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    PAK-FA, T-50: News #3

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    Post  max steel 08/11/15, 11:13 am

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    Post  Austin 08/11/15, 05:48 pm

    Take Off Mag

    AESA for T-50 ( pg 30 ) , Tactical Missile Page 26

    http://en.take-off.ru/pdf_to/to34.pdf
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    Post  sepheronx 08/11/15, 07:20 pm

    Austin wrote:Take Off Mag

    AESA for T-50 ( pg 30 ) , Tactical Missile Page 26

    http://en.take-off.ru/pdf_to/to34.pdf

    Awesome!

    Thanks man.  I am constantly searching about the AESA radars and not getting much info.

    Edit: Interesting they are advertising motor-sitch which is all undergoing anti Russian sentiments and Russia cannot purchase through them anymore, and is having to produce locally.

    Important info:
    How many AESAs have been manufactured
    to date?

    The first two forward-looking AESAs are in bench tests – one at the chief designer’s bench in our institute and the other in the Sukhoi design bureau. They are used for testing sophisticated operating modes and introducing design and software improvements. Two AESAs are flying onboard the third and fourth T-50 flying prototypes. The fifth flying prototype started its trials in Komsomolsk-on-Amur
    following a repair. It is equipped with our AESA too. The sixth array has passed its preliminary lab tests both independently and as part of a radar and will commence its interdepartmental ground tests at Tikhomirov-NIIP soon. Another AESA has been mounted on the sixth flying prototype expected to join the trials before year-end. The aircraft will carry a complete set of our AESAs – the forward- and side-looking X-band ones as well as wingmounted L-band sets. Two more arrays are The key feature of the PAK FA Future Tactical Fighter, as the T-50 fifthgeneration fighter being developed by Sukhoi is known, is its integrated multifunction radar system wrapped around active electronically scanned arrays (AESA). The radar system is designed for a wide range of tasks, such as seeking for and acquiring aerial and ground targets, supporting the use of weapons, navigating, mapping, jamming, etc. The AESA radar is being developed by V. Tikhomirov Scientific-Research Institute of Instrument Design (Tikhomirov-NIIP), the Russian leader in the development of phased-array radar systems for aircraft and army air defence systems. The developer has demonstrated prototype AESAs developed for the PAK FA at previous MAKS air shows. The work on them has made considerable progress since then. Take-off met with Tikhomirov-NIIP Director General Yuri Bely and asked him to describe the trials of the AESA radar on Russian fifth-generation fighter and the results achieved. AESA for T-50: trials are success Yuri Bely on latest products from Tikhomirov-NIIP about to leave the assembly shop, one being bench-tested and the other being assembled. The Ryazan State Instrument-making Enterprise (GRPZ) is making two more.

    and

    How will your AESA radars evolve?
    It is an open secret that our institute has been appointed prime contractor for the AESA radar system designed to fit the Future Long-Range Bomber (Russian acronym PAK DA).
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    Post  Notio 09/11/15, 02:47 am

    It is interesting to note that according to Tikhomirov's Director General Yuri Bely Su-35S's Irbis shows better capability at least on maximum detection distance than N036, which is basically AESA version of Irbis.

    Director General wrote:our Irbis radar may well be regarded as a kind of summit in the evolution of traditional phased arrays: it is second to none in the world as far as its potential and aerial target acquisition range (over 400 km) are concerned. Recently, we have prepared materials to show how the AESA’s capabilities can be increased close enough to those of the Irbis.

    This seems to run counter to some believes about radar technology, for example Hornetfinn from F-16.net who claims to have a background in the field of radar technology thought that even power-wise weaker AESA's should show better detection performance than Irbis, because they would have lower transmission and receiving losses:

