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    Pakistan Army: News

    Post  George1 on Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:14 pm

    Pakistan Holds Parade After 7-Year Break

    ISLAMABAD — Pakistan held its first Republic Day parade Monday after a seven-year break caused by the security situation and operational commitments due to the war against the Pakistan Taliban (TTP) and its allies.

    Though large-scale terrorist attacks are no longer as frequent, Operation Zarb-e-Azb against the TTP is ongoing, and recent days have seen fierce clashes in the Tirah Valley in the Khyber Agency near the Afghan-Pak border as the Army fights to regain territory from the Lashkar-i-Islam terrorist group.

    The parade was an annual event commemorating the calling for an independent state in 1940 and the day Pakistan was declared a republic in 1956, but was last held in 2007.

    Security was very tight for the parade which was carried out in a new purpose-built parade ground. Parts of the city were cordoned off and the mobile phone network disabled.

    Brian Cloughley, former Australian defense attache to Islamabad, said these measures were expected.

    "I've been going to these parades for a very long time — first I think in 1980. And while there was always security, there was no threat then in any way comparable to what exists now. Today there would have been no possibility of parading along Jinnah Avenue for hours as in the past," he said.

    Jinnah Avenue is one of the city's main thoroughfares. Security concerns in 2007 shifted the parade to nearby Jinnah Stadium before it was suspended.

    Cloughley said holding the parade again this year was intended to send a message.

    "It seems that the government wanted the parade to go ahead to try to make the point that the fight against internal terrorism is being won. It's certainly a step in the right direction, but it by no means indicates that the campaign is anywhere near over. It was a good PR exercise."

    But he said he does not think holding the parade indicates more healthy military finances.

    The parade has previously featured new defense equipment. ​The first public appearance of the JF-17 Thunder multirole combat aircraft was in the 2007 parade.

    A number of defense systems were seen in public for the first time at this year's parade. These included the FM-90 surface-to-air missile, Karakorum Eagle and Saab Erieye AEW&C aircraft, the A100E/AR1 300mm multiple launch rocket system, the AS550 Fennec helicopter, and the Nasr multiple tactical nuclear missile system.

    Also taking part were some of the VCC-1 and VCC-2 armored personnel carriers. They are Italian variants of the venerable M-113, which is in service with the Army and also produced by state-owned Heavy Industries Taxila.

    Italy transferred nearly 600 surplus VCC-1 and VCC-2 APCs to Pakistan last year.

    The Fennec was reportedly the cause of dispute between Airbus Helicopters and Pakistan, and its operational status was unclear among analysts for some time.

    However, in addition to records showing that unguided rockets were tendered for the type, its inclusion in the Army aviation flyover proves it is operational. The ones on display, however, appeared to have their roof-mounted FLIR sensor removed.

    It was announced that the helicopter undertakes convoy protection duties, an important task in the operations against the TTP.

    The Burraq unmanned combat air vehicle, which is at least heavily influenced by the Chinese CASC Rainbow CH-3 if not a locally built version, overflew the parade venue armed with two laser guided missiles. A film of it being tested was released by the military's Inter Services Public Relations media arm earlier this month.

    The FM-90 SAM is a Chinese development of the French Crotale. The Crotale had been in service with the Pakistan Air Force until it was replaced by the Italian MBDA Spada 2000 from 2010.

    There were noted absences, however, including the Shaheen III medium-range ballistic missile, which was tested for the first time earlier this month, and the Chinese CAIC WZ-10 helicopter gunship, three of which were provided to Pakistan free of cost earlier this month.

    Analyst Usman Shabbir of the Pakistan Military Consortium think tank said this was to be expected, but said it is "too early to tell" if the WX-10 will replace the long serving Bell AH-1F Cobras.

    "The Army will put [the WZ-10s] into actual combat use and based on that we might go for more," he said.

    Mansoor Ahmed, who lectures at Quaid-e-Azam University's Department of Defence and Strategic Studies, says the absence of Shaheen III was to be expected as it is a new system that has only been tested once.

    He drew attention to some of the other systems on display.

