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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  George1 on Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:24 am

    Probably one of the most ambitious engineering projects in Russia’s history: A 19 km (12 miles) road-and-rail bridge to Crimea. Simply known as the Crimean Bridge, or the Kerch Strait Bridge, so far it’s right on schedule and on July 17 the Russian Ministry of Transport announced the massive thoroughfare was 75 percent complete.



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    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:44 pm

    George1 wrote:Probably one of the most ambitious engineering projects in Russia’s history: A 19 km (12 miles) road-and-rail bridge to Crimea. Simply known as the Crimean Bridge, or the Kerch Strait Bridge, so far it’s right on schedule and on July 17 the Russian Ministry of Transport announced the massive thoroughfare was 75 percent complete.



    https://www.rbth.com/multimedia/2017/07/25/the-project-of-the-century-10-facts-about-europes-longest-bridge_810330

    Two lanes on each direction, with no emergency lane, looks a bit tight. Dare I say short-sighted.
    On the other hand having that rail bridge is very smart.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:18 pm


    Two lanes on each direction, with no emergency lane, looks a bit tight. Dare I say short-sighted. 
    On the other hand having that rail bridge is very smart.

    I would say that rail is the main event here, that and all the pipes and cables that can be installed underneath

    Asphalt is a sideshow
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    Post  auslander on Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:13 pm

    Today is Fleet Day in Sevastopol. Great celebrations and a salute at 22:00 the likes of which I haven't seen surpassed except for '14 on 'welcome home to Mother' day.

    Attached is a bit of a vid the orcs made couple years ago assuming that the Black Sea Fleet would leave this berg. Enjoy!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK5xjEhOH4w
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:34 pm

    http://www.stalkerzone.org/oleg-tsarev-life-crimea-ukrainian-rule-life-now/

    Oleg Tsarev on how life in Crimea was under Ukraine rule and now.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:22 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:.........
    Two lanes on each direction, with no emergency lane, looks a bit tight. Dare I say short-sighted.
    On the other hand having that rail bridge is very smart.


    Got this fresh pic and looks to me that there will definitely be lot more lanes on this thing than that CGI promo indicated:
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:22 am

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    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:52 pm

    Bridge railway arc is being moved into position, updates and photos here:

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/97254/
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    Post  franco on Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:58 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:Bridge railway arc is being moved into position, updates and photos here:

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/97254/

    Might have missed it but when does it get lifted into place?
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:47 pm

    franco wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:Bridge railway arc is being moved into position, updates and photos here:

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/97254/

    Might have missed it but when does it get lifted into place?  

    Next couple of days as far as I can tell.

    Heck, maybe even as we speak... sea traffic is on hold and there is already pretty big gridlock
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    Post  franco on Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:18 pm

    Just spotted an Interfax release. Traffic closed until Wednesday so Tuesday probably.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:57 am

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    Yup, they say it should be up in less than 72 hours
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    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:18 pm


    This is how procedure should look like:




    And here are fresh pics, it's ready for ascension:






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    Post  franco on Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:26 pm

    The railway arch of the Kerch bridge was delivered to the channel in the Kerch-Enikalskiy strait, where the second part of the unique operation will begin today - lifting a 6000-ton structure onto the 35-meter-high fairway supports. This information is provided by the information center "Crimean Bridge".

    After loading on the floating supports, a railway arch was transported to the fairway for ten hours by ten boats and tugs. This stage took about an hour and a half. After that, the tugboats changed their arrangement around the floating system and began to "tighten" the structure to the gleam between the fairway supports with the help of cables and pile anchors.

    Now the arch is fixed between the supports, and the builders will have to raise it to a height of 35 meters using a complex system of cables and jacks. But at first the load on the jacks will gradually increase from 5 to 100 percent. For an hour the arch will be weighed on weight, and only after a thorough check of all the units and stitched elements will the further lifting of the structure begin. The climb will be carried out at a speed of five meters per hour. The operation involves lifting equipment (farm lifts and cable jacks) and about 30 specialists - engineers, slingers, welders, surveyors and technical inspectors.

