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    Re: Auxilliary vessels, Special-purpose and minor naval ships

    Post  George1 on Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:30 am

    In 2019, Russian Navy will receive two new 19910-project hydrographic vessels

    In 2019, the Navy will receive two newest Project 19910 hydrographic vessels with increased sailing autonomy and an enhanced ice type, said Captain I Rank Sergei Travin, Chief of the Navigation and Oceanography Administration of the Russian Defence Ministry at the practical conference dedicated to the 220th anniversary of the birth of Admiral Fyodor Litke, which was held at the Central Naval Museum in St. Petersburg.

    According to Captain I Rank Sergei Travin, one of the Project 19910 hydrographic vessels is being built at the shipyard Vympel in the city of Rybinsk and through the Russian Navy C-in-C’s she has been assigned the name Nikolay Skosyrev, and the second vessel – Aleksandr Rogotsky – is being constructed on the stocks of the Blagoveshchensk Shipbuilding Plant. All the works are going according to the schedule and under the control of the Navy's High Command.

    "These vessels will meet the highest requirements for hydrographic vessels. They will have increased autonomy of sailing and will be able to take on board increased numbers of military hydrographs, what, of course, will allow hydrographic expeditions to be carried out at a new level of efficiency," said the Chief of the Navigation and Oceanography Directorate of the Russian Defence Ministry,

    He also stressed that 19910-project hydrographic vessels are to be armed with the most modern equipment for hydrographic studies of sea areas.

    "These two vessels are built taking into account proposals and recommendations based on the experience of testing and operation of the previous vessels of this project - the head and the first serial ones. They will be even more perfect for a number of opportunities," said Captain I Rank Sergei Travin.

    Project 19910 hydrographic vessels are designed for servicing navigation equipment, delivering cargo to unequipped coasts, performing research with a multi-beam sonic depth finder. They will have a strengthened ice type and will also be able to work not only in deep sea conditions, but also in shallow waters.

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    Post  Isos on Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:12 pm

    Don't russia have every information about seas and ocean thanks to USSR ? Why build hydrographic vessels ?
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:44 am

    Currents change... sand bars shift... you need to keep it all up to date or it becomes useless.


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    Post  George1 on Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:27 pm

    Sept img of the 2nd Pr.18280 intelligence collection ship Ivan Khurs at Severnaya Verf. Scheduled completion: Nov'17





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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:47 pm

    Isos wrote:Don't russia have every information about seas and ocean thanks to USSR ? Why build hydrographic vessels ?

    Ocean changes so much information you had 3 months ago is outdated pretty much
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    Post  Isos on Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:22 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    Isos wrote:Don't russia have every information about seas and ocean thanks to USSR ? Why build hydrographic vessels ?

    Ocean changes so much information you had 3 months ago is outdated pretty much

    Can you develop what those ships are analizing and what instruments/tools they use ?? I've never looked for those informations actually idk anything about it. I suppose they want information principaly for their subs so they don't get surprised by currents like garry said.
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    Re: Auxilliary vessels, Special-purpose and minor naval ships

    Post  GarryB on Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:36 am

    Having accurate maps is critical in war... doubly so underwater when most of the time you can't see where you are going.

    Finding places to hide, finding potential hiding places the enemy might use, or just the safe navigation through an area...

    Satellites can use radar to map many areas but close in mapping with ships takes longer but gives more accurate information.

    They can also be used for other things like sampling water and accurate deep penetration radar to detect the structure of the ground under the water, or finding lost objects on the marine floor.

    They can also locate cables etc...


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    Post  franco on Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:10 pm

    George1 wrote:

    An icebreaker, tow ship, buoy layer, hydro-graphic and research vessel... the new Russian Navy thumbsup
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    Looks like those two unfinished Soviet Tarantul class boats that Vympel is working on now will be getting bit more radical redesign than originally expected:

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:21 pm


    Looks like those two unfinished Soviet Tarantul class boats that Vympel is working on now will be getting bit more radical redesign than originally expected:

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/95277/





    Originally the were supposed to be converted into Molonya class boats like these:



    Clearly they are doing something different with them. Internal space will be enlarged, Uran launchers will be moved to the middle and will be 2X4 instead of 4x4.

    Only low-rez pic available:

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    Post  George1 on Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:50 pm

    One more (3rd?) Pr.03160 Raptor high-speed assault/patrol boat handed over to the Baltic Fleet:

    http://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12145540@egNews


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    Post  George1 on Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:26 pm

    The question of the construction of the Voyevoda support vessel of project 23700

    According to the St. Petersburg publication of the newspaper Kommersant in an article by Herman Kostrinsky, "USC cuts the Voyevoda." The hull of the ship can partially build St. Petersburg shipyards, "part of the hull work on the Voyevoda ship of Project 23700 The United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) may entrust St. Petersburg enterprises - Northern shipyard and Baltic plant. The reason, according to the representatives of the corporation, lies in the high loading of the hull production of the Kaliningrad "Yantar", which builds this vessel at the request of the Ministry of Industry and Trade. The construction order is placed by the Ministry of Industry and Trade, but neither the price of the contract nor the operator of the ship is known. The interlocutors of Kommersant hint at his "special" purpose.

