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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  Militarov on Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:58 pm

    Article with multiple...more than interesting claims Smile

    "Not only is the Russian air force indiscriminately bombing civilians in Syria—it’s losing a substantial number of aircraft in the process. Turkish jets shot down one Syria-based Russian bomber after it strayed into Turkish air space in November 2015. Russia has also lost around half a dozen helicopters to crashes and ground fire in Syria in recent months."

    "Today Russia is in a similar predicament. Outside of the Syria intervention, Moscow possesses precious little extra air power. But it only takes on T-50 to make an impressive statement and at least imply that Russia has warplanes to spare. It doesn’t actually matter that, as a frontline warplane, the T-50 is probably doomed to fail. It can at least do its job as a propaganda piece......."

    Rest of the article: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/07/putin-s-new-stealth-jet-is-on-a-mission-to-prove-russia-can-still-fight.html

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:25 pm

    Why post it then other than to degrade this thread? Daily beast? It is a known tabloid in UK.

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  Militarov on Wed Jun 08, 2016 3:27 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Why post it then other than to degrade this thread? Daily beast? It is a known tabloid in UK.

    Yeah i am here only to degrade your threads.

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed Jun 08, 2016 3:46 pm

    Oh God it's Davis Axe, the guy who writes more shit than an Indian Al you can eat buffet could eve dream of inducing.

    Guy from War Is Boring...

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  Militarov on Wed Jun 08, 2016 3:52 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Oh God it's Davis Axe, the guy who writes more shit than an Indian Al you can eat buffet could eve dream of inducing.

    Guy from War Is Boring...

    Yeah. Will never forget his article on how Russians stopped making single engined fighters because their engines are so unreliable that its a deathtrap to fly if it doesnt have two.

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  GarryB on Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:09 pm

    Why did you post that flamebait bullshit here Militarov?


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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  Militarov on Thu Jun 09, 2016 2:55 pm

    GarryB wrote:Why did you post that flamebait bullshit here Militarov?

    Because its related to the topic? Or we are allowed to post only stuff that exclusively everyone likes? Or from the authors that must be "pro-Russian" Smile?

    I never said i agree with a guy, he had few on spot comments, some utter BS, but i dont see problem with sharing it, its Forum.

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  OminousSpudd on Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:54 am

    Militarov wrote:
    GarryB wrote:Why did you post that flamebait bullshit here Militarov?

    Because its related to the topic? Or we are allowed to post only stuff that exclusively everyone likes? Or from the authors that must be "pro-Russian" Smile?

    I never said i agree with a guy, he had few on spot comments, some utter BS, but i dont see problem with sharing it, its Forum.                                            

    "A few on spot comments." Wut. Literally nothing in that article had any bearing on reality...

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  Militarov on Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:57 am

    OminousSpudd wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    GarryB wrote:Why did you post that flamebait bullshit here Militarov?

    Because its related to the topic? Or we are allowed to post only stuff that exclusively everyone likes? Or from the authors that must be "pro-Russian" Smile?

    I never said i agree with a guy, he had few on spot comments, some utter BS, but i dont see problem with sharing it, its Forum.                                            

    "A few on spot comments." Wut. Literally nothing in that article had any bearing on reality...

    Well he said that PAK-FA did have dev issues, with is true, structural problems are documented in Russian sources as well.

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  GarryB on Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:58 am

    Don't try to pull that shit on me... you know full well I accept all sorts of criticism of Russian equipment when it has merit.

    This is just flamebait dirt as I said.

    You don't have a right to post anything you like on this forum, this is not a democracy.

    The criteria for posting is not just being on topic... you can add value with information or you can ask questions or discuss things on topic.

    What I don't want to see is members digging up horseshit from crappy websites and posting it here like it is worth reading.

    I know some members like to post this sort of crap and enjoy seeing it ripped to shreds, but I expect better from you.

