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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:56 am

    The media learned about the desire of India to buy Russian space chips
    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/science/20160705/1458752482.html#ixzz4DWDtwgCS

    MOSCOW, 5 Jul — RIA Novosti. Russian manufacturer of microelectronics, the company "Angstrem", is negotiating the sale of the party circuits of class "Space" of Indian private firm, working on contracts with the space Agency ISRA, according to "Izvestia".
    Russia for the year increased by half the production of chips for space
    According to the publication, currently the parties are discussing the delivery to India of about ten thousand chips in the amount of about two hundred thousand dollars. Despite the fact that the Indian space program based on its own developments, the country does not have sufficient technology to create their own electronic component base and forced to buy electronics abroad.
    To date, the Russian parts are tested, and if successful the parties will sign a contract for serial delivery. The cost of a single chip ranges from one to twenty dollars, according to "Izvestia".
    The interviewed experts believe that the interest of India to the Russian microelectronics said about the speed of development of domestic high-precision production — a few years ago, Russia radiation-resistant chips are almost not developed.
    According to Western classification IC class "Space" — a particularly reliable products for space applications that can withstand a wide range temperatures and increased radiation. A distinctive feature is their makasarili, and the price of copies of the piece can reach tens of thousands of dollars.



    That is definitely good niche for Russian hi-tech, countries who do not want to be dependent of West mood and blackmails...
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    Post  Project Canada on Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:27 pm



    Russia to allocate $2.5 bln to develop microelectronics industry — PM

    "Fairly huge amounts are allocated for these goals," Medvedev said. "Total financing of programs from the federal budget will be over 170 bln rubles ($2.5 bln), for the period from 2013 to 2025," he said.

    At the same time, the share of national electronics should grow 1.5 times on the national market and the share of export - by 3.5 times, Medvedev said.
    "Target figures are in place: the share of domestic radio electronics should grow 1.5 times on the domestic market, at least to 36% by 2025, while export should be up 3.5% times against the year of 2015, that is, by 350%," he added.
    Guaranteed government procurements of domestic microelectronics will amount to 75 bln rubles ($1.1 bln) by 2018 year-end.

    Export problems

    According to the premier, growth rate of the Russian microelectronics industry is about 10% per year but a problem with export exists.
    "The segment is developing fairly quickly at large; the annual growth rate is about 10%," the PM said. "However, problems are also in place: production is largely focused on domestic consumers for the time being," Medvedev added.

    The microelectronics segment determines the development area of industrial technologies for coming decades, the premier said. "Its development is of particular significance for the economy and for security provision," he said.
    Russian electronic products are largely focused on the domestic market but export should also be taken into consideration, Medvedev said.
    "Less than 25% of products are exported so far," he said. "The share of Russian products on the domestic market has not yet become material; it is 20%," he added

    http://tass.ru/en/economy/892237
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    Post  sepheronx on Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:40 pm

    The real number will be much higher. State run organizations spend a lot and thus contribute more but not accounted for as it may be considered private. $2.4B in 10 years cannot fund GaN modules, microprocessor development, micro controllers, and nearly anything else being built for military and civil use that we have been posting about. So I figure the real number may be double or triple that.
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    Post  kvs on Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:48 am

    http://www.sozvezdie.su/news/archive1/v_sozvezdii_sozdali_tranzistor_s/

    The Russian concern Sozvezdii has developed a very low distortion "linear" transistor. The press release is
    obscure but this video gives an idea of the problem being addressed:



    The new transistor stays in the linear regime of the simple linear amplifier circuit to a much higher degree
    than existing models. It will enable simpler and thus more compact designs of equipment for electronic
    warfare and civilian uses.

