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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  BTRfan on Fri May 31, 2013 8:16 pm

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:Millions never died under communism since first because there haven't been any communist nations(this is an oxymoron since communism seeks to abolish bordres and unite humanity) and second becausze all these numbers of "millions of killed" are false due to faulty mathematical model or simply overly bloating the death count in order to discourage communism or any left wing ideology.
    In the soviet union the original estimate made by Robert Conquest of "40 million dead" is based on a faulty mathematical model of population growth and including the 27 million soviet deaths commited by the Nazi genocide. It would be illogical for many millions to die in the USSR all statistics show that population rapidly INCREASED throughout its history except during WW2. The other book claiming a large death toll of socialist governments is the "black book of communism"which claims a ridiculous 100 million deaths( 1/2 of the population of the USSR). The book had extremely unreliable sources mainly from Ukrainian Nazis and in 2001 the author even confessed that the book had death toll errors.


    After the full documents were released after the collapse, historians like John Getty and Stephen Wheatcroft edited the number to about 2 million, with 1.057 million dying in the Gulags. The 20 million number comes from historian Robert Conquest in the '60s-'70s, and he based his numbers largely on Khrushchev's secret speech (which was full of lies as Grover Furr pointed out in his book "Khrushchev Lied"). The Gorbachev documents aren't very honest either, in fact the last 3 pages of the Katyn one seemed to be forgeries since they had a different type-face than the typewriter in Beria's room.



    Capitalism and Socialism are economic systems. Deaths as a result of those systems cannot be attributed to failures in those systems, as the systems find acceptability relative to their social usefulness. The moral aspects of the systems only come into account when contradictions are present in the system, thus necessitating a dialectic for change.


    As for human rights the USSR had for most part(especially during the 30s higher moral standards, more rights, personal freedoms and better living conditions for the population unlike in the westernt colonial empires like Britain and the US where eugenics and racism ran rampant, there was exploitation and oppression against the working class, massive accumulation of wealth into a very limited amount of individuals and not for the common good( like in all capitalist nations to this day), and very poor living conditions and lack of opportunity for the minorities and native colonial peoples. None of these things ever happened in any socialist nation.

    Compared to the monarchial and corporate empires of the 20th century it also had a more democratic government even if it lacked the 2-party illusion of democracy.

    The SU had over 70,000 Soviets across the country, and each Soviet had a number of politicians elected through direct democracy through factories elections and such. The Leningrad Soviet, for example, had over 20,000 elected officials. The Soviets also had structure, as there were local, regional, national, republic, and supreme Soviets. The system therefore worked as a chain, and the top directed the bottom, but the bottom created the top. The local Soviets were also given ownership of factories, schools, hospitals, homes, etc. The party also had such structure, as there were 130,000 party cells across the country. Those cells would elect an All-Union Party Congress that would meet twice a year. The Congress would thereupon elect the Central Committee, and the Central Committee elected the Politburo and General Secretary.

    Leninist Democratic Centralism also makes Liberal Democracy more challenging, as the former is more democratic than the latter. Democracy should not simply be about giving the population a single vote every two years, rather it should represent the needs of the worker relative to their specific conditions. For this, we will need to create many councils to establish this type of rule, so as to have relativity in the concept of democratic rule in the regions. Soviet is the Russian word for Council, so when people say "Soviet Union" they mean "Council Union."

    "freedom of speech and a multiparty system" The Soviets didn't lack in either. There were well over 9,000 newspapers across the country, and there were also 20,000 state employees who traveled across the nation to get peoples' personal opinions. Free speech is necessary in any Socialist state, as the converse is contradictory to the Marxist dialectic theory and thus Socialism itself.


    The Soviets did allow the Church to accumulate wealth. However their difference from the Czarists was that the church could no longer receive subsidies from the government, rather a separation was made between church and state. The church was only allowed to accumulate wealth from donations and small scale agricultural works.




