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    US WWII Bomber and Fighter aircrafts

    Post  pampa14 on Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:34 am

    During WW2, either by carriage to the Theater of Operations or conducting tests for naval versions, often was possible to have the unusual sight of land-based fighters operating on aircraft carriers. I share with you the following link, that presents a collection of curious photos of these aircraft. Hope you enjoy.


    http://aviacaoemfloripa.blogspot.com.br/2011/02/estranhos-sobre-o-deque.html

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    F4U Corsair carrying a guided bomb

    Post  pampa14 on Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:56 pm


    I had never seen this and share with you a few photos of a Vought F4U Corsair carrying a bomb guided by radar ASM-N-2 Bat. The photos and a small report can be viewed at the link. Hope you enjoy.


    http://aviacaoemfloripa.blogspot.com.br/2011/02/f-4u-corsair-testando-bomba-guiada.html


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    B-24 Assembly Ships

    Post  pampa14 on Sun Mar 22, 2015 12:15 pm


    I share with you the following link that brings some photos of B-24 Liberators in unusual cammos. The reason for the colorful and exotic camouflage was to give USAAF bombers a visual aid to form up after takeoff before heading out on their missions. I hope you enjoy.


    http://aviacaoemfloripa.blogspot.com.br/2011/01/camuflagens-exoticas-b-24-assembly-ships.html


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    A B-17 with five engines

    Post  pampa14 on Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:47 pm


    The following link has some pictures of this curious and unusual version of the Flying Fortress, used to test the engine Wright XT-35 Typhon. I hope you enjoy and I count on your visit.


    http://aviacaoemfloripa.blogspot.com.br/2011/01/boeing-b-17-modificadas.html


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    Enola Gay, heroism or insanity?

    Post  pampa14 on Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:38 pm


    Enola Gay, undoubtedly the most famous B-29 bomber ever built. The big question, his fame comes from an act of heroism or insanity? Click on the link below, answer this poll and leave your opinion. The link also contains a full report and photos about this important chapter of WW2. Be sure to visit and participate.


    http://aviacaoemfloripa.blogspot.com.br/2012/02/enola-gay.html


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    Re: US WWII Bomber and Fighter aircrafts

    Post  Mike E on Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:19 pm

    Bit of both IMHO.... 

    The act might have taken hundreds of thousands of lives, but in the process of shortening the war, it probably saved just as many if not more. My problem (and the World's) is that these were innocent lives, "Women and children killed" (ala US media) dead in the thousands. 

    It also was the gun that shot the Nuclear Race into action, but that was going to happen either way. 

    As an American, it wasn't the worse thing to happen, but as a Human, it was devastating.

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    Re: US WWII Bomber and Fighter aircrafts

    Post  kvs on Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:37 pm

    It is presented as shortening WWII when in fact it shortened the war between Japan and America. The defeat of the one million
    strong Kwantung army by the USSR, thereby freeing a large part of China, was a very important contributing factor as well. But
    in the USA and most of the rest of NATO nobody who does not study the subject knows anything about it.

    Also, dropping the two nuclear bombs was a signal to Stalin that America was the big dog. Showing that it would use it on
    civilians was part of this demonstration.

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    Re: US WWII Bomber and Fighter aircrafts

    Post  GarryB on Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:56 am

    The Japanese had already approached the Soviets to try to negotiate a peace settlement with the Americans... what they didn't know was that there was a secret agreement between the Allies that the Soviets would enter the Pacific war... the US was afraid everyone would relax at the end of the war in Europe and it would be left fighting Japan for years.... as an indication the colonial powers... mainly britain and france actually used Japanese troops to keep their colonies in line just after WWII as they didn't have the man power to do it themselves.

    The soviets therefore invaded Manchuria and areas of land lost in the 1905 conflict with Japan.

    there is talk about the nuclear attacks being to shorten the war.. it is rather more likely they were intended to impress Stalin, but they didn't know he had an advanced nuclear weapon programme of his own and spies in the US programme.