    How would you like the serbian threads polluted with the memoires of Madeline Allbright... posting her opinion on all things Balkans? It would be on topic... it would also be bullshit.

    The reason we don't is respect for Serbian members and respect for common sense and manners.

    Please return that respect and don't post this sort of rubbish here again.


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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  Militarov on Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:46 pm

    GarryB wrote:Don't try to pull that shit on me... you know full well I accept all sorts of criticism of Russian equipment when it has merit.

    This is just flamebait dirt as I said.

    You don't have a right to post anything you like on this forum, this is not a democracy.

    The criteria for posting is not just being on topic... you can add value with information or you can ask questions or discuss things on topic.

    What I don't want to see is members digging up horseshit from crappy websites and posting it here like it is worth reading.

    I know some members like to post this sort of crap and enjoy seeing it ripped to shreds, but I expect better from you.

    How would you like the serbian threads polluted with the memoires of Madeline Allbright... posting her opinion on all things Balkans?  It would be on topic... it would also be bullshit.

    The reason we don't is respect for Serbian members and respect for common sense and manners.

    Please return that respect and don't post this sort of rubbish here again.


    You know that on this forum have members that are flooding your threads with shit, BS, insults, sourceless posts, trolling, made up shit, fake "RUSSIA LOST ANOTHER BOMBER IN HOMS" news and what not. Posters with multiple accounts some of which are even one "Forum contributors" pulling your nose around.

    ... and you instead dealing with all that decide to pick up on me at least once in two weeks coz i posted something from a source you consider as not worthy? And in post i more than clearly expressed my skepticism towards some of the claims from the article?

    Now i am wondering are you trying to make me leave this forum? Coz if its the latter one i am out in a moment i am not getting paid here or anything there are places on this dear World Wide Web where i am very well respected and understood and not getting trolled by forum staff like i am 13 years old World of Tank player.

    That article was clicked more times than any article on PAK-FA written in last 6 months hands down. Isnt it sort of "smart" to read the damn thing so you know what "other side" (however stupid that sounds) is claiming?

    I shall repeat this once more, as i did already few times, read what i post, if you dont like it, block me... if you want.. ban me, but seriously do not force some shit on me that makes very little sense whatsoever + ppl like Vann, Solc, ult and few others are raping your threads with BS that DOES NOT EVEN HAVE A SOURCE.

    You know already what you can expect from DailyBeast and War is Boring, doesnt mean there are not some nice stuff there between "Russia sucks" and "Putin is Evil" lines.

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  Book. on Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:20 pm



    David axe. Ba English degree..
    No technic. No army. No science study

    Only stopid blogger clown lol1

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:47 pm

    Book. wrote: David axe. Ba English degree..
    No technic. No army. No science study

    Only stopid blogger clown lol1



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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  GarryB on Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:32 pm

    You know that on this forum have members that are flooding your threads with shit, BS, insults, sourceless posts, trolling, made up shit, fake "RUSSIA LOST ANOTHER BOMBER IN HOMS" news and what not. Posters with multiple accounts some of which are even one "Forum contributors" pulling your nose around.

    So your first argument is everyone else is doing it... not a good start.

    ... and you instead dealing with all that decide to pick up on me at least once in two weeks coz i posted something from a source you consider as not worthy? And in post i more than clearly expressed my skepticism towards some of the claims from the article?

    So your second argument is that I am picking on you.

    Perhaps instead of scepticism, perhaps not posting crap would have been a better move?

    Now i am wondering are you trying to make me leave this forum? Coz if its the latter one i am out in a moment i am not getting paid here or anything there are places on this dear World Wide Web where i am very well respected and understood and not getting trolled by forum staff like i am 13 years old World of Tank player.

    If I did not respect you I would have let your stupid post pass... and BTW I have the tools to make any member leave this forum if I choose... and I is something I choose not to use unless absolutely necessary.

