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    Re: IRAN: Latest and Breaking News

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:56 pm

    ShahryarHedayatiSHBA wrote:Iran's power rises, with or without deal


    By Stephen Collinson, CNN





    Washington (CNN)Deal or no deal in the Iranian nuclear talks, Tehran is already behaving like it's made a killing.

    Sure, U.S. and international sanctions inflicted staggering damage on Iran's economy, convincing the longtime American foe to join talks aimed at limiting its nuclear program. Those talks face an important Tuesday night deadline.

    But it's not just Iran's nuclear aspirations that have everyone's attention -- though just the fact that Iranian officials are at the table with the world's most powerful countries has elevated Iran's international status.

    Getting the bomb would greatly magnify its regional -- even global -- role, but Tehran is also making big moves in a tumultuous Great Game of Middle East geopolitics that is challenging U.S influence and prestige and chilling Washington's allies.


    As it engages on its nuclear program, Tehran has exploited the divisions of the Arab Spring and the power vacuum of America's downgraded involvement in the region. It has also taken advantage of the leeway the United States offered in prioritizing a nuclear deal over attempts to restrain Tehran's proxies that could risk breaking up the negotiations.

    The result is that Iran -- often through militant groups it sponsors -- has become a key player in conflicts in neighboring states all the way to the edge of the Mediterranean.

    Its drive for regional pre-eminence is becoming an increasing problem for the Obama administration as it contemplates selling a nuclear deal -- which is already drawing considerable skepticism -- to opponents in Congress and to anxious allies like Saudi Arabia and Israel, who are watching Iran's maneuvering up close.


    Critics are accusing President Barack Obama of turning a blind eye toward Iran's nefarious motives and proxy wars in the Middle East to safeguard a legacy-enhancing push for a deal that could lift his presidency's historic potential after decades of hostility between Washington and Tehran.

    They fear Iran is not only about to walk away with a deal that leaves its nuclear infrastructure intact, but that it is also playing the United States for a fool by using the talks to shield its hegemonic ambitions in the Middle East.

    "They have completely schooled the American and European diplomats," said Michael Rubin, an Iran analyst and critic of the administration at the American Enterprise Institute.

    "The Iranians used to brag that they play chess and we play checkers. It turns out that they play chess, while we play solitaire."

    Iranian proxies

    Iran has used its Revolutionary Guard Corps and a host of proxies to fill the power gap left by the U.S. departure from Iraq and the political tumult stirred by the collapse of authoritarian governments felled by now-defunct popular reform movements.

    "Iran was destined to expand its influence one way or the other, and the U.S. was not going to prevent that, especially because of the cost involved in trying to pacify Iraq," said Reva Bhalla, vice president of global analysis at Stratfor, a global intelligence and advisory firm.

    "Iran benefited from the Arab Spring as well."

    Iran has also seen an opportunity in the U.S.'s shifting policies and interests in the region. The George W. Bush administration pushed out the regional strongman in Iraq, Saddam Hussein, who kept Iran in check through a hostile balance-of-power arrangement. The subsequent collapse of the Iraqi state left a festering sectarian stew that Tehran was quick to use to forge links in Shiite areas.

    And Obama, in addition to withdrawing American forces from Iraq, has sought a lighter touch in hot spots like Syria, Yemen and Libya, where chaos has created an opening for outside fighters and radical domestic groups to swoop in.

    The regional meltdown that has seen governance collapse and national borders redrawn on sectarian lines has provided a potent breeding ground for radical, stateless Islamic groups — like ISIS -- to grow and threaten both U.S. and Iranian national interests.

    So the Obama administration also sees a common interest with Iran in fighting ISIS. But some critics say its desire to do so has blinded it to Iran's activities elsewhere.

    White House assessments

    This has left the White House in the uncomfortable position of having to explain why the United States appears to be tacitly cooperating with Iran, with which it has waged a de facto ideological war for 30 years.

