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    Tunguska Event explosion (30 June 1908)

    Post  Vladislav on Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:00 pm

    More than 100 years have passed since the Tunguska Meteorite Event and the mystery of its occurrence remains unsolved, but scientists have not given up on solving the riddle. This July, an international research group from Italy and the United States ventured into deepest Siberia to investigate the most likely explanations of the mysterious event, and RIA Novosti correspondent David Burghardt joined them.

    On June 30, 1908, Eastern Siberia was hit by an explosion equal to 2,000 times the nuclear bomb that destroyed the Japanese city of Hiroshima in 1945, destroying 2,200 square kilometers of taiga and flattening tens of millions of trees. If this impact had occurred four hours later, the city of St. Petersburg and other nearby villages would have been wiped off the face of the earth.

    Travel to epicenter


    Some 15 hours after the devastating impact, the skies throughout Europe were lit up for several nights and white nights were noted in places that had never experienced such a phenomenon. Witnesses at the time in Britain, Denmark and Germany said they were able to read a newspaper in the middle of the night without using any artificial light.


    It was not until the winter of 1927-1928 that the first expedition was organized to investigate reports from witnesses of the event. The expedition was led by Russian scientist Leonid Kulik, who headed for the epicenter in search for the meteorite he believed was the only possible explanation for the event. Travel back then to such a remote area was a very expensive and grueling affair, taking first a train to Krasnoyarsk in Eastern Siberia, and then traveling north on foot for hundreds of kilometers. Kulik’s first expedition 19 years after the event enlisted numerous native Evenki guides and dozens of reindeer. Kulik, like hundreds of scientists after him, found no traces of a meteorite.

    Travel to the area today is much easier than in Kulik’s time, taking an airplane from Moscow to Krasnoyarsk, then a small prop plane to the village of Vanavara, and finally a Russian Mi-8 cargo helicopter into the region of the epicenter.

    The two-week expedition included six professors from the University of Bologna, the University of Florence, and Cornell University.

    There are some 100 theories of the Tunguska Event, including some of the more bizarre ones of a UFO crash site, a WWII bomber caught in a time warp and returning to 1908, Earth crossing through a black hole, and a cloud of mosquitoes that spontaneously combusted due to heat created by flying too densely.

    The first theory was created in 1908 by native Evenki tribes in Eastern Siberia who were the actual witnesses of the event. According to their legend, the fire god, Agdy, became angered and destroyed all that was living in the area. Witnesses said there were several deafening explosions and trees were heard falling thousands of miles away.

    Camp at Lake Cheko


    The researchers looked at two of the most probable theories: meteorite impact and volcanic gas vent explosion. The scientific expedition was divided into two camps, one at Lake Cheko, where they were researching the meteorite theory, and the other at Kulik’s Cabin near the epicenter (some 10 kilometers from the first group), where they were researching geological explanations for the blast.



    METEORITE IMPACT THEORY (Lake Cheko)

    Of the hundreds of expeditions into the epicenter or impact area, not one has found any evidence that a meteorite struck the Earth’s surface. Pieces of a meteorite have never been discovered and no crater has been confirmed anywhere in the area.

    Four professors from the University of Bologna, Carlo Stanghellini, Maurizio Serrazanetti, Romano Serra, and Marco Cocchi, believe Lake Cheko was created by a meteorite impact due to its shape and tree growth in the area. The lake is elliptical (approximately 100 meters by 300 meters) rather than round, which is consistent with other lakes and swamps in the area. However, no impact ring or rim residue has been discovered at the lake, which would be noticeable had a meteorite created the lake. The native Evenki say that the lake has always been there and the name comes from the Evenki language meaning “dark waters.”

    Professors Stanghellini and Serrazanetti focused their research on the lake bottom using both technical and not so technical equipment, including a magnetometer, radar, underwater camera and grappling hooks.

    The scientists used a magnetometer to locate magnetic elements on the floor of the lake such as iron or other metallic elements, which would indicate that a meteorite or its fragments were on the bottom. Stanghellini described a magnetometer as a sophisticated compass that will show peaks on a monitor if it finds something metal. He said that just like a regular compass, if you set a piece of metal near it, the arrow will point to the metal piece and not to the magnetic North. Because of the magnetometer’s sensitivity, the scientists did their research on an inflatable rubber raft using wooden oars so as not spike the instrument. Before the process, they flagged

    the entire lake in 10-meter swaths. They discovered a small anomaly in the center of the lake on one of the passes and said they would study the data more thoroughly on their return to Italy. On the following day, however, the magnetic anomaly was not detected on the screen and the scientists did not collect any other substantial evidence to support their theory that there are meteorite fragments on the bottom of the lake.