    "Two systems displayed are of particular importance as they reflect Pakistan's emerging nuclear posture: the Babur [land attack cruise missile] and the Nasr [short-range ballistic missile]. Both are dual-use mobile systems designed for counterforce strikes against a variety of high-value enemy targets with precision."

    Adding, "The fact that the Nasr was displayed for the first time, in a quad missile configuration designed for salvo launch, shows that the system has been integrated into the strategic forces."

    He also highlighted the induction of the FM-90 SAM by the Army's air defense as "it shows that [the Army] is moving to plug this critical gap and is a recognition of the evolving nature of threat posed by a massive force modernization by the [Indian Air Force]."


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    Post  Werewolf on Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:39 pm

    Pakistan recieved first test batch of chinese Z-10 Attack Helicopter which maybe the first future export user of the Z-10 to replace the aging Cobra fleet.





    http://uk.businessinsider.com/chinese-attack-helicopters-could-soon-replace-american-cobras-in-pakistan-2015-4?r=US
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    Post  George1 on Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:45 am

    State Dept. OKs $952M Pakistan Helo Deal

    WASHINGTON — The US State Department has cleared a $952 million sale to Pakistan that includes 15 AH-1Z Viper attack helicopters and 1,000 Hellfire II missiles, according to a Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) announcement.

    The sale is intended to support Pakistan's counterterrorism and counterinsurgency operations with a precision-strike, enhanced-survivability aircraft that can operate at high-altitudes, according to DSCA's Monday announcement. Pakistan would use the gear in operations in the North Waziristan Agency, the Federally Administered Tribal Areas and other remote and mountainous areas in all-weather, day-and-night environments.

    "This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a country vital to U.S. foreign policy and national security goals in South Asia," the announcement says.

    The local Bell representatives in Pakistan, Access Zone, did not respond to queries regarding when they expected delivery should the deal be approved, or if they hoped more would be acquired to fully replace the approximately 48 Cobras currently in service.

    Analysts in Pakistan expressed surprise at the announcement. Though the Viper had long been suggested as a replacement for the current fleet of AH-1F/S helicopter gunships, US congressional opposition seemed to make acquisition of further US equipment unlikely.

    Analyst, author and former Australian defense attache to Islamabad, Brian Cloughley, says he was "absolutely certain that the US would not supply any more attack helicopters."

    But he welcomes the announcement.

    "This is very good news for Pakistan on two counts: First, the Army is getting one of the most sophisticated attack helicopters in the world; second, it shows that the US has not abandoned Pakistan, as so many people thought it had," he said.

    "It does require the assent of Congress," said Cloughley, "but if Congress were to block it this would send a negative message concerning its determination to keep up the war on terror."

    This is not to say that unrestricted arms sales will resume as "it seems that the main criterion is that US-supplied materiel must be COIN [counterinsurgency] specific. There would be difficulty in providing systems that are obviously intended for general warfare, i.e. against India," Cloughley says.

    Claude Rakisits, nonresident senior fellow at the Atlantic Council's South Asia Center, said that "in its deliberations about whether to approve such a sale to Pakistan, the fact that the provision of this new capability will not alter the military balance between the two nuclear-armed states – Pakistan and India – will make it easier for the lawmakers to agree to this sale."

    The announcement comes at a time when multiple types of helicopters are being pursued, both to replace the Cobras, and potentially support paramilitary and special forces operations.

    Analyst Haris Khan of the Pakistan Military Consortium think tank said that even though it is a small number, the Vipers could replace at least some of the Cobras and it comes at a time when China has supplied three WZ-10 gunships, and Russia may be close to supplying approximately 20 Mi-35 Hinds

    Agence France-Press reported Friday that Pakistan has in recent weeks focused its fight against the Taliban on the Tirah Valley, a Federally Administered Tribal Area, with a series of air strikes and ground assaults. Though the area, with steep valleys and dense woods, is inaccessible, Pakistan's military has claimed it has taken control of key terrain there.

