Werewolf wrote:Wikipedia is abused by all kinds of lobbies, here in germany big companies like mercedes pay people to erease several times of bad topics that were posted in wikipedia of "recalls of cars" and edited lot of things to less image damaging stuff or deleted it all together.
Wikipedia like YT and Google which are among the most visited sides are constantly controlled and observed by lobbies and countries, several times already ANNA News was deleted by "copyright issues" which ANNA News holds all themselfs but the alternative media is a thorn in the eyes of western empire USA, same with private journalists who use YT as their main plattform since they can not pay for real studio and several off them have closed accounts for "copy right" or under videolinks "this account was deleted by the (user)" and other nonsense claims like here in Germany GEMA which is a company that is abusing its rights to block videos or sue people for use copyright stuff of usually Musicians but they have blocked Live Stream of Maidan of RT already with this claim of GEMA music copyright bullshit and so on.
Hasbara jews are very active on Youtube for every video that mentions the words israel,jews, palestinia/palestinians, they are also very active on wikishmedia and delete,ban users and articles that are politically not in good light for israhell.
The problem with Wikipedia, they are very vicious. Vicious, because they tried not hurt Russia -soviet's weapons credibility-, enough to boast, to brag, the pretended invicibility of israelis soldiers, and enough to attract you in wikipedia, hence deterring -Russia, Egypt, North Vietnam, Syria, etc...- the rest of non western world to build, or implement a new independant wikipedia.
Indeed, about the T-62 what you could read...
...During the Yom Kippur war, the T-62 was an effective adversary for Israeli Patton and Centurion main battle tanks armed with 105 mm tank guns. The T-62 had an advantage in its better night-fighting capability, but Syrian losses were heavy. The Israelis captured several of these tanks from the Syrians in 1973, and put some of them into service as the Tiran-3...
You notice, they named october 1973's war, as Kippur war, arabs name 1973's war as ramadhan's war. Just only with this quote, it gives the identity of those who are responsible of wikipedia.
Against Israel, the T-62 seemed be effective, well, but only again Centurion, and M-48. And the M-60 ?
The response of this israeli censor is in another vicious quote.
...was converted because the new US made M60 main battle tanks started arriving in Israel...
Half of lie, and half of truth. The M-60 was delivered in Israel around end of 1970. And many M-60 that participated in sinai's battlefield with israeli's army and with US army. This is what my friend asserted me, if I did not believe him in the past, more than never, I believed him now.
Following by this stupid quote :
....The Iraqi T-62s performed well against opposing Iranian tanks such as M48s, M60A1s and Chieftains in the Iran-Iraq war. Iraqi T-62 participated in the biggest tank battle of the war in early 1981. Iran has lost 200 Chieftain and M60A1 tanks during battle. In return, Iraq has lost 50 T-62 tanks. The remaining Iranian armor, turned about and withdrew
As U can see , there is a big contradiction between the first quote, and the secund quote. The T-62 with its redoutable smoothbore gun did a toll against the western -the same israeli standard- iranian' tanks, during 1981. As you can see, the T-62 is really effective against all the panoply of western tank. Well, the T-62 is effective against western tank if and only if its ennemies are not israelis. What does it mean ? U have all the response.
In Wikipedia you could see the same stupidity when look for about Phantom F-4, egyptian, syrian, iraqi Mig-21 and Su-7. How a heavy fighter who completly failed during Vietnam war with US hand could be successfull with israelis' hands ?
The Mig-21 is light fighter-bomber, very agile, nevertheless, not as Mig-17, but far better than the F-4 Phantom II, you can easily imagine what would be the result in dogfight, chiefly, knowing the evidence that you will have to fire 20 air-air missiles in hoping to down a single ennemy fighter.
During the october 1973 Israel was near the disparition, they were ready to launch nuclear weapons -Jericho missiles- against Egypt and Syria, after, that US and nato partners launched their huge bridgehead and US participated directly in combat.
The result was catastrophic too, and US threatened to use nuclear weapons, Soviet Union was constrainted to limit the help to Egypt, and Syria.
The T-62 during the seventies -I suppose untill now- was beside the Leopard I the best tank in the world. The facts prove that. If, indeed, the T-62 suffered heavy losses, this is not because of soviet technology, but because of the concept of the tank itself. US Phantom -as they outnumbered egyptian air force, because EAF suffered with lack of spare parts- bombed the bataillon of tanks, even with that, the result was mixed. But the T-62 staid intrinsically one the best tank in world during the seventies. No use to tell you more about the T-72. Even now, in fair conditions, I suspect the powerfull gun of the T-72 could still burnt the M1-Abrams, Merkava, or every western tank.