    Lake Cheko research

    They also conducted radar soundings and underwater filming, but again came up with no substantial evidence.

    Grappling hooks were dragged along the lake bottom to recover debris. They recovered mostly small branches and roots, which may or may not have been from 1908. The scientists said that the debris could have been under a thick layer of silt that would have preserved the debris, though they may have been recently deposited by the stream flowing into the lake. These samples were packed and sent to the university to define their age and find any proof of impact damage to them.

    Stanghellini said further research of the lake’s bottom was necessary, especially in drilling a core sample beneath the lake, though this would require international support and financing.

    On shore, professors Serra and Cocchi cut down several trees and collected slabs as well as core samples of trees that survived the 1908 event, trees that were destroyed after the event and younger trees that appeared after the event. Samples were taken on the North and South side of Lake Cheko. According to their preliminary studies, the samples showed that the trees had tight rings prior to the 1908 event, which means the trees grew very slowly due to competition with other trees and were growing densely together. Serra said that in 1908, the trees show scars with resin deposits (pitch) and then a very slow growth rate for two years due to shock. After 1910, the trees show much wider rings, which indicate there was less competition with other trees, more sunlight and nutrients. He also said that the coniferous trees in the area should be associated with trees from the taiga and not lakeside forests, where there is usually heavy underbrush. Serra said that tree samples taken 4-50 meters from the lake are similar in growth patters of trees 2-3 kilometers away from the lake prior to 1908, indicating that all of the trees are native to a taiga environment and not a lake. He added that a significant growth change occurred in the trees located by the lake after 1908; whereas, those trees kilometers away from the lake continued to have tight rings due to slow growth and competition.

    Tree research at Lake Cheko

    Serra noted that the survivor trees were much smaller during the 1908 event, meaning that they were bent over or twisted during the impact. All of the large trees, on the other hand, were uprooted. He said this is similar to what happens to trees during a hurricane. He also noted that the tree samples taken near Lake Cheko were similar to those taken after the Chernobyl nuclear reactor meltdown site in Ukraine in 1986.

    Evidence collected in previous expeditions by Serra showed that tree limbs from 1908 contained deposits of magnesium, titanium, sulfurs, and several undefined elements, which would support the theories of a meteorite or even volcanic activity.

    All four of the Italian researchers at Lake Cheko believe the lake was created by one of three impacts in 1908: the first exploded in the atmosphere, the second struck the ground, creating Lake Cheko and changing the direction of the creek, and the third struck the ground further North at the epicenter, presumably creating several deep bogs. They agreed that the meteorite that created the lake would have been 1-5 meters in diameter and the tree growth around the lake proved that it was created in 1908.

    Cocchi did much research on an old creek bed that the scientists assume was cut off or rerouted after the 1908 event. Difficulties in researching the creek bed arise due to the fact that 20 centimeters under the surface there is permafrost that cannot be dug up. Drilling the creek bed is also planned to get a core sample in order to estimate when the creek changed its course and began flowing into the lake after it was created by the meteorite, according to the scientists.

    VOLCANIC GAS VENT EXPLOSION THEORY (Tunguska Epicenter)

    Jason Phipps Morgan, a geophysicist from Cornell University, and Paola Vanucchi, a geologist and geophysicist from the University of Florence, believe that the 1908 event was the result of a gas vent explosion created from the center of the earth. They did much investigation around the epicenter, especially what is called John’s Rock, which is a 10-12 ton rock formation that is free-standing. According to Morgan, this rock was actually “burped up” when the gas vent exploded, pushing the rock to the surface through a funnel. Morgan named the still unconfirmed funnel after his colleague, Paola’s Funnel. He noted that this rock is the only one of its kind in the area and is definitely of volcanic nature. The scientists collected some 30 kilograms of rock samples, especially quartz and quartzite, from and around John’s Rock, in search of shocked quartz, which would indicate that there was volcanic activity in the area.

    Geology research at epicenter

    Vanucchi said that some of the rock samples showed traces of being shocked, or fractured, and further research on the samples would be completed in both Italy and the United States. She also said that they believe they have found the main vent of the volcanic gas explosion very near to John’s Rock.