    Pakistan had sought new helicopter gunships for the best part of a decade to replace the Cobras, which have been fast wearing out due to the pace of operations against the Pakistani Taliban and its allies in and around the tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. In November, it appeared Pakistan was closing a deal for Mi-35 Hind heavy attack helicopters, based on a Pakistani radio interview with Russia's ambassador.

    The US sale includes 32 T-700 GE 401C engines; 36 H-1 technical refresh mission computers; 17 AN/AAQ-30 target sight systems; 30 629F-23 ultra high frequency/very high frequency communication systems; 19 H-764 embedded global positioning system/inertial navigation systems; 32 helmet mounted display/optimized top owl; 17 APX-117A identification friend or foe; 17 AN/AAR-47 missile warning systems; 17 AN/ALE-47 countermeasure dispenser sets; 18 AN/APR-39C(V)2 radar warning receivers; 15 joint mission planning systems; and 17 M197 20mm gun systems.

    Bell Helicopter, Textron, General Electric, Boeing and Lockheed Martin will be the principal contractors.
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    Post  Mike E on Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:22 am

    Pakistan just announced they will not be purchasing the MBT-3000 because of minimal improvements over the Al-Khalid MBT-2000. Currently it appears like they are favoring the Oplot-M, though the T-90MS has not had a chance to be tested.

    Thoughts?
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    Post  jhelb on Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:36 pm

    Mike E wrote:Pakistan just announced they will not be purchasing the MBT-3000 because of minimal improvements over the Al-Khalid MBT-2000. Currently it appears like they are favoring the Oplot-M, though the T-90MS has not had a chance to be tested.

    Thoughts?

    The Soviet T 80 series is streets ahead of MBT 3000 or any other Chinese tanks. The Chinese had to hire Soviet/Russian/Ukrainian scientists to help them in designing MBTs. The KBA 3 canon is one of the best 125 mm smoothbore canon in business. Also compared to the MBT 3000 the T 84 has far better power to weight ratio.

    On the flip side the APS of the T 84 is somewhat outdated especially when compared to APS on Russian MBTs. Moreover Ukrainian tanks have not been tested in very hot climate. Pakistan will be using their tanks against just one country, India. So we will have to wait and see how these tanks will fare in 50°C.

    Eventually it boils down to this, will you purchase a AK 47 if you can afford a AK 12?



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    Re: Pakistan Army: News

    Post  Book. on Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:20 am

    Pakstan army 300+ T80. lot spare supply

    Oplot good tank. Fcs look good
    TI 8-12 micron. Duplet ERA

    Mbt 2000 good chasis. bad turret design
    Ukrane can help modern turret improve make
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    Post  Gunner on Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:07 am

    Book. wrote:Pakstan army 300+ T80. lot spare supply

    Oplot good tank. Fcs look good
    TI 8-12 micron. Duplet ERA

    Mbt 2000 good chasis. bad turret design
    Ukrane can help modern turret improve make

    Pak operates 325 T-80UDs with 84 turrets,gun etx...


    The MBT-3000 wasn't chosen coz it offers nothing Pak Al Khalid apart from some extra armour ... The Oplot Ms suffered engine failure ... But the Ukrainians have promised to ship an improved variant in a few months... Meanwhile a 1500 HP AK II is unde development ... AK I is rated above T-80UDd by Pak army.
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    Post  Gunner on Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:15 am

    MBT-3000 & OPLOT M in Pak;

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    Post  sepheronx on Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:29 am

    Gunner wrote:
    Book. wrote:Pakstan army 300+ T80. lot spare supply

    Oplot good tank. Fcs look good
    TI 8-12 micron. Duplet ERA

    Mbt 2000 good chasis. bad turret design
    Ukrane can help modern turret improve make

    Pak operates 325 T-80UDs with 84 turrets,gun etx...


    The MBT-3000 wasn't chosen coz it offers nothing Pak Al Khalid apart from some extra armour ... The Oplot Ms suffered engine failure ... But the Ukrainians have promised to ship an improved variant in a few months... Meanwhile a 1500 HP AK II is unde development ... AK I is rated above T-80UDd by Pak army.

