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    Re: Great Patriotic War (USSR in World War II)

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:04 pm

    The Great Patriotic War took so heavy toll on Soviet demographics that by early 1945 even this large manpower reserves were drying out. Deployment of additional 500,000 troops to the eastern front would be catastrophic for the Red Army.
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    Post  max steel on Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:01 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:The Great Patriotic War took so heavy toll on Soviet demographics that by early 1945 even this large manpower reserves were drying out. Deployment of additional 500,000 troops to the eastern front would be catastrophic for the Red Army.


    I disagree about the term "catastrophic" but there is no denial that mobilization strain was immense.
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    Post  Werewolf on Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:28 pm

    The Soviet union had ~57 mln reservists, drying out... certainly not.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:42 pm

    Werewolf wrote:The Soviet union had ~57 mln reservists, drying out... certainly not.
    Where does the data come from?
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:54 am

    They also suffered a huge shortage of troops by the end of 1941 when a large portion of their most heavily populated western territory was occupied by the Germans... didn't really stop them from fronting up each year with new troops.

    The western militaries were in much worse shape by the end of the war and they had Europe to rebuild.

    The ten or so million Soviet Troops killed was comparable to the number of people killed in Germany during the war... many of the 20 odd million Soviets killed were women and children and the elderly.


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    Vomited 3 times at least
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    Post  archangelski on Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:20 am

    Even after so many years, the same disgusting ideas remains in the minds of the Nazis...
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    Post  Werewolf on Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:26 pm

    Well that is news, Stalin is a bolshevist...

    Yes, clearly brainwashed and the comment section is nazi infiltrated aswell.
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    Well that is quite the find. Suspect
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    Post  Militarov on Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:01 pm

    Werewolf wrote:Well that is news, Stalin is a bolshevist...

    Yes, clearly brainwashed and the comment section is nazi infiltrated aswell.

    Comment section is more than amusing i must agree. But these guys in videos are hillarious Smile
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    Post  JohninMK on Mon May 02, 2016 12:02 am

    The first Russia/US meeting on the Elbe photo to get back to US HQ. Pretty dangerous as well. Apparently there was three meeting that day, the one before the official photo opportunity.

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    Post  higurashihougi on Sun May 08, 2016 3:46 pm

    https://www.rt.com/news/342247-children-war-diaries-book/

    A book of 35 diaries written by Soviet children in 1941-1945, the years of the Great Patriotic War, has been translated into English. It contains written testimonies of the horrors of fighting with Nazis documented with a child’s sincerity.

    "In adults' diaries, the author is still trying to build some sort of drama, while children have been sincerely writing about what they saw and felt, and that's the main value of these documents. They haven't been edited by anyone, they've been written honestly, with no censorship or self-censorship applied," the book's editor, Tatyana Kuznetsova, told RT.

    One boy who had to live in a foster home was writing in his small notebook about how many of his friends were dying of hunger and at the same time drew "amazing" images of food such as "ham and chicken" in the pages of his diary, the editor said.

    Featuring memories and impressions of youngsters who lived through some of the most traumatic episodes in world's history, the book, titled, "Children of War," includes diaries written by children during the 1941-44 siege of Leningrad, in Nazi concentration camps, as well as those written while living in occupied territories and on the frontline.
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    Post  Militarov on Sun May 08, 2016 11:25 pm



    Results of the pool, on question which country contributed the most to the defeat of Nazi Germany.
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    Post  Regular on Mon May 09, 2016 12:35 am

    Militarov wrote:

    Results of the pool, on question which country contributed the most to the defeat of Nazi Germany.
    Defeat in France? Defeat in Western Front would be more precise and I would give brits some more credit there too.
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    Post  Militarov on Mon May 09, 2016 12:38 am

    Regular wrote:
    Militarov wrote:

    Results of the pool, on question which country contributed the most to the defeat of Nazi Germany.
    Defeat in France? Defeat in Western Front would be more precise and I would give brits some more credit there too.

    Well Brits basically just managed to defend themself with very sizeable help from the US and colonies. Other than that their affect on war overall was fairly minor, not bigger than one by Canada/Australia or China for that matter.
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    Post  Regular on Mon May 09, 2016 1:01 am

    Militarov wrote:
    Regular wrote:
    Militarov wrote:

    Results of the pool, on question which country contributed the most to the defeat of Nazi Germany.
    Defeat in France? Defeat in Western Front would be more precise and I would give brits some more credit there too.

    Well Brits basically just managed to defend themself with very sizeable help from the US and colonies. Other than that their affect on war overall was fairly minor, not bigger than one by Canada/Australia or China for that matter.
    Well their convoys were pretty helpful as far as I can say. They were great at hurting luftwaffe too.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon May 09, 2016 8:40 am

    Just shows the level of brain washing in a country that ended up in the US sphere...

    It is not that the countries efforts have changed... just the perception of their efforts...

    I am sure in a few years time Polish children will believe they were liberated from the Nazis by the US... in 1991.... you know... the real end of WWII.

    The convoys were useful but by the time they were actually large enough to have any real effect the Germans had already been stopped at the gates of Moscow and pushed back... the chance for the Germans to get a quick victory had gone... of course the real issue was the german treatment of the Soviet people... they could never win because they gave the natives no choice... capturing Moscow didn't help Napoleon, why would anyone believe it would be different for Hitler?


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