    The researchers revealed that the Russian geological mineral map they were supplied with was incorrect in many places in regard to the elements found in the area, as well as to the depth of some of the quartz deposits. Vanucchi said that they had started updating the existing map, but further research would be needed to perfect it.

    The scientists were also interested in Churgym Waterfall which showed one of the largest samples of volcanic basalt in the world, indicating millions of years of volcanic activity in the area. There was a constant flow of lava, which is visible in layers around the falls and stream. Only some 30 meters of the basalt is above the surface, which is visible due to erosion by the stream and there is no estimate of how deep the volcanic rock extends beneath the earth.

    Morgan said the amount of basalt in the area is so great that it proves the existence of constant volcanic activity for millions of years. Samples from the waterfall area were also taken for comparison with those from the John’s Rock location. Though lava has ceased to reach the surface, lava vents still exist and can build up pressure and blow, thus creating a blast like that in the epicenter.

    COMET THEORY

    One of the most commonly acceptable theories today is that of a comet or a piece from the tail of a comet hitting the Earth’s surface. Upon returning to Moscow, RIA Novosti spoke with two Russian scientists on the comet theory.

    Vitaly Romeiko, the director of the Department of Astrophysics at Zvenigorod Observatory, said in an interview in Moscow that the 1908 event was caused by a fragment of the Encke Comet’s tail that entered the Earth’s atmosphere as a ball of ice with small interplanetary fragments (dust particles) and, upon entrance, exploded due to the negative ions in the comet and the positive ions found on Earth. He pointed out that the Encke Comet also revolves around the sun and comes near Earth every 3.3 years.

    Romeiko has participated in 23 expeditions into the Tunguska region.

    Olga Gladysheva, a senior fellow at the A.F. Ioffe Physics and Technical Institute in St. Petersburg, supported Romeiko’s theory in a separate interview with RIA Novosti, adding that the part of the comet’s tail separated and created a giant ice ball that was created in a vacuum, and, therefore, made several explosions as the particles inside expanded and the ball disintegrated.

    The Russian scientists base their theory on the fact on the absence of any meteorite material in the area, no rock fragments, or no impact areas that would create a crater.

    Gladysheva said part of the comet’s tail entered the Earth’s ionosphere at more than 80 kilometers above ground, which is an intense area of atmospheric electricity. She said a major blast occurred over the epicenter at an altitude of 7-10 kilometers above the Earth’s surface. The significance of the blast was due to the overly charged ions and differences in the positive and negative poles in the comet and Earth.

    Romeiko said the ice ball that formed around the comet’s dust particles before striking Earth would explain the absence of a crater or meteorite particles. The particles from the comet would be very minute and could most likely be found in the lower layers of peat moss in the area, which is frozen in permafrost.

    101 YEARS OF AN UNSOLVED MYSTERY

    In separate conversations with the researchers during the expedition into the Tunguska epicenter, they all shared the same idea that the mystery will never be solved because scientists with their own theories and hypotheses will never agree on one single explanation. In regard to this, Romeiko said: “No one will back down on a theory that he has defended his entire life because that would mean failure.”

    Although the researchers returned without any substantial explanations for the event, they plan on returning to Tunguska to continue their research and prove their theories. Serra said there would be interest in the Tunguska Event far into the future, because the best scientists from around the world have been there and no one has come up with an explanation, which scientists simply cannot accept.

    When the Italian and American research group left the epicenter, a new group of Russian “scientists” arrived. One of the group members said that she had worked with a psychic to identify which swamp a UFO had collided into in 1908.

    Upon returning to the town of Vanavara, some 65 kilometers to the South of the epicenter, the Tunguska Reserve director, Ludmila Logunova, said that they know where the meteorite is located, but if they reveal its location, people would stop visiting the region.

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    "Dead Alien" found in Siberia

    Post  Sujoy on Sat May 04, 2013 4:51 am



    http://video.in.msn.com/watch/video/dead-alien-found-in-russia/1ju6c2l9a

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    Post  Regular on Sat May 04, 2013 5:19 am

    Sujoy wrote:

    http://video.in.msn.com/watch/video/dead-alien-found-in-russia/1ju6c2l9a
    Probably landed in bad neighborhood

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    Post  George1 on Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:01 pm

    Remains of Giant Armored Sea Creature Discovered in Morocco



    The newly-discovered fossilized remains of a giant arthropod species from the Palaeozoic era have shed light on the subsequent evolution of present-day arthropods such as crabs, scorpions and spiders.

