Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues


    Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Share

    Walther von Oldenburg
    Major
    Major

    Posts : 894
    Points : 951
    Join date : 2015-01-23
    Age : 25
    Location : Oldenburg

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:34 pm

    Are contract servicemen conscripts who decided to stay or also people who joined voluntarily?

    franco
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1732
    Points : 1772
    Join date : 2010-08-18

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  franco on Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:36 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Are contract servicemen conscripts who decided to stay or also people who joined voluntarily?

    Both is my understanding.

    Werewolf
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 5390
    Points : 5639
    Join date : 2012-10-24

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  Werewolf on Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:57 pm

    Always both.

    Voluntary conscripts get their basic training course but are already prepared during those months to which course they will be going (Seargant, Officer)

    flamming_python
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 3182
    Points : 3310
    Join date : 2012-01-30

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  flamming_python on Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:35 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Are contract servicemen conscripts who decided to stay or also people who joined voluntarily?

    To be a contract serviceman requires you to go through conscript service first.
    So they are either those who stayed on after their conscript service finished or who finished their conscript term and left but then decided to join the military again later on as contract servicemen.

    One of the warrant officers in my old unit, as I recall, told me about how finished his conscript service, returned to civil life but after just 6 months decided that civie street was no longer for him, and then went back into the military and presumably received training for NCO roles.

    George1
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 9423
    Points : 9915
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  George1 on Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:05 am

    Over 147,000 drafted into Russian armed forces this autumn

    More:
    http://tass.ru/en/defense/848034


    _________________
    "There's no smoke without fire.", Georgy Zhukov


    PapaDragon
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 3667
    Points : 3779
    Join date : 2015-04-26
    Location : Fort Evil, Serbia

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Jan 03, 2016 7:59 pm


    This is the right idea! thumbsup

    ''Russian Soldiers Complete Psychologist-Guided 'Team-Building' ''

    http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160103/1032640982/russia-military-teambuilding.html

    franco
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1732
    Points : 1772
    Join date : 2010-08-18

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  franco on Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:07 am

    A list of documented deaths in the Armed Forces from 2014 and first half of 2015;

    http://mdb.cast.ru/mdb/6-2015/item4/article1/

    franco
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1732
    Points : 1772
    Join date : 2010-08-18

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  franco on Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:40 pm

    Deputy Minister of Defense N.Pankov:

       We are very actively, purposefully and with great interest the work of conscription officers fired in previous years. It is usually the young officers. And those who kept the high motivation, we accept military service, and, in fact, it is now - a steady, stable source of army.
       In 2015, we managed to bring the staffing level to 92 percent. This is - an unprecedented level of completeness. We set the goal in 2016 staffing level of the army and navy officers to bring up to 93 percent.
    At 220,000 full staff = 202,000.

    Revised Defense Personnel end of 2015 = 884,000

    Volunteers = 554,000
    Conscripts = 267,000
    Cadets = 63,000

    George1
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 9423
    Points : 9915
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  George1 on Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:44 am

    franco wrote:Deputy Minister of Defense N.Pankov:

       We are very actively, purposefully and with great interest the work of conscription officers fired in previous years. It is usually the young officers. And those who kept the high motivation, we accept military service, and, in fact, it is now - a steady, stable source of army.
       In 2015, we managed to bring the staffing level to 92 percent. This is - an unprecedented level of completeness. We set the goal in 2016 staffing level of the army and navy officers to bring up to 93 percent.
    At 220,000 full staff = 202,000.

    Revised Defense Personnel end of 2015 = 884,000

    Volunteers = 554,000
    Conscripts = 267,000
    Cadets = 63,000

    these numbers are for ground forces only right?


    _________________
    "There's no smoke without fire.", Georgy Zhukov


    franco
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1732
    Points : 1772
    Join date : 2010-08-18

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  franco on Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:33 pm

    No, this would be total.

    George1
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 9423
    Points : 9915
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  George1 on Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:52 pm

    franco wrote:No, this would be total.

    Volunteers are reservists??


    _________________
    "There's no smoke without fire.", Georgy Zhukov


    franco
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1732
    Points : 1772
    Join date : 2010-08-18

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  franco on Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:11 pm

    George1 wrote:
    franco wrote:No, this would be total.

    Volunteers are reservists??

    Volunteers are Officers, Warrant Officers, Sergeants and Contractors.

    franco
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1732
    Points : 1772
    Join date : 2010-08-18

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  franco on Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:01 pm

    Breakdown of the Russian Armed Forces

    There are various numbers out there but this is how I track it.