    It must be hell for you then, living in Bulgaria since communism is done in Bulgaria. I would suggest that if you're looking for a nation similar to the 1930s Soviet Union you move to the DPRK, you can enjoy their freedom and human rights.

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  BTRfan on Fri May 31, 2013 8:17 pm

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:


    As for human rights the USSR had for most part(especially during the 30s higher moral standards, more rights, personal freedoms and better living conditions for the population unlike in the westernt colonial empires like Britain and the US where eugenics and racism ran rampant, there was exploitation and oppression against the working class, massive accumulation of wealth into a very limited amount of individuals and not for the common good( like in all capitalist nations to this day), and very poor living conditions and lack of opportunity for the minorities and native colonial peoples. None of these things ever happened in any socialist nation.




    You remind me of "Professor" Grover Furr. He's a clown in the USA who is supposed to teach classes on medieval literature and the history of the English language and instead he spends most of the semester heaping praises on Stalin and discussing how the Soviet Union in the 1930s was the pinnacle of democracy.

    He has written dozens of books in praise of Stalin. He has denounced Kruschev as a liar, denounced any Russian/Soviets leaders who have admitted there were Soviet crimes, as liars. He even shouted, in a debate, that the idea that Stalin even ordered a single person killed was "bull shit" and he insists that there is not a shred of evidence that Stalin ever ordered a single execution.
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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:12 am

    Russia is a Slavic country with a large number of native non Slavic minorities. But it's essence (majority population, language, culture, history etc) is Slavic. When it ceases to be that it won't be Russia anymore.

    In another sense, geopolitically speaking, Russia is a successor to the Byzantine Empire. It's a separate civilisation from both Western Europe and Asia. And thank god for that. At least one major country isn't following the self destructive path of out control "multiculturalism", gay marriages, so called progressive liberal bureaucrats and special interest groups deciding for me what's best. What I can say, eat, smoke...



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    Post  BTRfan on Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:49 am

    Cyberspec wrote:Russia is a Slavic country with a large number of native non Slavic minorities. But it's essence (majority population, language, culture, history etc) is Slavic. When it ceases to be that it won't be Russia anymore.

    In another sense, geopolitically speaking, Russia is a successor to the Byzantine Empire. It's a separate civilisation from both Western Europe and Asia. And thank god for that. At least one major country isn't following the self destructive path of out control "multiculturalism", gay marriages, so called progressive liberal bureaucrats and special interest groups deciding for me what's best. What I can say, eat, smoke...





    Thank you, that's my main point. If Russia were to become 40% Turkic, 20% Chinese, and 10% Africa, it wouldn't be Russia anymore.

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  Corrosion on Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:02 am

    BTRfan wrote:
    Thank you, that's my main point. If Russia were to become 40% Turkic, 20% Chinese, and 10% Africa, it wouldn't be Russia anymore.

    But America will still be America because its a nation built on Illegal immigrants. Wink

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    Post  Department Of Defense on Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:54 am

    Cyberspec wrote: At least one major country isn't following the self destructive path of out control "multiculturalism", gay marriages, so called progressive liberal bureaucrats and special interest groups deciding for me what's best.

    And that brings you to Australia ..??
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    Post  Cyberspec on Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:27 am

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    And that brings you to Australia ..??

    Australia among others....it's a common theme in most Western countries and it's called social engineering. Shoving values down people's throat that they do not accept. A whole industry and self interested bureaucracy has grown from it

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    Post  Department Of Defense on Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:17 am

    Cyberspec wrote:Australia among others....it's a common theme in most Western countries and it's called social engineering. Shoving values down people's throat that they do not accept. A whole industry and self interested bureaucracy has grown from it

    Interesting , the line between the West & Russia is fast disappearing .
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:04 pm

    And that brings you to Australia ..??