    The remains of a giant sea creature from a species which dates back 480 million years, measuring more than two meters in length, have been discovered by paleontologists in southeastern Morocco, making it one of the largest arthropods ever identified, and the largest animal on earth at the time it lived.

    Peter Van Roy, co-author of a paper in the journal Nature describing the animal, explained that the researchers decided to name the species Aegirocassis benmoulae. The name Aegir is taken from the ruler of the seas in Norse mythology, and reflects "the fact it would have been unassailable by any other creature," while cassis means helmet in Latin; additionally it was named benmoulae after its discoverer, Mohamed Ben Moula.

    The creature lived during the almost 45 million year Ordovician Period, best known for its diverse marine invertebrates. During this time period, the area north of the tropics was almost entirely covered by ocean. The fossil fragments were discovered in the Early Ordovician Fezouata Biota north of Zagora, which has become one of the world's most important sources of conserved marine fossils since the first discoveries were made some 12 years ago.

    According to the Yale University researchers, studying the fossils sheds light on the early evolution and development of arthropod limbs into the double-branched form characteristic of the legs of modern arthropods, including insects, spiders, centipedes, shrimp, and crayfish.

    "Aegirocassis is a truly remarkable looking creature," Yale University paleontologist Derek Briggs, co-author of the Nature paper, told the press. "We were excited to discover that it shows features that have not been observed in older Cambrian anomalocaridids — not one but two sets of swimming flaps along the trunk, representing a stage in the evolution of the two-branched limb, characteristic of modern arthropods such as shrimps."

    Despite its imposing size, the researchers say that Aegirocassis benmoulae was a filter feeder rather than a predator, in contrast to almost all other anomalocaridids, the group of arthropods to which the new creature belongs. Instead, it had an intricate filter-feeding apparatus with which it sifted plankton while swimming.

    "Giant filter-feeding sharks and whales arose at the time of a major plankton radiation, and Aegirocassis represents a much, much older example of this — apparently overarching — trend," said Van Roy, who explained that the new finding "once and for all resolves the debate on where anomalocaridids belong in the arthropod tree, and clears up one of the most problematic aspects of their anatomy."

    Arthropods make up over three-fourths of all currently known living and fossil organisms, with more than one million documented species, and are the most morphologically diverse animal group on Earth. The true number of their species remains unknown; conservative estimates put the number of arthropod species in tropical forests alone at 6 to 9 million species.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/news/20150312/1019385807.html#ixzz3UIGse4R8

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    Post  George1 on Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:03 pm

    Researchers Find Remains Alleged to be Miguel Cervantes After 352 Years



    Researchers in Madrid found remains which they believe may have belonged to author Miguel Cervantes and his wife, which have been lost for over 350 years.

    Researchers announced on Thursday that they found two skeletons that could belong to the renowned author of "Don Quixote," Miguel Cervantes, and his wife, Catalina de Salazar.

    The discovery was made at the Convent of the Barefoot Trinitarians in Madrid, in a crypt which had the initials "MC" inscribed on it. Miguel Cervantes' bones originally went missing in 1673 when the convent was rebuilt.

    The find coincides with the 400th anniversary of the publication of the second volume of "Don Quixote."

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    Post  George1 on Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:20 pm

    Crazy Friday: Spring Equinox, Solar Eclipse & Supermoon



    Making for a rare and unique celestial experience, Friday will see the spring equinox coincide with the solar eclipse and the Supermoon.

    As swathes of Europe prepare for a spectacular total solar eclipse on March 20th, the day promises to make for an even more unique experience, as two other celestial events will occur – the Supermoon and the spring equinox.

    A solar eclipse occurs when the sun and the moon line up, so that the latter becomes obscured by the former. The event is highly anticipated in parts of Europe, particularly in the UK, as the last time the country had seen an eclipse was on August 11, 1999. Sunlight blocked by the moon’s shadow will vary across different places, with parts of the UK expecting 98% coverage, and Faroe Islands expecting a total coverage at 100%.

    There are different types of solar eclipses – total, partial, or annular. The upcoming eclipse will be a total solar eclipse, whereby the disk of the sun will be fully obscured by the moon. This is where the Supermoon comes in.

    A Supermoon, sometimes referred to as a perigee moon, is when the full or new moon is at its closest point to Earth, making it appear larger than usual. This allows for the total eclipse, as the apparent size of the moon will be large enough to completely obscure the disk of the sun.

    There are between three and six Supermoons a year, and they are more common than total eclipses. Three more Supermoons are expected after March 20th, with the next one coming in August.

