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    miketheterrible

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    Re: Venezuela crisis

    Post  miketheterrible on Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:26 pm

    Apparently the guy involved was some traitor who defected to the US a few years ago. Guess he came back with some citizens who all dressed up as military and attacked a base. They were quickly quelled but the military is now on patrol with even tanks.
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    Re: Venezuela crisis

    Post  kvs on Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:32 pm

    George1 wrote:well i dont support any kind of coup but i dont consider Maduro's Assembly election was sth constitutional

    Does playing air apply under conditions of foreign meddling to instigate regime change. I consider emergency measures to be legitimate
    and constitutions are much like used toilet paper in spite of all the reverence they get.

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    Re: Venezuela crisis

    Post  ATLASCUB on Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:35 pm

    From an intelligence perspective we have watched in my seven months in office a continued deterioration. Maduro is continuing to assert more power, inflict more pain on the people of Venezuela, you can see the beginning of fissures among various groups. What I believe the president is trying to accomplish this week was to give the Venezuelan people hope and opportunity to create a situation where democracy can be restored. The intelligence makes very clear that the Maduro regime continues to put snipers in towers and do things that are horrible, repressive and the American policy is to work with our Latin American partners to try and restore democracy.

    Venezuela could very much become a risk for the United States of America. The Cubans are there; the Russians are there, the Iranians, Hezbollah are there. This is something that has a risk of getting to a very very bad place, so America needs to take this very seriously.”

    Of course it's. Latin American states breaking away from the plantation is a threat to American hegemony. Russian/Chinese companies along with Venezuela's PDVSA controlling Venezuela's energy business is a threat to the petro-dollar as well. Rosneft expansion is a MAJOR threat to Exxon too since its tentacles are far reaching now....plus a great many things in the realm of geopolitics and economics when it comes to Venezuela. The new wave of neoliberals in Brazil/Argentina won't last more than a decade tops and everyone knows it. It's do or die now...

    CIA Director Mike Pompeo: Iran, Hezbollah Are in Venezuela

    As for snipers in buildings....where have I seen that before?

    I like this new CIA head. He talks a lot and projects a lot with his comments...

    Everyone is in Venezuela......including America's vassel states in the region (extensive list)/Europe (Spain/France/Germany)/Middle-East=Israel/Saudi Arabia.

    Edit: more on RT's article:

    We are very hopeful that there can be a transition in Venezuela and we the CIA is doing its best to understand the dynamic there, so that we can communicate to our State Department and to others.”

    Hehe...
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    Re: Venezuela crisis

    Post  nomadski on Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:53 pm

    Make America great again . Like great Britania . The hemmpire . I still get goose pimply , thinking about the greatness of the great great British ( American ) hemmpire ! Quick get me an excuse ! A pretext . I need another medal . And you need your profits . What? There isn't one ? Don't be stupid . There is always a pretext . Just say that guy over there , what's his name , got bad fashion sense . Needs a makeover . Remember make America great again ........

    It is a habitual thing . The culture of imperialism , can not be negotiated with . It is not amenable to dialogue . It will not be satisfied with less . It will absolutely not stop . Until he has it all . Or nothing . Like a habitual gambler in Las Vegas casino .

    So they want to start a war with Korea and Venezuela and China and Iran and .........simultaneously ? What a wonderful idea . But oooops ! They know now ! They may not attack simultaneously . Darned ! We may just have to make sure that they do . Yes you need balls for this . But what is the alternative ? Being picked off one by one ? I think Kim and ....and ....and ........need to see each other . Arrange for a musketeer pact . One for all ........and you know the rest . A simultaneous defence against the yank . Help make America great again . The greatest fail in the world . Now where is that phone ? .........

    The yanks pick on people . One by one . At a time of weakness . Internal political turmoil . An opportunity . They then get the other bullies , their mates ( NATO allies ) to join in . To beat up on the little guy . Why don't we make a military defence pact ? Of all the non aligned nations . Give it a snazzy name .Like : NAMTO ! The non aligned military treaty organisations .

    Not everyone has nukes to deter yanks . So yanks simply use superior conventional forces to bully smaller nations . But pooling resources and acting together . Will nullify their advantage . Good on Venezuela to carry out defensive maneuvers . Perhaps others can join in and carry out simultaneous maneuvers too !


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    SOUTHCOM "Masterstroke" - Plan to Overthrow the Venezuelan Dictatorship.

    Post  ATLASCUB on Tue May 15, 2018 9:40 pm

    Document (scroll down): http://www.portalalba.org/index.php/areas/internacional-geopolitica/imperialismo/16887-el-momento-ha-llegado-el-plan-unitas-lix-seria-el-golpe-final-contra-venezuela

    Write up: https://libya360.wordpress.com/2018/05/13/masterstroke-the-us-plan-to-overthrow-the-venezuelan-government/

    One of many they've drafted...CIA/State Dept have the actual "masterstroke" (different obv) carrying out most of what they actually can along the same lines - same objective.

    The opinion of the admiral and his cohorts who helped him draft it are always a good read since the ones drafted by CIA analyst are just as bad and are actually acted upon.

    For those that are still blind to the fact of what's actually going on and fall for simplistic media narratives.

    One thing to point out is that the military option is not too different from the one applied to Syria. Although I still think a military option will be a massive mistake for them - not so much the U.S short term, but for their lackies whose grip on power will deteriorate (despite the initial strengthening that comes with it). Both Temer and Macri will in one way or another sink.
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    Walther von Oldenburg

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    Re: Venezuela crisis

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Mon May 21, 2018 8:23 am

    Ok, Maduro won. What's next?
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    George1

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    Re: Venezuela crisis

    Post  George1 on Mon May 21, 2018 9:49 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Ok, Maduro won. What's next?

    civil war maybe?


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