    Senior U.S. officials deny they are going soft on Iran to keep Tehran sweet on nuclear talks. They say the negotiations are walled off from concerns about Iran's aggressive moves elsewhere. And they point out that Tehran would be much more dangerous to its neighbors if it were able to build a bomb.


    "Even if a nuclear deal is reached, our concerns about Iran's behavior in the region and around the world will endure," White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough told the J Street policy conference last week, slamming Iran as a state sponsor of terrorism, a proliferator and a gross violator of human rights that seeks to destabilize its neighbors.

    Several U.S. allies in the region, watching Iran's growing influence, worry that whatever berth the United States is giving Iran, it goes well beyond the nuclear talks and the fight against ISIS.

    Instead, they fear the beginning of a wider détente with Iran that some are calling a "Persian pivot."

    Saudi concerns

    Saudi Ambassador to the United States Adel al-Jubeir told CNN that Riyadh was "concerned about the interference by Iran in the affairs of other countries in the region, whether it is in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen."

    Obama's domestic foes are less diplomatic.

    "I heard repeatedly from leaders in the region that they believe we are forming some kind of Faustian bargain with the Iranians which would then lead to great danger to those countries," Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona said last week.

    "They believe that we are siding with Iran."

    The former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, warned on Fox News on Sunday that Iran was "on the march" across the Middle East and that the administration response was one of "willful ignorance."

    But a senior Obama administration official on Monday denied that Washington wanted the wider accommodation with Iran that its allies fear.


    "The critics look at this as some part of a grand détente or reconciliation -- that by getting this deal we will turn another cheek or grant them carte blanche," said the official, who was not authorized to talk publicly about the nuclear talks.

    "We have been and we remain just as concerned."

    And at the same time that it holds marathon talks with Iran, Washington is backing its ally Saudi Arabia and a Sunni coalition that is bombarding Iranian-backed Shiite Houthi militias in Yemen.

    In Syria, the United States wants close Iranian ally President Bashar al-Assad gone after his murderous rampage against his own people.

    But many Washington observers believe the United States has stepped back from the region and interpret the increasingly assertive military actions of Sunni states such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt as a sign that they feel Iran already has the upper hand. They see the Saudi coalition's assault on the Houthis as a signal, not just to Iran, but to Washington.

    "Our traditional Arab allies are apoplectic. We are involved against ISIS in Syria but essentially did nothing in the past three years as the Houthis took over Yemen," said David Schenker, a former Bush administration official now with the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.


    The Saudis are using Yemen to send messages "to Iran and to a lesser extent to us about their lack of confidence in the American security blanket being able to protect them from Iran's machinations in the region," said Stephen Seche, a former U.S. Ambassador to Yemen.

    The White House said it has no illusions on Iran's motives, but argued that the painful lessons of the last decade show a huge U.S. military operation in the Middle East is unlikely to reshape its politics.

    "It's definitely a regional power struggle," said the senior administration official, stressing that Iran's strategy dates from well before either the Arab Spring or the Iraq war, all the way back to the 1979 Islamic Revolution itself.

    "It's a geostrategic play to use these groups as pressure points, in some cases playing on Shiite grievances but also just to increase pressure on the Saudi border," said the official.

    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry has been spearheading negotiations on a possible deal to rein in Iran's nuclear program.

    The administration insists that a large-scale reintroduction of U.S. forces to the Middle East is not the correct policy response.

    "It is going to be dictated by individual countries and the particular circumstances and what is the U.S. interest there," the official said.

    And the administration is not alone in believing the United States has a limited ability to influence what happens in the region.

    "We can do things at the margins to help this side, reinforce that side, train another, arm another. So the U.S. position is likely to be quite modest," said Richard Haass, chairman of the Council of Foreign Relations.

    And Justin Logan, a specialist in geopolitics at the Cato Institute, warned that the United States must not get involved in the "pathological politics" of the region.