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    Post  Project Canada on Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:28 pm




    Russian made 'iPhone' to be released in 2018, price tag starting from $130

    MOSCOW, September 22. /TASS/. Russia plans to release smartphones that will be comparable with iPhone in terms of quality but cost much less than the original US device, head of Ruselectronics Igor Kozlov told reporters on Thursday.
    Ruselectronics will produce the Russian "iPhones’.
    "In 2018, we will have our own, domestic iPhone, which will cost only about $130," Kozlov said.
    The Ruselectronics holding company was set up in the early 2009 on the base of the state holding with the same name. It is part of the state-owned corporation Rostec.
    The holding unites enterprises specializing in the design and manufacture of electronic components, products, materials and equipment for their manufacture, as well as microwave devices and semiconductor devices.
    The company raises 15% of its revenues from civilian products and 85% from military products. Currently, Ruselectronics is in the process of restructuring and plans to strengthen its department for production of civilian products. By 2025, civilian products will account


    http://tass.com/economy/901600?_ga=1.102490433.15676205.1469362849

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    Post  Singular_trafo on Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:54 pm

    Russia has one, 4 years old 90nm semiconductor fab.
    That is quite busy to pump out thousand of low volume, high commplexity military/goverment/industrial dies, that blocked due to the sanctions.

    It won't have any capacity in the next years to update itself to lower node size, and to start to pump out high volume mobile phone ICs.


    And a 14nm top end fab cost a lot of money, and without that it is not possible to compete on this field.

    And the money won't stop at the fab, the chip design cost 300-700 milion $ for 14nm.


    So russia could make phone from imported parts, but that wonát be competitive compared to the korean phones.

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    Post  Singular_trafo on Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:56 pm

    Actualy the intel wonát go into the mobile field, it making high complexity, high cost ICs.

    Russia should make high complexity, low volume, high value added ICs, like satelite/nuclear industry radhard ICs, military stuff , telekom and other critical infrastructure components.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:05 am

    News on GaN transistor development:

    Roselectronika started to develop advanced types of transistors
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    Post  Singular_Transform on Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:53 pm

    franco wrote:Interfax 13:43
    Russian missile early warning spacecraft undergoing development flight tests

    Seems like they mastering the 90nm semiconductor fabs.
    Or Chinese components, who knows.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:05 pm

    They have their own. This has been already mentioned in the tech thread. Please review before making more statements.
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    Post  kvs on Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:48 am

    Singular_Transform wrote:Seems like they mastering the 90nm semiconductor fabs.
    Or Chinese components, who knows.

    Mikron has developed an in-house 65 nm process. 90 nm is old news.
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    Post  Singular_Transform on Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:35 am

    miketheterrible wrote:They have their own. This has been already mentioned in the tech thread. Please review before making more statements.

    We don't know.

    I think it is a mixture of both.

    I don't think anyone at the micron chasing any smaller pattern than 90nm for space apps and low volume ICs.

    By decreasing the size the cost of designing the chip for the manufacturing process exponentially increase, it next to nothing on 90nm, and 700 million $ on 11 nm.

    In the space the speed doesn't matter that much , the downstream bandwidth is the limitation.

    If they can manufacture all ICs on 90 nm then there can be the next step to smaller patterns.

    But anyway, there are informations about russian request to use CCDs on the open sky aircrafts, and now numerous information about new satellite projects.

    Means either they found a new source of radhard ICs, or the can manufacture them.

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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:16 am

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:They have their own. This has been already mentioned in the tech thread. Please review before making more statements.

    We don't know.

    I think it is a mixture of both.

    I don't think anyone at the micron chasing any smaller pattern than 90nm for space apps and low volume ICs.

    By decreasing the size the cost of designing the chip for the manufacturing process exponentially increase, it next to nothing on 90nm, and 700 million $ on 11 nm.

    In the space the speed doesn't matter that much , the downstream bandwidth is the limitation.

    If they can manufacture all ICs on 90 nm then there can be the next step to smaller patterns.

    But anyway, there are informations about russian request to use CCDs on the open sky aircrafts, and now numerous information about new satellite projects.

    Means either they found a new source of radhard ICs, or the can manufacture them.


    Read post again, and then go do your due diligence.
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    Post  Singular_Transform on Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:06 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:

    Read post again, and then go do your due diligence.

