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    Re: United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (NAF)

    Post  franco on Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:06 pm

    Milkavkaz's view on the NAF or VSN;

    http://www.milkavkaz.net/2016/07/vooruzhennye-sily-dnr-i-lnr-boevoj-i-chislennyj-sostav.html

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    Re: United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (NAF)

    Post  George1 on Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:26 am

    Combat training Marines DPP

    An interesting photo essay of the Russian Federal Agency News (FAN) of military training on the coast of the Azov Sea Marine Force (People's Militia) of the Donetsk People's Republic - 9th individual Mariupol-Khingansky special (assault) Marine Regiment (dislocation in Novoazovsk). The regiment was formed in February 2016 by renaming the 9th separate motorized rifle regiment of the DPP forces.











    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2082023.html


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    Re: United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (NAF)

    Post  Khepesh on Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:31 am

    Formation name change. In Lugansk the 2nd Guards Motorised Brigade has been given title Hero of the Soviet Union Kliment Efromovich Voroshilov so likely it will now be known simply as Voroshilov brigade. In Soviet times Lugansk was Voroshilovgrad in his honor as he was a native. btw, Donetsk was Stalino back in the days, but I don't think we will see any "Stalin brigade", well, not yet..... http://www.novorosinform.org/news/60081

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    Re: United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (NAF)

    Post  Khepesh on Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:40 pm

    Major-General Alexander Serkeevich Nemogai, commander of "Kalmius" brigade and Hero of DNR, has died of a stroke.

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    Re: United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (NAF)

    Post  franco on Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:31 am

    T-72's in use with the "Diesel" separate Tank BTG of the Donetsk Militia;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2141978.html

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    Re: United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (NAF)

    Post  Khepesh on Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:11 pm

    Compilation video of previously unreleased material of various VSN formations exercising on territory of DNR.

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    Re: United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (NAF)

    Post  Khepesh on Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:10 pm

    New commander of "Sparta" will be "Vokha", who had been Motorola's deputy.


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    Re: United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (NAF)

    Post  KiloGolf on Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:47 pm

    Khepesh wrote:Compilation video of previously unreleased material of various VSN formations exercising on territory of DNR.

    Just a few seconds (+their track record) and it shows how Eastern bloc kit if used by a competent force can do wonders, even without an ''air force'', ''air support'', etc. SAA needs to take notes, or seems to have done recently.

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    Re: United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (NAF)

    Post  George1 on Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:22 pm

    New markings



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    Re: United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (NAF)

    Post  George1 on Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:21 am

    The organizational structure of the armed forces of the DPR and LPR





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    Re: United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (NAF)

    Post  Ispan on Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:44 pm

    Prizrak international unit is disbanded

    https://dninews.com/article/prizrak-interunit-suspends-military-activities-donbass

    It's bullshit that the war is winding down. From previous reports, it seems to me that the militias are being "militarized" and put under Russian command. No place for foreign volunteers.

    This is a step towards full scale military operations.

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    Re: United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (NAF)

    Post  medo on Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:22 pm

    Ispan wrote:Prizrak international unit is disbanded

    https://dninews.com/article/prizrak-interunit-suspends-military-activities-donbass

    It's bullshit that the war is winding down. From previous reports, it seems to me that the militias are being "militarized" and put under Russian command. No place for foreign volunteers.

    This is a step towards full scale military operations.

    Only logical step. DNR and LNR are becoming full independent states with regular state armies. They are not failed states like Somalia or Libya, so there is no place for different "private" militias. Novorussian army is actually more professional regular state army than Ukrainian army.

    I have no doubt, that Novorussian army (Novorussia is frozen because of Minsk agreement) is ready for full scale military operation and is waiting it. Only thing is, that Novorussia want, that Ukropistan start the war. On the other side Ukropitecs army is very afraid of Novorussian army and I doubt they will dare to start full war.

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    Re: United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (NAF)

    Post  par far on Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:06 pm

    medo wrote:
    Ispan wrote:Prizrak international unit is disbanded

    https://dninews.com/article/prizrak-interunit-suspends-military-activities-donbass

    It's bullshit that the war is winding down. From previous reports, it seems to me that the militias are being "militarized" and put under Russian command. No place for foreign volunteers.

    This is a step towards full scale military operations.

    Only logical step. DNR and LNR are becoming full independent states with regular state armies. They are not failed states like Somalia or Libya, so there is no place for different "private" militias. Novorussian army is actually more professional regular state army than Ukrainian army.


    I have no doubt, that Novorussian army (Novorussia is frozen because of Minsk agreement) is ready for full scale military operation and is waiting it. Only thing is, that Novorussia want, that Ukropistan start the war. On the other side Ukropitecs army is very afraid of Novorussian army and I doubt they will dare to start full war.


    Very well said, if DNR and LNR, want to become full independent states and if they want to be taken seriously, than they need a regular armed forces and not militias.

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    Re: United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (NAF)

    Post  Ispan on Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:31 pm

    A week ago I was surprised to see a photo of an Ukrainian combatant with a customized AKM, but I took it to be supplied by the US.

    This photo was posted at Chervonets, militia from the LNR



    Front row left, that's not even an AKM, it's an old AK-47

    The guy in the middle carries another 47 with a BG grenade launcher attached.

    Assuming this photo is recent and from this winter, and not from 2014-2015 Very surprised that these old arms would appear now, as the mix of calibers is bad from the logistics point of view and I think most people would prefer the newer AK-74 as the ammo is lighter and is more precise.