    Probably 747. Razz


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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  Regular on Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:49 pm

    Department Of Defense wrote:
    Cyberspec wrote:Australia among others....it's a common theme in most Western countries and it's called social engineering. Shoving values down people's throat that they do not accept. A whole industry and self interested bureaucracy has grown from it

    Interesting , the line between the West & Russia is fast disappearing .
    Yeah, give it about 10 years and we will see this guy as Russian president

    GRAPHIC WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Even Boris Moiseev looks straight like arrow compared to him
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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  gaurav on Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:08 pm

    Firebird wrote:
    And this maniac Regular is the most intolerant person you could imagine.
    Absolutely correct.


    He smears British people as lazy scum, and makes up a load of lies.
    Again absolutely correct.
    Can anyone tell me how to make the reputation of this IRregular to -10000.
    That what he deserves.



    What was it he called Britain? Something like a "politically correct shithole". If he said that in a lot of British pubs, he'd be sent back to his gypsy patch - in a body bag.

    Actually Regular has become a undisputed leader in taking the level of this discussion to absolute abyss.The level of his english grammer and thinking is primitive to say the least.

    He smears British people as lazy scum, and makes up a load of lies.

    His comments are extremely painful and venomous to say the least.

    The amount of venomic radiation that he spews on this forum is unprecedented.


    Its clear how his kind were supporters of Hitler, and committed appalling crimes against Russia.
    I am really shocked that he has a russian surname .That Kuzmin puppy is a hitler

    puppy to say the least.His ancestors were regulars in Russian army.

    Now I have doubt that they were actually german soldiers who sided with Hitler.
    He is the biggest IR-Regular I have ever seen.

    If the guy had kept his mouth shut and respectful to his hosts, I wouldnt have even bothered speaking.

    Thats the real truth I would never have written this kind of post if he had kept his venom spewing mouth shut.

    He has truly the traits of "great Kuzmin" guess why.. because he has uncanny nack of

    emitting racist videos and surnames because of his upbriging which is clearly inadequate.

    I seriously support Firebird in this nasty series of comments that has taken part. thumbsup

    And yes something about BTRfan..

    I do understand what you are saying in these series of posts.
    But it is not necessary that you graphically project your explanation
    With racially tainted comments.

    I think you are going overboard with your racially tainted comments on U.S , Indians and Russians.







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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  Firebird on Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:36 pm

    gaurav wrote:.

    I seriously support Firebird in this nasty series of comments that has taken part. thumbsup


    guarav, many thanks for your thoughtful comments thumbsup

    garry, I note your comments too, inc the ones about your worksearch ordeal in the past : )

    Unfortunately, nonsense spewers are an "occupational hazard" for any forum.
    The overwhelming majority of posters here put up real quality posts. So I think I'll concentrate on those for the time being.
    After all, the rest of us have the brains to work out what is what ..

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    Back on Population, did anyone read Putin's idea to increase immmigration to Russia from former Imperial Russia areas eg if you had grandparents from that area etc?

    Do you feel confident that Russia will seize an opportunity in the WTO which will mean increased prosperity and increased population. Or do u think things will go the opposite way?

    Personally, I think prosperity is the key to it all- whether Russia can become less reliant on high oil prices, and more a producer of technology, iconic brands, finance etc. I also wonder about CIS migration and how this might effect matters.


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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  Department Of Defense on Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:23 am

    gaurav wrote:
    He is the biggest IR-Regular I have ever seen.

    You either understood nothing of what Regular said or you understood the opposite , therefore your outburst is misplaced and ill conceived . From the posts that you have made in this forum so far , I wonder if you even understand the difference between a screwdriver and a hammer.

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  Firebird on Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:43 pm

    Department Of Defense wrote:
    gaurav wrote:
    He is the biggest IR-Regular I have ever seen.

    You either understood nothing of what Regular said or you understood the opposite , therefore your outburst is misplaced and ill conceived . From the posts that you have made in this forum so far , I wonder if you even understand the difference between a screwdriver and a hammer.

