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    Post  henriksoder on Wed May 20, 2015 12:23 pm

    Hello

    I want to discuss North- and South koreas military. According to my sources South Korea got like hundreds thousands soldiers, but that seem impossible or disproportionally. Do you guys know how strong North- and South military actually is? I mean according to source from Wikipedia Korea's common tank force are at 6000 tanks, and that should be proportionally to like a few hundreds thousand soldiers in South Korea and a proportionally amount in North Korea? North Korea seems to have a huge army, how can they be stationed military, North Korea? I mean how many tanks, aircrafts for example got North Korea? How strong is North- and South Korea's military, I mean they seem to be able to organize millions soldiers, but I guess that they can organize that amount but they can never organize a such amount in military force? I mean they shoulden't be able to have the military equipment? I guess that the hole Korea can organize a military force, including a few hundreds thousands soldiers, like around 5000 tanks, and like thousand aircrafts? But it should be bad equipped and not have the military capability to organize themselves for a proportionally military force, with, for example, Japan, North Korea and South Korea to invade US? What is your opinions and knowledge about North- and South Korea's military power in the world?

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    Re: Korean People's Army: News

    Post  Book. on Sat May 23, 2015 9:43 am

    NK army + artillry strong. but lack AF
    SK army tiny. but hitech!

    No tanker. heavy lifter. LPD. it no force projet



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    Re: Korean People's Army: News

    Post  Werewolf on Sat May 30, 2015 1:22 am

    http://sputniknews.com/us/20150530/1022733556.html

    The United States unleashed a version of the Stuxnet computer virus five years ago in an unsuccessful attack on North Korea's nuclear weapons program, people familiar with the covert campaign said.

    The operation began at the same time as a successful US-Israeli joint effort in which the Stuxnet virus was deployed to destroy a thousand or more Iranian centrifuges that were enriching uranium, Reuters reported.
    On Thursday, Reuters reported that Iran and North Korea were engaged in behind-the-scenes attempts to work on a nuclear weapons program. However, an official source from the Iranian Embassy in France dismissed the claim, according to Iranian News Agency IRNA.
    © Sputnik/ Valeriy Melnikov
    Report About Iran, N Korea Nuclear Cooperation False

    For the attack against North Korea's nuclear program, Stuxnet's developers produced a related virus that would be activated when it encountered Korean-language settings on an infected machine, one US intelligence source told Reuters.

    US agents, however, were unable to access the core machines that ran Pyongyang's nuclear weapons program, said another source, a former high-ranking intelligence official who was briefed on the program.

    As one of the most insular countries in the world, North Korea's utter secrecy, as well as the extreme isolation of its communications systems, foiled the National Security Agency-led campaign, the official told Reuters.

    North Korea's communications networks are similarly isolated. One needs police permission just to own a computer, and the open Internet is unknown except to a tiny elite. Furthermore, the country has one main conduit for Internet connections to the outside world, through China, Reuters reported.
    North Korean military hackers are capable of attacks on power plants and banks, and could severely destroy infrastructure, as well as kill people, a prominent North Korean defector and rights activist said Friday.
    N Korea Military Hackers Could Launch Deadly Attacks – Prominent Dissident

    Iran, on the other hand, engages in widespread Internet use and had interactions with companies from around the globe.

    Experts who spoke with Reuters said there are similarities between North Korea and Iran's nuclear programs, and the two countries continue to collaborate on military technology. Because of that overlap, the NSA would not have had to modify Stuxnet much to make it capable of destroying centrifuges in North Korea.

    Despite the subtle differences between the programs, the NSA attack was thwarted by the inability to infiltrate North Korea's program in the first place.

    David Albright, founder of the Institute for Science and International Security and an authority on North Korea's nuclear program, told Reuters that US hackers probably tried to get to North Korea by compromising technology suppliers from Iran, Pakistan or China.

    As for the successful attack on Iran, a leading theory is that Stuxnet was placed by a sophisticated espionage program developed by a team close to the virus' authors, known as the Equation Group.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/us/20150530/1022733556.html#ixzz3bZZcwVR7

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    Re: Korean People's Army: News

    Post  George1 on Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:21 pm

    I wonder how North Korea will match air superiority of South Korea (they have far more modern aircraft). No aircraft acquisitions are realistic under the sanctions

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    Post  Cyberspec on Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:22 pm

    George1 wrote:I wonder how North Korea will match air superiority of South Korea (they have far more modern aircraft). No aircraft acquisitions are realistic under the sanctions

    Their Airdefence is nothing to sneaze at...as for sanctions....well, DPRK Kh-35's in action (apparently in production)





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    Post  higurashihougi on Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:59 pm

    George1 wrote:I wonder how North Korea will match air superiority of South Korea (they have far more modern aircraft). No aircraft acquisitions are realistic under the sanctions

    Can they get it from Russia and/or China ?

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    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:50 am

    higurashihougi wrote:
    George1 wrote:I wonder how North Korea will match air superiority of South Korea (they have far more modern aircraft). No aircraft acquisitions are realistic under the sanctions

    Can they get it from Russia and/or China ?

