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    Post  Hole on Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:38 pm

    Sure, but except the high north there are a lot of choke points around the russian coasts. That´s why they are building subs as carriers. But some ships (Kovalew, Alexandrov, Elbrus) could also be used, just like any freighter with cranes. Like this one:

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    You could fit quite a few Poseidons in there. And it would be a nightmare for the west to keep every "civilian" russian ship in sight.
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    Post  Hole on Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:56 pm

    Also new in the Black Sea Fleet.

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    Post  GarryB on Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:25 am

    You could fit quite a few Poseidons in there. And it would be a nightmare for the west to keep every "civilian" russian ship in sight.

    Actually I would think a roll on roll off type vessel would be much better suited to the role of carrying and releasing Poseidons... and during their down time they could be used for other roles....
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    Post  Hole on Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:52 am

    First 03182 launched.

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    Post  miroslav on Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:03 pm

    Hole wrote:First 03182 launched.

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    This is supposed to be the 2nd ship of the project laid down (russian-ships.info), chronologically, that is. I guess that the Volga shipyard in Nizhniy Novgorod is simply faster or less under pressure by other projects.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:40 pm


    New version of Project 21300 (Igor Belousov class) vessel designed, looks like they added a deck or two

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/115408/#cut

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    Post  GarryB on Wed Dec 26, 2018 2:37 am

    Helicopters make most ships more capable and flexible.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:18 pm


    Upgraded Molonya-class (Project 12418) under construction in Vyborg

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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:45 pm


    Akademik Aleksandrov on trials:
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    Post  George1 on Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:45 am

    Nine new hydrographic vessels to be built for Russian Navy by 2021

    The Navy will get the first of them in 2019


    MOSCOW, January 2. /TASS/. Two small Project 19910 vessels, two large Project 23040G hydrographic boats, two newest large Project 19920 hydrographic boats and three large Project 23370G large hydrographic boats will be built for the Russian Navy before 2021, the Russian Defense Ministry’s press service said on Wednesday.

    "The construction of two small Project 19910 hydrographic vessels is currently underway," the ministry said, adding that they would become part of the Russian Navy in 2019 and 2020 respectively.

    In addition, the Nizhegorodsky Teplokhod shipyard is working on two large Project 23040G hydrographic boats. The shipyard earlier completed the construction of two similar vessels for the Baltic Fleet. The Navy will get the new ships in 2019.

    Meanwhile, two large Project 19920 hydrographic boats for the Northern and Pacific Fleets are now under construction. It is also planned to build three large Project 23370G hydrographic boats by 2021, the Defense Ministry said.


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    Post  hoom on Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:13 am

    Apparently there is an effort to try to standardise several Auxiliary types into a modular format using the same basic hull, different superstructures https://flotprom.ru/2019/%D0%9E%D1%81%D0%BA3/
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    Post  Hole on Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:48 pm

    What do we have here?

    From left to right:
    - container ship/freighter
    - fleet oiler/replenishment ship
    - oceanographic survey or submarine rescue ship?
    - heavy-lift ship

    Seems to be an expansion of the Zvezdotchka/Akademik Kovalev line.

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    Post  Isos on Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:58 pm

    Those helipads are perfect for the modular Tor that was tested on Grigorovitch.
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    Post  Hole on Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:52 pm

    Why waste the helipad? Look at the foreship. Cool
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    Post  Isos on Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:11 pm

    Hole wrote:Why waste the helipad? Look at the foreship. Cool

    The helipad allows a 360° radar coverage.

    On the forship you can install a s-300V4 launcher with the radar on the same chassis Very Happy
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    Post  hoom on Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:30 am

    Akademik Alexandrov completed ice tests
    https://flotprom.ru/2019/%D0%97%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%B02/
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    Planning to enter service end of July.

    I find this kinda interesting https://flotprom.ru/2019/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B032/
    Concept to make a modular multi-role container boat based on project 02690 floating crane pontoon.
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    Among his tasks are the maintenance of repairs, the placement of a hospital or a ship control station; placement of personnel, power plants, etc.
    Like a giant version of Project 23370
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    All those containers had me thinking it could potentially be the basis for the long prophesied 'barge of Kalibrs' for the river-canal system but at 22m wide its too big (canal max 16.6m)
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    Post  Hole on Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:40 am

    You can use the Pr. 02690 in open water. At least by fair weather.