    That article was clicked more times than any article on PAK-FA written in last 6 months hands down. Isnt it sort of "smart" to read the damn thing so you know what "other side" (however stupid that sounds) is claiming?

    Couldn't give a shit what that dork thinks about the PAK FA. Not interested.


    I shall repeat this once more, as i did already few times, read what i post, if you dont like it, block me... if you want.. ban me, but seriously do not force some shit on me that makes very little sense whatsoever + ppl like Vann, Solc, ult and few others are raping your threads with BS that DOES NOT EVEN HAVE A SOURCE.

    The source in this case is an asshole... I would rather read a members uneducated opinion than this dribble.

    You know already what you can expect from DailyBeast and War is Boring, doesnt mean there are not some nice stuff there between "Russia sucks" and "Putin is Evil" lines.

    So exactly what part of this bilge is nice stuff?

    What has it brought to this thread that is new?

    What value has it added to this thread?

    This post and most of the posts before it have added nothing to this thread except wasted some bandwidth... say what you want to say... tomorrow when I log on I am going to remove these posts.


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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  Zivo on Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:05 pm

    Finally, I decided to read through the article after the heat it raised here. Good god, it is total crap.

    David Axe is an outright propagandist.

    The T-50—Russia’s answer to the U.S. Air Force’s F-22—is far from war-ready. Indeed, the twin-engine, radar-evading warplane is suffering such serious design, quality-control, and financing problems that it might never enter frontline service in large numbers.

    Right off the bat he imagines this. He is clearly no expert, and includes no source. Assuming instead, his readers are stupid enough to repeat this claim without fact checking.

    But the cash injection was short-lived—and could only do so much good, anyway, considering the deplorable condition of the Russian aerospace industry. The air force managed to repair hundreds of Soviet-era aircraft and buy additional hundreds of new planes. But the “new” planes are, in fact, almost all upgraded versions of Soviet-vintage jets. While Russian industry has devised new radars and missiles, the T-50 is one of Russia’s few truly new airframe designs—and it’s a mess.

    Contradicts himself twice in the same paragraph...  Rolling Eyes

    Specially shaped to avoid detection by radar, the T-50 shares the powerful engines, sensors, and missiles of older Russian warplanes.

    Incorrect on all three counts. Did he not just say the missiles were new?

    India had offered to co-develop the T-50 and buy scores of copies. But in 2014, Indian officials blah blah blah...

    Discussed here and other places like keypub already. You are all familiar with this BS claim.

    By comparison, the U.S. Air Force possesses more than 180 F-22s

    Many of which are sitting in hangers. The popularized term, "boutique numbers" also applies to the F-22, as do most of his points. A good example, the two sent to Lithuania for propaganda purposes. Such airpower, so .0000000000001m², much LPI.

    The Russian planes have flown hundreds of missions, targeting ISIS fighters, U.S.-backed moderate rebels and even civilians in rebel-held territory.

    Not only is the Russian air force indiscriminately bombing civilians in Syria...

    David Axe, you fucking piece of human garbage Mad

    The costly Syria intervention has all but maxed out Russia’s capacity for aerial warfare. True, on paper the Kremlin possesses nearly 3,000 military aircraft. But even after Putin’s reforms, only a few hundred of the planes and helicopters are fully modern. Experienced pilots are in even shorter supply.  

    The cost has been published, and as far as air campaigns go, Syria is cheap. I'd like to see his source for the "experienced pilots" claim. Seeing Su-34's plastered with 300+ sortie markers shows otherwise. Being so inexperienced, those russian crews sure as fuck turned the war around. Syria as a whole, is a prime example of the of the schizophrenia of western propaganda... russia is collapsing, yet simultaneously taking over the world.

    In mid-2014, Moscow had a choice. It could expand its annexation of Crimea to include a direct attack on eastern Ukraine—an assault that would have required heavy air support. Or the Russian government could, as tradition dictated, plan for the annual Victory Day parade that, every May 9, commemorates the Soviet Union’s defeat of Nazi Germany—and includes a huge flyover of Moscow involving up to a hundred military aircraft, with scores more waiting nearby as back-ups in case some planes or copters break down.

