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    Russia - Argentina military contracts

    Post  Viktor on Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:13 pm

    Slowly but surely the one and only solution for Argentina is revealing itself Laughing Laughing Laughing

    2014Argentina may buy Russian fighter jets
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:28 am

    Remember before the Ukraine BS that the UK was talking about closer relations with Russia and even talking about small arms cooperation... well that is dead now of course.

    I wonder what they will think about a few Su-30MKIs flying in Argentine air space... or perhaps even an Su-35...  Smile

    Of course now that I have read the article any purchase of Russian aircraft is pure speculation on the part of the authors of the article and by the look of it they would be interested in bargain basement planes so we are talking about MiG-29SMT or Su-27SM3 or something similar.

    Of course these are still very potent aircraft and with the right weapons would be very capable.


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    Post  medo on Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:41 pm

    I think Su-30MK2 could be the best option for Argentina. Su-30MKI with TVC engines could be too expensive for them. Other option is MiG-29M2 or MiG-35, but they will receive Su-30 faster than MiGs.
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    Post  Kyo on Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:25 pm

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    Post  GarryB on Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:23 am

    The upgraded Su-24 is still a very capable aircraft and can carry a range of weapons.

    The Argentine Air Force was very capable of hitting British ships with a range of weapons including dumb bombs and Exocet anti ship missiles.

    The Su-24 would offer a range of guided missiles and guided bombs that would make the job much easier and the effect much more dire for the British.

    Even just a new model Kh-31 anti ship missile with a range of 240km at mach 3 would be a whole different threat for any British Task Force.

    I suspect the leasing deal could simply be a ploy by the Russians to get cheap food, for the Argentines to get experience in a more modern air craft, and of course for both sides to increase the cost for Britain to hold the Falklands.

    After a few years experience with Su-24s they could look at Su-30s or other options... like MiG-29M2s... that would not be too expensive, yet would offer serious capability that four Eurofighters would simply be insufficient for.


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    Post  Kyo on Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:40 pm

    An arrangement of Su-24 plus Kh-31 should make Argentine reign over the South Atlantic area, something its ally Brazil should have realized had it incorporated the Su-35 in its fighter tender. But it didn't, thus falling short of being considered a burlesque banana republic.
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    Post  George1 on Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:53 pm

    Kyo wrote:An arrangement of Su-24 plus Kh-31 should make Argentine reign over the South Atlantic area, something its ally Brazil should have realized had it incorporated the Su-35 in its fighter tender. But it didn't, thus falling short of being considered a burlesque banana republic.

    i think that in this economic situation, even su-24s are not affordable for Argentina
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    Post  Viktor on Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:55 pm

    George1 wrote:i think that in this economic situation, even su-24s are not affordable for Argentina

    Keep in mind that payment may come in many forms.
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    Post  Kyo on Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:44 pm

    i think that in this economic situation, even su-24s are not affordable for Argentina
    It could be on an exchange of goods (food for weapons) basis, using local currencies and therefore by-passing the use of US$ and Euro. This mechanism is being implemented by Russia/China in their trade agreements.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:49 am

    Keep in mind that the EU has already threatened countries not to trade with Russia and take up "their" contracts while Russia is banning imports from the countries that are putting them under sanction.

    What I think the EU and NATO might not realise that these alternative sources Russia is exploring are likely permanent new trade relations and if they can get these links up and running properly they might not go back to buying from the economic trade block called the EU.

    Such realisation might be a harder pill to swallow than Su-24s in Argentina.

    Leasing today could mean gifted aircraft in the future as they are withdrawn from Russian AF service...

    They might do the same with Iran to encourage a future upgrade, perhaps to a modified Su-30M or a cheaper simpler model of the Su-34... perhaps with interceptor versions also developed which would be useful to both countries.


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    Post  George1 on Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:54 pm

    Argentina to Continue Purchasing Russian Mi-171 to Fly to Antarctica

    Argentina has repeatedly spoken in favor of a new contract for the supply of Russian helicopters.

    The holding ‘Russian Helicopters’ expects to sign new contracts with Argentina in the coming year.

    Already, Argentina has purchased two Mi-171 helicopters to fly to Antarctica.

    "We look forward to strengthening the negotiating process for the purchase of the Russian helicopters, following the visit of the head of state of Argentina to Moscow,” said the deputy head of the holding Alexander Scherbinin.

    According to him, the Argentinian side has repeatedly spoken in favor of a new contract for the supply of Russian helicopters, as the “experience of their operation in Antarctica confirmed their excellent performance."

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/latam/20150417/1021023967.html#ixzz3XZfyWZdX
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    Re: Russia - Argentina military contracts

    Post  Viktor on Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:25 am

    Apparently, Argentina is interested at Yak-130, Pancir-S1 and S-300

    Tula "armor" interested in Argentina
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    Re: Russia - Argentina military contracts

    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:46 am

    Can they afford all that?


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    Re: Russia - Argentina military contracts

    Post  xeno on Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:22 am

    Of course they cannot, but Russia will loan them just like these agreements made these two days, Russia will invest etc..., actually the real question is can Russia afford these (all these economic agrees need Russian investment)?
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    Re: Russia - Argentina military contracts

    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:55 am

    It can assuming they're productive investments.....actually that seems to be the Russian (and Chinese) strategy.

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    Re: Russia - Argentina military contracts

    Post  mack8 on Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:47 pm

    Viktor wrote:Apparently, Argentina is interested at Yak-130, Pancir-S1 and S-300

    Tula "armor" interested in Argentina

    That is all good, but how about some MiG-35 or Su-30, some Kilo or Lada subs and modern surface ships, and you know this may be in the realm of fantasy, but since they have a long tradition of carrier operations how about refurbishing Kiev or Minsk (IF they could still be usable) to something similar to Vikramaditya - either refurbished in Russia or perhaps China, and fitted with a squadron of MiG-29K? Smile

    I am aware of their apparent problems, and also aware of the artificially low military budget, but they are a big country, as i understand rich in resources, so surely mutually beneficial comprehensive deals with Russia and China and increased trading could significantly improve their position. There is always a way if there is the will.
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    Re: Russia - Argentina military contracts

    Post  George1 on Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:10 pm

    Argentina Eyes Another Batch of Russian Mi-171 Helicopters

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/business/20160427/1038711167/argentina-russia-helicopters.html#ixzz47239KUa1


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    Re: Russia - Argentina military contracts

    Post  George1 on Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:58 pm

    Argentina to purchase MiG-29 fighters?

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2399104.html


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