    The idea that a proxy struggle between the Gulf Arabs and the Iranians can be effectively managed by the United States defies both logic and history," he said.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/31/politics/irans-influence-nuclear-deal/

    You can tell the author of the article is a sorry Neo-Con, meanwhile no one wants to mention Israeli nukes, or the political prisoner Mordechai Vanunu.
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    Re: IRAN: Latest and Breaking News

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:18 am

    So apparently there isn't any deal at all and it all fell through. Guess Russia has no choice but to try and work closer with Iran regardless of what west says and both sides (Iran and Russia) needs to work out joint payment system and way both countries can deal. Since both Russia and Iran access the Caspian sea, Trade shouldn't be a problem.

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    Re: IRAN: Latest and Breaking News

    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA on Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:35 am

    sepheronx wrote:So apparently there isn't any deal at all and it all fell through.  Guess Russia has no choice but to try and work closer with Iran regardless of what west says and both sides (Iran and Russia) needs to work out joint payment system and way both countries can deal.  Since both Russia and Iran access the Caspian sea, Trade shouldn't be a problem.

    Minor issues remain on Iran bans in nuclear talks: Iran negotiator



    A senior member of Iran’s nuclear negotiating team says Tehran and the P5+1 group of countries have reached an agreement on the removal of anti-Tehran sanctions, but minor issues still remain.



    Hamid Baeidinejad, who is the director general for political and international security affairs at Iran's Foreign Ministry, told the Press TV correspondent in Lausanne that Tehran and the six states - Russia, China, France, Britain, the US and Germany - are working to minimize the difference on the remaining minor issues regarding the bans.

    "Sanctions have many aspects, there are unilateral sanctions, US sanctions, EU sanctions, UNSC sanctions... I should say that many of these aspects have been resolved, but still there are some limited areas that also need to be resolved, and we are now concentrating on those remaining technical aspects with regard to the sanctions.” Baeidinejad told Press TV.

    He added that oil, gas, and banking sanctions will be lifted as soon as a comprehensive deal is implemented, noting, “The termination of oil sanctions, gas sanctions, financial banking... many of them have been resolved... But still there are a limited number of areas that are still under negotiations, which we hope we can resolve them and then we can admit that the whole issue of sanctions is resolved.”

    "We are now concentrating on some limited aspects of issues related to the overall sanctions, particularly sanctions of the UNSC, and only we are concentrating on those limited aspects now," Baeidinejad added.

    The senior Iranian diplomat said the talks will continue until the two sides can make the “final decision” on ways to solve the nuclear issue, adding that the Iranian negotiators will only accept an agreement, which will be based on international regulations and guarantee the “basic rights of the nation.”

    Iran and the P5+1 group were supposed to reach an agreement by late Tuesday as part of broader efforts to clinch a final agreement on Tehran nuclear activities by end of June.

    Ministerial delegations held three rounds of talks Tuesday in the Swiss city of Lausanne in hope of reaching the agreement, but talks still continue with some reports suggesting that negotiations may be extended into Wednesday.

    Iran and the P5+1 group are working intensely to narrow their differences and hammer out a final comprehensive accord by the end of June 2015.

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    http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/03/31/404150/Minor-issues-remain-on-sanctions-Iran

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    Re: IRAN: Latest and Breaking News

    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA on Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:49 am

    'Iran is placing guided warheads on Hezbollah rockets'

    Jerusalem Post

    Col. Aviram Hasson, of the Defense Ministry's missile defense administration says Hezbollah gets a lot of accurate weapons from Iran.

    Iran is placing guided warheads on its rockets and smuggling them to Hezbollah in Lebanon, a senior Defense Ministry official said Tuesday.

    Speaking at the Israel Air and Missile Defense Conference in Herzliya, Col. Aviram Hasson, who is involved in preparing IDF air defenses, said Iran was converting Zilzal unguided rockets into accurate, guided M-600 projectiles by upgrading their warheads.

