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    archangelski wrote:

    That was a great little plane that the Soviets loved!
    The photos are quite telling on the contribution of Allied kit in helping the USSR sustaining itself during 1941 and 1942.
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    That was a great little plane that the Soviets loved!
    The photos are quite telling on the contribution of Allied kit in helping the USSR sustaining itself during 1941 and 1942.

    The Soviets did like the Aircobra but they used it as an air to air interceptor and not a ground attack aircraft like the west thought they did.

    Most of the material supplied in 41-42 was second rate cast offs... the Russians got British Aircobras because the British didn't want them.

    Of course anything is better than nothing but claiming it helped win the war is a joke.

    BTW it is amusing as the pilots that had the best kill records in American planes in the European theatre were Soviet pilots in Aircobras.


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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:35 pm

    GarryB wrote:

    That was a great little plane that the Soviets loved!
    The photos are quite telling on the contribution of Allied kit in helping the USSR sustaining itself during 1941 and 1942.

    The Soviets did like the Aircobra but they used it as an air to air interceptor and not a ground attack aircraft like the west thought they did.

    Most of the material supplied in 41-42 was second rate cast offs... the Russians got British Aircobras because the British didn't want them.

    Of course anything is better than nothing but claiming it helped win the war is a joke.

    BTW it is amusing as the pilots that had the best kill records in American planes in the European theatre were Soviet pilots in Aircobras.


    I find it curious that often the same persons who claim that the Lend-Lease had some sort of "miraculous" impact on the Eastern Front often downplay the role of the resistance movements in the winning of the Second World War.

    So the Lend-Lease had a huge impact but the efforts of the partisans and other members of the resistance movements did not?

    So why did German troops on the Eastern Front did not receive their Christmas of 1943 gifts until May of 1944? You can read about it in an English-language Western book about the Luftwaffe Field Divisions. Allied aerial bombings? I doubt it, since there were very few of these carried out over Poland and the occupied part of the Soviet Union. Some of these delays could have been actually caused by the Soviet air attacks, but most certainly not all.



    You can check some related links on this matter:


    Polish Partisans

    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-ZiemiLubelskiej.html

    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-SynowieMazowsza.html

    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-ZiemiKieleckiej.html

    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-GL.html

    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-GL42.html

    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Rablow.html



    Soviet Partisan "Railway Aces"

    http://www.wio.ru/galgrnd/podryvnk.htm


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