    Until the arch is raised to the design height, the Kerch Strait will continue to operate restrictions on shipping. Approximately the operation itself will end on August 30. But a month will be required at the end of all installation work. And at the end of September, a similar operation is planned for the transportation of the bridge's car arch.

    By the way, despite the hysterical headlines of some Ukrainian media, the operation to install the arch did not paralyze the movement in the Kerch Strait. For example, as of this morning, 28 vessels have accumulated along the channel in anticipation of transit wiring. For comparison, usually about 60 ships pass through the canal each day. But the shipowners and captains of the ports were warned in advance about the installation of the arch and were able to adjust the timetable for the channel.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:15 am

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/97302/

    In the Crimea, planted 700 hectares of vineyards

    In the Crimea this year planted more than 670 hectares of new vineyards.
    "Every year increases the area of new vineyards. In 2016 there will be approximately 560 hectares in the first half of this year — more than 670 hectares by 2020 it is planned to lay 1.5 thousand hectares of solar berries. And although the records of the Soviet time is still far from us, our Peninsula is gradually regaining its former glory," explained in government of the Crimea.
    Now the region has 67 grape growers.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:53 pm


    Google Earth will seriously need to update their pics:



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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:26 pm

    Google has been censoring lots of stuff that doesn't go into the CIA/US/Ukraine narratives, so don't expect them to. But Yandex on the other hand will Smile
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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:15 pm


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    Post  JohninMK on Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:53 am

    Interesting point of view

    When it comes to civic values, Crimea still needs a whole lot of de-Ukrainianization.

    There's a lot of half-hearted patriotism in Crimea. The vast majority of Crimeans identify as Russian, profess patriotism in relation to Russia, and the Crimean population overwhelmingly supported the 2014 re-unification with Russia.

    But what are they actually doing about it? Admittedly, for the first 2 years after the unification, they were doing something about it - you could see people making a conscious effort to be better citizens. There was less loony driving, there were less nutjobs at street-level. There was less sleaze. There was less bribery going on - I know that for a fact.

    But eventually, after all the civic euphoria of the re-unification wears off, people start to relax, and start behaving as if they're still living under Ukrainian jurisdiction - kickbacks, idiot-culture, driving like dickheads, "protecting" their friends, etc, etc....

    They behave like this while ardently professing their patriotism for Russia. Actions speak louder than words.

    In continental Russia, the process of recovering and re-building the country's civic values and sense of discipline after the catastrophe of the 1990's began 20 years ago.

    In Crimea, that process of recovery began 3 years ago. It's going to take a generation. The Crimeans have got a lot of growing up to do. Having lived under Ukrainian jurisdiction for so long, far more than most Russians, large swathes of the Crimean population are still psychologically trapped in the 1990's. It'll take a generation.

    And I know that it's going to annoy some Crimeans to hear that, but there it is.


    http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/09/irish-crimean-crimea-in-dire-need-of-de.html
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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:00 am

    JohninMK wrote:Interesting point of view

    When it comes to civic values, Crimea still needs a whole lot of de-Ukrainianization.

    There's a lot of half-hearted patriotism in Crimea. The vast majority of Crimeans identify as Russian, profess patriotism in relation to Russia, and the Crimean population overwhelmingly supported the 2014 re-unification with Russia.

    But what are they actually doing about it? Admittedly, for the first 2 years after the unification, they were doing something about it - you could see people making a conscious effort to be better citizens. There was less loony driving, there were less nutjobs at street-level. There was less sleaze. There was less bribery going on - I know that for a fact.

    But eventually, after all the civic euphoria of the re-unification wears off, people start to relax, and start behaving as if they're still living under Ukrainian jurisdiction - kickbacks, idiot-culture, driving like dickheads, "protecting" their friends, etc, etc....

    They behave like this while ardently professing their patriotism for Russia. Actions speak louder than words.

    In continental Russia, the process of recovering and re-building the country's civic values and sense of discipline after the catastrophe of the 1990's began 20 years ago.