    I think what Guarav was saying to me, was in relation to Regular's claim that British people are lazy and workshy. Partly because he'd benefitted nicely from import of workers into England, partly for other reasons. Garry was good enough to post his unpleasant experiences of looking for work. And I hardly think he is a stupid, lazy layabout. Regular's comments were extremely offensive to anyone who's seen their country harmed by the import of cheap labour, and to young people putting off starting families for ec reasons(edit- eg in Russia especially). Which means Britain, Russia, America, many first World countries really.

    As far as I'm concerned, the point has been made. The vast majority of the forum is intelligent comments, and reasoned debate. There's no need for things to go into meltdown.

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    Post  Department Of Defense on Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:39 pm

    Firebird wrote: extremely offensive to anyone who's seen their country harmed by the import of cheap labour, and to young people putting off starting families for ec reasons(edit- eg in Russia especially). Which means Britain, Russia, America, many first World countries really.

    I am assuming you are Russian so you would know better about Russia than I do. What we see here in the US is importing cheap labor actually helps the economy as long as the labor is registered. Needless to say that we cherish (legal) immigration that has helped us to become the world's prime economic & military superpower. Bear in mind that in the 60s & 70s thousands of people from the UK migrated to the US and there are more than 3 million Russians living in the US. Why ? when they came in they were "cheap labor" . Period . And we all benefited .

    Blair wanted to replicate the US story in the UK and failed because historically people in the UK are opposed to non European/Anglo Saxon immigration into their country .White English people cannot be described as immigrants ( though the vast majority actually descended from Scandanavia)and the same applies to Slavs in Russia as well . But then take a tour of any global city like NYC ,Dubai , Singapore , Hong Kong and you will see that these are totally multicultural cities . The same applies to London as well . It desired to become a global financial hub and hence the huge number of foreigners who live their . Modern day Shanghai is far more mixed race than it was just 5 years ago. And guess what hundreds of people from Russia & UK work in Shanghai . The Chinese still want more skilled immigrants.

    At the end of the day it basically boils down to a question of security . The Chinese do not think they will be run over by immigrants , coz all the immigrants are legit . Russia & much of Europe think exactly the opposite as most of their immigrants are illegal .


    Firebird wrote:As far as I'm concerned, the point has been made. The vast majority of the forum is intelligent comments, and reasoned debate. There's no need for things to go into meltdown.

    Sounds good . Though Guarav's comments were anything but intelligent .
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    Post  Regular on Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:12 pm

    I'm not trying redeem myself, but English is not my mother tongue and I had to learn it myself. Written English is one thing I definitely want to improve.
    Second of all, I might caused some grievances because I felt for Nicks remarks about Anglo-Saxons and their superiority over Slavs and other ethnic groups. I said bad things about Brits and I can say even worse things about my country as I've spent more time there and seen more nonsense. If I there would be lithuanian supremacist dickhead I would show him his place.
    I am straightforward person, my dick won't fall off if I say sorry to ones that I insulted. But telling Eastern European that I will be knifed or beaten like a gypsy is not appropriate thing, especially if you like your front teeth. Insulting Indians is not nice in my book too, they already proven themselves to the world.
    And I really reconsider my further rants about British society, don't want to hit sensitive nerve, make people spill their tea and make them cry
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:07 am

    Blair wanted to replicate the US story in the UK and failed because historically people in the UK are opposed to non European/Anglo Saxon immigration into their country .

    Sorry... I actually laughed when I read this... here in New Zealand when I fill out an official document I often have to enter my ethnicity and my ethnicity is "white European" even though I am a 6th generation New Zealander.

