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    Post  George1 on Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:49 pm

    Russia to Test Two Bulava Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles This Autumn

    MOSCOW, June 2 (RIA Novosti) – Russia will hold two test launches of the Bulava submarine-launched ballistic missile by the end of the year, including one from the Borey-class submarine, the Russian Defense Ministry said Monday.

    “There will be two launches this autumn – the first one will be held in September, from the Vladimir Monomakh submarine as part of its trials, the second [launch] is due in November,” Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov said.

    The rest of the Bulava test launches are scheduled for 2015. The missiles will be launched by Northern Fleet and Pacific Fleet submarines.

    Bulava is Russia's cutting-edge intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM). Equipped with 10 warheads with a 9,000-kilometer range, it is even capable of withstanding nuclear attack.

    Test launches of the Bulava have been experiencing some problems. Last September during state trials of the Aleksander Nevsky nuclear-powered submarine a Bulava rocket experienced a malfunction. Following this incident Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu ordered to hold five additional launches of Bulava missiles.
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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  George1 on Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:00 pm

    Bulava missile to be launched in autumn — source

    MOSCOW, August 13. /ITAR-TASS/. The intercontinental submarine-launched ballistic missile Bulava will be launched in September or October, a source in the Russian naval headquarters familiar with the process said on Wednesday.

    The missile will be launched from Borei-class strategic missile submarines Alexander Nevsky and Vladimir Monomakh, the source told ITAR-TASS.

    Vladimir Monomakh was initially planned to shoot Bulava in August or September, the lead vessel Yuriy Dolgorukiy - in November, while Alexander Nevsky was not planned to participate this year. Alexander Nevsky is the first serial Borei-class submarine and began service in 2013. Vladimir Monomakh is planned to join the fleet in late 2014.

    Alexander Nevsky and Vladimir Monomakh were earlier reported to make three test Bulava launches from the Sea of Okhotsk in the summer or autumn of 2015. For this, the submarines would follow the Northern Sea Route with 16 missiles each, said a source in the governmental military-industrial commission.

    The military planned a total of five test launches, Deputy Defense Minister Yuriy Borisov said.

    Bulava R-30 is the Russian state-of-the-art three-stage solid-fuel missile that carries up to 10 independent warheads and has a range of 8,000 kilometers (5,000 miles).
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    The missile aimed to equip two strategic submarines Shark and Borei has been developed since 1998.

    On September 6, 2013, Alexander Nevsky launched Bulava in the White Sea at the Kura test range in Kamchatka. The rocket left the launch container but a malfunction occurred in the second minute of flight. According to the governmental commission, the failure resulted from a mistake in nozzle material production. Bulava launches would be resumed in the autumn of 2014, Borisov said later.
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    Post  Viktor on Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:22 pm

    Nice thumbsup

    Russian Navy confirms plans two launches "Mace" in 2014
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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  Viktor on Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:35 pm

    Todays Bulava launch ...







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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  Mike E on Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:23 pm

    Looks liquid fuelled even though it is not... Must be some kind of smokeless propellant.
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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:33 pm

    Viktor wrote:Todays Bulava launch ...








    That's not Bulava; it's journalism.
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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  Mike E on Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:38 pm

    Now that I think about it.... Not only that, but it explains the lack of smoke produced by the "missile".
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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  Mike E on Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:47 pm

     
    That is what a Bulava launch really looks like...

    However, this is also from a Bulava launch...
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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  Viktor on Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:37 pm

    Nope, its the real thing

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx6JDg32EQ4

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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  Mike E on Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:43 pm

    I'm just bewildered by the lack of smoke... The launch looks like a R-29RMU launch, look at this: 

    IMHO, this was a liquid fueled rocket.

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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:55 pm

    i think the title of thread must change..
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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  Mike E on Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:07 am

    George1 wrote:i think the title of thread must change..
    For sure...
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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:15 am

    Mike E wrote:
    George1 wrote:i think the title of thread must change..
    For sure...