    884,000 total minus 63,000 cadets = 821,000 active personnel

    Ground Forces - 280,000
    Aerospace Forces - 190,000
    Naval Forces - 140,000
    Rocket Troops - 68,000
    Airborne Troops - 42,000
    Central Command - 100,000

    *Central includes General Staff and attached plus Rear Services including Railroad Troops

    sepheronx
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 7302
    Points : 7612
    Join date : 2009-08-06
    Age : 27
    Location : Canada

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Feb 13, 2016 4:20 am

    With NATO claims of moving 40,000 troops to Russian western region (or nato east), what do we expect Russia will move to western district? How many are there now?

    magnumcromagnon
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 4468
    Points : 4659
    Join date : 2013-12-05
    Location : Pindos ave., Pindosville, Pindosylvania, Pindostan

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Feb 13, 2016 4:46 am

    sepheronx wrote:With NATO claims of moving 40,000 troops to Russian western region (or nato east), what do we expect Russia will move to western district? How many are there now?

    My thoughts on NATO moving all those soldiers to Russia's border....All that does is that it makes it easier to take out troops in higher concentrations, tactical nuke's with increased radiation warheads, Neutron Bombs, and considering the PAC-3 is the main ABM SAM (I know seriously...Razz lol1) of NATO forces, it's safe to say it won't be pretty. Shocked

    franco
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1732
    Points : 1772
    Join date : 2010-08-18

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  franco on Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:05 am

    sepheronx wrote:With NATO claims of moving 40,000 troops to Russian western region (or nato east), what do we expect Russia will move to western district? How many are there now?

    Russians are creating 3 new brigades / divisions in the West. Combat units presently deployed;

    Kaliningrad - 1 motor rifle bde, 1 motor rifle regt, 1 naval infantry bde, 1 artillery bde and 1 SSM bde
    Finland - 2 motor rifle bdes, 1 Arctic bde and 1 naval infantry bde
    Estonia / Latvia - 1 motor rifle bde, 1 airborne division, 1 spetsnaz bde, 1 artillery bde and 1 SSM bde
    Belarus - 1 motor rifle div, 1 tank division, 1 motor rifle bde, 1 airborne division, 1 MRL bde and 1 SSM bde
    Ukraine - 1 tank bde, 3 motor rifle bdes, 2 airborne divisions, 1 air assault bde, 3 spetsnaz bdes, 1 artillery bde, 2 SSM bde and 1 MRL bde
    Crimea - 1 coastal defense bde, 1 naval infantry bde, 1 artillery regt, 1 reconnaissance bde

    Reinforcements - 1 tank bde, 6 motor rifle bdes, 1 airborne bde, 1 spetsnaz bde, 1 artillery bde, 1 SSM bde and 2 MRL regiments within a week


    sepheronx
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 7302
    Points : 7612
    Join date : 2009-08-06
    Age : 27
    Location : Canada

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:07 am

    How much is a brigade/division? how many men?

    franco
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1732
    Points : 1772
    Join date : 2010-08-18

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  franco on Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:18 am

    sepheronx wrote:How much is a brigade/division? how many men?

    Motor Rifle - div = 8,000 & bde = 4,500
    Tank - div = 6,000 & bde = 3,000
    Airborne - div = 6,000 & bde = 2,500
    Naval Infantry bde = 2,000+
    Spetsnaz & Reconnaissance bdes = 1,500
    Artillery bdes = 1,000
    SSM & MRL = 500

    This doesn't count all the support units, just the fighting units.

    sepheronx
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 7302
    Points : 7612
    Join date : 2009-08-06
    Age : 27
    Location : Canada

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:22 am

    franco wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:How much is a brigade/division? how many men?

    Motor Rifle - div = 8,000 & bde = 4,500
    Tank - div = 6,000 & bde = 3,000
    Airborne - div = 6,000 & bde = 2,500
    Naval Infantry bde = 2,000+
    Spetsnaz & Reconnaissance bdes = 1,500
    Artillery bdes = 1,000
    SSM & MRL = 500

    This doesn't count all the support units, just the fighting units.

    Pathetic. Kaliningrad is heavily surrounded by at least 4x the amount of NATO troops then.

    franco
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1732
    Points : 1772
    Join date : 2010-08-18

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  franco on Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:31 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    franco wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:How much is a brigade/division? how many men?

