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    Militarov

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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  Militarov on Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:35 pm

    Isos wrote:
    When you know they produced fighters, war ships ... and now they have issues with a rocket, that's sad. If your engineers have issues with physic laws then you can blame just your eduction programs ...


    Produced fighters that werent much of a fighters you know, and that had major issues of their own. And alot of it was licenced. J-22 isnt the shiniest apple in the basket. And you need to understand that Yugoslavia had 25,5 million citizens, and had about 350 companies that directly worked on defence programs. Today you have shrinking Serbia with barely 7 million citizens and no more than dozen companies with permanent defence programs. And those are still producing mostly items that were developed back then. Our major overhaul facility for fighters can overhaul 2 fighters a year, and it used to overhaul dozens.

    Physics is not the problem, they all know it very well, issues are of technical nature.
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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  Militarov on Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:37 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Wouldn't it be in Serbia's best interest then to do lots of JV with lets say Russia, Belarus and others in order to get a cut out of the defense spending pie and as well gain access to the needed tech for their own use?

    What we do the best is to buy items from Belarus, Russia, Ukraine, France, Israel, Slovenia, Netherlands...and who not, then glue it all together and claim its our product Very Happy

    What we could possibly offer to Russia for them to be interested in? Very little really.

    On other hand we are, liked it or not, procuring and exporting materials used in defence indstry from and to, Ukraine. Company in my city is doing some precise tooling for Ukrainians.
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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  d_taddei2 on Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:38 am


    Seems like it isn't that crazy the UAE have copied or bought design something extremely similar the Jobaria defence systems multiple cradle launcher has 240 tubes carrying 122mm rockets effective firing range 16km max firing range 37km. There is also a 300 mm version but feel it's lacking in range.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobaria_Defense_Systems_Multiple_Cradle_Launcher


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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  Cyberspec on Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:08 am

    Pretty interesting....sort of a mini cruise missile riding on top of a MRL round


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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  George1 on Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:36 pm

    Demonstration of Serbian weapons to Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu

    The Ministry of Defense of Russia posted on its website photos on the results of a visit to Serbia by Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu. A number of them are of particular interest, since they show individual samples of armaments of local production. The acquaintance with the Serbian technique took place at the Batajnica airbase. The well-known Serbian military expert Svetozar Jokanovic gave our blog necessary explanations regarding the submitted samples.


    In this photo, in the foreground, the ATGM 9M14 Malyutka (modifications 2F (with a high-explosive warhead) or 2T (with a tandem warhead) and 2T5 - a rocket with an increased range of fire) are seen in the foreground. In the background, the products of the Serbian company Kurshik are visible - mortar mines of 60, 81/82 and 120 mm caliber, as well as grenades (next to Sergei Shoigu) M-75 and M-84 (c) Russian Ministry of Defense


    In this photo, inert samples of the long-range long-range missile "Koshava 1" EK1-2017 equipped with feathers are visible. It is interesting that the tests of the missile system are planned in Pakistan, since Serbia does not have the appropriate ranges. Pakistan, apparently, will become the first export customer of the system (c) Russian Ministry of Defense

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2914919.html


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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:15 am

    Serbia's military industry seems to be showing more serious "signs of life" for the first time since the break up of Yugoslavia

    Work is underway on an upgraded version of the J-22 Orao (Eagle) strike aircraft currently dubbed as Orao 2.0
    Currently only the several 2 seat NJ-22 aircraft are planned for the upgrade.

    Basicaly, the aircraft is to receive new avionics enabling use at night and bad weather and a range of new guided weaponry.



    ..

    R-60MK SR-AAM, TV guided missile VRVZ-200, Laser Guided Bomb LVB-250


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    M-16D guided rocket that can be launched from a quadruple or single tube launcher


    ..

    M-16D + AGM-65 Maverick


    ..

    Jammer RADEOM-1


    ...

    GROM-B modified domestic version of the Kh-23

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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  Militarov on Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:32 am

    Its mostly just buckets of paint and glue tbh. As i worked for a while on certain things for SDPR i can tell you that majority of these projects will end up on that.. projects, papers... mockups... Smile
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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  Cyberspec on Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:02 am

    We shall see...when were you working there?
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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  Militarov on Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:48 am

    Cyberspec wrote:We shall see...when were you working there?

    I was contractor actually. 2012-2015. on few occasions.
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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:48 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    Cyberspec wrote:We shall see...when were you working there?

    I was contractor actually. 2012-2015. on few occasions.

    if Serbia decided to put money towards development, would it take long to produce working examples of these new systems showcased? What about steady production?
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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  Militarov on Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:21 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    Cyberspec wrote:We shall see...when were you working there?

    I was contractor actually. 2012-2015. on few occasions.

    if Serbia decided to put money towards development, would it take long to produce working examples of these new systems showcased? What about steady production?

    Most of the things you saw there are actually working examples, however serial production and severing reliance on import components and materials is totally different story. And ironing out issues is not easy as we lost alot of know-how during last 25 years.

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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  Isos on Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:14 pm

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novi_Avion

    @Militarov Do you think this plane would have been good enough compare to other fighters of its class ? Did they sold its plans to China for J-10 ?
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    Re: Serbian Defence Industry and Arms Exports

    Post  Militarov on Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:02 pm

    Isos wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novi_Avion

    @Militarov Do you think this plane would have been good enough compare to other fighters of its class ? Did they sold its plans to China for J-10 ?

    It would never reach the maturity of F-16 or Gripen most likely. But it would have been good enough replacement for MiG-21s yugoslavia used.

    No, it was in early stages of development when it was scrapped and pushed aside. There was nothing China would have been interested into.


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