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    Post  mack8 on Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:30 pm

    Thanks a lot for the links Berkut.
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    Post  ult on Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:02 pm

    Т-50-5Р

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    Post  ult on Sat Dec 05, 2015 7:25 pm

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    Post  mack8 on Sat Dec 05, 2015 8:28 pm

    Very nice, thanks Ult! Hopefully we'll see 50-8 soon too.
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    Post  mack8 on Sat Dec 05, 2015 10:28 pm

    Two more:

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    Post  AlfaT8 on Sat Dec 05, 2015 10:57 pm

    mack8 wrote:Two more:

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    Arctic camo?? Suspect

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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sat Dec 05, 2015 11:59 pm

    Thanks, ult and mack8.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:52 am

    Well, that white camouflage below and gray/blue on top might suggest a naval version because from above looking down at a blue/gray aircraft against a sea background would be well camouflaged, while looking up a white aircraft amongst clouds would be difficult to spot too...

    For arctic camo the colour pattern should be reversed with blue from below against a blue sky and white from above against a snow covered ground background.
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    Post  Cyberspec on Sun Dec 06, 2015 8:10 am

    Thx for pix from me as well...


    AlfaT8 wrote:

    Arctic camo?? Suspect


    No just crappy camo
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    Post  zg18 on Sun Dec 06, 2015 12:58 pm

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    Post  Berkut on Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:40 pm

    mack8 wrote:Very nice, thanks Ult! Hopefully we'll see 50-8 soon too.

    It is T-50-6-2 next. Wink Although -8 should be right in its heels.
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    Post  mack8 on Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:29 pm

    Ah yes, forgot about the 6-1 and 6-2 numbering.

    On another note wonder what's going on with the underside of the right wing, on a portion of it colour seems slightly different (same with the stabilator fairing).
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    Post  Guest on Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:46 am

    "Russia’s Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov said in an interview with Rossiya 24 TV Channel that flight development testing of the PAK FA fighter is nearly completed. “Several planes are now primarily testing airborne avionics. The tests proving the aircraft’s flight characteristics have practically been completed,” Borisov was quoted as saying."

    Source: http://alert5.com/2015/12/08/flight-tests-of-pak-fa-nearly-over/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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    Post  Berkut on Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:21 pm

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    Original from; http://vk.com/z25team?w=wall-9823397_12753%2Fall

    Not confirmed to be insider info but sounds very likely and in line with what we have seen;

    И пожалуй главные в словах: "восстановлен", "в ходе капитально-восстановительного ремонта". По факту от Т-50-5 на Т-50-5Р - БРЭО, конус, фонарь, ВО.

    And perhaps the key words : "restored", "in the course of overhaul and refurbishment." On the fact of the T-50-5 in T-50-5R remains avionics, nosecone, canopy, vertical stabilizers.
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    Post  mack8 on Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:35 pm

    Beautiful. Sorry to pester you again Berkut, but what you think about the oddly colored sections on the right underside (wing and stabilator)? Testing samples of the RAM paint, or something more mundane? Thanks.
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    Post  Berkut on Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:49 pm

    I have about as much clue as you do here. Razz IE no idea. It has been speculated that it is some kind of RAM testing but nothing confirmed yet. Unless it is confirmed before March, i guess we will know for sure when we see T-50-6-2...

    Either way, havent heard a pip about T-50-5R having RAM applied.
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    Post  mack8 on Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:51 pm

    Thanks, as known some time back the insider said the RAM paint is grey, so it does look quite plausible this is what we're seeing (the light green section being just the "undercoat" so to speak)
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    Post  Guest on Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:28 pm

    mack8 wrote:Thanks, as known some time back the insider said the RAM paint is grey, so it does look quite plausible this is what we're seeing (the light green section being just the "undercoat" so to speak)

    Tho he said its very dark gray.
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    Post  Berkut on Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:51 pm

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    Т-50-6-2 - сборка после нанесения РПП, подготовка к доработкам стыка центроплана и воздухозаборника, сроки пока те же.
    Т-50-8 - завершение окончательной сборки, доработка топливной системы. Передача на ЛИС по новому графику - 20.01.2016, частотные испытания - 27.01.-01.02.2016, нанесение РПП - 25.02.-25.03.2016, первый полёт - 15.04.2016, сдача - 22.04.2016.
    Т-50-9 - монтаж ОЧК 10.02.2016, монтаж двигателей - 10.03.2016, передача на ЛИС - 20.03.2016
    Т-50-10 - изготовление частей фюзеляжа, стыковка фюзеляжа и передача в цех окончательной сборки - до 15.01.2016, монтаж ОЧК - 01.03.2016, передача на ЛИС - 30.03.2016.
    Т-50-11 - изготовление центроплана и головной части фюзеляжа, стыковка фюзеляжа и передача в цех окончательной сборки - до 01.03.2016, монтаж ОЧК - 10.04.2016, передача на ЛИС - 15.05.2016.

    T-50-6-2 - assembly after the application of RAM, preparations for completions center-seam and air intake, deadlines are the same.
    T-50-8 - completion of final assembly, completion of the fuel system. Transfer to LIS for the new schedule - 20/01/2016, frequency testing - 27.01.-01.02.2016, the application of RAM - 25.02.-25.03.2016, the first flight - 15.04.2016, handover - 22.04.2016.
    T-50-9 - Mounting wing sections/panels 10.02.2016, installation of engines - 10.03.2016, handover to LIS - 20.03.2016
    T-50-10 - manufacture of parts of the fuselage, the fuselage dock and transfer to the final assembly shop - before 15.01.2016, installation wing sections/panels - 01.03.2016, handover to LIS - 30.03.2016.
    T-50-11 - Manufacturing and head of center fuselage, the fuselage dock and transfer to the final assembly shop - before 01.03.2016, installation wing panels - 10.04.2016, handover to LIS - 15/05/2016.

    Assuming things go well, 5 frames to be delivered before summer. Chances are, we will be lucky if all that happens before fall and maybe even not this year at all considering all the delays. -8 was supposed to be at LIS aaaages ago. T-50-11 is the last flying frame of prototypes, -12 is static. After that, first serials. -12 and first serials, 2017 for sure imho.
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    Post  Isos on Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:31 pm

    Are the planning to cover the engines or let them like it's done on the Su-35 ? It could reduce rcs and make it more beautifull for the export. With engines exposed it's uggly.

    What are they going to do with the testing modeles when the the Pak Fa will be mass produced ?
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    Post  Berkut on Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:03 pm

    Isos wrote:Are the planning to cover the engines or let them like it's done on the Su-35 ? It could reduce rcs and make it more beautifull for the export. With engines exposed it's uggly.

    Yes.

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    Post  Isos on Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:14 pm

    Berkut wrote:
    Isos wrote:Are the planning to cover the engines or let them like it's done on the Su-35 ? It could reduce rcs and make it more beautifull for the export. With engines exposed it's uggly.

    Yes.
    ...

    Thanks for the pics.

    It's really better than the previous.
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    Post  Vann7 on Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:58 am



    Is there any images of how the rear engines of Pak-FA will look
    if covered by stealthier airframe?
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    Post  Alex555 on Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:33 pm

    Fighters from ”Independence Day 2” Smile
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    Post  Pinto on Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:48 pm

    when will India gets to test this plane ? so that the final agreement can be signed

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