    In Crimea, that process of recovery began 3 years ago. It's going to take a generation. The Crimeans have got a lot of growing up to do. Having lived under Ukrainian jurisdiction for so long, far more than most Russians, large swathes of the Crimean population are still psychologically trapped in the 1990's. It'll take a generation.

    And I know that it's going to annoy some Crimeans to hear that, but there it is.


    http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/09/irish-crimean-crimea-in-dire-need-of-de.html

    Old habits die hard.
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    Post  kvs on Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:54 am

    Not trying to be racist, but you can see a certain cultural gradient from north to south Europe. Crimea reflects
    the "Mediterranean" style with lots of petty corruption and easy going attitude to life. Not the sober or dour
    style of the north where everything is "squeaky clean". So Crimea will never become something it never was
    and the current progress is substantial.

    What is lacking is an objective metric of "corruption" and other social issues. Propaganda BS like the TI "perceptions index"
    and other such rubbish hide reality. There is no place where corruption is totally zero just as there is no place where there
    is zero criminality. It's human reality. NATO propaganda tries to exaggerate relatively minor differences in corruption level
    for imperial advantage. This BS percolates even inside Russia and skews perceptions.
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    Post  flamming_python on Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:45 am

    JohninMK wrote:Interesting point of view

    When it comes to civic values, Crimea still needs a whole lot of de-Ukrainianization.

    There's a lot of half-hearted patriotism in Crimea. The vast majority of Crimeans identify as Russian, profess patriotism in relation to Russia, and the Crimean population overwhelmingly supported the 2014 re-unification with Russia.

    But what are they actually doing about it? Admittedly, for the first 2 years after the unification, they were doing something about it - you could see people making a conscious effort to be better citizens. There was less loony driving, there were less nutjobs at street-level. There was less sleaze. There was less bribery going on - I know that for a fact.

    But eventually, after all the civic euphoria of the re-unification wears off, people start to relax, and start behaving as if they're still living under Ukrainian jurisdiction - kickbacks, idiot-culture, driving like dickheads, "protecting" their friends, etc, etc....

    They behave like this while ardently professing their patriotism for Russia. Actions speak louder than words.

    In continental Russia, the process of recovering and re-building the country's civic values and sense of discipline after the catastrophe of the 1990's began 20 years ago.

    In Crimea, that process of recovery began 3 years ago. It's going to take a generation. The Crimeans have got a lot of growing up to do. Having lived under Ukrainian jurisdiction for so long, far more than most Russians, large swathes of the Crimean population are still psychologically trapped in the 1990's. It'll take a generation.

    And I know that it's going to annoy some Crimeans to hear that, but there it is.


    http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/09/irish-crimean-crimea-in-dire-need-of-de.html

    Russia really isn't so much different, especially in the poorer regions - same as the Crimea.

    I can definately believe there's a difference. The Crimea was until recently part of a lawless country. But on the other hand; Russia was fairly lawless itself until the judical, police and military reforms that started in the late 2000s. The difference is not as signficant as this article tries to portray.

    kvs wrote:Not trying to be racist, but you can see a certain cultural gradient from north to south Europe.   Crimea reflects
    the "Mediterranean" style with lots of petty corruption and easy going attitude to life.    Not the sober or dour
    style of the north where everything is "squeaky clean".    So Crimea will never become something it never was
    and the current progress is substantial.

    What is lacking is an objective metric of "corruption" and other social issues.   Propaganda BS like the TI "perceptions index"
    and other such rubbish hide reality.   There is no place where corruption is totally zero just as there is no place where there
    is zero criminality.  It's human reality.    NATO propaganda tries to exaggerate relatively minor differences in corruption level
    for imperial advantage.    This BS percolates even inside Russia and skews perceptions.

    What cultural gradient? There is no cultural difference between people in the Crimea and Moscow. You're not comparing Portugal and Sweden here.
    What difference there is between these 2 Russian regions is just due to warmer weather and the fact that Moscow is cold, richer, and at least for the past 10 years - more law-abiding.

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