    I triple this notion, the name should change to "Bulava SLBM development thread".
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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  Mike E on Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:37 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Mike E wrote:
    George1 wrote:i think the title of thread must change..
    For sure...

    I triple this notion, the name should change to "Bulava SLBM development thread".
    GarryB?
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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  Big_Gazza on Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:59 pm

    Mike E wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Mike E wrote:
    George1 wrote:i think the title of thread must change..
    For sure...

    I triple this notion, the name should change to "Bulava SLBM development thread".
    GarryB?

    My take was that the vid was just file footage from a previous Sineva launch, ie sloppy journalism. I've never seen any solids that run with a near smoke-less exhaust plume.
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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  Mike E on Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:20 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Mike E wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Mike E wrote:
    George1 wrote:i think the title of thread must change..
    For sure...

    I triple this notion, the name should change to "Bulava SLBM development thread".
    GarryB?

    My take was that the vid was just file footage from a previous Sineva launch, ie sloppy journalism.  I've never seen any solids that run with a near smoke-less exhaust plume.
    Same here! It just doesn't look right compared to older Bulava launches, and becuase the missile is still relatively secretive... The only liquid-fuelled stage is the final stage, which was not shown in the video.

     - Thanks to whoever for changing the title.
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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:21 pm

    Mike E wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Mike E wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Mike E wrote:
    George1 wrote:i think the title of thread must change..
    For sure...

    I triple this notion, the name should change to "Bulava SLBM development thread".
    GarryB?

    My take was that the vid was just file footage from a previous Sineva launch, ie sloppy journalism.  I've never seen any solids that run with a near smoke-less exhaust plume.
    Same here! It just doesn't look right compared to older Bulava launches, and becuase the missile is still relatively secretive... The only liquid-fuelled stage is the final stage, which was not shown in the video.

     - Thanks to whoever for changing the title.

    Bulava is all-solid. The liquid third stage myth was the work of RIA Novosti and the like; it probably referred to another missile type.
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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  Mike E on Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:29 pm

    Thanks for correcting me.... Either way I still don't think the video launch was of a Bulava.
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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:18 pm

    Mike E wrote:I still don't think the video launch was of a Bulava.

    I agree.
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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  Mike E on Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:45 am

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    Mike E wrote:I still don't think the video launch was of a Bulava.

    I agree.
    Nice to know others have the same opinion... Very Happy
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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:30 am

    Mike E wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    Mike E wrote:I still don't think the video launch was of a Bulava.

    I agree.
    Nice to know others have the same opinion... Very Happy

    To elaborate upon this matter a bit further, I should add that Bulava is a stocky missile with a fineness ratio of 12.1/2 ≈ 6. The video clip shows a missile in the R-29RMU category with a much higher fineness ratio.
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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  Mike E on Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:02 am

    Also agreed... Makes me wonder if there are any *real* videos of the launch.
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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:11 am

    Mike E wrote:Also agreed... Makes me wonder if there are any *real* videos of the launch.

    Test launches are tracked in multiple spectrums, videoed, photographed, and telemetered, but very little of this ever gets publicized. For example, have you ever seen an R-9 ICBM launch video? I don't think I have. Actually for decades, outside of Russia, R-26 was mistaken for R-9. Even now, not many know about the entirely different concept of round-the-clock readiness, high-performance, cryogenic propellant system that R-9 ICBM utilized.
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    Re: Bulava SLBM Development Thread:

    Post  Mike E on Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:42 pm

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    Mike E wrote:Also agreed... Makes me wonder if there are any *real* videos of the launch.

    Test launches are tracked in multiple spectrums, videoed, photographed, and telemetered, but very little of this ever gets publicized. For example, have you ever seen an R-9 ICBM launch video? I don't think I have. Actually for decades, outside of Russia, R-26 was mistaken for R-9. Even now, not many know about the entirely different concept of round-the-clock readiness, high-performance, cryogenic propellant system that R-9 ICBM utilized.

    Still, one would think that Russia would show the real launch as a strategic video to scare off the US. Maybe they just don't care!
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    Post  zg18 on Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:05 am

    Released photo of September 9th launch




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