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    George1

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    Re: Russian Private Military Companies

    Post  George1 on Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:55 am

    Libya has denied data on contracts with private military companies from the Russian Federation

    Reuters, referring to the head of the Russian private military company of the RSB-Group, Oleg Krinitsina, reported that several dozen employees of this firm conducted an operation in Libya and left the country after it was completed in February. As the agency specifies, their task was the demining of the industrial facility in Benghazi. At the same time, the customer and the specific object, on which his employees acted, were not named.

    "Any agreements or meetings with the Russian side are official and pass through the government of the Russian Federation and the command of the Libyan army," RIA Novosti's al-Manfur said, commenting on the publication of Reuters. He recalled that recently Marshal Khalifa Haftar, commander of the Libyan army, visited Moscow on the official invitation of the Russian authorities.

    The military commander added that any contacts in the future also can not go beyond the official ones. "How can I negotiate with a private company and why?" - said al-Manfur.

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    Re: Russian Private Military Companies

    Post  George1 on Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:52 am

    About the activities of Russian PMCs in Libya

    According to the resource "opex360.com" in the article "Libye: Une société militaire privée russe a envoyé des démineurs près de Benghazi", in accordance with Article 359 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, activities related to mercenarism can be sentenced for up to eight Years imprisonment. However, this does not prevent the existence of private military companies (PMCs), such as Moran Security Group (registered in Belize), Tiger, Antiterror-Orel, Slavonic Corps (registered in Hong Kong) or RSB-Group headquartered in ... Moscow.

    Since 2012, several attempts to legalize the activities of PMCs have failed because of the opposition of the Russian Defense Ministry and the FSB, which have negatively affected the establishment of such organizations, because of fears that such structures, financed by oligarchs, may run counter to the interests of the state. But, in fact, they are tolerated with their presence.

    So, in recent months it was reported on the actions of PECs Slavonic Corps and Wagner (created by Dmitry Utkin, a former GRU officer) in Syria. The same was reported about the Donbass.

    Although two Slavonic Corps executives Vadim Gusev and Yevgeny Sidorov were sentenced to three years in prison for hiring 267 Russian citizens to take part in the fighting in Syria, although they were told that they would protect oil infrastructure facilities, some PMC leaders feel confident , As Dmitry Utkin, who was seen at a reception in the Kremlin in December 2016. And the employees of the "Wagner Group" carried out operations in Syria in close cooperation with the Russian army.

    The uncertainty of the legal status around the PMC is "very useful", since "officially" Russia can say that it does not participate in ground operations in Syria. And if the staff of PMCs are killed, this is not a problem of the Ministry of Defense, because in this regard there is no resonance in the media.

    This appeal to the services of PMCs also allows Moscow to operate in those territories for which there is no intention of seriously interfering. The founder of the RSB-Groups and the graduate of the "KGB academy" Oleg Krinitsyn likes to repeat that "what is not forbidden is allowed". In an interview with the French newspaper Le Figaro last year, he claimed that 86 of his staff, all former military men with experience, carry out demining operations in Libya, in the interests of an unnamed customer.

    A few months later Krinitsyn raised the curtain over the secret in an interview with Reuters. According to him, about 12 Russian PMCs sent dozens of people to the zone controlled by the national Libyan army and report to Marshal Khalifa Haftar and the authorities in Tobruk that are not recognized by the international community.

    The presence of these "counterattacks" was a simple "commercial agreement," Krinitsyn specified. Their mission, which ended in February, was the demining of industrial infrastructure in the area of ​​Benghazi, which were repulsed by the forces of Haftar from the Islamists. In addition, according to Krinitsyn, PMC has the ability to protect their lives and the lives of their customers. In addition, he noted that "according to the military canons, the attack must be followed by a counterattack. And this means that we must destroy the enemy. "

    The head of the RSB-Group also noted that his company did not work with the Russian Ministry of Defense, but, on the other hand, had contacts with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. He did not specify whether the "mission" of contractors was approved by the government of national consensus, formed under the aegis of the United Nations. But all the facts show that this was not.

