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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  marat on Fri Jul 03, 2015 5:12 pm

    Neutrality wrote:
    marat wrote:Is there any improvements regarding electricity supply of Crimea?
    Ukraina will increase price of electricity by 14% from july. Did Russia started with builiding powerplants in Crimea or connecting lines with mainland?

    Yes.

    http://www.interfax.ru/russia/373352

    http://www.vedomosti.ru/business/articles/2015/04/03/stroitelstvo-elektrostantsii-v-krimu-oplatit-byudzhet

    I do not speak Russian and translator suck, but if I understood well both links are just about plans?

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    Post  Prince Darling on Fri Jul 03, 2015 5:38 pm

    For me the obvious choice is either pull power lines from Russia. One problem may be having to renew much of the power grid in Crimea, currently the main power lines are coming from Ukraine into north Crimea, power lines from Russia would enter the territory at the opposite side.

    The other choice is natural gas powerplant and laying a gasline with sufficient capacity for the powerplants and consumer use. This plan would also offset a lot of costs if you would be laying the gasline for consumer use only.

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    Post  Neutrality on Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:53 pm

    marat wrote:
    Neutrality wrote:
    marat wrote:Is there any improvements regarding electricity supply of Crimea?
    Ukraina will increase price of electricity by 14% from july. Did Russia started with builiding powerplants in Crimea or connecting lines with mainland?

    Yes.

    http://www.interfax.ru/russia/373352

    http://www.vedomosti.ru/business/articles/2015/04/03/stroitelstvo-elektrostantsii-v-krimu-oplatit-byudzhet

    I do not speak Russian and translator suck, but if I understood well both links are just about plans?

    First article is about the cost for a 600 MW power station for the island, meaning the final cost when it will be built.

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    Post  GarryB on Sat Jul 04, 2015 11:22 am

    I wonder if those floating power stations they were working on are ready... just sail a couple into harbour and connect to the mains for a top up or power... where and when they need it.

    Obviously local power would be ideal, and wind and solar are good solutions... the more often and more widely they are used the cheaper they become and even when other more conventional solutions are found they can be used to allow for further growth and problem periods.


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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  auslander on Sat Jul 04, 2015 3:24 pm

    Any port that has a Russian Navy base in it also has a system whereby the surrounding region can be run on at least emergency power from the Navy ships and shore generating stations. My wife remembers them testing the system once a month for a couple hours back in SSSR days. One can hope the systems are still extant although this berg has grown a bit in the last 25 years. The north side of Sevastopol and a few parts of southside were dependent on Ukraine electric but that problem has been at least partially resolved by connecting Inkerman and points west, notably Gollandia region and parts of Severnya region on north side. I do not know the 'border' between still using Ukraine electric and electric from the power station on the southside of harbor as far as north side is concerned. We are of course right on the border of Gollandia and Severnya regions.

    The main solution for the Krim power grid is electric coming from RF mainland via Krasnodar and across the Kerch Straights. It is my understanding that at least a 'temporary' line is either in process or will be started this summer. It is not a problem to hook in to the entire Krim grid from the east coast. The long term solution will be electric feed via the Kerch/Krasnodar bridge under construction at this time.

    Krimea has always produced more gas than needed on the peninsula and upwards of 50% has in past years been sold to Ukraine. Ukraine owes Krimea 5 years worth of gas payments which of course will never be paid. Krim gas is of considerably higher quality than the gaz produced elsewhere in Ukraine and Krim gas can be used for industrial applications. Most other Ukraine gas can not, it is suitable only for domestic consumption if that.

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    Post  kvs on Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:29 pm

    I thought they were building gas powered electricity generation stations in Crimea. Was that all just talk?

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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:28 pm

    From what I can tell Crimea had problems with Power/Water/Transport for decades. Those problems might be solved partially/piece-meal or permanently and simultaneously by building Kerch bridge.

    Strategy seems to be to tough it out for several more years until bridge is complete and not have to think about those problems ever again afterwards...

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    Post  auslander on Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:46 am

    KVS, I have not heard of gas powered generators but that means nothing. Just because I/we have not heard of it does not mean it's not being done. A bit over two years ago someone built not a klick from our digs a good sized solar power grid but I don't know who built it or if it's up and running. Of course it's on prime harbor front land and right next to Ahkmetov's massive grain storage and shipping facility on the harbor which, by the by, he no longer owns and he no longer has a lock on all the grain harvested in Krimu to sell on the world market. RF now buys the grains and at a better price than Ahkmetov paid.