    Hasson, who is in charge of upper-tier missile defenses at HOMA – part of the Defense Ministry’s Administration for the Development of Weapons and Technological Infrastructure – described Iran as a “train engine that is not stopping for a moment. Wink
    It is manufacturing new and advanced ballistic missiles and cruise missiles. It is turning unguided rockets that had an accuracy range of kilometers into weapons that are accurate to within meters.”


    Hezbollah, he continued, “is getting a lot of accurate weapons from Iran. It is in a very different place compared to the Second Lebanon War in 2006.”

    For Israel, the “ultimate defense is a combination of counter-attack, active defenses, and passive defense [civilian compliance with Home Front Command safety instructions],” he argued.

    Riki Ellison, founder and chairman of the US Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance, also spoke at the conference, which was organized by the iHLS defense website and the Israel Missile Defense Association.

    The alliance is a nonprofit organization advocating for the deployment and development of missile defenses.

    Ellison said the US always kept at least one warship in the Mediterranean with an Aegis naval missile defense system to ensure that Israel was protected against long-range Iranian ballistic missiles.

    “It can stand off the coast and shoot long-shots coming in from Iran,” he said.

    The US is keen to see Israel complete its multi-layered blanket of missile defenses, which would enable it to defend against Iranian missiles without the Aegis and thereby free up the US Navy’s ships for deployment elsewhere, he added.

    Ellison told the delegates that the US remained firmly committed to Israel’s security, irrespective of recent disagreements between President Barack Obama and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

    He added that the US could deploy its Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) batteries “if necessary, to come into Israel to support your country’s defense.”

    America is “fully supportive” of Israel getting fully capable Arrow 3 and David’s Sling defense systems, Ellison said.

    'Iran is placing guided warheads on Hezbollah rockets' - Israel News - Jerusalem Post

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Iran-is-placing-guided-warheads-on-Hezbollah-rockets-395679

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    Re: IRAN: Latest and Breaking News

    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA on Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:51 am

    First on CNN: Iranian aircraft buzzes Navy helicopter in Persian Gulf


    CNN ^ | March 31, 2015 | Barbara Starr

    Posted on ‎3‎/‎31‎/‎2015‎ ‎1‎:‎32‎:‎18‎ ‎PM by don-o

    An Iranian military observation aircraft flew within 50 yards of an armed U.S. Navy helicopter over the Persian Gulf this month, sparking concern that top Iranian commanders might not be in full control of local forces, CNN has learned.

    The incident, which has not been publicly disclosed, troubled U.S. military officials because the unsafe maneuver could have triggered a serious incident.

    It also surprised U.S. commanders because in recent months Iranian forces have conducted exercises and operations in the region in a professional manner, one U.S. military official told CNN.

    "We think this might have been locally ordered," the official said.


    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3274233/posts

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    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA on Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:35 pm

    Iran, P5+1 joint statement calling for removal of all anti-Iran sanctions


    Thu Apr 2, 2015 5:38PM



    European Union’s foreign policy chief, Federica Mogherini (L), and Iran's Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif, take part in a joint press conference in the Swiss city of Lausanne on Thursday.


    Iran and the P5+1 group of world powers have adopted a joint statement after marathon talks in the Swiss city of Lausanne calling, among other things, for the removal of UNSC resolutions and sanctions against the Islamic Republic.

    The statement was read out in a joint press conference in the Swiss city by the EU high representative, Federica Mogherini, and Iran's Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif on Thursday.

    In the framework of the agreement, none of Iran’s nuclear facilities as well as the previous activities will be stopped, shut down or suspended and Iran’s nuclear activities in all its nuclear facilities including Natanz, Fordow, Isfahan and Arak will continue.

    These comprehensive solutions will guarantee the continued enrichment program inside the Iranian territory and according to this, Iran will be allowed to go on with industrial production of nuclear fuel which is meant for running its nuclear power plants.

