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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  max steel on Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:46 am

    The Russians Have Already Shot Down Numerous US Drones Violating Crimean Airspace



    And one of them, the mother of all drones, the massive Northrop Grumman RQ-4 Global Hawk, was apparently commandeered by Russian electronic warfare and landed in Simferopol.

    The war you don’t hear about: numerous American military aircraft (albeit of the unmanned variety, though with the possibility of being armed and dangerous) have apparently been violating Russian airspace, leading to the Russians shooting - yes, shooting - them down following the refusal of the Americans to acknowledge Russian diplomatic notes of protest.

    The military violation of the territory, including the airspace, of a sovereign state is ordinarily taken to be a casus belli - an act of war.



    But to be fair to the Americans, they may justify their belligerent behavior, flagrantly refusing to respect Russia’s sovereignty, on the basis that they do not recognize Crimea to be a part of Russia. Therefore, they do not recognize any violation of the airspace of Russia as having taken place. Rather, they would contend that the American aircraft in question were flying within the sovereign territory of Ukraine, with the permission of the government with the only legitimate authority to grant or refuse such permission, namely the government of Ukraine.

    Nevertheless the Russians have made it clear that they consider Crimea to be a sovereign part of Russia. The Russians have made diplomatic protests over what they see as violation of their territory. The Americans have ignored them. The Russians have therefore shot down - and in one case commandeered and landed - these aircraft making incursions into their sovereign territory.

    An act of war has been committed by America against Russia; and if you accept the American position, an act of war has been committed by Russia against both the Ukraine and the United States. Shots have been fired, and the Americans have lost materiel.

    Note that these are not exchanges of fire through proxies, as happened throughout the Cold War and is happening now through Syria and in the east of Ukraine. No, these are two nuclear-armed powers already in the process of shooting at each other!
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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  higurashihougi on Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:00 am

    https://www.rt.com/news/350041-russia-crimea-bridge-journalists/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

    Reunification with Russia has served a beneficial purpose for Crimea and its people, western reporters observed after visiting Sevastopol. They noted the “impressive” work on the 19-km bridge that will link the peninsula with the rest of Russia by 2019.
    Journalists from the US, the UK, Germany, South Korea, Bulgaria, Romania and Iraq have arrived to Crimea on the invitation of Russia’s Foreign Ministry.

    Some of have admitted Crimea’s reunification with Russia did led to some positive developments and even acknowledged that it was really the choice of the Crimean people after they visited the peninsula and spoke to the locals.
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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:46 pm

    Does this mean a downgrading of Crimea's local government?

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed a decree merging Russia's Southern and Crimean federal districts into an enlarged Southern Federal District led by the former justice minister and former prosecutor general, Vladimir Ustinov, the Kremlin announced on Thursday.

    "Reorganize the Southern Federal District and the Crimean Federal District into the Southern Federal District…Appoint Vladimir Vasilyavich Ustinov as the presidential commissioner to the Southern Federal District," the decree reads, as quoted on the Kremlin's website.

    The president instructed the Russian government to implement the decree while submitting corresponding legislation amendments to the State Duma.

    Ustinov has been serving as the presidential commissioner in the Southern Federal District since 2008.
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    Post  franco on Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:35 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Does this mean a downgrading of Crimea's local government?

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed a decree merging Russia's Southern and Crimean federal districts into an enlarged Southern Federal District led by the former justice minister and former prosecutor general, Vladimir Ustinov, the Kremlin announced on Thursday.

    "Reorganize the Southern Federal District and the Crimean Federal District into the Southern Federal District…Appoint Vladimir Vasilyavich Ustinov as the presidential commissioner to the Southern Federal District," the decree reads, as quoted on the Kremlin's website.

    The president instructed the Russian government to implement the decree while submitting corresponding legislation amendments to the State Duma.

    Ustinov has been serving as the presidential commissioner in the Southern Federal District since 2008.