    I would be cautious of Ukrainian help.  They apparently haven't produced much since 2009 and apparently they haven't produced an engine since.  As well, there are terrible quality control - see Iraq for example and their BTR-4's (same plant).

    Better off just upgrading Al-Khalid and keep old T-80's just for reserves.

    Who makes the Al-Khalid anyway? Does Pakistan? Cause from what I read, Peru got to keep some model of the MBT-2000 from China and had major issues with quality of the tank. But since AL-K is a specialized model, I assume it is for Pakistans standards, and partially built in Pakistan. Right?
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    Post  Gunner on Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:37 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    Gunner wrote:
    Book. wrote:Pakstan army 300+ T80. lot spare supply

    Oplot good tank. Fcs look good
    TI 8-12 micron. Duplet ERA

    Mbt 2000 good chasis. bad turret design
    Ukrane can help modern turret improve make

    Pak operates 325 T-80UDs with 84 turrets,gun etx...


    The MBT-3000 wasn't chosen coz it offers nothing Pak Al Khalid apart from some extra armour ... The Oplot Ms suffered engine failure ... But the Ukrainians have promised to ship an improved variant in a few months... Meanwhile a 1500 HP AK II is unde development ... AK I is rated above T-80UDd by Pak army.

    I would be cautious of Ukrainian help.  They apparently haven't produced much since 2009 and apparently they haven't produced an engine since.  As well, there are terrible quality control - see Iraq for example and their BTR-4's (same plant).

    Better off just upgrading Al-Khalid and keep old T-80's just for reserves.

    Who makes the Al-Khalid anyway?  Does Pakistan?  Cause from what I read, Peru got to keep some model of the MBT-2000 from China and had major issues with quality of the tank.  But since AL-K is a specialized model, I assume it is for Pakistans standards, and partially built in Pakistan.  Right?

    Ukraine offered 60% ToT ... AK is a Pak tank ... It doesn't use a single chinese system .. An is built entirely in Pak by HIT... Peru ordered the watered down VTA1 variant ... Which was nothing but a monkey model .. I don't know if they had any quality issues but recently Saudis ordered 150 AK's from Pakistan.
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    Post  sepheronx on Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:39 am

    Gunner wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    Gunner wrote:
    Book. wrote:Pakstan army 300+ T80. lot spare supply

    Oplot good tank. Fcs look good
    TI 8-12 micron. Duplet ERA

    Mbt 2000 good chasis. bad turret design
    Ukrane can help modern turret improve make

    Pak operates 325 T-80UDs with 84 turrets,gun etx...


    The MBT-3000 wasn't chosen coz it offers nothing Pak Al Khalid apart from some extra armour ... The Oplot Ms suffered engine failure ... But the Ukrainians have promised to ship an improved variant in a few months... Meanwhile a 1500 HP AK II is unde development ... AK I is rated above T-80UDd by Pak army.

    I would be cautious of Ukrainian help.  They apparently haven't produced much since 2009 and apparently they haven't produced an engine since.  As well, there are terrible quality control - see Iraq for example and their BTR-4's (same plant).

    Better off just upgrading Al-Khalid and keep old T-80's just for reserves.

    Who makes the Al-Khalid anyway?  Does Pakistan?  Cause from what I read, Peru got to keep some model of the MBT-2000 from China and had major issues with quality of the tank.  But since AL-K is a specialized model, I assume it is for Pakistans standards, and partially built in Pakistan.  Right?

    Ukraine offered 60% ToT ... AK is a Pak tank ... It doesn't use a single chinese system .. An is built entirely in Pak by HIT... Peru ordered the watered down VTA1 variant ... Which was nothing but a monkey model ..  I don't know if they had any quality issues but recently Saudis ordered 150 AK's from Pakistan.

    What China offered was just MBT-2000. Nothing more, nothing less as China doesn't really have that same concept. But what I noticed was that I had heard of quality being far better on Al-K tanks compared to MBT-2000 so my guess was that it was built locally to Pakistan needs, and that it shares little in the MBT-2000 besides initial design.