    They tend to get stuff via 3rd parties usually

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    Post  George1 on Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:02 am

    higurashihougi wrote:
    George1 wrote:I wonder how North Korea will match air superiority of South Korea (they have far more modern aircraft). No aircraft acquisitions are realistic under the sanctions

    Can they get it from Russia and/or China ?

    the last aircraft they acquired were some second hand MiG-21s in early 90s


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    Post  Dima on Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:44 pm

    George1 wrote:I wonder how North Korea will match air superiority of South Korea (they have far more modern aircraft). No aircraft acquisitions are realistic under the sanctions
    Few things that comes to my mind to address this problem. 
    1) A-50
    2) Buk-M1/2/3
    3) MiG-21/J-7, total around ~140-150, upgraded to new standard with new radar, RD-33 and BVR missiles to improve its interception and fighting capability.
    4) MiG-23, around 50 numbers, upgrade.
    5) MiG-29, around 30 units, upgrade and increase the numbers from old stock or buy new.

    It will take time to match the number of newer aircraft's that ROK have, but with a platform to give situational awareness and guide and utilise current aircrafts will be the shortest route to enhance the fighting capability of the DPR Koreas AF in the shortest possible time. But Russia has to open up fully and support DPRK, it is time for Russia to open eyes wide enough to see the reality and dump all the sanctions imposed on DPRK. A strong DPRK will be a good asset for Russia, help them develop their industries and military.

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    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:09 am

    They've got pretty powerful artillery forces to partially ofset their weakness in airpower...lots of ballistic missiles and thousands of artillery pieces. Their long range artillery can reach even Seoul from their fortified positions on the border....it won't be easy to neutralise that threat.

    I don't think Russia or even China want to escalate tensions between the 2 Korea's. They both see SK as a major business partner and now they seem to be trying to incorporate NK in various ventures as well....the North's geographic position means they can benefit as a transit country. If they play their cards right it would mean major investments in their infrastructure

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    Post  mack8 on Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:03 am

    NK women pilots flying MiG-21bis, some nice images:

    http://477768.livejournal.com/2852645.html


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    Post  mack8 on Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:32 am

    Dima wrote:
    George1 wrote:I wonder how North Korea will match air superiority of South Korea (they have far more modern aircraft). No aircraft acquisitions are realistic under the sanctions
    Few things that comes to my mind to address this problem. 
    1) A-50
    2) Buk-M1/2/3
    3) MiG-21/J-7, total around ~140-150, upgraded to new standard with new radar, RD-33 and BVR missiles to improve its interception and fighting capability.
    4) MiG-23, around 50 numbers, upgrade.
    5) MiG-29, around 30 units, upgrade and increase the numbers from old stock or buy new.

    It will take time to match the number of newer aircraft's that ROK have, but with a platform to give situational awareness and guide and utilise current aircrafts will be the shortest route to enhance the fighting capability of the DPR Koreas AF in the shortest possible time. But Russia has to open up fully and support DPRK, it is time for Russia to open eyes wide enough to see the reality and dump all the sanctions imposed on DPRK. A strong DPRK will be a good asset for Russia, help them develop their industries and military.

    I agree that in the current situation it appears unlikely they will be sold aircraft by Russia and China any time soon, but on the other hand if they don't then what aircraft are they going to fly in say 2030? It is true that parts for MiG-21/23/29/Su-25 are still relatively easy to find, and they probably got stocks of spare parts from China for the J-5/J-6/H-5 but spares and airframe resources will run out one day, not to mention chronic obsolescence. It is also true that they don't want to sell to NK now because the commercial relations with SK (and let's be honest US too, at least as far as China is concerned) brings a lot more benefits than selling to NK. But if they don't NK will get increasingly outmatched in the air so at least if they want  NKs relative detterence to continue they have to give them something. Based on political factors possible choices would be trainers like K-8 and/or Yak-130/ L-15, fighters like MiG-35 and/or FC-1 and second hand late J-7 models to replace all the old MiG-15UTI/J-5/6/H-5 and MiG-21F/PFM, some helicopters etc. No long range or attack aircraft as it will be seen as "aggressive". Mind you, could well may be that it would be only China to provide anything new, perhaps China and Russia have agreed behind doors that NK is entirely in the chinese sphere of influence.

    Considering though the remarkable capabilities of NK's defence industry, i.e. they do tanks and APCs, naval missiles and FACs, long range BMs and advanced SAMs like Pongae-5 (S-300 like), not to mention nukes, i wonder if they would have the capability to build their own jet trainers and light fighters. Communist Romania (which i find the closest to NK in terms of indigenous defence industry development over the years- if RSR will still exist today i am certain it's military industry would be at least as capable as that of NK) could build aircraft like IAR-93 and 99 (though with substantial external systems like engines even if under licence) and they were close to develop a supersonic fighter (IAR-S), the biggest stumbling block being the engine.