    According to the solutions, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) for enrichment program will cover a 10-year period, during which more than 5,000 centrifuge machines will continue producing enriched material at Natanz facility up to the 3.67-percent level. Extra machines and the related infrastructure in the facility will be collected by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in order to be replaced by new machines consistent with the allowed standards. Accordingly, Iran will be allowed to allocate the current stockpile of enriched materials for the purpose of producing nuclear fuel or swapping it with uranium in the international markets.



    Iran will continue research and development program on advanced centrifuge machines and will be also able to keep initiating and completing its R & D program on IR-4, IR-5, IR-6 and IR-8 machines in the 10-year period of the agreement.

    Fordow facility

    According to the joint statement, Fordow nuclear facility will be turned into a research center for nuclear science and physics. More than 1,000 centrifuges will be maintained at this facility and two centrifuge cascades will keep operating. In cooperation with the P5+1 countries, about half of the Fordow facility will be dedicated to advanced nuclear research and production of stable isotopes which have important applications in industry, agriculture and medicine.

    Arak heavy water reactor

    According to the statement, the heavy water reactor in the Iranian city of Arak will remain in place but will be redesigned and updated. The redesigning process will greatly increase efficiency of the reactor while reducing the amount of plutonium produced in the facility. The redesigning process will be done according to defined scheduled as an international project with cooperation of Iran. Production of fuel for Arak reactor and awarding international nuclear fuel production certificate will be among international cooperation to be offered to Iran.

    Additional Protocol

    Iran will implement the Additional Protocol temporarily and voluntarily in line with its confidence-building measures and after that the protocol will be ratified in a time frame by the Iranian government and parliament (Majlis).

    Removal of Sanctions

    Following the implementation of the JPCOA, all the UN Security Council sanctions as well as all economic and financial embargoes by the US and the European Union, including bans on banks, insurance, investment, and all other related services in different fields, including petrochemical, oil, gas and automobile industries will be lifted. Besides, all nuclear-related sanctions against real and legal entities, state and private organizations and institutions, including those sanctions imposed against the Central Bank of Iran, other financial and banking institutions, SWIFT system, and the country’s shipping and aviation sectors, and Iran's tanker company will be immediately lifted all at once. Moreover, the P5+1 countries are committed to avoid imposing any new nuclear-related sanctions against Iran.

    International Cooperation

    Iran’s international nuclear cooperation, including with the member states of the P5+1 will be possible and promoted in the fields of building nuclear power plants, research reactors, nuclear fusion, stable isotopes, nuclear safety, nuclear medicine and agriculture. According to the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, Iran will be provided with access to global market as well as international trade, finance, technical knowledge and energy.

    Schedule for implementing JCPOA

    At the end of these negotiations, the two sides will start drafting the JCPOA in the near future to meet the July 1 deadline. Once the text is finalized, the JCPOA will be adopted as a UN Security Council resolution. For the JCPOA to be binding for all UN member states, the resolution will be adopted under the Article 41 of Chapter Seven of the UN Charter to be able to render previous resolutions against Iran null and void.

    The joint statement released at the end of eight days of intensive negotiations in Lausanne on Thursday is a sign that Iran and its negotiating partners have come to a mutual understanding over Iran’s nuclear program.

    Representatives of Iran and the P5+1 group of countries -- the United States, Britain, China, France and Russia plus Germany – along with senior officials of the European Union have held talks over the past years to narrow the existing differences on Tehran’s nuclear activities.