    It will have no effect on local government. The Presidential Commissioner is the liaison between the local governments in the Federal District and the President (cabinet level minister if you wish). At first there was a separate Commissioner for Crimea and Sevastopol only. This makes perfect sense.
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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  auslander on Sun Jul 31, 2016 7:48 am

    There is more to the inclusion of Sevastopol and Krimu in to the district, much more.

    For starters, S. Menyailo, the appointed 'governor', read mayor, of Sevastopol was removed Thursday, this event producing dancing in the streets. Menyailo was 'promoted'....and sent to Siberia. Talk about a fall from grace, removed from what is in essence a heavenly little city and sent east to the snows. The subtle implications of this removal are not lost on others who may or may not be considering or actually doing what Menyailo and his henchmen were doing.

    Second, many of the sanctions imposed by us/eu/nazo were specifically against The Autonomous Republic of Krimea and The Federal City of Sevastopol. Since both are now part of the Southern District and technically no longer exist as before does this mean the aforementioned sanctions will have to be rewritten or do they now encompass the entire Southern District? The next days will be interesting in that respect.

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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  Project Canada on Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:49 am


    @ Auslander,

    I have a question for you about the situation on tourism in Crimea, (since you're actually from Crimea, you have better knowledge about the situation there). A few weeks ago I read news about Russians going back to resorts in Turkey after the travel ban was lifted, now this made me wonder, are beaches in Turkey really better (climate, water temp, whiter sands etc.) than in Russia (Crimea + Kuban)? Or is it because of the infrastructure and/or inadequate advertising (modifiable causes) why Russians are not choosing to visit domestic beaches instead?

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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  Project Canada on Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:37 am

    Project Canada wrote:
    @ Auslander,

    I have a question for you about the situation on tourism in Crimea, (since you're actually from Crimea, you have better knowledge about the situation there). A few weeks ago I read news about Russians going back to resorts in Turkey after the travel ban was lifted, now this made me wonder, are beaches in Turkey really better (climate, water temp, whiter sands etc.) than in Russia (Crimea + Kuban)? Or is it because of the infrastructure and/or inadequate advertising (modifiable causes) why Russians are not choosing to visit domestic beaches instead?

    Can someone else answer instead? Are Turkish resorts/beaches superior in quality to the ones found in Russia? Why are Russians still flocking there?
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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  higurashihougi on Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:06 am

    Contraindication: not for married men who have daughters.





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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:02 am

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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  Werewolf on Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:10 am

    George1 wrote:this troll was banned

    Please, delete the posts of trolls. There is also pornographic shit from this scum posted.
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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:36 am

    Werewolf wrote:
    George1 wrote:this troll was banned

    Please, delete the posts of trolls. There is also pornographic shit from this scum posted.

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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  franco on Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:58 pm

    So Natalya Poklonskaya is no longer the Crimea’s chief prosecutor as she has been elected a Russian Federation Duma deputy. Still a cutie though.



    http://tass.com/politics/904400
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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  Werewolf on Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:05 pm

    George1 wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    George1 wrote:this troll was banned

    Please, delete the posts of trolls. There is also pornographic shit from this scum posted.

    Done in all topics thumbsup

    Little bit late, but thanks.
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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  franco on Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:21 pm

    Bridge connecting Crimea reaches the half way mark.

    https://en.ria.ru/videoclub/201701071049351759-russia-crimea-bridge/
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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  Kimppis on Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:12 am

    Anatoly Karlin: Three Years Since the Crimean Spring

    B-b-bb-but muh Tatar freedom fighters against the Dark Lord Putler and his Russian thugs. The independent Western media told me so...
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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  auslander on Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:26 pm

    Three day celebrations in this village. Our Tatar neighbors joined us yesterday and we all had a ball even thought the weather was less than delightful.
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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:03 pm

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    Post  auslander on Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:58 pm

    Always fun to watch that project grow. TPP on the bypass just south of Inkerman is roaring along also. Completion date is now late this year according to 'them'.

    The bridge, there are plans afoot for the opening day ceremonies but at this time nothing is engraved in stone.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:36 pm




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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  max steel on Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:24 am

    Sanctions short-circuit Russia's electricity plans for annexed Crimea


    Russia's $1.3 billion plan to build two new power plants in Crimea aimed to show that Moscow could complete high-tech projects on the annexed peninsula despite Western technology sanctions.