    The flyover required months of preparation and rehearsal—and effectively precluded another war. “From the beginning of intensive training, there was little capacity left for a military intervention,” Stefan Buettner wrote in Combat Aircraft, a trade magazine.

    What a ridiculous claim, and a perfect coup de gras for this awful piece of propaganda. Go kill yourself David. lol1


    Thanks for the laugh Militarov.

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  Militarov on Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:33 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    You know that on this forum have members that are flooding your threads with shit, BS, insults, sourceless posts, trolling, made up shit, fake "RUSSIA LOST ANOTHER BOMBER IN HOMS" news and what not. Posters with multiple accounts some of which are even one "Forum contributors" pulling your nose around.

    So your first argument is everyone else is doing it... not a good start.

    ... and you instead dealing with all that decide to pick up on me at least once in two weeks coz i posted something from a source you consider as not worthy? And in post i more than clearly expressed my skepticism towards some of the claims from the article?

    So your second argument is that I am picking on you.

    Perhaps instead of scepticism, perhaps not posting crap would have been a better move?

    Now i am wondering are you trying to make me leave this forum? Coz if its the latter one i am out in a moment i am not getting paid here or anything there are places on this dear World Wide Web where i am very well respected and understood and not getting trolled by forum staff like i am 13 years old World of Tank player.

    If I did not respect you I would have let your stupid post pass... and BTW I have the tools to make any member leave this forum if I choose... and I is something I choose not to use unless absolutely necessary.

    That article was clicked more times than any article on PAK-FA written in last 6 months hands down. Isnt it sort of "smart" to read the damn thing so you know what "other side" (however stupid that sounds) is claiming?

    Couldn't give a shit what that dork thinks about the PAK FA. Not interested.


    I shall repeat this once more, as i did already few times, read what i post, if you dont like it, block me... if you want.. ban me, but seriously do not force some shit on me that makes very little sense whatsoever + ppl like Vann, Solc, ult and few others are raping your threads with BS that DOES NOT EVEN HAVE A SOURCE.

    The source in this case is an asshole... I would rather read a members uneducated opinion than this dribble.

    You know already what you can expect from DailyBeast and War is Boring, doesnt mean there are not some nice stuff there between "Russia sucks" and "Putin is Evil" lines.

    So exactly what part of this bilge is nice stuff?

    What has it brought to this thread that is new?

    What value has it added to this thread?

    This post and most of the posts before it have added nothing to this thread except wasted some bandwidth... say what you want to say... tomorrow when I log on I am going to remove these posts.

    Please ban me too while you are at it as i am done with this forum.

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:34 pm

    Why? Just relax people, please.

    Militarov has provided a lot of good stuff over time, even if we don't agree with it.

    No point over arguing a single article.

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  AlfaT8 on Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:23 pm

    I'm still trying to figure out why this argument went so far, all because of one stupid article, not the first time it's been done here, i mean how many articles have we chopped up for being incoherent, incorrect, down right lies and complete utter horse shit, also first time i have seen Garry go full MP.net, makes me doubt it's really him, over all this all seems way overboard hardly ban worthy.

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:26 pm

    If Vann, Rmf, Haushofer, Ultron, Mustafa and other asorted morons can constantly post shit with impunity than Militarov can post link to whatever article he wants to.

    Seriously, if you don't like it than don't read it, at least he just posted link instead wall of bullshit the usually come from those idiots.

    In this case you are given option not to read if you don't want to.

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  Svyatoslavich on Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:36 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:If Vann, Rmf, Haushofer, Ultron, Mustafa and other asorted morons can constantly post shit with impunity than Militarov can post link to whatever article he wants to.