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    Re: US WWII Bomber and Fighter aircrafts

    Post  mack8 on Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:15 pm

    Regardless of how controversial the use of atomic bombs is, one thing not to forget is the systematic firebombings targeted deliberately against civilians during 1945, resulting in anywhere from half to almost a million deaths, tens of millions displaced, and practically all significant cities reduced to ruins. Apart from any real (or imaginary) military considerents, the overwhelmingly dominant mentality in the US of those days of "a dead jap is a good jap", must have played a big part in this. Imo no doubt those who ordered these attacks must have also had a perverse desire to kill as much japanese as possible (not sure about LeMay, likely he was one of these visceral nutters too, he must have been since he ordered the firebombings but it is known Halsey was a visceral racist hating the japanese with a passion- yes, i know he didn't really had a hand in the firebombings, just giving an example)

    That mentality is clearly visible today too - MILLIONS(!) of peoples have been killed in Asia, ME and Africa directly or indirectly by the US and the mentally deranged elite ruling it.

    Btw, not trying to ignore or justify other such genocidal and heinous atrocities before or after WW2, like from the nazi, imperial japanese and even stalinist or  maoist regimes, but the point is, the US is/was just as bad.

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    Re: US WWII Bomber and Fighter aircrafts

    Post  GarryB on Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:55 am

    Hiroshima and Nagasaki were just two of the cities on the list to target and the list was drawn up of the cities with the least military value because these cities had not been firebombed, so you could say both cities were selected because they had no military value.

    Some suggest this was to show the Japanese that no accepted international rules of war mostly created by the west would be ignored and they were prepared to kill all Japanese civilians if necessary.

    If the US had lost the war it would have been considered a war crime I suspect.


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    Re: US WWII Bomber and Fighter aircrafts

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:25 am

    H&N were very mind-blowing because of the apparent cost effectiveness of the operation. One bomb two cities gone. Although to have those two (four actually with Alamo tests) shots the cost was quite gigantic.
    Nevertheless what made H&N possible was the delivery mean. That was the B29. The SuperFortress had already caused havoc in Tokyo (by far more critical and destructive raid than both H&N).

    And that Stalin understood, more than the bomb itself, the delivery mean made a superweapon, a real tool of terror. It became even more of problem when the B-29 was a goner and the 36 and 49 came through.


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    Re: US WWII Bomber and Fighter aircrafts

    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:21 am

    Truman using the Atom Bomb was a crime against humanity and the real reason he did it was so Japan would surrender to the US instead of CCCP. We had already crushed the Manchuko Army with ease and scared the crap out of the Imperial Command. The US Navy had already destroyed the Imperial Merchant Marine so it was just a waiting game, instead Truman decided to use living test subjects for his new toy.


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    Re: US WWII Bomber and Fighter aircrafts

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:00 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:Truman using the Atom Bomb was a crime against humanity and the real reason he did it was so Japan would surrender to the US instead of CCCP.  We had already crushed the Manchuko Army with ease and scared the crap out of the Imperial Command.  The US Navy had already destroyed the Imperial Merchant Marine so it was just a waiting game, instead Truman decided to use living test subjects for his new toy.  

    So it was described by Theodore Hall and Mr. Koval. The bombing was done to sample the power of the bomb. Let us all never forget that it was Nobel prize holder Albert Einstein that called to develop this monster that we all have to live with.

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    Re: US WWII Bomber and Fighter aircrafts

    Post  Werewolf on Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:33 pm

    The reason for nuclear genocide was a political move not a military move.

    The japanese were already trying to capitulate via proxy. To bomb dense civilian cities was both demonstration to USSR military power that they have entered a new ERA and to field test the weapon. Both bombs were dropped and there were 3 planes present one of them was always a plane with scientists onboard analysing the event.

    IF the americans actually wanted to end a war they would and could have used those nuclear bombs on Berlin if they actually wanted to claim victory, they already indiscriminately have bombed german cities with no military value with the order "To kill as many as possible", but that would have little to no effect, since the big and dense cities were already flattened and the population was disperesed, annihilated or took cover in shelters they could find, so not really impressive when you throw an atomic bomb on already destroyed ghost cities.