    But two years after its approval, the plan, which would supply Crimea's residents with power they once got from Ukraine, has been knocked off course by an obstacle thrown up by the same sanctions, four sources familiar with the plans told Reuters.

    The plants were designed to house gas turbines made by a unit of Siemens. But the German engineering firm risks violating sanctions if it delivers them. With no turbines, the project faces delays, the sources said. Siemens officials have always said there were no plans to supply the turbines.

    Russia explored buying turbines from Iran, changing the design to accommodate Russian-made turbines and using Western-designed turbines already in Russia. Each alternative had problems, the sources said, leaving officials and managers unable to agree on how to move forward.

    The saga shows that the sanctions are having a real impact on Russia, despite official protestations. It also shines a light on decision-making under President Vladimir Putin and the tendency, according to people close to the Kremlin, to make grand political promises that are near-impossible to implement.

    "The power stations were designed for Siemens turbines," said Alexei Chaliy, a Crimea lawmaker who in 2014 was one of the two most senior local officials under Moscow's de facto rule.

    "In 2014 I warned there would be problems. Over the past 20 years, Russia has lost the ability to produce turbines of that capacity. And so it ended badly."

    "They have started to build the power stations ... but there are no turbines."

    A Reuters reporter visiting the site of one of the two new power stations, near the city of Sevastopol, in February and March, saw the metal frames of several structures already erected, and cranes and dozens of workers building the main hall for the turbines.

    TIMETABLE SLIPPING

    The Kremlin said it wanted the power stations partially operational by September and fully operational by March 2018. That is the anniversary of the Crimean annexation and the month when Russia votes in a presidential election. Putin is expected to run for a new term.

    "The timetable is going to slip, that's totally certain," the person said.

    Russia's energy ministry did not respond to a written request for comment.

    European Union sanctions forbid the supply to Crimea of technology used in the energy sector. Policing EU sanctions is the responsibility of the bloc's member states. The German government has said in the past that German firms flouting the sanctions face unspecified penalties.

    The firm selected to build the power stations, Technopromexport, is controlled by Rostec, a state-owned conglomerate subject to U.S. sanctions.

    The foundations of the two power plants were designed to accommodate 160-187 megawatts turbines which can deliver the 940 megawatts in extra electricity that Russia promised Crimea to end frequent power cuts.

    The only Russian producer of such turbines is a Siemens joint venture in St Petersburg. Three sources said that Russian officials and people involved in the power plant project had concluded that, because of the sanctions, it was not possible to buy the Siemens turbines.

    "Siemens’ business policy is very clear: Siemens complies with all export control restrictions," a Siemens spokesman said.

    A Technopromexport spokesman said the timetable for completion was likely to slip, but that the delay was not caused by a problem with sourcing the turbines.

    He said the delay was due to a decision to change some technical aspects of the project to make it more effective and environmentally-friendly.

    "All the technical decisions have already been taken," the spokesman said in an emailed statement.


    ALTERNATIVES

    Two of the sources familiar with the project said that the energy ministry was exploring whether it could install 25-megawatt turbines made by ODK, part of the Rostec group.

    The sources said there was no consensus on doing this and any decision would need to be swift.

    "There is an option to re-do the design," said one of the sources. "But it needs to be decided now," before work on the sites gets too advanced.

    Russian officials have said they are exploring buying large turbines from a country that does not support the sanctions. Rostec head Sergei Chemezov, an old friend of Putin's, has said negotiations were underway with Iran.

    However, two sources in the Russian engineering sector said that any large capacity turbines in Iran would either have been manufactured under license from a big global engineering firm, or bought from one of these big firms. Those firms might resist because of the sanctions risk.

    A third option, voiced this month by Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak, is to use Western-made turbines already in Russia which are lying idle.

