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    GarryB

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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  GarryB on Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:02 am

    In parts they claim it is an Armata type vehicle but they admit it is more of a T-90 type vehicle...

    The critical part is where they claim it is an Armata tank type vehicle... armata is a vehicle family that includes a tank member of that family.

    Seems to have two cannon mounted on the turret... interesting... one on each side...
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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:12 am


    Guys, that's just a fanart, no need to waste time
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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  HUNTER VZLA on Tue May 01, 2018 4:44 am

    very interesting the military industry Serbia would be good to offer their products to Latin America






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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  Militarov on Thu May 10, 2018 12:52 am

    HUNTER VZLA wrote:very interesting the military industry Serbia would be good to offer their products to Latin America







    Quite hard to compete with Chinese, South African and Russian defence industries tho.
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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu May 10, 2018 7:23 am

    Militarov wrote:
    HUNTER VZLA wrote:very interesting the military industry Serbia would be good to offer their products to Latin America







    Quite hard to compete with Chinese, South African and Russian defence industries tho.

    Yugoimport should conduct joint-ventures with the arms industries of those nations. The next state visits for those diplomatic dignitaries, Serbia could leverage economic deals with a military tech development-venture, as a hot export item, it's the easiest way to get a foothold in a market. You don't have to start from scratch, you could just use one countries vehicles for another countries weapon systems.
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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  GarryB on Fri May 11, 2018 2:55 am

    Regarding comments about a lot of the stuff being shown being paint and glue... that is perfectly normal... when there was no money during the 1990s the vast majority of new stuff in Russia was little more than paint and glue.

    A good example is the Mi-28A and Ka-50, which were ready for early service in 1988, yet lacked night and all weather capability. For a decade they talked about upgrading them to night and all weather capability but it was not until after about 2000 before they actually had the night vision cameras to actually make such a platform... and even then another decade before they were at the position of hardware looking anything like what they wanted... and another almost decade later they have the Ka-52 in production but the Mi-28NM is entering production/service.

    It was the same for many other things too, especially UAVs which were shown at every defence event in the 1990s and 2000s, but they had poor optics and were not stable or easy to operate, had poor range and speed and lots of other weaknesses.

    After 2008 when real funding and foreign samples were bought to show Russian makers what was expected, and today UAVs are much more widespread... even used at exercises to monitor them... even used by the exercising forces to contribute to operations... in 1990 the only operational UAVs were the bumblebees used by the artillery units... which were really the only branch of the Russian military that seemed to be interested in UAVs.

    Now even ground and air unmanned vehicles are used for security as well as recon and target spotting.

    The point is that the paint and glue is the web to attract the funding... if they can do that... then there is a good chance of production... the main problem for teh Serbian developers is that the Serbian military is a very small market, whereas for Russian companies the Russian military could buy enough to make their product development viable alone without any export orders... which means it is more likely to go forward... exports become bonus sales.

    For Serbian developers export sales will be their main income if they can get their product developed and into serial production.
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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  Militarov on Fri May 18, 2018 12:57 am

    As some people here asked me in PM about auto-loader on new Serbian howtizer MGS-25 Aleksandar, here is how it looks. Its basically using idea from Sora 122mm howtizer with two "revolvers".





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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  George1 on Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:41 pm

    Repair of FYROM's Mi-171E helicopters in Serbia at the Serbian Aviation Repair Plant Moma Stanoilovich (Batainitsa), while they also received a new color (civilian).
    Repair of the Mi-171E helicopters was carried out in cooperation with Russian enterprises and under the guidance of Russian specialists. Serbia plans to create a regional center for overhaul of all helicopters of the Mi-8 and Mi-24 family.



    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3390434.html
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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  GarryB on Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:49 am

    As some people here asked me in PM about auto-loader on new Serbian howtizer MGS-25 Aleksandar, here is how it looks. Its basically using idea from Sora 122mm howtizer with two "revolvers".

    That video would be rather more convincing if every shot was not a separate cut... it could have been 20 minutes between each of those shots for all we know... and for each shot shown they moved the camera so we know it was not nearly as fast shooting as it appears.
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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  Militarov on Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:02 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    As some people here asked me in PM about auto-loader on new Serbian howtizer MGS-25 Aleksandar, here is how it looks. Its basically using idea from Sora 122mm howtizer with two "revolvers".

    That video would be rather more convincing if every shot was not a separate cut... it could have been 20 minutes between each of those shots for all we know... and for each shot shown they moved the camera so we know it was not nearly as fast shooting as it appears.

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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:27 pm


    Hey Militarov do you think there is any chance of our guys investing in one of those T-72B3M upgrade kits to install on M-84?

    They should fit no problem and price is not horrendous?

    Seeing them rolling around in ''naked'' tanks is super-lame...
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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  Militarov on Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:05 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Hey Militarov do you think there is any chance of our guys investing in one of those T-72B3M upgrade kits to install on M-84?

    They should fit no problem and price is not horrendous?

    Seeing them rolling around in ''naked'' tanks is super-lame...  

    Doubtful, too expencive for us, plus we are barely keeping up with maintenance of current tank fleet. We actually signed a contract to overhaul 12 tank engines by 2020. in FAMOS... so... yeah...

    Its more likely we get to see updates like one shown last year on military proving grounds... i believe this one they call M-84AS1 Very Happy

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