    Hornetfinn wrote:AESA radars have much better range compared to other radar systems as they have much smaller transmission and receiving losses. For example if both AESA and PESA/MSA radar have the transmitter power of 10kW, then the actual transmitted power (in the radar beam) in the AESA radar will be about twice the power in PESA/MSA radar. This is because the transmitter is in the antenna with very little in between in AESA radar. In PESA/MSA radar the transmitter itself is in the back end of the radar and there is a lot more lossy equipment in between it and the antenna. AESA also enjoys similar advantage in receiving the radar signals as the receiving element Low Noise Amplifier is again in the antenna (in T/R modules).
    Hornetfinn wrote:Similarly I'd expect the AESA for PAK-FA offer much improved capabilities to Irbis-E radar, even though it will most likely have lower T/R module count and lower power than APG-81. For example if Russians use the same modules they use for Zhuk-AE (not likely), then the PAK-FA radar should be able to detect 3 m^2 target at somewhat longer ranges than current Irbis-E (using similar search areas), even though it would be significantly lower powered system. This is because AESA radars have much lower transmission and receive losses than MSA or PESA radars. Theoretically AESA radar can be 5-6 times less powerful with the same antenna area to have equal range performance to MSA or PESA radar. Or it can have about 50-60 percent longer range with equal power and antenna size. This is one reason why AESA radars are coming so strongly at the moment.
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    Post  sepheronx 09/11/15, 04:37 am

    I recall my father who actually worked on radar specifically stated how AESA caused nothing  but issues when they replaced PESA systems up in the Dew Lines (he set them up and configured them).  And he stated they were quite unreliable at the time.  Things did change over time, but he didn't have much nice things to say about AESA and sticks by his statement today (though admits things do change over time and could have gotten a whole lot better, and he is simply stating from his experience).

    We barely have much info on N036 and the loser is speculating.  If he has evidence of his times working with radar, he better post it or he is simply a fraud (who am I kidding? it's the internet afterall...).

    Edit: As well, their statement of T/R modules for The Zhuk-A radar are questionable.  Old statements are 5W each module but newer statements are 10W each.  Apparently the T/R Modules for N036 are 15W each.  Add to that, there is a of work ongoing to making them smaller and more efficient on what Berkut and Jo were posting over at keypub.

    With all that said, The detection/tracking range of the Irbis-E is indeed second to none.  It has apparently same or better performance than the proposed AESA radar for Rafale and Typhoon.  But those may be better at ECM and EW.  But subsystems can fix that.
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    Post  Austin 13/11/15, 01:30 am

    http://ria.ru/interview/20151112/1319135062.html

    - Tell us, please, what the opportunity to acquire the aircraft of the fifth generation PAK FA with the latest electronic systems KRET?

    - KRET already talked about the features of complex EW "Himalaya" and strapdown inertial navigation system (SINS) installed on the PAK FA. Now we want to draw attention to a new radar, which is designed for the PAK FA. This radar has several ranges of work and will work not only in the forward hemisphere - it will also be a number of opportunities for the circular scan, so that the pilot has complete information about a radar environment to without taking action on the maneuvering could see what was happening on the left, right, back in the automatic mode with the projection on the helmet and interactive glass cockpit.

    According to their purpose PAK FA aircraft does not just apply to the aircraft of the fifth generation - it embodied a fundamentally new ideas. That is, it is one hundred percent digital aircraft that not only provides information to the pilot on request, but also provides full information support for the pilot - for this aircraft is equipped with a "smart skin". By "smart skin" we understand that many of the surface of the aircraft are versatile antenna systems that provide the application of the integrated use of all resources of the aircraft. First of all we are talking about the fact that a complex radar system can function, and means of passive intelligence and means of active radar and electronic warfare specialist.

    For example, a complex electronic warfare "Himalayas" at certain points in space to protect the use of radar energy resource. All this is done to ensure that the aircraft had an opportunity to review the circular space in passive and active modes, was able to provide absolute protection and round to communication and control systems, electronic warfare aircraft covered all radii. That's how it complexed possibilities of different electronic systems, making the aircraft the most secure and invulnerable. Communication systems can also be used in protected mode - to form the transmission of information is not round, but only in the direction of the points to which he has to lose one or the other flight information, get a job or other information values. This is done by including features to maximize the use of weapons by aircraft, to maximize opportunities of electronic security. We can say that the PAK FA everything works in the general contour of the digital control system of the aircraft and to provide maximum comfort and a maximum degree of control for the pilots.

    - Whether to begin deliveries to the Armed Forces of the first batch of special containers through which the Su-34 aircraft converted into electronic warfare?