    Support of Marshal Haftar by Russia is not a surprise. However, Moscow is trying to play its role in the settlement of the Syrian conflict, trying to establish a dialogue between the two warring governments. On March 3, the head of the government of national reconciliation, Fayez al-Sarray, paid a visit to Moscow.

    Haftor is also assisted by Egypt and the UAE, as well as by Frania, which sent troops, advisers from the General Directorate of Foreign Intelligence (DGSE) to his disposal.

    Note bmpd.
    It is interesting that today, with reference to the Reuters news agency, information appeared that US and Egyptian military and diplomatic sources reported that Russia deployed a limited contingent of 22 military and unknown numbers of unmanned aerial vehicles at an airbase in Egypt on the border with Libya.
    Agency sources said that "the United States noticed something that could probably be Russian troops and unmanned aircraft" in the Sidi-Barrani base, located 100 kilometers from the border of Egypt and Libya. According to the interlocutors of Reuters, the purpose of this placement should be "support for the commander of the Libyan army Khalifa Haftar," who on March 3 was defeated in battles with rebels from the Benghazi Defense Brigade, who attacked the oil ports controlled by his forces.
    Cairo denies the presence of the armed forces of other countries. "On the territory of Egypt there are no foreign military forces from any country. This is a matter of sovereignty, "the agency said.

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    Re: Russian Private Military Companies

    Post  JohninMK on Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:04 pm

    Found this interesting. Sounds true but I don't know much about the subject. First paras more at link

    Mercenaries are illegal under Russian law, but that doesn’t stop them from being a central element of the Kremlin’s geopolitical adventurism, whether in Ukraine or, even more clearly, Syria. The tale of Wagner, a St Petersburg outfit at the heart of the fighting in Syria, says much about the privatisation of statecraft and the mobilisation of private enterprise in modern Russia.

    The private security industry is a major sector in Russia, but private military companies (PMCs), those directly involved in fighting in combat operations rather than simply guarding people, goods and facilities, remain outside of Russian law. ChVK (Private Military Company) Wagner, despite having offices in St Petersburg and a training camp on the grounds of a Russian commando base in southern Russia, has managed to thrive, perhaps because its main client has been the Russian state and its Syrian ally.


    https://www.opendemocracy.net/od-russia/mark-galeotti/chvk-wagner-and-privatisation-of-russian-geopolitics
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    Re: Russian Private Military Companies

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:32 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Found this interesting. Sounds true but I don't know much about the subject. First paras more at link

    Mercenaries are illegal under Russian law, but that doesn’t stop them from being a central element of the Kremlin’s geopolitical adventurism, whether in Ukraine or, even more clearly, Syria. The tale of Wagner, a St Petersburg outfit at the heart of the fighting in Syria, says much about the privatisation of statecraft and the mobilisation of private enterprise in modern Russia.

    The private security industry is a major sector in Russia, but private military companies (PMCs), those directly involved in fighting in combat operations rather than simply guarding people, goods and facilities, remain outside of Russian law. ChVK (Private Military Company) Wagner, despite having offices in St Petersburg and a training camp on the grounds of a Russian commando base in southern Russia, has managed to thrive, perhaps because its main client has been the Russian state and its Syrian ally.


    https://www.opendemocracy.net/od-russia/mark-galeotti/chvk-wagner-and-privatisation-of-russian-geopolitics


    OMG, Mark Galeotti at it again... Very Happy

    First of all, mercenaries definitely are illegal under Russian law, however Russian law does not apply outside of Russia. You don't need to be a lawyer to know that it's a slam-dunk case.

    And as for training camp I don't see how it's any different from paramilitary ''patriotic clubs'' in Poland and Baltics or simple historic reenactment society...


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