    According to Kommersant's information, part of the corps of the auxiliary vessel Voyevoda of project 23700 can be built in St. Petersburg. Today, at the Yantar plant, which fulfills the order of the Ministry of Industry and Trade for the construction of a product, consider the option that part of the hull works will be transferred to the Baltic plant and the Northern shipyard. After the construction of the hull will be transferred to Kaliningrad on floating pontoons, the interlocutor of "Kommersant" told.

    As Kommersant was told at the Yantar factory, a concrete decision on this issue has not yet been made: a variant with the construction of a part of the hull at the St. Petersburg shipyards is being considered among others. The reason why part of the hull work can be transferred to the Baltic plant and the Northern shipyard was the high loading of the hull production of "Yantar". Today, the Kaliningrad plant forms the hulls of three SK-3101R trawlers (built for the Kamchatka Fishing Collective Farm named after Lenin), the oceanographic research vessel Almaz (built for the Main Directorate of Deepwater Research of the Ministry of Defense - GIHI). At the stage of saturation of the hull is the second large amphibious ship Project 11711 "Peter Morgunov" (built for the Navy).

    The USC also confirmed the information. "Currently, USC is implementing a" distributed shipyard "project involving almost all shipbuilding plants in the western region.As for the project vessel 23700, the involvement of PJSC SZ" Severnaya Verf "and LLC" Baltiysky Zavod - Shipbuilding "is associated exclusively with the loading of production capacities of the Yantar plant, "the corporation said.

    The manufacture of parts of the sections of the corps "Voevody" in St. Petersburg and their subsequent delivery to Kaliningrad are planned by the corporation for the second quarter of 2018. Petersburg factories will perform only hull work: saturation of sections with equipment will remain for "Yantar". "Other shipbuilding plants entering the perimeter of USC, it is not planned to attract work to this ship," the corporation said.

    Kommersant's interlocutors in the shipbuilding industry note that cooperation in assembling ships and ships is used all over the world. So, in the UK three shipyards participated in the construction of the aircraft carrier. In Russia, such examples also exist: the Baltic plant several years ago assembled half of the Mistral corps before it was sent to France. In addition, the argument for placing the hull parts at the Baltic Shipyard and the Northern Shipyard is the weak loading of the hull production at these St. Petersburg shipyards.

    The auxiliary vessel Voevoda was laid in Kaliningrad in the spring of 2017. Even then the interlocutors of Kommersant expressed doubt that the ship would be emergency and rescue, as they say at Yantar. Assumptions ranged from a "special dual-purpose ship" to "a yacht for VIPs" (see "Kommersant" dated 11.04.2017).

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    Re: Auxilliary vessels, Special-purpose and minor naval ships

    Post  George1 on Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:33 am

    New boat type "Raptor"

    October 7, 2017 JSC "Leningrad Shipyard Pella" (Otradnoe, Leningrad region) reported the signing of the act of acceptance and transfer to the customer (Russian Navy) of the next "patrol boat" project 03160 (code "Raptor") with the building number 712, the composition of the Baltic Fleet is presumably P-345. The launch was launched on 30 May, the acceptance certificate was signed on 29 September.



    This is the first boat of the project 03160, built by the Pella plant in 2017, and the fourth, built under the contract for the construction of eight boats of this type, concluded with the Russian Defense Ministry in May 2016. Earlier, two boats for this contract P-415 and P-425 (building numbers 709 and 711) were launched at Pella in December 2016 and became part of the Black Sea Fleet on May 8, 2017, and another P-342 "Unarmeets" Baltika "(building number 710), launched on December 14, 2016, was transferred to the Baltic Fleet.

    August 24, 2017 at the factory "Pella" was launched the next boat of this type with the building number 713, planned to be entered into the Caspian Flotilla.

    Earlier, under the previous contract in 2014, the Pella plant passed to the Ministry of Defense of Russia eight project 03160 vessels during 2015 - four planned for the 2014 program, and four for the 2015 program. Of these boats, seven (building numbers from 701 to 705 and from 707 to 708) are officially listed as part of the Russian Navy counter-sabotage boats. In fact, according to known data, these boats are used in fleets as part of naval reconnaissance points for special purposes. Of these, two boats (P-280 and P-281, the corresponding building numbers 705 and 704) are part of the Baltic Fleet, based on Kronstadt, and the remaining five (P-274, P-275, P-276, P-838, P-845) - are part of the Black Sea Fleet, based on Novorossiysk and Sevastopol.