    Seriously, if you don't like it than don't read it, at least he just posted link instead wall of bullshit the usually come from those idiots.

    In this case you are given option not to read if you don't want to.
    I fully agree. I just didn't read the article, as I don't have much time to waste, and that is it.

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:42 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Why?  Just relax people, please.

    Militarov has provided a lot of good stuff over time, even if we don't agree with it.

    No point over arguing a single article.

    x2


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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  Rmf on Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:12 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:If Vann, Rmf, Haushofer, Ultron, Mustafa and other asorted morons can constantly post shit with impunity than Militarov can post link to whatever article he wants to.

    Seriously, if you don't like it than don't read it, at least he just posted link instead wall of bullshit the usually come from those idiots.

    In this case you are given option not to read if you don't want to.
    well youre a retard so what else is new? i dont even comment your worthless photo PR b.s.

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  OminousSpudd on Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:40 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:If Vann, Rmf, Haushofer, Ultron, Mustafa and other asorted morons can constantly post shit with impunity than Militarov can post link to whatever article he wants to.

    Seriously, if you don't like it than don't read it, at least he just posted link instead wall of bullshit the usually come from those idiots.

    In this case you are given option not to read if you don't want to.

    +1 This was stupid. We have total screwheads all over this forum who post bloody jihadi propaganda as pure truth, and Militarov gets picked on for posting an article from the Daily Beast? I mean sure, it's bullshit, but he didn't believe it, unlike some other morons.

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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:11 am

    sepheronx wrote:Why post it then other than to degrade this thread? Daily beast? It is a known tabloid in UK.
    Minor correction. The Daily Beast has nothing to do with the UK, it is 100% American.

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  GarryB on Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:46 pm

    Please ban me too while you are at it as i am done with this forum.


    Up to you.

    Not going to ban you however.

    Garry go full MP.net, makes me doubt it's really him, over all this all seems way overboard hardly ban worthy.

    I haven't banned anyone.

    I am surprised by Militarovs reaction, but this is not the first time he has threatened to quit this forum... which he has every right to.

    If Vann, Rmf, Haushofer, Ultron, Mustafa and other asorted morons can constantly post shit with impunity than Militarov can post link to whatever article he wants to.

    Ummm... did you read what he posted into the PAK FA thread?

    Let me remind you:

    "Not only is the Russian air force indiscriminately bombing civilians in Syria—it’s losing a substantial number of aircraft in the process. Turkish jets shot down one Syria-based Russian bomber after it strayed into Turkish air space in November 2015. Russia has also lost around half a dozen helicopters to crashes and ground fire in Syria in recent months."

    "Today Russia is in a similar predicament. Outside of the Syria intervention, Moscow possesses precious little extra air power. But it only takes on T-50 to make an impressive statement and at least imply that Russia has warplanes to spare. It doesn’t actually matter that, as a frontline warplane, the T-50 is probably doomed to fail. It can at least do its job as a propaganda piece......."

    If TheArmenian or Zivo had posted such an article my response would have been the same... ie

    Why did you post that flamebait bullshit here Militarov?

    You can read the rest for yourself.

    I expected better from Militarov... as I would for Zivo or TheArmenian... and I suspect if either of them had done such a thing they would not have defended their right to post flamebait shit here and probably would have manned up and apologised to the other members for posting such dribble... claiming temporary insanity or something no doubt... Smile

    Amazing that I get criticised for letting some post rubbish and criticised for not letting others post it.

    And asking a question means I am going all MP.net on them????

    Really?

    I think we have a few Divas here... if they want to leave then I will miss them but I am not going to beg forgiveness.

    I am just doing my job as best I can... if you guys want to vote me off the island then PM Vlad.

    BTW sorry to Zivo and TheArmenian for any offense, you are members I respect as thinking sensible members of this forum that don't let your emotions get the better of you... Militarov used to be in that group too for me, but clearly he wants the right to post BS without question...


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