    ?
    There is no available data about Russian radhard components/capability.

    Few article from 2014 aboutthat russia wants to sell rd-180 to China for radhard electronics, few more about the installation of the 90nm fab, and one about export approval withdraw from a S company to ship machine for MRAM manufacturing to Russia .

    and now the news about new satellites.

    If you have any more data or Russian source please share it. Smile
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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:20 pm

    https://ria.ru/science/20160705/1458752482.html#ixzz4DWDtwgCS

    About selling spaced based electronics to India. The machines to make mean has been in Russia since 2013. As well, they already make 90nm tech at 300mm and 65nm at 200mm. Angstrom T makes it and has been making Elbrus 2C+ at the site for military purposes. Same with space based chips from elvees and Micran.
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    Post  Singular_Transform on Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:16 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:https://ria.ru/science/20160705/1458752482.html#ixzz4DWDtwgCS

    About selling spaced based electronics to India. The machines to make mean has been in Russia since 2013. As well, they already make 90nm tech at 300mm and 65nm at 200mm. Angstrom T makes it and has been making Elbrus 2C+ at the site for military purposes. Same with space based chips from elvees and Micran.

    The question is not the capability to make space grade ICs ( they always been able since su time) but to make 90nm high density sdrams ,nvrams , cpus , bus controllers and so on.
    There is little( 0 ) direct information about that .

    Remark : one space graded CPU cost around 10000$. So 1-20 $/pcs probably indicate simple logical circuits or analogue power controls and so on.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:50 pm

    You are aware that for a transistor to be used in radar systems need shielding. Elbrus 2C+ is shielded.

    Anyway, it isn't like I need to convince you, when you are perfectly capable of checking Rostec.ru and other sites. Even some members here posted the news about transistors an , alike made by Russia for space.

    Also. Check out elvees and mikran. Both make space base d IC. Angstrom T makes 90nm chips and is the one offering space based to India. I think you're smart enough to put two and two together. Wink
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    Post  kvs on Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:07 pm

    It's like with climate change deniers on this board. The same retarded tropes have to be debunked over and over. None of the
    "skeptics" does any actual research before coming here and pissing their ignorance.
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    Post  Singular_Transform on Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:48 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:You are aware that for a transistor to be used in radar systems need shielding. Elbrus 2C+ is shielded.

    Anyway, it isn't like I need to convince you, when you are perfectly capable of checking Rostec.ru and other sites. Even some members here posted the news about transistors an , alike made by Russia for space.

    Also. Check out elvees and mikran. Both make space base d IC. Angstrom T makes 90nm chips and is the one offering space based to India. I think you're smart enough to put two and two together. Wink

    You can't make effective shielding.
    To have the similar lifetime like a radhard ic you need 10 cm of lead.At least.

    there is same info about 180nm radhard russian components here:
    http://zeptobars.com/en/read/open-microchip-asic-what-inside-II-msp430-pic-z80

    But seems like the investment that Ru started after the georgian war getting close to make results, if they can make satelites.

    Prior of 2014 75% of tge radhard electronics in satelites come from us/eu.

    That was the reason why they bined the glonass k2.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLONASS-K2

    So, if russia planning new military satelites THEN they must be comfortable with availability of radhard high speed components.
    Either from china or from domestic sources.

    But there is no info about MRAM , or the new 90nm plants.
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    Post  Rmf on Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:06 am

    for space you dont want transistors so close anyway 90 nm is fine size limit , also voltages are lower ,and there is lots of overvoltage protection inside and errorcheck software +  redundancy. for conventional chips you have to use hermeticaly sealed climate controlled containers
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    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:33 am

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:You are aware that for a transistor to be used in radar systems need shielding. Elbrus 2C+ is shielded.

    Anyway, it isn't like I need to convince you, when you are perfectly capable of checking Rostec.ru and other sites. Even some members here posted the news about transistors an , alike made by Russia for space.