    If I wanted to live in the old country however I could only get a temporary work visa when I was younger and now I can't even get that... for a New Zealander to move to the UK you need a parent or grandparent to be British so I don't qualify even if my white skin was acceptable to the natives. Smile


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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  Firebird on Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:13 pm

    Regular wrote:I'm not trying redeem myself, but English is not my mother tongue and I had to learn it myself. Written English is one thing I definitely want to improve.
    Second of all, I might caused some grievances because I felt for Nicks remarks about Anglo-Saxons and their superiority over Slavs and other ethnic groups. I said bad things about Brits and I can say even worse things about my country as I've spent more time there and seen more nonsense. If I there would be lithuanian supremacist dickhead I would show him his place.
    I am straightforward person, my dick won't fall off if I say sorry to ones that I insulted. But telling Eastern European that I will be knifed or beaten like a gypsy is not appropriate thing, especially if you like your front teeth. Insulting Indians is not nice in my book too, they already proven themselves to the world.
    And I really reconsider my further rants about British society, don't want to hit sensitive nerve, make people spill their tea and make them cry

    : )
    Thankyou for your post.As you can see, the EU freedom of movement thing is a big topic in Britain, and a very sensitive one. Maybe it will even cause Britain to leave the EU. I think the gypsy comments were just a result of things going into meltdown, not anything else. As someone more Russian and Slavic than British by blood, me becoming an Anglo-Nationalist would be a bit silly Very Happy

    Clearly there are some strongly held views around the forums, not ones we are all gonna agree on. All I can say is, maybe we should all consider how we phrase things. Otherwise, it can become a domino effect. As I said, the knowledge and debate on pure military matters is always top quality.

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  Firebird on Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:23 pm

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    Firebird wrote: extremely offensive to anyone who's seen their country harmed by the import of cheap labour, and to young people putting off starting families for ec reasons(edit- eg in Russia especially). Which means Britain, Russia, America, many first World countries really.

    I am assuming you are Russian so you would know better about Russia than I do. What we see here in the US is importing cheap labor actually helps the economy as long as the labor is registered. Needless to say that we cherish (legal) immigration that has helped us to become the world's prime economic & military superpower. Bear in mind that in the 60s & 70s thousands of people from the UK migrated to the US and there are more than 3 million Russians living in the US. Why ? when they came in they were "cheap labor" . Period . And we all benefited .

    Blair wanted to replicate the US story in the UK and failed because historically people in the UK are opposed to non European/Anglo Saxon immigration into their country .White English people cannot be described as immigrants ( though the vast majority actually descended from Scandanavia)and the same applies to Slavs in Russia as well . But then take a tour of any global city like NYC ,Dubai , Singapore , Hong Kong and you will see that these are totally multicultural cities . The same applies to London as well . It desired to become a global financial hub and hence the huge number of foreigners who live their . Modern day Shanghai is far more mixed race than it was just 5 years ago. And guess what hundreds of people from Russia & UK work in Shanghai . The Chinese still want more skilled immigrants.

    At the end of the day it basically boils down to a question of security . The Chinese do not think they will be run over by immigrants , coz all the immigrants are legit . Russia & much of Europe think exactly the opposite as most of their immigrants are illegal .

    .

    I'm sure Blair only wanted to push wages down, and hence short term inflation figures.
    This was sowing the seeds of future ec problems... after he was gone.

    Britain isnt like America. There is limited land, so its hard to build a new factory or energy plant. These tend to be built elsewhere in Europe. And property is hugely expensive compared to the US. In America you can build a massive new city for immigrants virtually anywhere.

    The immigrants we were getting werent Segei Brins producing new Googles. They were replacing bar staff, builders etc - current jobs were going. And the money was going back to Hungary, Poland whatever. So again, it was not like America, where they stay or fight in wars.

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    Now Russia DOES have lots of land. But the country is still pretty unified. There is a national pride. This doesnt really occur in the same way,when you have 2nd and 3rd gen immigrants at odds with the locals. This means a loss of society. I really think that should not be underestimated. In America, most people are immigrants. In Russia, virtually everyone is proud to be Russian, I think.

    I suspect Britain and Russia wont overly mind geniuses from Oracle etc setting up certain joint venture businesses where Russia learns skills and develops.
    Or wonderful exotic restautants appearing in Moscow. But they wont be thriled with low wagers taking jobs that are already being done.