    - The first batch will be delivered in November this year. On the wingtips of the Su-34 basic kit is installed EW multifunctional complex "Khibiny-10B". This year, the Defense Ministry will receive the first batch of installed under the fuselage of the so-called container incremental staff, to turn the standard Su-34 dedicated aircraft electronic warfare, which will be able to protect not only themselves, but also to provide an effective electronic countermeasures radar systems and anti-aircraft missile systems, long-range aircraft radar surveillance, and so on, that is the protection of aircraft and other groups.

    Thus, the Su-34 will be able not only combat aircraft but also a special plane of electronic warfare.
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    Post  George1 16/11/15, 09:11 pm

    Russian stealth fighter will enhance air force capabilities

    In June 2015, I published a short article in the Oxford Analytica Daily Brief discussing the capabilities of new Russian aircraft. Here’s the text, as usual with no edits other than restoring some cuts made for space reasons.


    SUBJECT: The Russian T-50 fighter and PAK DA bomber

    SIGNIFICANCE: In early June, a series of high profile crashes involving Russian military planes led to Moscow grounding the Tu-95 ‘Bear’ bomber fleet. Additionally, on June 4, a Su-34 strike fighter crashed near Voronezh and a MiG-29 crashed near the Caspian. Military leadership is hoping that the air force’s reliance on old systems will be solved by two new programmes: the Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA and the PAK–DA bomber.

    ANALYSIS: Impacts


    Russia will continue high frequency of air activity over Baltic and North Sea regions.
    Increasing numbers of European air forces will look to procure fifth-generation fighters to maintain approximate parity with Russia.
    Shortage of refueling planes will be a concern for the Russian air force and may prove to be an Achilles’ heal.
    One of the primary targets of the air force is a stealth fighter, in order to to maintain parity with the United States, a role which is sought for the T-50.

    PAK FA T-50

    The Russian Air Force has been developing a fifth-generation fighter aircraft since the late 1980s. The PAK FA T-50, has been under development at Sukhoi for about 15 years. The first flight of a prototype aircraft took place in January 2010. A total of five prototype aircraft have been delivered over the last five years. It is expected that the jet will enter service in 2016.

    Stealth abilities

    This aircraft will be the first operational stealth aircraft operated by Russia. It is expected to be built at least in part out of composite materials, highly manoeuvrable, with supercruise capability and advanced avionics. It will initially use a variant of the Saturn 117 engine currently installed on the Su-35S. A new engine, Product 30, is to be ready for production no earlier than 2017 and will become the standard engine in the 2020s. This engine is supposed to provide 17-18% more thrust, improved fuel efficiency, and higher reliability than the existing engine.

    While recently constructed prototypes have been equipped with advanced avionics, reports indicate that the T-50’s electronic components are likely to be upgraded further before serial production begins. The need for continued work on avionic equipment and engines means that the initial production run of the aircraft will retain fourth-generation characteristics and will be comparable to earlier US F-16/18s. The Russian air force will therefore not have a complete fifth-generation fighter until 2020 at the earliest.

    F-22 and F-35 comparison

    Russia generally compares the T-50 to the F-22, rather than to the F-35. The T-50 has cruising (Mach 1.7) and top (Mach 2.5) speeds that are comparable to the F-22, though it is designed to be significantly faster than the F-35, which has been tested to a top speed of Mach 1.6. The maximum range without refueling is also comparable to the F-22, at 2,000 kilometres, and slightly inferior to the F-35’s 2,200 kilometres. Service ceiling is also relatively comparable, at 20,000 metres for the F-22 and T-50 and over 18,000 metres for the F-35.

    There are extensive debates among aviation specialists regarding the relative merits of the three aircraft. These debates are complicated by the lack of reliable information on the characteristics of final versions of various T-50 components, including in such key areas as engines and avionics. At the same time, there is some consensus that the T-50 is more manoeuvrable but less ‘stealthy’ than the F-35 and F-22. Because of this characteristic, the T-50 is expected to be slightly superior to US aircraft in air battles but less successful in attacking ground targets. However, these comparisons are being made based on real data about Western aircraft but only statements regarding the T-50. Given Russian officials’ track record of hiding problems and exaggerating the capabilities of new technology, it is possible, perhaps likely, that the T-50’s performance may not match expectations.