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    http://presstv.ir/Detail/2015/04/02/404427/Iran-P51-adopt-joint-statement


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    Re: IRAN: Latest and Breaking News

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:40 pm

    Go Iran!!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: IRAN: Latest and Breaking News

    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA on Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:49 pm

    Obama Says U.S., Iran Have Reached ‘Historic Understanding’

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/obama-sa...ing-1428002263



    John Kerry on Iran nuclear talks: agreement is a 'solid foundation' - live updates

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/liv...cement-eu-live




    Iran talks: Awaiting history, reporters Twitter away the hours
    http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Midd...ting-history-reporters-Twitter-away-the-hours





    Iran Nuclear Talks: World Leaders Reach Framework on Iran Deal
    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ir...foreign-minister-says-found-solutions-n334706




    Obama: Historic deal reached on Iran nuclear program
    http://rt.com/usa/246357-obama-iran-nuclear-deal/


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    Re: IRAN: Latest and Breaking News

    Post  sepheronx on Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:00 am

    I find it suspicious how quick in recent months to push an agreement on western end. Especially after Russia and Irans warming relations. I am suspiciois of this. I think it is a method by the west to quickly snap up Iran away from Russia and China interests. I think in coming months you will see major oil and gas deals with Iran from west, as well as military tech deals, and Iran will effectively move towards the west and may attempt to move away from any Russian deals. This is my speculation. Dangerous game really and hopefully Iran knows what kinda game the west is playing.
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    Post  flamming_python on Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:14 am

    sepheronx wrote:I find it suspicious how quick in recent months to push an agreement on western end. Especially after Russia and Irans warming relations. I am suspiciois of this. I think it is a method by the west to quickly snap up Iran away from Russia and China interests. I think in coming months you will see major oil and gas deals with Iran from west, as well as military tech deals, and Iran will effectively move towards the west and may attempt to move away from any Russian deals. This is my speculation. Dangerous game really and hopefully Iran knows what kinda game the west is playing.

    My suspicions too; only I doubt it will be successful - and also it will be more of a detente than an outright attempted absorbtion of Iran into the Western sphere.

    Iran and the West have too many other outstanding issues for any sort of grand agreement to be able to achieve success anytime soon. The quagmire in Syria, tensions with Israel & the Gulf Arabs, Iranian assistance to Hezbollah and now the erupting conflict in Yemen.
    On all of these issues Iran and Europe/America stand on opposite sides of the divide - even if a deal on the nuclear issue is reached, the rest of these things aren't going to disappear.

    What I think America may be playing at, is establishing a policy of detente with the Iranians; that won't aim to solve all the contradicitons in relations instantly and get Iran to switch its bets from Russia/China to the West - or rather, at least not immediately.

    Instead the immediate objective would likely be to secure Iran's neutrality vis-a-vis America's tensions with Russia and China, and to make sure that it won't start new problems on America's flanks while the US is dealing with the Russia problem.
    A new Iranian-Western understanding would allow tensions to be contained and gradually start dying down. And also, a potential new source of gas supplies for the EU, seperate from Russia.

    With the Nuclear deal and lifting of sanctions, the West has made the first step, and are now waiting for the Iranians to repocriate.

    But really, I doubt the Iranians would fall for it. They are rather distrusting of everyone; including Russia and China; they are not close to any world power - but at the same time they definately recognize that there is much for them to gain from Russia's and China's rise, and on most world issues they find themselves in alignment.
    In other words, there is simply too little incentive for Iran's neutrality, and to stop creating problems for America at a time when its influence in the Middle East has been rapidly rising. Moreover, the Iranians do not the trust the Americans one bit - given the US's behaviour of smiling one minute and then launching an intervention or supporting rebels against their partners the next, as well as never forgetting to exact vengence against those who slighted them - it's probably a wise policy. If the West is successful with dealing with Russia - how do the Iranians know that they won't be the next in line - despite any agreements made?
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    Post  sepheronx on Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:09 am

    Pentagon Chief: We Might Bomb Iran Even if Nuclear Deal Reached Read more: http://sputniknews.com/us/20150402/1020395567.html#ixzz3WCEayFzJ
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    Re: IRAN: Latest and Breaking News

    Post  crod on Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:28 am

    So how long before Russia and whoever can begin selling what they wish?

    http://presstv.ir/Detail/2015/04/02/404427/Iran-P51-adopt-joint-statement


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    Post  Zivo on Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:37 am

    Now, Russian needs to start dumping weapons on Iran. Just go freakin' nuts, SELL SELL SELL!