    Papa, they are working mightily on the water supply system. The Army spent most of the winter laying pipes from the reservoir in the foothills to the south to Inkerman where it tied in to a feed station on the Black River that feeds north side and parts of east side. Our water supply in this berg seems to be doing well, helped a great deal this year with the end of the ten year drought and normal rains for the seasons this year.

    What hurt the rice fields in the northern part of the peninsula was the Ukes stopping the water feed canal from the Dniepr. The stoppage was in fits and starts but in time the Ukes managed to dam the canal. In doing so the Ukes also managed to shaft a good portion of the small farms in Kherson Oblast along the southern border of same with Krimu.

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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  medo on Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:25 am

    They are solving those problems, but it could not be done over night. As I know they fix water problems with using water sources inside Crimea and with repairs and modernizations in water supply infrastructures. For energy they will build gas pipeline from Russia to Crimea and build some thermal power plants, but solar and wind power plants could be build faster, so they are one of good solutions. Transport problem is also in the process as they enlarge and modernize Simferopol airfield and Kerch port, they are also repairing roads and railroads. Problem will be finally solved with Kerch bridge, but this will take few years of time to be build. Let say in 2020, Crimea will be fully self sufficient.

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    Post  GarryB on Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:54 am

    Actually one of the primary goals for the new floating power stations is that they generate electrical power specifically designed to plug into a local power grid, but to also supply heat and fresh water and is optimised but not limited to Siberian coastal communities including up rivers and also small island nations where electrical power is often expensive via diesel generators and fresh water is scarce.

    Several of these power station ships could be used in the Crimea until more permanent solutions can be found... they could supply power and fresh water and free up the naval vessels possibly able to do the same.

    If Crimea is to grow it needs reliable electricity and fresh water supplies...


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    Post  Neutrality on Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:10 pm

    The situation with the water supply is already lightyears better than it was before. (when they were part of Ukraine).

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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  zg18 on Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:45 am

    Underwater cables for electricity transport between Crimea and mainland Russia are being built.
















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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:21 pm


    Balaclava, before and after...

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/64861/

    2010



    2015

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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  franco on Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:06 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Balaclava, before and after...

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/64861/

    2010



    2015

    Two 22460 PSKR (055,053), one 12200 PSKA (315), two 12150 PSKA (633,?) and I believe the ship between the two 22460's is a 1496M1 PSKA.

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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  flamming_python on Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:29 am

    franco wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Balaclava, before and after...

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/64861/

    2010



    2015

    Two 22460 PSKR (055,053), one 12200 PSKA (315), two 12150 PSKA (633,?) and I believe the ship between the two 22460's is a 1496M1 PSKA.

    I'm just glad they got rid of the Ukraine's bile green, floating rustcarcasses from there.
    Yuuughh!! Get 'em outta there!

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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  Rodinazombie on Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:31 pm

    SEVASTOPOL AIRPORT TO HOST ITS FIRST FLIGHT BY THE END OF THE YEAR

    SUE Sevastopol Airport should have hosted its first flight by the end of the year, the director of the Government of Sevastopol’s Municipal Service Department Oleg Kazurin reported.

    It is planned that the airport will host regular flights all year round, taking into account peak seasonal loadings. Capital structures, corresponding engineering communications, introduction of all airport services and fitting them with special equipment are necessary for this purpose. The volume of investment will total more than 1.5 billion rubles.

    The available landing strip is almost ready to accept planes. It is 3 thousand meters long. Over one thousand jobs would be created at the airport. The airport director Vadim Bazykin stated there is an opportunity to prepare the existing infrastructure for hosting business aircraft this year: about 3 flights of charters daily, the SRG-200 (50 passengers).

    By April-March, 2016 it will be possible to provide hosting and servicing regular flights of Sukhoy Superjet-100 planes (108 passengers) and others.


    Sukhoy Superjet-100

    http://southfront.org/sevastopol-airport-to-host-its-first-flight-by-the-end-of-the-year/

    Interesting development. How will this effect simferopol airport? Are they looking to use both airports or are they going to sideline simf in favour of sevastopol?

    It seems silly to have two international airports within an hours drive of each other, though with simf being the capital you can hardly deprive it of its air transport hub.


