 9 months increased the production of meat and poultry by 11%

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    Re: Russian Agriculture News

    Post  higurashihougi on Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:42 am

    sepheronx wrote:Agricultural Bank announced the launch of the "Made in Russia"

    May I ask for detailed translation/explanation about the project and the clip ? Thank you very much.

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