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    Re: IRAN: Latest and Breaking News

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:52 am

    People! Did everyone forget the battle hasn't even begun? It still has to be ratified by US Congress before they can lift the sanctions, which it will be close to impossible, the Republicans are firmly in the Pro-Israel camp, the House and the Senate both have Republican majorities who are in fact very hostile towards Iran.

    If anything the highest chance for it failing has now just started.
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    Post  TR1 on Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:01 am

    Well, no problem with S-300s now.
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    Post  crod on Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:35 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:People! Did everyone forget the battle hasn't even begun? It still has to be ratified by US Congress before they can lift the sanctions, which it will be close to impossible, the Republicans are firmly in the Pro-Israel camp, the House and the Senate both have Republican majorities who are in fact very hostile towards Iran.

    If anything the highest chance for it failing has now just started.

    Will be interesting but 4+1 agree if the yanks scupper this now they'll be left behind. Also, and need to check this with US members on here, but the Prssident can veto their veto I think? Or I might be well off the mark here...

    Immediate financial gain through petro dollars and banking sector. Europe will be walking around with hard ons just thinking of the financial award awaiting, which of course will help their struggling economies.

    Next few weeks we should all know more but the fact the Israelis are screaming blue murder already is enough to tell me the deal is good.

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    Post  Zivo on Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:44 am

    If Congress doesn't accept the deal, Obama said “it is the U.S. that will be blamed for the failure of diplomacy.”
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:07 am

    crod wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:People! Did everyone forget the battle hasn't even begun? It still has to be ratified by US Congress before they can lift the sanctions, which it will be close to impossible, the Republicans are firmly in the Pro-Israel camp, the House and the Senate both have Republican majorities who are in fact very hostile towards Iran.

    If anything the highest chance for it failing has now just started.

    Will be interesting but 4+1 agree if the yanks scupper this now they'll be left behind. Also, and need to check this with US members on here, but the Prssident can veto their veto I think? Or I might be well off the mark here...

    Immediate financial gain through petro dollars and banking sector. Europe will be walking around with hard ons just thinking of the financial award awaiting, which of course will help their struggling economies.

    Next few weeks we should all know more but the fact the Israelis are screaming blue murder already is enough to tell me the deal is good.

    Very Happy

    ...One only has to look at the other major nuclear deal signed nearly 20 years ago, the so called 'Nuclear Test Ban Treaty', the US signed it back in 1996 and US Congress conscientiously made a decision not to ratify it. The likeliness that this will succeed while the other one failed is extremely-low.
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    Post  crod on Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:06 am

    Hmmm, yes reading the U.S. Papers it would look like the real fight to make this work will take place within the U.S. itself...tragic if the Jewish lobbyists scupper this deal. Sad that America is so openly and crudely controlled by Israel.

    Bibi is a mad dog of that there is little doubt. But I guess if there is no threat, no war, Israel becomes irrelevant with dwindling international support. Dangerous situation for them but one of their own making.
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    Post  max steel on Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:29 pm

    When Iran "Deal" Falls Apart, The Pentagon Is Ready: America's Most Destructive "Bunker Buster" Gets An Upgrade


    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-04/when-iran-deal-falls-apart-pentagon-ready-americas-most-destructive-bunker-buster-ge


    The MOP is so strong, the WSJ compares its destructive force to a nuclear weapon:

    Those upgraded electronic countermeasures, combined with improvements to the weapon’s guidance systems, will allow the weapon to be targeted with a precision previously possible only for far smaller guided bombs in the U.S. arsenal, the officials said. Steering two or more massive ordnance penetrators to a single entry point would have a devastating effect never before seen by a nonnuclear weapon, the officials said.



    The White House has repeatedly said that Mr. Obama will need to look at other options if the nuclear talks break down. “If you say all options are on the table, you have to have something on the table that’s credible,” a senior U.S. official said.