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    Post  d_taddei2 on Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:19 am

    the Kommuna believed to be the oldest ship still in military service. originally a salvage ship and technically it can still do the job but its mostly used for carrying a submersible rescue sub. it started off life in russian imperial navy, then soviet and currently in service with Russian navy.
    info as follows:
    Laid down:12 November 1912
    Launched: 17 November 1913
    Commissioned: 14 July 1915

    currently based in sevastopol the last time i was there i was hoping to see it but i was speaking to a local man who knew about the ship said it had left the dock a couple of days ago. I was reading an article and they were interviewing the captain of the ship which was going through a refit/upgrade and the reporter asked him why Russia was still using such an old ship, to which he replied its simple really its still has a use, and whats the point in designing and building another ship and spending millions of dollars when this does the job you want it to do. I say hats off to Russian engineering. cheers Very Happy

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_salvage_ship_Kommuna#/media/File:Kommuna_rescue_ship_2008_G2.jpg

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    Post  GarryB on Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:04 am

    I have read about this ship before, but never seen a decent photo of it... what an odd and rather cool looking ship...


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    Post  d_taddei2 on Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:17 am

    GarryB wrote:I have read about this ship before, but never seen a decent photo of it... what an odd and rather cool looking ship...


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    yes odd indeed, and and looking at it its quite hard to believe its over 100 years old. (107/106/104yrs this year depending what date you go by)

    interesting history though. it survived both world wars, its been looted, continued to operate despite damaged by bombs during siege of leningrad, its lifted subs, boats, aircraft, tanks, vehicles, and even raised a british sub which sat at the bottom of the sea for 9 years, it was later used by the soviets  after 3 years of repairs/testing it was used in soviet service for 22yrs loooool. cheers  its even serviced british E and C type subs. its still takes part in exercises.

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    Post  Hole on Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:25 am

    It also sunk one or two times (WWI and WWII).
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    Post  d_taddei2 on Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:54 am

    Hole wrote:It also sunk one or two times (WWI and WWII).


    do you have a link to this information?

    i have only read that it suffered light damage in the siege of leningrad but continued to operate. havent seen anything to state that its been sunk once or twice. The old guy i was talking to in sevastopol a few years knew a lot about the ship he was ex-soviet navy but worked on a sub. I asked him had it ever crashed, sunk or major damage in its life he replied no.  but he seemed to know a lot and had friends who served on it. he called it the unsung hero of the russian/soviet navy due to length of service, he said that the ship deserves to have a yearly celebration nd he hopes when it does finally retire that it isnt scrapped that its preserved somewhere, he was in his late 60's i still have his e-mail address he's called yuriy mishin
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    Post  hoom on Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:13 pm

    Yep extremely odd ship, variously rumored to be a modern Ship of Theseus; basically a big chunk of floating rust & patches on patches on patches, or made out of some accidental super-alloy with another hundred years in it depending on who you believe.

    I like that they keep it around, since 2016 is equipped with an '80s (but upgraded in '09) Priz class mini-sub & Panther Plus ROV.
    From recollection has no decompression chamber though.
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    Post  Hole on Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:27 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:
    Hole wrote:It also sunk one or two times (WWI and WWII).


    do you have a link to this information?

    i have only read that it suffered light damage in the siege of leningrad but continued to operate. havent seen anything to state that its been sunk once or twice. The old guy i was talking to in sevastopol a few years knew a lot about the ship he was ex-soviet navy but worked on a sub. I asked him had it ever crashed, sunk or major damage in its life he replied no.  but he seemed to know a lot and had friends who served on it. he called it the unsung hero of the russian/soviet navy due to length of service, he said that the ship deserves to have a yearly celebration nd he hopes when it does finally retire that it isnt scrapped that its preserved somewhere, he was in his late 60's i still have his e-mail address he's called yuriy mishin

    No, it didn´t sink. Was only damaged by bombs in WWII.
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