    Another cutter of project 03160 P-344 with building number 706, commissioned in August 2015, was built in the form of a communications boat - in fact, as a traveling boat for VIP transport. Formally considered to be part of the Baltic Fleet, the P-344 boat is constantly moored at the DBR-481 berthing berth complex-project 02590 of the National Defense Management Center of the Russian Federation on the Frunzenskaya embankment of the Moskva River, and, apparently, is used as a personal cutter of the Minister of Defense Russia.
    The head boat (prototype) of the RM-15 project 03160 Raptor, designed and built by Pella on the instructions of the Russian Navy, was launched at the enterprise on August 15, 2013 and handed over to the Navy in 2014, and is now being used as part of the Black Sea Fleet. Thus, "Pella" has surrendered in total 13 already boats project 03160.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2893028.html


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    Post  George1 on Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:03 pm

    1 more Pr.03160 Raptor high-speed assault/patrol boat handed over to the Baltic Fleet. To be docked at Baltiysk.

    http://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12148922@egNews


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    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:12 am

    George1 wrote:Promo video of Pr.02800 low profile fast assault craft by Zavod Ferrumland. First demonstrated at IMDS-2017.


    A longish 37 min video on the Pr 02800....what's interesting is that the Navy plans for these boats to be caried by mother ships (corvettes) see video at about 02.30 onwards

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    Post  George1 on Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:36 pm

    2nd Pr.18280 Russian intelligence gathering ship Ivan Khurs is towed out of its dock at Severnaya Verf. Its technology readiness stands at 99% at present according to the Severnaya Verf press release:
    http://www.nordsy.spb.ru/pressroom/16886/





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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:19 pm


    Good news finally, naval icebreaker Ilya Muromets has been delivered to Navy. At least some ships are built on time. thumbsup

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    Ro-RO ships during the soviet ERa

    Post  nastle77 on Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:18 pm

    During the 80s did the soviet merchant marine have any ro ro cargo ships ?
    could they be used to transport heavy ground equipment like MBT, SP guns, mobile SAMs etc
    was this ever considered during the soviet era ?

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    Post  wilhelm on Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:17 am

    nastle77 wrote:During the 80s did the soviet merchant marine have any ro ro cargo ships ?
    could they be used to transport heavy ground equipment like MBT, SP guns, mobile SAMs etc
    was this ever considered during the soviet era ?

    Yes, they operated quite a few, of which the Ivan Skuridin class (27 000t DWT) built in Zhdanov comes to mind as the first Soviet built Ro Ro ships I think, but I speak under correction.
    They also operated quite a few other Soviet, Finnish, Polish, or East German built Ro Ro vessels.
    For example, my copy of Janes 86-87 includes the 4 Kapitan Smirnov class built in Nikolayev, which were 230m long gas turbine powered Ro Ro vessels.
    Janes seems to intimate about 60 plus Ro Ro vessels at that time.
     Another example:
    http://shipsmonthly.com/news/roll-on-roll-off-scrapping-of-russian-ro-ros-accelerates/

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    Post  nastle77 on Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:56 pm

    wilhelm wrote:
    nastle77 wrote:During the 80s did the soviet merchant marine have any ro ro cargo ships ?
    could they be used to transport heavy ground equipment like MBT, SP guns, mobile SAMs etc
    was this ever considered during the soviet era ?

    Yes, they operated quite a few, of which the Ivan Skuridin class (27 000t DWT) built in Zhdanov comes to mind as the first Soviet built Ro Ro ships I think, but I speak under correction.
    They also operated quite a few other Soviet, Finnish, Polish, or East German built Ro Ro vessels.
    For example, my copy of Janes 86-87 includes the 4 Kapitan Smirnov class built in Nikolayev, which were 230m long gas turbine powered Ro Ro vessels.
    Janes seems to intimate about 60 plus Ro Ro vessels at that time.
     Another example:
    http://shipsmonthly.com/news/roll-on-roll-off-scrapping-of-russian-ro-ros-accelerates/
    Thank you so much for your help
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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:11 pm


    'Ilmen' launched in Pella. I got no idea what this one is for, spy ship maybe?

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/101244/


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    Post  franco on Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:43 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    'Ilmen' launched in Pella. I got no idea what this one is for, spy ship maybe?

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/101244/



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    Post  George1 on Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:17 am

    Oceanographic vessel. The vessel is to join the Black Sea Fleet following the fitting-out and sea trials.


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    Post  George1 on Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:59 pm

    For the Russian Navy, two Manul-type air-cushion boats of Project 23321

    According to the St. Petersburg publication of the newspaper Kommersant in an article by Herman Kostrinsky "On patrol icebreakers will install" Manuly. "Central Neptun will build two hovercraft for the Ministry of Defense," the patrol icebreakers of project 23350, ordered at the Admiralty shipyards, will be manned by the courts on the air cushion (SVP) "Manul" project 23321. Boats at a price of 111.22 million rubles for the product will be built by the Central Design Bureau "Neptune", since the Soviet times designing SVP for various purposes. "Manuls" are developed on the basis of SVP "Pardus", supplied by the design bureau to the Ministry of Defense.



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    Post  GarryB on Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:46 am

    Would be a useful small vessel that could travel over ice and sea to get to vessels in trouble to offload people or items in tricky situations.


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