    The third celestial event, the equinox, occurs twice a year when the Earth’s axis is perpendicular to the sun’s rays. On those two days, the day and night will have equal duration, and they fall midway between the longest and shortest days of the year. After the spring equinox, the Earth’s axis tips over, making the days longer in the Northern hemisphere.

    While the spring equinox will have no impact on the other two celestial events, it is extremely rare for all three to fall on the same day. The next times the spring equinox is expected to coincide with a solar eclipse will be in 2053 and 2072.

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    First attempt at extracting nucleus from mammoth cell for cloning fails

    Some scientists believe that extraction of the nucleus from a dead cell is a possibility, but no researcher has succeeded in doing this so far



    YAKUTSK, March 17. /TASS/. The first attempt at extracting the nucleus of an intact dead cell of a mammoth, unearthed in Yakutia, with the aim of cloning the prehistoric animal has failed, the chief of the Sooam Biotech Research Foundation, Dr. Hwang Woo Sul, of South Korea, has told TASS.

    "We have identified intact cells in the skin of the Malolyakhov Mammoth, discovered in Yakutia in 2013. But during an attempt to extract the nucleus they were destroyed. Here, in Yakutia we shall take more samples for further research. We shall keep trying to extract the cell’s nuclei with a view to cloning a mammoth," Dr. Hwang said.

    Some scientists believe that theoretically the extraction of the nucleus from a dead cell is a possibility, but no researcher has succeeded in doing this so far.

    Further research of mammoth cells will be held in cooperation with the Yakutia-based North-Eastern Federal University, where Russia’s first-ever centre for studying the DNAs of mammoth and other fossil species opened on Tuesday.

    "The University has all required know-hows and knowledge for further research into mammoth cells," Dr. Hwan said.

    The chief of the Museum of the Mammoth at the North Eastern Federal University, Semyon Grigoriev, believes that it may take about three years to extract the nucleus from a mammoth’s cell.

    "The research done in South Korea is very important to us. But more complex work is ahead for us. It may last two or three years," he said.

    Yakutsk keeps some unique paleontological finds, still to be studied at the just-unveiled centre: the remains of a fossil horse, a pre-historic dog, an ancient bison and its baby. More paleonthololgical expeditions will be arranged for in the near future.

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    Russian Archeologists Unearth 'White Walls' of Ancient Memphis

    The Head of the Russian archeological expedition Galina Belova expressed hope that "other archeological witnesses of this early period of Ancient Egypt’s history dated back to nearly 3200 B.C." will be discovered.

    A team of Russian archeologists working in Saqqara near Egypt’s Cairo discovered the remains of the so-called "The White Wall" of the ancient Egyptian capital Memphis. Its Ancient Egyptian name was Inbu-Hedj which is translated as "The White Walls."

    According to Egyptian Antiquities Minister Mamdouh al-Damati, the finding of the great historic site was made near the town of Mit Rahina, 20 kilometers south of Cairo and near Saqqara which was the necropolis of Memphis.

    In addition to the parts of the wall, well-preserved remains of stoves and bronzes were found.

    "We hope this finding will enhance our knowledge of one the most important cities of Ancient Egypt. Memphis played a significant political, religious and economic role in the history of the country. One of its names was Inbu-Hedj, or the White Walls," the minister said.

    The Head of the Russian archeological expedition Galina Belova, in her turn, explained that now scientists are finishing excavation on the site and will search for other parts of the wall in the coming days. She also expressed hope that "other archeological witnesses of this early period of Ancient Egypt’s history dated back to nearly 3200 B.C." will be discovered.

    Egyptian authorities are taking efforts to maintain free and secure conditions for Russian archeologists on the site. The tourist police and Giza security office have boosted security measures. The administration is helping clear the excavation site of modern constructions.

    Memphis holds a special place in the history of Ancient Egypt and is believed to the oldest capital of Egypt. The city was founded more than 5,200 years ago by the pharaoh Menes. Memphis was capital of Egypt during the period of the Old Kingdom. Now it is listed as a world historic heritage site.

    Located south of Cairo, Saqqara and Mit Rahina have already delivered several important archeological findings. Among them are the stepped pyramid of Djoser and the famous statue of Ramses. Meanwhile, Egyptian and foreign archeological teams continue their work in the area in a bid to uncover new unique monuments.