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    Post  George1 on Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:49 pm

    New Crimean Tatar TV channel and radio station to be launched

    Crimea’s Head Sergey Aksyonov has approved the composition of the Council of a new public Crimean Tatar television and radio company

    SIMFEROPOL, July 14 /TASS/. A new public Crimean Tatar TV channel — Millet (the people) — and the Vetan (Homeland) radio station will be launched in Crimea to replace the ATR channel that suspended broadcasts in April. Crimea’s Head Sergey Aksyonov has approved the composition of the Council of a new public Crimean Tatar television and radio company. A relevant instruction has been published on the Crimean government’s website.

    "The Council’s main task is to exercise public control over the activities of the Crimean Tatar public television and radio company; work out the channel’s editorial policy and TV viewing grid; guarantee the rights of citizens to information, bring the independent opinion of TV audiences to the company’s leadership and protect the public Crimean Tatar television and radio company from any influences that contradict the interests of TV viewers," the document said.

    The Council has 24 members including Mufti of Crimean Muslims Emirali Ablayev, who’s chairman of the Spiritual Administration of the Muslims of Crimea and Sevastopol; Eskender Bilyalov, a member of the presidential Council for inter-ethnic relations; Nariman Kazenbash, the head of the public organization of Crimean Tatar veterans; as well as scientists, writers, directors and members of public organizations.

    The new public Crimean Tatar television and radio company is expected to start broadcasting on September 1, Remzi Ilyasov, the Crimean parliament’s vice-speaker, told journalist earlier on Tuesday. "In order to exclude obtrusion, pressure and Zombification, we have chosen the path of creating a public council, which is going to build an editorial policy and study it in all aspects such as politics, education, language and religion. The TRK team will build its work on the basis of these recommendations," Ilyasov stressed.

    The authorities have allocated about 180 million rubles ($3.1 million) for the creation of the TRK company.


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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  GarryB on Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:49 am

    It seems silly to have two international airports within an hours drive of each other, though with simf being the capital you can hardly deprive it of its air transport hub.

    The Crimea will be a popular holiday destination, so having an extra international air port would probably be useful.


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    Post  Rodinazombie on Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:49 am

    GarryB wrote:
    It seems silly to have two international airports within an hours drive of each other, though with simf being the capital you can hardly deprive it of its air transport hub.

    The Crimea will be a popular holiday destination, so having an extra international air port would probably be useful.

    This is true, but crimea always managed with one airport under ukrainian rule, i think once this crisis finishes in a few years a lot of the tourism will still come down from ukraine by train or car. For sure you will get plenty of russians from moscow, st petersburg, but how many other russians will travel to crimea when they have places like sochi, anapa or even destinations like egypt, turkey, bulgaria etc that are cheaper than crimea.

    Though once the bridge is completed im sure there will be a big influx of tourists from southern russia but none of this points to needing two airports.

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    Post  George1 on Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:27 pm

    Historic Goal: UEFA Recognizes Crimea Part of Russia


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    Post  medo on Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:03 pm

    Rodinazombie wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    It seems silly to have two international airports within an hours drive of each other, though with simf being the capital you can hardly deprive it of its air transport hub.

    The Crimea will be a popular holiday destination, so having an extra international air port would probably be useful.

    This is true, but crimea always managed with one airport under ukrainian rule, i think once this crisis finishes in a few years a lot of the tourism will still come down from ukraine by train or car.  For sure you will get plenty of russians from moscow, st petersburg, but how many other russians will travel to crimea when they have places like sochi, anapa or even destinations like egypt, turkey, bulgaria etc that are cheaper than crimea.

    Though once the bridge is completed im sure there will be a big influx of tourists from southern russia but none of this points to needing two airports.

    At the moment, Crimea is an island and tourists could get there only by air and by sea routes. I think Belbek will be still a military airbase, but they will have a separated civil apron and terminal for additional air lines and they will share the same runway. Actually having two civil airfields is good from safety point of view, considering if from any reason their main airport at Simferopol is closed, all airplanes could be redirected to Belbek and not fly back to Rostov as they could not go in Ukraine like before.

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    Post  GarryB on Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:28 am

    Good point regarding emergency situations... and indeed during peak periods...

    There is the old story of designing a new Church... do you design it for peak periods like Christmas and Easter... in which case you will have a very big church that will for most of the time be largely empty and will be more expensive to heat and maintain, or do you design it for the normal Sunday crowd, which means at Easter and Christmas it will be crowded and you might have to turn some people away.... but every sunday wont look so empty and will be cheaper to build and operate.