    And the idea of large waves of Chinese is deeply disturbing to me..

    PS I'm of Russian and British descent, British born. So its not right for me to say "Russia this.." because I do not live in the |Federation. I'm only speculating from what Russian friends tell me.

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    Post  BTRfan on Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:48 pm

    Firebird wrote:
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    Now Russia DOES have lots of land. But the country is still pretty unified. There is a national pride. This doesnt really occur in the same way,when you have 2nd and 3rd gen immigrants at odds with the locals. This means a loss of society. I really think that should not be underestimated. In America, most people are immigrants. In Russia, virtually everyone is proud to be Russian, I think.

    I suspect Britain and Russia wont overly mind geniuses from Oracle etc setting up certain joint venture businesses where Russia learns skills and develops.
    Or wonderful exotic restautants appearing in Moscow. But they wont be thriled with low wagers taking jobs that are already being done.

    And the idea of large waves of Chinese is deeply disturbing to me..

    PS I'm of Russian and British descent, British born. So its not right for me to say "Russia this.." because I do not live in the |Federation. I'm only speculating from what Russian friends tell me.




    Actually in the USA probably 80% of people who are living in the USA were born here and 65% of people in the USA are descended from people who have been here for at least 100-150 years.

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    Post  Department Of Defense on Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:10 pm

    GarryB wrote: for a New Zealander to move to the UK you need a parent or grandparent to be British so I don't qualify even if my white skin was acceptable to the natives.
    Whether you get a job in the UK or not is beside the point . A few guys from North Dakota who returned from their Australia posting last month tells me that a number of people from the UK are searching for jobs in Australia . Fact is you would not be considered by the locals as an outcast as is the case with Africans and Asians in the UK . My forefathers were Catholic and when they moved to the US in the early 50s they were not liked by the majority Protestants . I guess you got the drift.
    Firebird wrote: Britain isnt like America. There is limited land, so its hard to build a new factory or energy plant.
    Unlike the US , the UK made most of it’s wealth by colonizing countries in Africa & Asia who were unable to defend themselves . They tried to colonize Russia too but successive defeats in a number of battles ensured that they could not. The UK’s biggest exports have always been services and not products .


    Firebird wrote:The immigrants we were getting werent Segei Brins producing new Googles.
    The UK was never an IT power like the US . It’s more of a Financial power . A number of immigrants especially Arabs & Hindoos have created great businesses in the UK .

    Firebird wrote:They were replacing bar staff, builders etc - current jobs were going. And the money was going back to Hungary, Poland whatever.
    That’s because local people find such jobs beneath them . Travel to Dubai , these jobs are done by muslims from Africa & Pakistan . This is a global phenomenon not isolated to the UK .
    Firebird wrote:And the idea of large waves of Chinese is deeply disturbing to me.
    And that’s why God created Chuck Norris  . I doubt large waves of Chinese can find any job in Russia that their huge economy cannot provide them already so their chances of entering Russia in huge numbers can be ruled out . About the Chinese military , I am less certain.
    Firebird wrote:PS I'm of Russian and British descent, British born.
    No offense (People’s ethnic background makes little/no difference to me) but that’s an unlikely mix ..right ? Traditionally Brits have always hated Russians probably as much as they hate blacks , Indians , chinese etc . In a way it’s similar to saying I am of Arab & Jewish decent .

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    Post  BTRfan on Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:46 pm

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    That’s because local people find such jobs beneath them . Travel to Dubai , these jobs are done by muslims from Africa & Pakistan . This is a global phenomenon not isolated to the UK .



    Typical Jewish propaganda that we hear in the West.

    Along the lines of "they do work Americand won't do" when referring to construction, day labor, agriculture, etc, in the USA.


    What it actually is, they accept a standard of living that Americans will not and indeed cannot accept.


    Down the street from where I live there are 14 cars parked in one driveway, with at least 18 Mexicans living in the house. Most White people do not want to live 18 to a house.