    Good job for Pakistan for getting a contract to sell them.
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    Post  Gunner on Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:55 am

    [quote="sepheronx"][quote="Gunner"][quote="sepheronx"]
    Gunner wrote:
    Book. wrote:Pakstan army 300+ T80. lot spare supply

    Oplot good tank. Fcs look good
    TI 8-12 micron. Duplet ERA

    Mbt 2000 good chasis. bad turret design
    Ukrane can help modern turret improve make

    Pak operates 325 T-80UDs with 84 turrets,gun etx...


    The MBT-3000 wasn't chosen coz it offers nothing Pak Al Khalid apart from some extra armour ... The Oplot Ms suffered engine failure ... But the Ukrainians have promised to ship an improved variant in a few months... Meanwhile a 1500 HP AK II is unde development ... AK I is rated above T-80UDd by Pak army.

    MBT-2000 and VTA1 are export models of AK... Mbt-2000 being the high end and VTA1 being the low end ... MBT-2000 uses chinese systems unlike AK which uses Pak and European (French) systems ... VTA1 doesn't just use chinese systems but lacks a lot of additional features like Hunter Killer,IBMS etc etc...

    Meanwhile MBT-2000has been sold to Peru,Morrocoo,Bangladesh and Myanmar ... (the tank was initially advertised by the chinese as their own product but later a joint marketing team was formed -- hence the profits from the sales were divided between Pak and China -- Mostly Pak because it was developer by Pak with initially some help from China ...

    Meanwhile Pak offers AK.. Which is much better and (expensive at over 4.5 million per unit).
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    Post  sepheronx on Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:03 am

    Gunner wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    Gunner wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    Gunner wrote:
    Book. wrote:Pakstan army 300+ T80. lot spare supply

    Oplot good tank. Fcs look good
    TI 8-12 micron. Duplet ERA

    Mbt 2000 good chasis. bad turret design
    Ukrane can help modern turret improve make

    Pak operates 325 T-80UDs with 84 turrets,gun etx...


    The MBT-3000 wasn't chosen coz it offers nothing Pak Al Khalid apart from some extra armour ... The Oplot Ms suffered engine failure ... But the Ukrainians have promised to ship an improved variant in a few months... Meanwhile a 1500 HP AK II is unde development ... AK I is rated above T-80UDd by Pak army.

    MBT-2000 and VTA1 are export models of AK... Mbt-2000 being the high end and VTA1 being the low end ... MBT-2000 uses chinese systems unlike AK which uses Pak and European (French) systems ... VTA1 doesn't just use chinese systems but lacks a lot of additional features like Hunter Killer,IBMS etc etc...

    Meanwhile MBT-2000has been sold to Peru,Morrocoo,Bangladesh and Myanmar ... (the tank was initially advertised by the chinese as their own product but later a joint marketing team was formed -- hence the profits from the sales were divided between Pak and China -- Mostly Pak because it was developer by Pak with initially some help from China ...

    Meanwhile Pak offers AK.. Which is much better and (expensive at over 4.5 million per unit).
    Peru didn't order any MBT-2000's. They said they were going to, then they said they were going to order newer T-90's and what not. In the end, they didn't purchase anything. Still using their old T-55's. I see that Bangladesh, and Myanmar ordered them. Good for them! Hopefully it works out for them. Definitely a nice tank. Only thing is, it seems most of the sales have been VTA1 according to wiki. But good money for Pakistan.
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    Post  Gunner on Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:43 am

    No.. Bangladesh n myanmar bought mbt-2000s.. They paid almost 4 million a pop for those..
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    Post  sepheronx on Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:03 am

    Gunner wrote:No.. Bangladesh n myanmar bought mbt-2000s.. They paid almost 4 million a pop for those..

    Sorry. you are right. I was looking at wiki and it just said VTA1.

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    Post  JohninMK on Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:30 pm

    NEW DELHI (Sputnik) — Pakistan will acquire four Russian Mi-35M helicopters, the Russian Embassy in Islamabad said Thursday. "The contract for four Mi-35M transport and attack helicopters was signed late last week," an embassy spokesperson told RIA Novosti. According to the spokesperson, the agreement was reached between Russia's state arms exporter Rosoboronexport and Pakistan's Ministry of Defense.