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    Post  Regular on Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:52 pm

    Well, weird thing happened month ago.
    I slept longer than I used to and I usually don't dream at all, but I was woken up by a bad dream. It was 10 in the morning. I told my wife that I dreamt of my best friend getting in the car accident and going to jail for that. And we had a laugh and I forgot about it so I went to do my things. After I finished my business I decided to call my friend as it was always him calling me. When I called him his relative answered the phone. Well You can guess the rest. Shit was unreal I even thought my wife told him about the dream and they were pulling a prank so I didn't believe it. But yeah, tried to joke about it and made myself look like a fool. In the mean time the lucky couple was fighting for their life in ER.
    Now even the jail bit is a real thing too.

    I had a dream 1 hour after this happened so no I can't see the future and I am shit at guessing lucky numbers.
    I don't believe in weird shit. Retrocasuality confirmed? Very Happy
    Then I never had a dream of my own accident for fuck sake:D

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    Post  Werewolf on Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:52 am

    Regular wrote:Well, weird thing happened month ago.
    I slept longer than I used to and I usually don't dream at all, but I was woken up by a bad dream. It was 10 in the morning. I told my wife that I dreamt of my best friend getting in the car accident and going to jail for that. And we had a laugh and I forgot about it so I went to do my things. After I finished my business I decided to call my friend as it was always him calling me. When I called him his relative answered the phone. Well You can guess the rest. Shit was unreal I even thought my wife told him about the dream and they were pulling a prank so I didn't believe it. But yeah, tried to joke about it and made myself look like a fool. In the mean time the lucky couple was fighting for their life in ER.
    Now even the jail bit is a real thing too.

    I had a dream 1 hour after this happened so no I can't see the future and I am shit at guessing lucky numbers.
    I don't believe in weird shit. Retrocasuality confirmed? Very Happy
    Then I never had a dream of my own accident for fuck sake:D

    You and your wife had a laugh when you told her about your friend going to jail for a car accident in your dream?

    Wierd reason to laugh i would say.

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    Post  Regular on Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:42 am

    Well accident in the dream was nothing like it was in reality first of all. No blood, no nothing. But still it woke me up. My wife started to wind me up about me dreaming other men, gay jokes as they annoy the hell out of me and etc. She is the joker in the family, everytime I try to joke it's always ends up inappropriate. Just like I did very same day when my friend was in ER fighting for his life and I was trying to wind up his relative, as I couldn't believe that it really happened. I said ok, when he wakes out of ekhm "coma" ask him if he wants to go to the gym as it closes early on saturday. His relative said something inaudible, hang up and her husband called me 10 minutes later and he explained everything.
    Me and my wife didn't tell anyone about the dream, it doesn't sit well with us as we are atheists and we don't believe in anything paranormal.

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    Post  flamming_python on Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:15 am

    Regular wrote:Well accident in the dream was nothing like it was in reality first of all. No blood, no nothing. But still it woke me up. My wife started to wind me up about me dreaming other men, gay jokes as they annoy  the hell out of me and etc. She is the joker in the family, everytime I try to joke it's always ends up inappropriate. Just like I did very same day when my friend was in ER fighting for his life and I was trying to wind up his relative, as I couldn't believe that it really happened. I said ok, when he wakes out of ekhm "coma" ask him if he wants to go to the gym as it closes early on saturday. His relative said something inaudible, hang up and her husband called me 10 minutes later and he explained everything.
    Me and my wife didn't tell anyone about the dream, it doesn't sit well with us as we are atheists and we don't believe in anything paranormal.

    A bizarre coincidence, nothing more.

    If such a premonition happens twice in a row then you'll know you're being screwed by the paranormal though.

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    Post  kvs on Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:18 pm

    We think our science knowledge is almost absolute but we don't know jack in many areas. It has always been this way and we laugh at those
    "fools" in the past. One such area is macroscopic quantum mechanical effects. There is this facile assumption that at scales bigger than
    the De Broglie wavelength we are in the deterministic classical limit. Yet there is such a thing as quantum entanglement and it does not
    care about the De Broglie wavelength and in fact can act at arbitrary distances. In my view, you can call me a loon, whatever, quantum
    entanglement affects people's brains. But it does not give them telepathy or any other systematic "ability". So I think your dream
    is not random noise but sporadic remote information transfer due to a quantum mechanical effect. As I said, we do not understand
    the physics to be able to test this in a lab in any rational way. The effect could be modulated by processes between the two
    entangling systems. Sort of like being able to hear remote radio stations under certain weather conditions. So getting some volunteers
    to "communicate" this way in some study could produce 100% negative results, which would be useless results because all the variables
    are not being considered.