    A source in Russia's power sector said it could be hard to find enough compatible turbines from a single manufacturer. Even if a full set was found the manufacturer would need to get them working -- potentially falling foul of sanctions.

    "A person needs to come from the manufacturer with a thumb drive and a laptop to start it up," said the source."I cannot imagine how you can hide that."
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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  kvs on Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:24 am

    Complete and utter cheeseball propaganda nonsense.

    http://www.iran-daily.com/News/136277.html

    The propaganda hit piece tries to cover its ass preemptively and claim that the construction is subcontracted to foreign firms: BS.

    http://www.utz.ru/cgi-bin/news/view.cgi?news=535

    ROTEC has developed a 335 MW power generation turbine with an overall efficiency of 40%. This is not a combined
    cycle unit. But who the f*ck cares. It is designed for the Russian market.


    max steel wrote:Sanctions short-circuit Russia's electricity plans for annexed Crimea

    The issue here is that some collection of idiots decided to build a plant designed to use foreign turbines. It is not
    the sanctions that are hurting. It is local idiocy. But I expect this crisis to be the perfect pretext for Russia
    to start building its own combined cycle turbines and drive all the NATO producers out of its market. So Reuters
    shouldn't masturbate too hard in its glee at ebil Russkies cannot into tech. Russia is a big market for GE, Siemens, etc.
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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:35 am

    It is utter BS since majority of Crimea's electricity is coming from cables from mainland Russia:

    https://www.rt.com/business/342737-crimea-energy-bridge-complete/

    It all comes down to necessity.  Building its own electricity generating plants is fine.  But I highly highly doubt Reuters reporting since they have been known to spread fake news multitude of times.

    Plus, power machines Russia produces their own turbines and other power generating equipment:
    http://www.power-m.ru/en/

    kvs wrote:Complete and utter cheeseball propaganda nonsense.

    http://www.iran-daily.com/News/136277.html

    The propaganda hit piece tries to cover its ass preemptively and claim that the construction is subcontracted to foreign firms: BS.

    http://www.utz.ru/cgi-bin/news/view.cgi?news=535

    ROTEC has developed a 335 MW power generation turbine with an overall efficiency of 40%.   This is not a combined
    cycle unit.   But who the f*ck cares.  It is designed for the Russian market.


    max steel wrote:Sanctions short-circuit Russia's electricity plans for annexed Crimea

    The issue here is that some collection of idiots decided to build a plant designed to use foreign turbines.   It is not
    the sanctions that are hurting.  It is local idiocy.   But I expect this crisis to be the perfect pretext for Russia
    to start building its own combined cycle turbines and drive all the NATO producers out of its market.   So Reuters
    shouldn't masturbate too hard in its glee at ebil Russkies cannot into tech.    Russia is a big market for GE, Siemens, etc.  

    They were one of the others who said about Russia not being able to produce the drilling equipment. How wrong they were.


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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  Project Canada on Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:38 am

    max steel wrote:Sanctions short-circuit Russia's electricity plans for annexed Crimea

    I cant imagine how Russia does not have the capacity to manufacture their own turbines of this kind while Iran can? The import substitution is supposedly for a scenario like this.
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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:44 am

    Project Canada wrote:
    max steel wrote:Sanctions short-circuit Russia's electricity plans for annexed Crimea

    I cant imagine how Russia does not have the capacity to manufacture their own turbines of this kind while Iran can? The import substitution is supposedly for a scenario like this.

    They can, Reuters is just lying as usual.  Instead of being like a typical stupid Canadian, look at KVS post.  Stop ignoring others posts already.

    "Two sources familiar with the project".  In this case, unnamed sources usually indicate lying.

    Edit: I am finding it hard to get Russian news on this. Only seems to be from english sources sharing the same source. Only one I can find is possible work with Iran on said turbines but that dates to last year, not this year. Also english source.
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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:02 am

    Here is even a nice photo collage of the work at the Urals facility:

    http://blog.b2b-export.com/en/inside-look-ural-turbine-works/

    I think most of these people who spread fake news think we are really fucking stupid. It seems to work on some people though as seen on this website.

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