    Cooperation with India has stalled

    Since 2007, the T-50 project has included a two-seater version designed for the Indian Air Force and commonly known as the FGFA (Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft). Original plans called for the production of 500 aircraft, with serial production to begin in 2015. Disagreements between the two sides have resulted in serious delays. The Indian side has complained that the aircraft’s engine is underpowered and unreliable, that problems with the airframe reduce the aircraft’s stealth features, that radar and other electronic systems are inadequate, that construction quality is poor, and that as a result of these defects the per unit cost is too high. As a result of these delays, India is expected to receive only three prototypes by 2017.

    Procurement plans

    Original plans called for the air force to receive 52 T-50 aircraft by 2020 and a total of 250 by 2030. However, officials have announced that due to the deteriorating economy, only twelve of these aircraft will be procured during the next five years. Four planes are expected to be produced during 2015, though these will still be considered prototypes. Therefore, the T-50 will not become a mainstay of the Russian air force in the foreseeable future.

    Overall, it is unclear whether the Russian defence industry will be able to produce some of the advanced features on this aircraft, particularly in the areas of stealth technology, avionics and fifth-generation engines. Furthermore, the cost of the aircraft, estimated to be at least 50 million dollars per unit, may make large-scale procurement unaffordable given Russia’s current economic problems.

    https://russiamil.wordpress.com/2015/11/05/russian-stealth-fighter-will-enhance-air-force-capabilities/
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    Post  Austin 16/11/15, 09:26 pm

    George1 , I appreciate your effort writing this article but I think you can do much better , writing things like

    While recently constructed prototypes have been equipped with advanced avionics, reports indicate that the T-50’s electronic components are likely to be upgraded further before serial production begins. The need for continued work on avionic equipment and engines means that the initial production run of the aircraft will retain fourth-generation characteristics and will be comparable to earlier US F-16/18s. The Russian air force will therefore not have a complete fifth-generation fighter until 2020 at the earliest.

    does not agur well and shows lack of basic understanding about the system.

    But if your editor is happy bashing Russia and I understand that sometimes it beyond the writer control then its a good article for Western MSM
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    Post  George1 16/11/15, 09:38 pm

    Austin wrote:George1 , I appreciate your effort writing this article but I think you can do much better , writing things like

    While recently constructed prototypes have been equipped with advanced avionics, reports indicate that the T-50’s electronic components are likely to be upgraded further before serial production begins. The need for continued work on avionic equipment and engines means that the initial production run of the aircraft will retain fourth-generation characteristics and will be comparable to earlier US F-16/18s. The Russian air force will therefore not have a complete fifth-generation fighter until 2020 at the earliest.

    does not agur well and shows lack of basic understanding about the system.

    But if your editor is happy bashing Russia and I understand that sometimes it beyond the writer control then its a good article for Western MSM

    the article is from this site: https://russiamil.wordpress.com/
    I didnt write it myself
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    Post  Austin 16/11/15, 09:42 pm

    My mistake George , I appologise , Its a very poorly written article lacking basic elementary knowledge
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    Post  Pinto 16/11/15, 10:06 pm

    It means indian version is going to be delayed. IAF has rightly asked for the 4 squardons of T50 version before that. Changes in airframe and engine wi; take time and can be done later on
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy 17/11/15, 01:16 am

    @George this below is wrt to western analysts not you mate


    "
    Given Russian officials’ track record of hiding problems and exaggerating the capabilities of new technology, it is possible, perhaps likely, that the T-50’s performance may not match expectations.
    "

    Laughing Razz Laughing

    Sure because flying only in dry weather or breaking neck of ejecting pilot is just minor problem not a design flaw.




    "In early June, a series of high profile crashes involving Russian military planes led to Moscow grounding the Tu-95 ‘Bear’ bomber fleet. Additionally, on June 4, a Su-34 strike fighter crashed near Voronezh and a MiG-29 crashed near the Caspian. Military leadership is hoping that the air force’s reliance on old systems will be solved by two new programmes: the Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA and the PAK–DA bomber.
    "

    So 6 F-22 and 7 F-35 crashes is not a problem just Su-34 is a disaster! I can see US

    Reichsministerium für Volksaufklärung und Propaganda in Washington DC is working fine


    lol!
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    Post  Werewolf 17/11/15, 04:15 am

    Funny that T-50 can not live up to the expectations of "exageratted" capabilities but the F-35 that was and is still hyped to be the worlds best thing in everything can't do jack shit not even 3rd generation aircrafts.
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    Post  AlfaT8 17/11/15, 04:50 am

    Werewolf wrote:Funny that T-50 can not live up to the expectations of "exageratted" capabilities but the F-35 that was and is still hyped to be the worlds best thing in everything can't do jack shit not even 3rd generation aircrafts.

