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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:08 pm

    Looks like UVZ has been busy in Iran:

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    New Iranian Karrar tank appeared like a T-90cm
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    Post  lulldapull on Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:15 am

    Two of these 'Owj' types with reheat can power a small Yak-130 clone like 'Shafagh' to Mach 1.5 and beyond easily.

    The observation that the base for this Owj was the J-85 is possibly also correct.

    Nothing wrong with taking a successful design like the J-85 and modifying it for modern use.

    Bavar looks outstanding.............now my assumption is that it will have Buk/ SM-3/ Sayad like capability.

    Iran needs to roll out this Shafagh to really join the club of combat aircraft producers.
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    Post  airstrike on Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:46 pm

    Iran to mass-produce newly introduced ballistic missile

    http://echelon-defense.com/2016/09/28/iran-to-mass-produce-newly-introduced-ballistic-missile/
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    Post  KiloGolf on Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:17 pm

    nemrod wrote:AFAIK they already produce their own Azarakhsh -around 400- and Saequeh -around 200- with their own jet engines

    Emmm no... these numbers are pure fantasy.
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    Post  George1 on Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:19 pm

    Iran Presents Home-Made Multifunctional Saba-248 Helicopter

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    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201703071051344375-iran-new-helicopter/


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    Post  mack8 on Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:57 pm

    Today some more "achievements" unveiled in Iran, among them a taxying demonstration of the Qaher-313. As an aviation enthusiast i am stunned (but perhaps i should be not, given their track record) that the mullahs actually went ahead and ordered the dreadful Qaher mock-up propaganda fiasco of 2013 to be fitted with engines and taxied around. It's dreadful to watch what they've done, purely for propaganda reasons, like they can actually fool anyone with a few working neurons... do they think the iranian citizens are that dumb to believe this?

    PS: if only what some say about this being actually a (subscale?) demonstrator for something larger, powered by RD-33 engine(s) in the class of F-35, would be true... but won't hold my breath. Even if so, it's still a pathetically poor model and equally so the propaganda around it. It should have not taken four years to get it to this stage, if this was really the plan from the beggining. So far still what Babak Taghvaee says makes the most sense, the mullahs ordered the mock-up to be fitted with engines and shown again purely for propaganda reasons (now with the iranian "elections").



    However, the Kowsar-88 trainer looks fairly OK, nothing groundbreaking, but if they actually work competently on it (but the above example of this Qaher is not encouraging) and get it in the air, tested and then introduced in service, it will actually be a creditable achievement of Iran's aerospace industry, THIS would be a respectable aircraft in it's class. Never mind now venting spleen about why the *** did they not carried on with developing and building the Tazarve, and going on about the now defunct Shafaq (a huge missed opportunity) and so on and so on...



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    Post  lulldapull on Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:15 am

    yes, this Qaher looks to be a half scale prototype. There's something about this design that just don't look right.

    The least they could've done was to copy the F-35 fuselage/ wings. Looks like a test bed more than anything else.

    Iran needs to inject serious money into its aerospace sector. The Kowser trainer however looks pretty straight forward.
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    Post  medo on Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:39 pm

    It looks like production of domestic turbojet engine Owj, which is a clone of J85, gives a big push for Iranian aircraft projects. This trainer Kowsar-88 most probably use Owj engines without afterburners and two engines will give enough trust to this simple plane. F-313 looks to have those engines as well.
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    Post  George1 on Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:32 am



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    Post  George1 on Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:34 am

    Kosar-88

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    Ghaher-313

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    Post  lulldapull on Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:39 am

    However people want to portray it but this Qaher is a bold attempt at plugging a massive capability gap in the IRIAF.

    Hopefully the next design doesn't look so comical. That kowser trainer looks close to the south Korean AT3? Not bad for a first attempt.

    The way its going, there is no doubt Iran will be the preeminent power in the middle east. No other country in that region has indigenous capability like Iran does.
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    Post  lulldapull on Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:43 am

    AIM-54E clone?