    Motor Rifle - div = 8,000 & bde = 4,500
    Tank - div = 6,000 & bde = 3,000
    Airborne - div = 6,000 & bde = 2,500
    Naval Infantry bde = 2,000+
    Spetsnaz & Reconnaissance bdes = 1,500
    Artillery bdes = 1,000
    SSM & MRL = 500

    This doesn't count all the support units, just the fighting units.

    Pathetic.  Kaliningrad is heavily surrounded by at least 4x the amount of NATO troops then.  

    Advantage is that the Baltics are physically separated from the rest of NATO but Poland has an Army over 100,000 without being reinforced. The advantage for Kaliningrad is that only so many could attack at once while those waiting their turn will be hammered via the air and with SSM's.

    sepheronx
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 7302
    Points : 7612
    Join date : 2009-08-06
    Age : 27
    Location : Canada

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:40 am

    franco wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    franco wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:How much is a brigade/division? how many men?

    Motor Rifle - div = 8,000 & bde = 4,500
    Tank - div = 6,000 & bde = 3,000
    Airborne - div = 6,000 & bde = 2,500
    Naval Infantry bde = 2,000+
    Spetsnaz & Reconnaissance bdes = 1,500
    Artillery bdes = 1,000
    SSM & MRL = 500

    This doesn't count all the support units, just the fighting units.

    Pathetic.  Kaliningrad is heavily surrounded by at least 4x the amount of NATO troops then.  

    Advantage is that the Baltics are physically separated from the rest of NATO but Poland has an Army over 100,000 without being reinforced. The advantage for Kaliningrad is that only so many could attack at once while those waiting their turn will be hammered via the air and with SSM's.

    So how many troops you think will be available after the 3 additional divisions, will be available to fight the 40,000?  Just give a number.

    Edit: Since no reply, I figure I take a stab at it.

    What they currently have is roughly 83,000 including Kaliningrad region in the west (Finland area, Ukraine area, Belarus, Latvia/Lithuania all combined. Not accounting Crimea).

    If 3 more divisions are added in (doesn't state which - motor, airborn, or what), then that could bring up the forces to over 100,000 troops in the region, which would give Russia the major advantage. As well, support from other regions like Central region and south region would bring the numbers up even higher.

    Then the fact if Russia was ever attacked, they would more than likely bring in reserves of any type, like civies already trained in military.

    As well, as mentioned earlier, these forces will be quite enclosed and confined, thus they are open to massive strikes (be it tactical nuke or not).

    franco
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1732
    Points : 1772
    Join date : 2010-08-18

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  franco on Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:33 pm

    MOSCOW, February 18 -. RIA Novosti The number of troops is not planned to reduce the Strategic Missile Forces, it will be maintained at the level of 60 thousand people, he told reporters the commander of the Strategic Missile Forces, Colonel-General Sergei Karakayev during the All-Russian information and propaganda campaign "There is such a profession - Motherland protect!".

    "Strategic Missile Forces during military reforms failed to fully preserve its structure is understandable -. We have always been and will be forces of permanent readiness Today grouping RVSN includes 3 missile army of 12 missile divisions Reduction Strategic Missile Forces in the future is not planned.. and their number will be maintained at the same level - about 60 thousand, "- he said.

    franco
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1732
    Points : 1772
    Join date : 2010-08-18

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  franco on Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:01 am

    Change in Russian legislation. Effective this year, conscripts have the option of doing a 2-year contract service instead of their 1-year conscript service.

    sweartome123
    Private
    Private

    Posts : 36
    Points : 37
    Join date : 2015-08-12

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  sweartome123 on Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:46 pm

    franco wrote:Change in Russian legislation. Effective this year, conscripts have the option of doing a 2-year contract service instead of their 1-year conscript service.  

    Is there any mention of the benefits/perks of choosing a 2 year service contract?

    franco
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1732
    Points : 1772
    Join date : 2010-08-18

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  franco on Sat Mar 05, 2016 1:59 am

    sweartome123 wrote:
    franco wrote:Change in Russian legislation. Effective this year, conscripts have the option of doing a 2-year contract service instead of their 1-year conscript service.  

    Is there any mention of the benefits/perks of choosing a 2 year service contract?

    1. Higher pay and benefits for the present (2 years) over a conscript.
    2. If you want a career, the first 2 year service is the lowest paying. Dramatic wage increase in year 3. Old system, you had to do 6 months conscript service before enrolling as a contract.

    Sponsored content

    Re: Russian Armed Forces personnel

    Post  Sponsored content Today at 4:54 am


      Current date/time is Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:54 am