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    Post  collegeboy16 on Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:32 pm

    maybe Regular is a descendant of Yuri? What a Face

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    Post  kvs on Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:00 pm



    This Uri?

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    Another little detail is that this information exchange occurs during sleep. This is when the conscious brain is off and
    neural network noise is the dominant state of activity. Weak signals would be most likely to be "detected" at this stage
    since the conscious brain activity would bury them completely. Dreams appear to be noise induced but at the same
    time reflect the preoccupations of the individual (including subconscious ones).

    Our consciousness is a quantum mechanical phenomenon and not clockwork deterministic function. People should not fob off
    bizarre experiences as being due to "simple explanations". Occam's razor is an abused ansatz. Sometimes complexity is
    important and you can't even apply this ansatz if you do not know which processes are involved. Invoking Occam's razor has become
    like belief that "the truth is somewhere in between". Yeah, calling someone a pedophile implies that the accusation is partly
    right regardless of the facts.

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    Post  Airbornewolf on Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:31 pm

    or another incident, JAL flight 1628. an Japan 747 being followed by an UFO and reporting it to ATC. ATC subsequently informs the U.S airforce that at first cant see it. and the contact with JAL 1628 gets distorted. JAL 1628 describes the object "the size of 4 carriers".

    ATC contacts the airforce, but they confirm back to the ATC they have no millitary aircraft up there nor register anything on Radar.

    JAL 1628 requests an flight correction to get away from the object.

    ATC orders JAL 1628 to turn 360 degrees, and authorises any evasive manouvres and deviations deemed necessary to evade.

    as JAL 1628 deviates and begins to turn, Airforce Radar in Alaska pick up the UFO following JAL 1628 and code it "flight size 2". contacting ATC that they have spotted another radar contact, that JAL 1628 is being followed "flight size 2" meaning "possible hostile intent". ATC requests jet fighters to be scrambled to intercept but eventually never where.

    JAL 1628 made it safely to its destination.

    i looked it up and found an partial recording of the incident between ATC, Airforce and JAL 1628. its the first part in the vid.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHHsbGnAuJM


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    Vegan T.Rex: Scientists Discover Weird 'Platypus' Dinosaur in Chile


    Right jaw and teeth of the Chilesaurus diegosuarezi is shown in this undated handout photo provided by the University of Birmingham in Birmingham, Alabama on April 27, 2015

    Paleontologists from the University of Birmingham and other institutions have discovered a so-called "platypus" dinosaur in Chile.

    The so-called "platypus" dinosaur was discovered in Chile by paleontologists from the University of Birmingham and other institutions, who dubbed it Chilesaurus diegosuarezi, according to the findings they published in the journal Nature.

    Despite the fact that Chilesaurus was closely related to the notorious carnivore Tyrannosaurus rex, scientists believe that the "platypus" dinosaur could have grazed on plants.

    "Chilesaurus can be considered a 'platypus' dinosaur because different parts of its body resemble those of other dinosaur groups due to mosaic convergent evolution," Martín Ezcurra of the University of Birmingham explained.

    Chilesaurus is thought to have had a proportionally small skull and hands with two fingers like Tyrannosaurus rex; at the same time, it had feet that were more like those of primitive long-neck dinosaurs.

    According to paleontologists, the "platypus" dinosaur was on average the size of a turkey, but some isolated bones indicate that the maximum size of Chilesaurus was about three meters long.

    Martín Ezcurra, for his part, stressed the importance of the discovery.

    "Chilesaurus shows how much data is still completely unknown about the early diversification of major dinosaur groups. This study will force paleontologists to take more care in the future in the identification of fragmentary or isolated dinosaur bones. It comes as false relationship; evidence may arise because of cases of convergent evolution, such as that present in Chilesaurus," he said.

    Chilesaurus diegosuarezi was named after a seven-year-old Chilean boy, Diego Suárez, who discovered the dinosaur fossil at the Toqui Formation in Aysén, south of Chilean Patagonia.

    The boy was reportedly with his geologist parents, who were exploring rocks in order to shed more light on the formation of the Andes mountain range.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/art_living/20150428/1021463425.html#ixzz3YaiwhgY7

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    Post  George1 on Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:28 am

    Three Supersized Earths Spotted Orbiting Nearby Star



    The new Automated Planet Finder telescope, dedicated to finding super-Earths and Earth-size exoplanets, has helped researchers discover planets orbiting star HD 7924.