    In July, Deputy CEO of Russian Helicopters Andrey Shibitov said a decision to supply Mi-35M helicopters to Pakistan to fight terrorism could be made in the near future.

    In September 2014, Rosoboronexport's deputy director general, Sergey Goreslavsky, said Pakistan was seeking to purchase several Mi-35M helicopters to combat terrorism. Russia and Pakistan signed a deal to collaborate on defense two months later.

    The Mi-24/25/35 family, with capabilities of landing and transporting up to eight paratroopers, is in current use by the Russian, Brazilian, Venezuelan and Azerbaijani armed forces.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/asia/20150820/1025955292.html#ixzz3jLdbphYq
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    Post  Gunner on Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:12 am

    More Mi-35E's will be bought... This is an initial batch..
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    Post  Werewolf on Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:31 am

    Gunner wrote:More Mi-35E's will be bought... This is an initial batch..

    Any news on the Z-10 from Pakistan army or any other source?

    Performance, technology, engagements etc?
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    Post  Gunner on Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:41 am

    Werewolf wrote:
    Gunner wrote:More Mi-35E's will be bought... This is an initial batch..

    Any news on the Z-10 from Pakistan army or any other source?

    Performance, technology, engagements etc?
    None as of yet ....... Although Pak has also bought Vipers from USA.. But than again we have a fleet of 55-56+ Cobras .. Most of them need replacement despite upgrades... Do either all of them will be with Vipers .. Or maybe they will go for Z-10s or T-129 for numbers along with Vipers..


    Meanwhile Mi-35s will equip the SSG Sqds...


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    Post  Book. on Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:09 am

    Украина отправьте Пакистан боевой танк Оплот 2015
    Ukrane Pakstan deliver the Oplot tank trial 2015

    Sept 11 2015 [09.13.2015 05:25:46]

    [Photo: Andrei-BT]









    Pakstan to test oplot again
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:51 am

    Book. wrote:Украина отправьте Пакистан боевой танк Оплот 2015
    Ukrane Pakstan deliver the Oplot tank trial 2015

    Sept 11 2015 [09.13.2015 05:25:46]

    [Photo: Andrei-BT]









    Pakstan to test oplot again

    Oplot? More like O-plopped a deuce in the toilet and flushed....I guess someone has to get their feet wet and take it out for a spin...




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    Post  flamming_python on Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:38 am

    Would be nice if Pakistan got the Oplot, it's a good tank.

    But Kharkov's busy producing/repairing tanks for Kiev's warmachine, so I don't see it happening right now.
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    Post  Mike E on Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:46 am

    flamming_python wrote:Would be nice if Pakistan got the Oplot, it's a good tank.

    But Kharkov's busy producing/repairing tanks for Kiev's warmachine, so I don't see it happening right now.
    A good tank sure, but not as good as the T-90MS.  Wink

    I think the primary problem would be logistics...it would be impossible for Kharkov to build units for Pakistan en mass, never-mind sub systems and maintenance.

    And Ukraine has been seen selling some sketchy APFSDS blowbacks from the past. Thai Oplot-M's have been seen with the 3BVM9...and I thought Russia was bad.
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    Ukrane Pakstan deliver the Oplot tank trial 2015

    Post  Book. on Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:54 am

    Український танк "Оплот" очолює рейтинг основних панцерників світу
    Ukrane TV say Oplot the No1. kill T90!

    Published on May 10, 2015

    UA - Ukrainian tank "Oplot" main tops Battleship world. N simulated virtual tank range, placing it 12 major Battleship world. The computer system has identified the worst Pakistani tank car production, and the safest for the crew and the most dangerous in a frontal collision was the Ukrainian tank "Oplot" which are made ​​in Kharkiv. Release TSN.Tyzhden on May 10, 2015



    Ukrane TV kind crazy wow!

    Oplot better the M1 T90? Suspect
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