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There is stupid and then there's this.
[size=48]Turkey plans to buy 120 F-35 fighter jets from US: Erdogan[/size]
Turkey would be mad and stupid to buy F-35.
1) turkey doesn't really need such aircraft
2) it's plagued with issues
3) rising costs and it's already expensive
4) gives usa a hand on the balls of Turkey
5) edro clearly forgets usa backed the attempted coup
The aircraft Turkey would get are export variants (downgraded) and after the S-400 deal likely get a secretly further downgraded version. and likely price hike disguised through an excuse. Turkey should cut its losses and buy other aircraft from non western countries. If they are hell bent on stealth they could do following options:
join a joint venture with China on its J-20 a bit like the arrangements of India and Russia on the FGFA/PMF project.
join the FGFA / PMF project. This may cement the on off deal between India and Russia.
buy export version of Su-57.
All options would likely delay Turkey in getting stealth aircraft as the F-35 deal they would likely receive aircraft quicker. but if they chose one of the options above they would save money and not have the potential of being bent over a barrel if they so much as make usa slightly unhappy in anyway. I think Turkey would be better off buying something like Su-35 & Su-34 and possibly a smaller number of stealth if they really wanted the capability.
f-35
Turkey expected to invest $5 bn in total and has already invested $200 mn
projected cost to buy 120 F-35A @95mn each = $11.4bn
for an EXAMPLE (please note prices could rise or reduce) for same number of aircraft (120) and still regaining a small element of stealth for certain missions. Turkey could get:
su-34 @$50mn x 36 = $1.8bn
su 35 @ $75mn x 60 = $4.5bn
FGFA @$100mn x 24=$2.4bn
total 120 aircraft.
minus $200mn loss in investment for F-35.
which leaves $2.5bn to invest in a joint project such as FGFA/PMF. bearing in mind that Turkey at this stage of the project will unlikely have huge amount of say on the design but likely be able to produce some parts hence the smaller contribution to the project
there was a mention that usa could block parts etc for F-16 turkey am sure would have enough technical know how and connections to keep them flying for years. And course another option that their was talk of a stealth version of Su-35 that could be in development. maybe turkey and Russia could do a joint project on that with turkey allowed to build it's own aircraft for its own use no export sales. This could then replace the F-16.
and before people start jumping all over this please this is just an example and by no means likely to happen or prices 100% correct.
https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/turkey-plans-to-buy-120-f-35-fighter-jets-from-us-erdogan/
[size=48]Turkey plans to buy 120 F-35 fighter jets from US: Erdogan[/size]
Turkey would be mad and stupid to buy F-35.
1) turkey doesn't really need such aircraft
2) it's plagued with issues
3) rising costs and it's already expensive
4) gives usa a hand on the balls of Turkey
5) edro clearly forgets usa backed the attempted coup
The aircraft Turkey would get are export variants (downgraded) and after the S-400 deal likely get a secretly further downgraded version. and likely price hike disguised through an excuse. Turkey should cut its losses and buy other aircraft from non western countries. If they are hell bent on stealth they could do following options:
join a joint venture with China on its J-20 a bit like the arrangements of India and Russia on the FGFA/PMF project.
join the FGFA / PMF project. This may cement the on off deal between India and Russia.
buy export version of Su-57.
All options would likely delay Turkey in getting stealth aircraft as the F-35 deal they would likely receive aircraft quicker. but if they chose one of the options above they would save money and not have the potential of being bent over a barrel if they so much as make usa slightly unhappy in anyway. I think Turkey would be better off buying something like Su-35 & Su-34 and possibly a smaller number of stealth if they really wanted the capability.
f-35
Turkey expected to invest $5 bn in total and has already invested $200 mn
projected cost to buy 120 F-35A @95mn each = $11.4bn
for an EXAMPLE (please note prices could rise or reduce) for same number of aircraft (120) and still regaining a small element of stealth for certain missions. Turkey could get:
su-34 @$50mn x 36 = $1.8bn
su 35 @ $75mn x 60 = $4.5bn
FGFA @$100mn x 24=$2.4bn
total 120 aircraft.
minus $200mn loss in investment for F-35.
which leaves $2.5bn to invest in a joint project such as FGFA/PMF. bearing in mind that Turkey at this stage of the project will unlikely have huge amount of say on the design but likely be able to produce some parts hence the smaller contribution to the project
there was a mention that usa could block parts etc for F-16 turkey am sure would have enough technical know how and connections to keep them flying for years. And course another option that their was talk of a stealth version of Su-35 that could be in development. maybe turkey and Russia could do a joint project on that with turkey allowed to build it's own aircraft for its own use no export sales. This could then replace the F-16.
and before people start jumping all over this please this is just an example and by no means likely to happen or prices 100% correct.
https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/turkey-plans-to-buy-120-f-35-fighter-jets-from-us-erdogan/