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    Post  George1 on Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:53 am

    lulldapull wrote:AIM-54E clone?

    Yes
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    Post  lulldapull on Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:00 am

    just my opinion, interestingly that the Qaher looks more like a manned stealth attack drone, than a warplane.
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    Post  George1 on Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:09 pm

    Iranian aviation rocket Shafagh

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    The AH-1J helicopter upgraded in Iran under the Toufan-2 program with the Shafagh missile.

    The Shafagh air-to-surface missile was based on the Shahab Thaqeb anti-aircraft missile (an Iranian missile copy for Chinese FM-80 / HQ-7 missile systems) with the installation of a new guidance system, etc.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3110728.html
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    Post  George1 on Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:20 pm

    In Iran, announced the start of production of fighters Kosar (Kowsar)

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    Tehran, November 3, IRNA - The production line of the first fighter of its own production "Kosar" was launched on Saturday morning in the presence of the Minister of Defense and commander-in-chief of the Iranian army.

    The fighter "Kosar" uses the fourth generation of combat digital data network and is equipped with a heads-up display (HUD) system to increase the impact accuracy of the guns. Also among the equipment of advanced and multi-purpose radar for controlling the fire with increased accuracy of tracking targets.

    http://www.irna.ir/ru/News/3654523

    Let me remind you that this is an Iranian copy of the combat-training version of the American F-5 fighter, which was officially introduced in August of this year, naturally the car has a completely new avionics compared to the original F-5F.

    For greater effect, it seems that all the "Koshars" rolled out now that they are being assembled and tested at the aircraft factory, from the fuselage to the already assembled car, which I think was shown to the Iranian president in August.

    In general, as I already wrote earlier, the chronic under-funding of aviation projects for the Iranian Air Force and the lack of sufficiently powerful modern engines drives the Iranian military aviation industry into an endless cycle of work on upgrading and copying the F-5. On the other hand, under the conditions of actually continuing to act against Iran, UN sanctions banning without the prior consent of the UN Security Council (and this consent is impossible because of the US position) the delivery of many weapons there, including combat aircraft and spare parts for them, Iran has no special choice. remains. To save pilot training, etc. in any case, need airplanes.

    My main question remains about the Iranian copy of the J85-Owj engine, as far as the engine is ready for serial production, since it is supposed to put on them at Kosar.

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    Post  yavar on Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:17 pm

    Iran IRGC Aerospace chief Gen.Hajizadeh: infiltration to command and control American drone UAV data video feeds in Iraq & Syria

    EXCLUSIVE: Iran Penetrates into US Command Center, Picks Up Drones Control
    "Seven to eight drones that had constant flights over Syria and Iraq were brought under our control and their intel was monitored by us and we could gain their first-hand intel," General Hajizadeh said in the Western Iranian city of Hamedan on Thursday.
    The footage below shows IRGC's penetration into US Army's Command Center, one of the many proofs in support of General Hajizadeh's remarks.
    The footage shows a US flying drone starts malfunctioning and makes a rough landing in a desert area 10 kilometers away from its base.
    he US troops avoid approaching the malfunctioning drone as they are not sure who is controling the aircraft, and hence send a manned aircraft to bomb the drone.
    The footage that displays the IRGC's penetration into the US spy drone's intel has been recorded by an IRGC drone flying above the scene.
    http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13971202000650

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    Post  GarryB on Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:24 am

    Intercepting their data and interfering with their toys leading to their destruction... hahaha... sounds like they are having some fun at Americas expense... good stuff... Smile
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    Post  nomadski on Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:00 pm


    I have always said that weak point of drones is data link . So in point defence and short range , data link should be directional LOS laser . For long range , the GPS , should be replaced by navigation by sun and moon . A computer programme establishes position , for any drone , flying at any time from any place . Sun and moon are satellites that give out signals . Like GPS sattelites . With advantage that , they can not be hit with anti - sattelite weapon . They are immune . So our long range drone are guided at first by LPS . Then inertial .
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:26 am

    This is just a case of the arrogant Americans underestimating their enemies...