    Mexicans can afford to make $7 dollars per hour cash doing day labor because they pocket EVERY penny. A White man who wants to take home $7 dollars per hour has to make $10 dollars per hour because taxes are going to take at least $3 dollars per hour.

    A Mexican can also receive free medical care because the hospital cannot turn him away for lacking insurance, lacking the cash to pay, or even for being illegally in the USA.

    A Mexican can also receive food stamps because the government programs do not verify citizenship and it is illegal to deny somebody benefits because they are not here legally.


    So a Mexican can afford to take a job that pays $7 dollars per hour because he is also receiving $200 to $400 per month in food stamps, his medical care is covered, and he has virtually no expenses other than maintaining his car and putting gasoline in his car. Essentially the money he makes is disposable income that he can spend as he pleases.


    A White man may not mind sharing a house with two or three friends, perhaps even 5 to a house, but he doesn't want 17 other people in his house, not even if they're related to him.



    It is not a case that the aliens are willing to work that Americans are unwilling to do. It is a case where the aliens are willing to accept low wages because they are fine with living like animals because that is essentially what they are, animals.



    Down the road in another neighborhood they found 32 Chinese living in a 4 bedroom house. They had bunk beds all over the place and it was overflowing with filth.

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  Department Of Defense on Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:14 pm

    BTRfan wrote:Typical Jewish propaganda that we hear in the West.


    I am assuming you are Jewish coz I can't be Catholic & Jewish at the same time .

    BTRfan wrote:Along the lines of "they do work Americand won't do" when referring to construction, day labor, agriculture, etc, in the USA.

    You are speaking out of your a$$ . This and the rest of what you have written are your Jewish propaganda .


    BTRfan wrote:A White man may not mind sharing a house with two or three friends, perhaps even 5 to a house .

    So you are Jewish and Gay . Jewish + Gay = Basket Case


    I certainly do mind as does all the other "White men" in my neighborhood .


    BTRfan wrote:Down the road in another neighborhood they found 32 Chinese living in a 4 bedroom house. They had bunk beds all over the place and it was overflowing with filth.

    Seems you have friends at all the low places .

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  BTRfan on Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:35 pm

    Department Of Defense wrote:
    BTRfan wrote:Typical Jewish propaganda that we hear in the West.


    I am assuming you are Jewish coz I can't be Catholic & Jewish at the same time .

    BTRfan wrote:Along the lines of "they do work Americand won't do" when referring to construction, day labor, agriculture, etc, in the USA.

    You are speaking out of your a$$ . This and the rest of what you have written are your Jewish propaganda .


    BTRfan wrote:A White man may not mind sharing a house with two or three friends, perhaps even 5 to a house .

    So you are Jewish and Gay . Jewish + Gay = Basket Case


    I certainly do mind as does all the other "White men" in my neighborhood .


    BTRfan wrote:Down the road in another neighborhood they found 32 Chinese living in a 4 bedroom house. They had bunk beds all over the place and it was overflowing with filth.

    Seems you have friends at all the low places .



    I think you're just a filthy Jewish mongrel who likes to make shit up.


    Calling other members homosexuals should be an offense.



    You've already made it clear in another thread that you're a Jew.

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    Re: Talking bollocks thread

    Post  BTRfan on Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:39 pm

    Department Of Defense wrote:


    BTRfan wrote:Down the road in another neighborhood they found 32 Chinese living in a 4 bedroom house. They had bunk beds all over the place and it was overflowing with filth.

    Seems you have friends at all the low places .



    Jews are supposed to be good with numbers/math.


    If you have 32 Chinamen living in one house, even if the monthly payment on the house is $2,000 or $3,000 dollars [in other words- a very upscale house], they can each kick in around $80 to $100 dollars and easily make the payment.


    So no, it isn't a "low place" it is an upscale area that was cheapened by the presence of 32 Chinese peasants who lived in one house and trashed the place until the authorities found out how many people they had under one roof.

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