    The atomic bomb safed lifes is the same cynical brainwashing bullshit like genocide of indigenous people to safe civilisation from those "primates". It did not safe lifes it killed millions, the radiation kills till this very day, misscariages, deformed babies, polluded and destroyed genetic pool of Japanese population that live remotley to those cities.

    Calling genocide heroism to safe lives should be death sentence, nothing heroic about it nothing live saving about killing civilians.

    Lifes of Militarymen are cheap they do not value as much as civilian lifes and i tell that as a soldier.

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    P-51 Mustang with rare cammo

    Post  pampa14 on Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:30 pm


    The link below brings some photos of a P-51 Mustang applied with an experimental paint scheme. Does anyone know the name or if this cammo was used operationally?


    http://aviacaoemfloripa.blogspot.com.br/2011/01/p-51-mustang-em-camuflagem-exotica.html


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    Re: US WWII Bomber and Fighter aircrafts

    Post  Mike E on Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:16 pm

    Very interesting... I do not know the name of this particular camo pattern, but it is very similar to what was painted on WW1 battleships.

    It is clearly a variant of "dazzle", if that answers your question.

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    P-51 Mustang operations on aircraft carriers

    Post  pampa14 on Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:53 pm


    I share with you some photos showing P-51 Mustangs on aircraft carriers. There was a naval version of this plane? To see the photos, visit the link below:


    http://aviacaoemfloripa.blogspot.com.br/2011/02/um-p-51-mustang-navalizado.html


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    Re: US WWII Bomber and Fighter aircrafts

    Post  Cucumber Khan on Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:43 pm

    pampa14 wrote:
    I share with you some photos showing P-51 Mustangs on aircraft carriers. There was a naval version of this plane? To see the photos, visit the link below:


    http://aviacaoemfloripa.blogspot.com.br/2011/02/um-p-51-mustang-navalizado.html


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    No, there was not. This is just P-51s being transported to their combat deployment. They did the same with Spitfires to Malta and P-40s to North Africa.

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    P-61 Black Widow with missile

    Post  pampa14 on Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:18 pm


    I share with you some pictures showing a flying P-61 with a missile under the fuselage. Does anyone know what kind of missile is this and was used operationally? The link also contains photographs of the plane now testing some kind of jet engine. Photos can be viewed by visiting the link below:


    http://aviacaoemfloripa.blogspot.com.br/2011/02/p-61-black-widow-em-testes-especiais.html


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    Re: US WWII Bomber and Fighter aircrafts

    Post  Tolstoy on Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:43 pm

    Nice Pics

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:31 pm

    Tolstoy wrote:Nice Pics

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    A naval version for Warhawk?

    Post  pampa14 on Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:57 pm


    I share with you some pictures of fighters Curtiss P-40 operating aboard aircraft carriers or on the flight deck. Some questions for aviation and history enthusiasts of WW2. There was a naval version of the P-40? Which countries have used during the war and which Operating Theatres? To view photos visit the link below:


    http://aviacaoemfloripa.blogspot.com.br/2011/02/curtiss-p-40-em-porta-avioes.html


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    Flying Fortress captured

    Post  pampa14 on Sat Aug 01, 2015 2:42 pm


    One of the main and most important Allied bombers, the B-17 was sparked interest and greed target of Germans and Japanese during WW2. Inevitably some planes were captured and tested by the enemy. I share with you the link below that has some photos of these planes, some rare, with German and Japanese markings. To see the photos, visit the link below:


    http://aviacaoemfloripa.blogspot.com.br/2011/02/fortalezas-voadoras-capturadas.html


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    B-17 with exotic painting

    Post  pampa14 on Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:15 pm


    I share with you some photos of a Boeing B-17 bomber with an exotic and unusual camouflage. Does anyone know if this plane entered service and what the function of this painting? I count on your visit.


    http://aviacaoemfloripa.blogspot.com.br/2011/01/boeing-b-17-flying-fortress-spotted-cow.html


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    An exotic and different camouflage

    Post  pampa14 on Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:42 pm


    I share with you some pictures of aircraft applied with camouflage called Barclay. A question, does this camouflage was used operationally or only a test? To see the photos, please visit the link below.


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