    It's a bit worrisome to see these old weapons being used. It means that after 2 years of war, many rifles have been lost and there are no longer rifles for everybody. That applies to both sides, it does not make sense either for the Ukrops to use the old 7.62 mm Kalashnikov.

    On the other side these people, by they varied ages and clothing, and counting two women, are most probably from a volunteer territorial battallion, the units that hold the line while regular army is kept in reserve. Another more encouraging interpretation is that there are not enough modern rifles for everybody because the army has grown, and militia units have to make do with what's available.

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    Re: United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (NAF)

    Post  Militarov on Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:16 pm

    Ispan wrote:Front row left, that's not even an AKM, it's an old AK-47

    "Old AK-47" - such thing does not exist, only about 100 rifles with such designation were ever built to my knowledge, it entered service as "AK" without numerical nomenclature. Lets be precise and not use Murican approach where everything with curved magazine is called "AK 47".

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    Re: United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (NAF)

    Post  Ispan on Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:23 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    "Old AK-47" - such thing does not exist, only about 100 rifles with such designation were ever built to my knowledge, it entered service as "AK" without numerical nomenclature. Lets be precise and not use Murican approach where everything with curved magazine is called "AK 47".

    Thanks, but not being Russian, I didn't know that, and the term AK-47 is firmly rooted after decades. Just AK could lead to confusion, so you need to use the year numbers. It's curious anyway that these are old AKs, and not the AKMs as would be expected.

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    Re: United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (NAF)

    Post  GarryB on Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:20 am

    At combat ranges the difference in performance would not be that significant, so if, as you say, they don't have abundant sources of firearms then older models being used can be expected.

    The older heavier rounds are less affected by barriers between the shooter and the target.

    In terms of logistics the 7.62 x 39mm should be pretty abundant in the region...


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    Re: United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (NAF)

    Post  eehnie on Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:07 pm

    The oldest weapons are to be used while are still useful. If there is a need of using weapons, the oldest useful weapons habitually go first. This is part of a good management of the resources.

    Their use not necessarily means shortage of other more modern weapons.

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    Re: United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (NAF)

    Post  franco on Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:11 pm

    List of equipment with vehicle numbers from the NAF Motor Rifle brigades and regiments;

    http://mishaxaxa.livejournal.com/15244.html

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    Post  eehnie on Sun Feb 05, 2017 4:40 am

    franco wrote:List of equipment with vehicle numbers from the NAF Motor Rifle brigades and regiments;

    http://mishaxaxa.livejournal.com/15244.html

    It is very interesting.

    In some cases, like the BMP-2, BTR-70 and 2S9, the number is exactly the expected after the analisys of the data offered by lostarmour.info.
    In the case of the 2S1, T-72, BTR-80, MT-LB, BMP-1 and T-64 is higher, but it is necessary to take into account also the material captured in Crimea before to talk about supplies of different origin.
    Also there are some types of weapons that are not listed, like the GMZ-3, 2S19, 2S5, MT-T, BM-27, 2S3, BRDM-2, BMD-1, BTR-60 and T-55 (engineering variant), but Novorussia should have some unit captured from Ukraine (less than 10 in every case except the BRDM-2).

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    Post  franco on Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:30 pm

    eehnie wrote:
    franco wrote:List of equipment with vehicle numbers from the NAF Motor Rifle brigades and regiments;

    http://mishaxaxa.livejournal.com/15244.html

    It is very interesting.

    In some cases, like the BMP-2, BTR-70 and 2S9, the number is exactly the expected after the analisys of the data offered by lostarmour.info.
    In the case of the 2S1, T-72, BTR-80, MT-LB, BMP-1 and T-64 is higher, but it is necessary to take into account also the material captured in Crimea before to talk about supplies of different origin.
    Also there are some types of weapons that are not listed, like the GMZ-3, 2S19, 2S5, MT-T, BM-27, 2S3, BRDM-2, BMD-1, BTR-60 and T-55 (engineering variant), but Novorussia should have some unit captured from Ukraine (less than 10 in every case except the BRDM-2).

    There are two artillery brigades not listed which hold all the heavy artillery and MRLS along with 2 reconnaissance battalions also not listed.

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    Post  eehnie on Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:25 pm

    franco wrote:
    eehnie wrote:
    franco wrote:List of equipment with vehicle numbers from the NAF Motor Rifle brigades and regiments;

    http://mishaxaxa.livejournal.com/15244.html

    It is very interesting.

    In some cases, like the BMP-2, BTR-70 and 2S9, the number is exactly the expected after the analisys of the data offered by lostarmour.info.
    In the case of the 2S1, T-72, BTR-80, MT-LB, BMP-1 and T-64 is higher, but it is necessary to take into account also the material captured in Crimea before to talk about supplies of different origin.
    Also there are some types of weapons that are not listed, like the GMZ-3, 2S19, 2S5, MT-T, BM-27, 2S3, BRDM-2, BMD-1, BTR-60 and T-55 (engineering variant), but Novorussia should have some unit captured from Ukraine (less than 10 in every case except the BRDM-2).

    There are two artillery brigades not listed which hold all the heavy artillery and MRLS along with 2 reconnaissance battalions also not listed.

    It makes sense. I expect big amounts of heavy towed artillery in Novorussia.

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    Re: United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (NAF)

    Post  George1 on Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:05 pm

    LPR forces captured RQ-11B Raven UAV used by Ukraine military



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    Re: United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (NAF)

    Post  Militarov on Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:43 pm

    George1 wrote:LPR forces captured RQ-11B Raven UAV used by Ukraine military


    Shame its variant without Gimbal.

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