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    Post  max steel on Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:09 pm

    WikiLeaks US diplomatic cables reveal that Iran is NOT arming the Houthi freedom fighters, its pure Saudi-US Axis propaganda.





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    Post  sepheronx on Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:51 am

    Iran invites US, European companies to invest in its industries — ministry

    I called it.  First people they run to in order for investments are EU and US.  At least if the sanctions are lifted. Maybe though, it isn't much to this other than an attempt to "bring to light" what benefits there are to lifting Iran sanctions. This is possible.
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    Post  Werewolf on Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:47 am

    sepheronx wrote:Iran invites US, European companies to invest in its industries — ministry

    I called it.  First people they run to in order for investments are EU and US.  At least if the sanctions are lifted.  Maybe though, it isn't much to this other than an attempt to "bring to light" what benefits there are to lifting Iran sanctions.  This is possible.

    I just hope it is not the 5th column that is pushing towards US despite that the entire West is against Iran with their onesided policy.
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    Post  sepheronx on Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:58 am

    Werewolf wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Iran invites US, European companies to invest in its industries — ministry

    I called it.  First people they run to in order for investments are EU and US.  At least if the sanctions are lifted.  Maybe though, it isn't much to this other than an attempt to "bring to light" what benefits there are to lifting Iran sanctions.  This is possible.

    I just hope it is not the 5th column that is pushing towards US despite that the entire West is against Iran with their onesided policy.

    Who knows.  Iran is probably just showing what there is to offer if they lift sanctions so I cannot blame them.  But hopefully they wont get their hopes up nor just jump to them in everything.  Iran has a very self building ideology and I doubt they will jump to anyone.  But they may not entirely be fond of Russia because of Russia not helping them during the rougher periods.  Now US and EU wants to bring them into their sphere even if there are far too many contradictions and outstanding issues/conflicts. I imagine Russia will also be given the same exact privileges to invest in Iran's energy and steel industry. At least that is what Iranian government said months ago.

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    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA on Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:14 pm

    Israel official: Military action against Iran still possible
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    JERUSALEM — A senior Israeli government minister on Monday warned that taking military action against Iran’s nuclear program is still an option — despite last week’s framework deal between world powers and the Islamic Republic.

    The comments by Yuval Steinitz, Israel’s minister for strategic affairs, reflected the alarm in Israel over last week’s deal, which offers Iran relief from economic sanctions in exchange for scaling back its suspect nuclear program. Israeli leaders believe the framework leaves too much of Iran’s nuclear infrastructure intact and could still allow it to develop the means to produce a nuclear weapon.

    Steinitz, a confidant of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s, said the government would spend the coming months lobbying the world powers negotiating with Iran to strengthen the language in the deal as they hammer out a final agreement. While stressing that Israel prefers a diplomatic solution, he said the “military option” still exists.

    “It was on the table. It’s still on the table. It’s going to remain on the table,” Steinitz told reporters. “Israel should be able to defend itself, by itself, against any threat. And it’s our right and duty to decide how to defend ourselves, especially if our national security and even very existence is under threat.”

    Israel considers a nuclear-armed Iran to be a threat to its survival, pointing to years of Iranian calls for Israel’s destruction, its support for anti-Israeli militant groups and its development of long-range ballistic missiles that could be armed with nuclear warheads. Israel — which is widely believed to be a nuclear power — says a nuclear-armed Iran would set off an arms race in the world’s most volatile region.

    The framework agreement was announced last Thursday in Switzerland after years of negotiations between Iran and world powers.

    The deal aims to cut significantly into Iran’s bomb-making technology while giving Tehran relief from international sanctions. The commitments, if implemented, would substantially pare down Iranian nuclear assets for a decade and restrict others for an additional five years. Iran would also be subject to intrusive international inspections.


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/israel-official-military-action-against-iran-still-possible/2015/04/06/c6ed62f0-dc6c-11e4-b6d7-b9bc8acf16f7_story.html

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