    A team of astronomers has discovered three new planets orbiting a star 54 light-years away, using a ground-based robotic telescope which has enabled the scientists to speed up their search for small planets in the Sun's immediate celestial neighborhood.

    "The three planets are unlike anything in our solar system, with masses seven to eight times the mass of Earth and orbits very close to their host star," said graduate student Lauren Weiss, leader of the team at UC Berkeley, which works together with astronomers at the Universities of Hawaii, Tennessee State and University of California Observatories on the project to survey super-Earth planets orbiting nearby stars.

    All the planets orbit their star at a distance closer than Mercury orbits the sun, and complete their orbits in just five, 15 and 24 days.

    The first evidence of planets orbiting HD 7924 was found in 2009 by the W.M Keck Observatory in Hawaii, and measurements taken by the Automated Planet Finder [APF] Telescope at Lick Observatory in California validated their existence.

    The exoplanets, which are invisible to the naked eye due to their distance and are comparatively dim next to their host stars, were detected using the Doppler technique to detect the wobble of star HD 7924 as the planets orbited and pulled on it gravitationally. Doppler spectroscopy, or the 'wobble method,' detects the Doppler shift of the light coming from the star to deduce the planet's mass and orbit, a technique which has been used to find hundreds of exoplanets.

    This picture shows the Automated Planet Finder [APF] at Lick Observatory, which has been collecting measurements since January 2014 in the search for Earth-sized planets around nearby stars.

    The astronomers wrote software to enable the APF telescope to search for planets without a human in control, said Benjamin 'BJ' Fulton, a graduate student at the University of Hawaii at Manoa, having "initially used the APF like a regular telescope, staying up all night searching star to star."

    Fulton explained that the robotic observations are the start of a two-year project to systematically survey for super-Earth planets orbiting nearby stars.

    "When the survey is complete, we will have a census of small planets orbiting sun-like stars within approximately 100 light-years of Earth," he said.

    Andrew Howard, a professor of astronomy at the University of Hawaii, said the level of automation allowed by the robotic observation "is a game-changer in astronomy," and akin to "owning a driverless car that goes planet-shopping."

    The goal of the AFP, say the researchers, is to find small planets orbiting the nearest stars, some of which might have temperatures and surface conditions suitable for life.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/environment/20150429/1021514119.html#ixzz3YhF6z0kG

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    One mystery in America is Bigfoot, or Sasquatch, believed in and known by different names by American Indians. Some say he is harmful, others say he comes to their aid. They have a name for him, which I can't remember tonight, maybe "big brother", or "elder brother", no, something else....when they want to talk about him, but not call him by name, and usually won't talk about him after dark. "Uncle Harry", I think...is the name used.

    Some (American Indians) say, if they see him, it's like a protection, or a warning. (My memory is sketchy.)
    One of my cousins said she and another cousin saw one cross a road in front of their car headlights, way back in the 1950's, in the area of Texas where I grew up. Which even today is a mostly unpopulated County. It's a land area of about 914.29 square miles with about only 3,000 persons in the entire County.

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    Post  George1 on Tue May 12, 2015 8:49 am

    Cowboy's daughter wrote:One mystery in America is Bigfoot, or Sasquatch, believed in and known by different names by American Indians. Some say he is harmful, others say he comes to their aid. They have a name for him, which I can't remember tonight, maybe "big brother", or "elder brother", no, something else....when they want to talk about him, but not call him by name, and usually won't talk about him after dark. "Uncle Harry", I think...is the name used.

    Some (American Indians) say, if they see him, it's like a protection, or a warning. (My memory is sketchy.)
    One of my cousins said she and another cousin saw one cross a road in front of their car headlights, way back in the 1950's, in the area of Texas where I grew up. Which even today is a mostly unpopulated County. It's a land area of about 914.29 square miles with about only 3,000 persons in the entire County.


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    Post  Werewolf on Tue May 12, 2015 8:58 am

    El chupacabra?

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    Post  collegeboy16 on Tue May 12, 2015 9:06 am

    women... how do they work?

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    collegeboy16 wrote:women... how do they work?

    A guy I used to know would say: "To understand women, you have to be one!" Very Happy

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    Post  Werewolf on Tue May 12, 2015 9:56 am

    Cowboy's daughter wrote:
    collegeboy16 wrote:women... how do they work?

    A guy I used to know would say: "To understand women, you have to be one!" Very Happy

    Looking at the b*tch fights between women one could come to the conclusion that women do not understand each other either.

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