    Yap, it was truly over-hyped, here are some reminders of just how hyped up things were.

    Lots of LOLs. lol!



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    Post  Vann7 17/11/15, 09:43 pm

    George1 wrote:
    Austin wrote:George1 , I appreciate your effort writing this article but I think you can do much better , writing things like

    While recently constructed prototypes have been equipped with advanced avionics, reports indicate that the T-50’s electronic components are likely to be upgraded further before serial production begins. The need for continued work on avionic equipment and engines means that the initial production run of the aircraft will retain fourth-generation characteristics and will be comparable to earlier US F-16/18s. The Russian air force will therefore not have a complete fifth-generation fighter until 2020 at the earliest.

    does not agur well and shows lack of basic understanding about the system.

    But if your editor is happy bashing Russia and I understand that sometimes it beyond the writer control then its a good article for Western MSM

    the article is from this site: https://russiamil.wordpress.com/
    I didnt write it myself

    Is actually good always to know what the western trolls are saying about Russia.
    That editor works for an american NGO and is paid for propaganda.. But is always interesting
    to see what they say.. sometimes they give some interesting information..from conferences
    he visit of NATO and US imperialism ,what they say...but most times his information is bad..
    Still thanks for the info.. i visit that place at times to see what the other side claims. but
    i agree with others this article "comparisons " between US and RUssia in stealth planes is the worse ever article he have done..by far. looks more like pure comedy.. his article is definitively at the level of F16.net infantile discussions fill with non sense... lol1
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    Post  Guest 26/11/15, 10:01 am

    First flight with the new engines pushed back to 2018.

    http://www.arms-expo.ru/news/novye_razrabotki/do_2018_goda_otlozhen_pervyy_polet_pak_fa_s_dvigatelem_vtorogo_etapa_/
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    Post  Berkut 27/11/15, 04:19 am

    T-50-0 and -7.

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    Post  RTN 27/11/15, 05:36 am

    Berkut wrote:T-50-0 and -7.

    Will production model also have S Duct.
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    Post  Berkut 27/11/15, 11:54 am

    It is not a S-intake. Just a normal intake with small bends on both axes, but that has been clear for ever now. And no, it wont change to the production ones either. It will have a special radar blocker, the PChN's are also part of the stealth design.
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    Post  Berkut 29/11/15, 03:50 am

    Did some digging, found some more stuff re the Moscow Sukhoi bureau visit on 26/11. Tiny pics from UAC;

    http://uacrussia.ru/ru/press-center/mediagallery/?photo=7230

    RG pics;

    http://www.rg.ru/2015/11/26/avia-site-anons.html#/13699_b0c664dd/1/

    TASS, most of these are available in higher res in a later link;

    http://tass.ru/ekonomika/2474034

    Video here; http://vm.ru/news/2015/11/26/sergej-sobyanin-aviastroenie-odna-iz-prioritetnih-otraslej-promishlennosti-moskvi-304308.html

    Also confirms my bet that the Su-27 thingy with P-42 nose is a ejection seat testbed, it is called Su-35-L07. Also confirms that T-50-0 is being worked on and it will be continuing testing despite T-50-7. Very surprising as i assumed it got kicked out and was the fuselage next to the famous Su-47 from this year. That fuselage must be then T-50-5's. Obviously -0 is getting -5's wings and atleast one intake fitted, probably other bits and pieces. More;

    https://www.mos.ru/pulse/news/3770073

    And finally a nice gallery including several T-50-7 pics, available in fairly high res;

    https://www.mos.ru/press/media/photo/4718057

    And finally video, mostly talking;

    https://www.mos.ru/press/media/video/4719057
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    Post  mack8 29/11/15, 08:30 am

    Thanks a lot for the links Berkut.
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    Post  ult 05/12/15, 07:02 am

    Т-50-5Р

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    Post  ult 06/12/15, 07:25 am

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    Post  mack8 06/12/15, 08:28 am

    Very nice, thanks Ult! Hopefully we'll see 50-8 soon too.
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