    The ideal is actually build a hall next to the church in a way that the church can be opened out and extended into the hall for big weddings and religious celebrations, while for the rest of the time you can use the church as a church and the hall for all sorts of other things.

    Having two airports is like the Church /Hall arrangement.


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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  marat on Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:42 am

    Rodinazombie wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    It seems silly to have two international airports within an hours drive of each other, though with simf being the capital you can hardly deprive it of its air transport hub.

    The Crimea will be a popular holiday destination, so having an extra international air port would probably be useful.

    This is true, but crimea always managed with one airport under ukrainian rule, i think once this crisis finishes in a few years a lot of the tourism will still come down from ukraine by train or car.  For sure you will get plenty of russians from moscow, st petersburg, but how many other russians will travel to crimea when they have places like sochi, anapa or even destinations like egypt, turkey, bulgaria etc that are cheaper than crimea.

    Though once the bridge is completed im sure there will be a big influx of tourists from southern russia but none of this points to needing two airports
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    You should check how many airports are in Adriatic sea Smile

    Only Montenegro with 600000 residents  have 2 international airports Podgorica, then 88 km away Tivat, Croatia with 4000000 residents have 6 international airports 5 of them are in turistic destinations ( Dubrovnik,Split Pula Rijeka Zadar Brač ) and just one on north of Croatia where most Croats live.

    Mostar airport in Bosnia is also  very close to Adriatic.

    Turist industry need lot of airports.

    Russia is huge, even south Russia is huge, you do not want to spend half of your vacantion in car driving to sea and back. And Russia shpuld make Crime to be destination not just for Russians or Ukrainians but for international market Belarus, Baltic countries, Hungaria....If Montenegro can attract turists why Crimea wouldnt?

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    Re: Crimea's integration into Russian Federation:

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:56 pm

    marat wrote:
    Rodinazombie wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    It seems silly to have two international airports within an hours drive of each other, though with simf being the capital you can hardly deprive it of its air transport hub.

    The Crimea will be a popular holiday destination, so having an extra international air port would probably be useful.

    This is true, but crimea always managed with one airport under ukrainian rule, i think once this crisis finishes in a few years a lot of the tourism will still come down from ukraine by train or car.  For sure you will get plenty of russians from moscow, st petersburg, but how many other russians will travel to crimea when they have places like sochi, anapa or even destinations like egypt, turkey, bulgaria etc that are cheaper than crimea.

    Though once the bridge is completed im sure there will be a big influx of tourists from southern russia but none of this points to needing two airports
    .

    You should check how many airports are in Adriatic sea Smile

    Only Montenegro with 600000 residents  have 2 international airports Podgorica, then 88 km away Tivat, Croatia with 4000000 residents have 6 international airports 5 of them are in turistic destinations ( Dubrovnik,Split Pula Rijeka Zadar Brač ) and just one on north of Croatia where most Croats live.

    Mostar airport in Bosnia is also  very close to Adriatic.

    Turist industry need lot of airports.

    Russia is huge, even south Russia is huge, you do not want to spend half of your vacantion in car driving to sea and back. And Russia shpuld make Crime to be destination not just for Russians or Ukrainians but for international market Belarus, Baltic countries, Hungaria....If Montenegro can attract turists why Crimea wouldnt?

    Crimea is going to see a total of around 5 Million tourists this year. That is massive. I imagine with that alone will bring in lots of revenue and get others interested in its infrastructure development.

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    Post  George1 on Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:21 am

    Russia to build fibre-optic communication line to Crimea

    The project will be implemented under the state program of socio-economic development of the Crimean Federal District for a period until 2020

    MOSCOW, July 28. /TASS/. The Russian government has decided to build an underwater fibre-optic communication line under the Kerch Strait to the Crimean Peninsula. The line route will run from the Taman Peninsula, the government reported on Tuesday.

    The corresponding decree signed by Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev is posted on the Russian government’s website. The project will be implemented under the state program of socio-economic development of the Crimean Federal District for a period until 2020.

    The communication line’s capacity will be at least 200 Gbit/s. Taking this into account, by 2018 the capacity of the channels ensuring operation of the Crimean Federal District’s communication networks within Russia’s single telecommunications network will reach at least 310 Gbit/s. This will make it possible to create increased capacity communication channels in Crimea for ensuring the development of broadband Internet access, telephone and television on the peninsula.

    The shallow 4-5-km wide Kerch Strait separates Crimea from the Taman Peninsula. The sea depths there do not exceed 10 meters. Up to a hundred vessels pass the strait daily.


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