    Also. Check out elvees and mikran. Both make space base d IC. Angstrom T makes 90nm chips and is the one offering space based to India. I think you're smart enough to put two and two together. Wink

    You can't make effective shielding.
    To have the similar lifetime like a radhard ic you need 10 cm of lead.At least.

    there is same info about 180nm radhard russian components here:
    http://zeptobars.com/en/read/open-microchip-asic-what-inside-II-msp430-pic-z80

    But seems like the investment that Ru started after the georgian war getting close to make results, if they can make satelites.

    Prior of 2014 75% of tge radhard electronics in satelites come from us/eu.

    That was the reason why they bined the glonass k2.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLONASS-K2

    So, if russia planning new military satelites THEN they  must be comfortable with availability of radhard high speed components.
    Either from china or from domestic sources.

    But there is no info about MRAM , or the new 90nm plants.

    You are not going to find much on it because you can't find much on anything Russian material related in any kind of industry, especially when using joogle. For instance, I learned a lot from just using other Russian sites that use videos from tv programs that talked about it. Not long ago they did one on Angstrom T and their productions. Just an example.

    I cant name a Russian toothpaste brand but I did find some when I was at a Russian store in Canada here. Yet I cant find it when trying to look it up.

    Piece of advice: Russian's are not well known for marketing. Something they really need to work on.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:48 am

    Found what you were looking for:

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/55477/

    although, topology in 180nm rather than 90nm.  As for 90nm production:

    http://www.angstrem.ru/manufacture/centr-mikroelektroniki
    http://www.angstrem-t.com/technology/90/

    elvees multicore:
    http://multicore.ru
    http://multicore.ru/index.php?id=1360&utm_source=b1288pl1u&utm_medium=top&utm_campaign=banner

    Module
    http://www.module.ru/catalog/space/
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    Post  Singular_Transform on Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:57 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Found what you were looking for:

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/55477/

    although, topology in 180nm rather than 90nm.  As for 90nm production:

    http://www.angstrem.ru/manufacture/centr-mikroelektroniki
    http://www.angstrem-t.com/technology/90/

    elvees multicore:
    http://multicore.ru
    http://multicore.ru/index.php?id=1360&utm_source=b1288pl1u&utm_medium=top&utm_campaign=banner

    Module
    http://www.module.ru/catalog/space/

    This is old stuff.

    Seems like it is good for nuclear warheads / simple satelite control systems.

    The interesting is radhard big CCDs,high speed CCD interfaces, memorys,NVrams, flahs rams, poer transistors and high speed commuiaction circuits.


    For example an early warning sateliet they need radhard cooled infra red sensors, high speed data and radio circuits, from the new 90/65nm plant.

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    Post  Singular_Transform on Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:19 pm

    It is a bit interesting.

    I think they work like madman in the new fabs since 2014 to make and test new radhard dies for satelites.
    Question is how far they are now.
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    Post  kvs on Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:08 am

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:Found what you were looking for:

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/55477/

    although, topology in 180nm rather than 90nm.  As for 90nm production:

    http://www.angstrem.ru/manufacture/centr-mikroelektroniki
    http://www.angstrem-t.com/technology/90/

    elvees multicore:
    http://multicore.ru
    http://multicore.ru/index.php?id=1360&utm_source=b1288pl1u&utm_medium=top&utm_campaign=banner

    Module
    http://www.module.ru/catalog/space/

    This is old stuff.

    Seems like it is good for nuclear warheads / simple satelite control systems.

    The interesting is radhard big CCDs,high speed CCD interfaces, memorys,NVrams, flahs rams, poer transistors and high speed commuiaction circuits.


    For example an early warning sateliet they need radhard cooled infra red sensors, high speed data and radio circuits, from the new 90/65nm plant.


    I was involved with occultation instrument development in Canada. Please don't prance around making it like Russia cannot
    design CCDs for space based systems and yapping about "old" stuff. It is physically impossible to rad harden dense IC components.
    All that one can hope for is noise post processing. At least with RAM one can build in some bit error control. With a CCD you cannot
    remove the noise in hardware.

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