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    Re: Korean People's Army: News

    Post  flamming_python on Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:35 am

    Cyberspec wrote:Pics of the Sub that performed the recent SLBM test...looks like it's equipped with a single launcher




    Looks like NK's sub-building industry is roughly where the USSRs was in the late 50s; this sub bears a resemblance to the Foxtrot class launched in 1957; while the first Soviet SSBNs were introduced in 1959 (Hotel class).

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    Post  max steel on Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:06 pm

    russia nd china made a big mistake by agreeing on  usa decision to place un sanctions over N.Korea ! Theyshould have vetoed it . Sell hi-tech plane to N.Koreans dammit . S.Korea made a bold move though by not allowing ussa to place its thaad on s.k soil .Though muritards sent live anthrax sample to its base in s.korea and n.korea claimed muritards are planning a biological attack against them . Same case with Russia where usa has constructed a biological facality in Tbilsi , Georgia likely to create bio weapons close to both russi and north korea border .

    a.koreans arent dumb like nato nations but they are still stupid though .

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    Post  Cyberspec on Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:58 am

    flamming_python wrote:Looks like NK's sub-building industry is roughly where the USSRs was in the late 50s; this sub bears a resemblance to the Foxtrot class launched in 1957; while the first Soviet SSBNs were introduced in 1959 (Hotel class).

    That's because it probably is a clone of the Foxtrot...

    I think the NK has proven it knows how to use subs pretty well...ROKS Cheonan sinking

    On the night of the sinking the U.S. and South Korea navies were engaged in joint anti-submarine warfare exercises 75 miles away from the site of the sinking. This exercise was part of the annual Key Resolve/Foal Eagle war exercise, described as "one of the world's largest simulated exercises", and involved many modern U.S. and South Korean warships


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    Post  George1 on Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:55 pm

    North Korean Air Force Competitions:

    MiG-29




    Su-25



    MiG-23



    MiG-21, Shenyang J-6



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    Seems like North Korea placed some of their Goas on trucks, trying to imitate Pechora-2M Smile

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    Post  max steel on Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:19 pm

    North Korea displayed the KN-08 intercontinental ballistic missile which has a range of to 10,000 kilometers

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    Post  Militarov on Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:14 pm

    "A wooden boat with North Korean Army written in Hangul on it was found adrift in the Sea of Japan off Wajima, Ishikawa Prefecture, on Friday. KANAZAWA, ISHIKAWA PREF. – A wooden boat with North Korean Army written in Hangul on it was found adrift in the Sea of Japan off Wajima, Ishikawa Prefecture, on Friday, informed sources said.Fishing nets were also discovered in the 12.5-meter-long, 2.8-meter-wide, engine-equipped boat, which was sinking, the sources said. The Japan Coast Guard recovered the boat. The red Hangul lettering read, “The Korean People’s Army No. 325,” the sources said.

    The authorities are investigating whether the boat truly belongs to the North Korean Army and why it was adrift near Japan. In nearby waters, two other wooden boats were found capsized on Friday. The bodies of four men were discovered in one of them together with fishing nets, and six bodies were found in the other on Saturday. The Japan Coast Guard suspects the three boats sailed from North Korea."



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    Post  George1 on Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:21 am

    North Korea is reportedly possesses around 35 MiG-29.
    However only 17 have been obtained from Soviet Union, 14 from order and 3 from assembling parts (and 3 of them have been put of service, so the total operational number doesn't exceed 14)
    http://spioenkop.blogspot.gr/2014/02/the-kpaf-investigated-north-koreas-mig.html

    So my question is how North Korea obtain the rest around 20 MiG-29s??


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    Post  Militarov on Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:27 am

    George1 wrote:North Korea is reportedly possesses around 35 MiG-29.
    However only 17 have been obtained from Soviet Union, 14 from order and 3 from assembling parts (and 3 of them have been put of service, so the total operational number doesn't exceed 14)
    http://spioenkop.blogspot.gr/2014/02/the-kpaf-investigated-north-koreas-mig.html

    So my question is how North Korea obtain the rest around 20 MiG-29s??

    Legit sources state that NK has only 14 operational MiG29s, even the state of those 3 locally assembled is not clear, some sources say they were never actually completed but used for canibalisation to keep 9.12 frames up and running. So those stories about 35 MiG29s are most likely just wild imagination and wishes.

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    Post  George1 on Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:03 am

    Is this accurate? 23.8% of GDP??? affraid attack

    Military Burden: North Korea Spends Quarter of GDP on Armed Forces


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    Post  Militarov on Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:52 pm



    What South Korean intelligence agencies claim regarding NK drones.

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    Post  Militarov on Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:54 pm

    George1 wrote:Is this accurate? 23.8% of GDP??? affraid  attack

    Military Burden: North Korea Spends Quarter of GDP on Armed Forces

    Well possibly even more, Yugoslavia had significant military spendings, probably even more than that. But in Yugoslavia it was like this, we need a bridge, but our construction companies are busy... nevermind Army will train its engineers on this bridge, and whoala, JNA building bridge with own fuel, own food, own workforce, own machines, only material is provided by the state. So thats why alot of money was going to the army, still indirectly it was coming back to "people".

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