    I rather suspect the Israelis wont make the same mistakes with the drones they use.

    Certainly they could be much smarter when it comes to encrypted messages to the drone and from the drone to ensure no unauthorised access is possible.

    Simply using coded transmissions for command and control should render it unable to be commandeered by anyone else...
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    Post  nomadski on Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:41 am

    I had  this discussion a long time ago . About encryption and decryption . The Iranians wanted to buy software for diplomatic communication from western sources . So I said that , this is a useless activity . Since they know how to decrypt the software . So we know that  they know . And they know that  we know that they know . And we are going in circles . Any code that is systemic and mathematical can be broken  in time . So all electronic communication , such as radar , can be hacked . In time . That is why even best radar has shelf life . Completely random codes can not be broken . These are simple one off codes . Reset each time .

    Asymmetric response is needed . Fresh thinking . But we are all brainwashed by western culture and fashion and try to play catch up . The brain washed Iranian population also is stuck with symmetry . Copy the west . Our intelligentsia  is brain washed . They are still stuck with problem of buying  Boeing long range plane . For tourism . They dream of becoming like Malaysia or Egypt .

    Imagine the Amish in USA .  They will not use cars or planes .  They are happy with using tools and manpower . Instead of machines . And they are a happy people . They do not feel , hard done by . They are not brain washed by western culture . And there is logic and reason , behind what they do . Left alone , their culture will remain stable and outlast the western culture . If left alone  . Which they might not be , long term . Since they are defenceless .

    Iranians will not accept riding on horses . They are culturally contaminated , like most of the world . But they can stop this useless activity of copying the west . They do not need Boeing . Even other planes . If they have to travel , then get a train to Turkey . Then connecting flight . Or use new prop driven plane , that  they now manufacture , to go local . Or go to Turkey .

    But they are now trying to blindly copy the west .  And manufacture their own long range jet passenger plane . At a time when they  have yet to make a main jet fighter . As a priority . As long as they follow their reason and not their sense of fashion . Make asymmetric  weapons . Including nukes . And follow a good and reasoned life . Then they will outlast the corrupt western influence .


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    Post  GarryB on Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:43 am

    I think it is possible to adopt western technology and developments while rejecting its culture... there is nothing inherently western about the motor car... it is just a natural evolution of a motorised cart... the west did not invent the cart or the wheel.

    Iran, and other countries need to decide what they want, what their values and beliefs will be and not look to the US or the west for leadership... they couldn't lead an orgy in a whore house...

    Just bide your time, keep your head down and when they have self destructed they wont be a problem any more.

    By the way I appreciate your opinion, but suspect you only intended to post it just once so I will delete the other two... Smile
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:48 am

    BTW the encryption method you are referring to is the one time pad... it basically links coded words together... there is a pair... it is used once and never used again... it is unbreakable... unless someone gets a hold of one of the pads.

    One solution is to send garbage 99% of the time with an enormous transmission rate with enormous files, and then when you send an actual message... hide it... but make sure it only has meaning to the person you are sending it to...
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    Post  nomadski on Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:29 pm

    The best method with UAV ,  is to allow for independent passive reception and AI  analysis . There are I think 3D radars that can analyse target and engage . Without need for pilot or operator . Short range directional beams are hard to intercept , and are another method . Any signal picked up, can be , we assume ,unscrambled . Given time and resources . Unless the code used is a one off . Per mission or per device . Randomly generated  each time . And shared only between two devices . Even if one device is compromised  , then this only affects a small number of devices . And not entire system . So say ten long range UAV  , attacking ships at sea , with a pilot flying each , will heve ten different codes , randomly generated , for each UAV . Even each control signal for each move , say left or right , is coded differently . Never the same . And discarded at the end . A lot of code generation . I don't even know if this is possible with live video feed . Needing heavy data transfer .

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