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    ATLASCUB

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    Re: Su-30SM for VMF

    Post  ATLASCUB on Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:37 pm

    Isos wrote:
    ATLASCUB wrote:Love the paint scheme. Looks more "professional". Air force scheme is yuck!

    Won't be long before these beauties start making the press buzzing American destroyers. Su-24s don't give anyone shivers, no offense. Now this shark....perfect for shock effect - the press will love it as well.

    There were pictures of US su-27 dogfighting a F-16 over the US desert, the F-16 was hard to see while the Su-27 was like a sun visible at very long distances. Their paint must really change and fast. The grey paint of the Rafale is the best IMO.

    Pretty sure those Su-27s have been repainted multiple times - highly likely in the U.S as well.
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    Re: Su-30SM for VMF

    Post  medo on Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:23 pm

    George1 wrote:
    MOSCOW, April 12. / TASS /. Two multi-purpose Su-30SM fighters will be transferred to the Naval Aviation of the Russian Navy in April. This was announced by Igor Dygalo, the representative of the Department of Information and Mass Communications of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for the Navy.

    "In the last decade of April, two multipurpose Su-30SM fighters will be transferred to the Naval Aviation Navy as part of the rearmament of the assault aviation units and units." The ceremony will take place at the Irkutsk Aircraft Plant airfield, "said Dygalo.

    It is planned that by the state contract till the end of 2017 three more Su-30SM aircraft will be transferred to the Naval Aviation of the Navy.

    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4175198

    So 5 in total Su-30SMs for the Navy in 2017. Mark the number franco!

    So this mean 22 Su-30SM in 2017. 17 for VKS and 5 for NAVY.
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    Re: Su-30SM for VMF

    Post  franco on Sun May 28, 2017 2:12 pm

    First two Su-30SM's for the Navy this year;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2632515.html

    According to the article this makes 17 out of 28 delivered with 3 more scheduled for this year. Leaves 8 going into 2018.
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    Re: Su-30SM for VMF

    Post  George1 on Sun May 28, 2017 5:15 pm

    franco wrote:First two Su-30SM's for the Navy this year;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2632515.html

    According to the article this makes 17 out of 28 delivered with 3 more scheduled for this year. Leaves 8 going into 2018.

    These 17 are assigned:

    • 12 to the 43rd separate sea assault aviation regiment of the aviation of the Black Sea Fleet in Saki (Crimea)


    • 3 to the 72nd aviation base of the Baltic Fleet aviation at the Chernyakhovsk airfield (Kaliningrad region)


    • 2 to the  279th separate naval fighter air regiment of the Northern fleet, at the Severomorsk-3 airfield


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    Re: Su-30SM for VMF

    Post  franco on Sun May 28, 2017 6:47 pm

    Check your math Smile

    Beginning to look like the 28 may be assigned like this;

    12 - Saki
    12 - Chernyakhovsk
    4 - Severomorsk-3 (flying with the remaining Su-33)
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    Re: Su-30SM for VMF

    Post  medo on Sun May 28, 2017 7:51 pm

    I think NAVY will order more Su-30SM. They also need them in Pacific fleet and most probably they will equip full squadron of Su-30SM in Northern fleet.
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    Re: Su-30SM for VMF

    Post  George1 on Sun May 28, 2017 11:07 pm

    franco wrote:Check your math Smile

    Beginning to look like the 28 may be assigned like this;

    12 - Saki
    12 - Chernyakhovsk
    4 - Severomorsk-3 (flying with the remaining Su-33)

    Yes you are right. I fixed it. These 4 in Severomorsk whats their role actually there?


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    Re: Su-30SM for VMF

    Post  franco on Mon May 29, 2017 12:49 am

    George1 wrote:
    franco wrote:Check your math Smile

    Beginning to look like the 28 may be assigned like this;

    12 - Saki
    12 - Chernyakhovsk
    4 - Severomorsk-3 (flying with the remaining Su-33)

    Yes you are right. I fixed it. These 4 in Severomorsk whats their role actually there?

    1. They are 2-seaters so some training.
    2. With the remaining Su-33 gives a northern Naval Aviation Attack unit.
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    Re: Su-30SM for VMF

    Post  George1 on Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:32 am

    3 more to Naval Aviation. 20 in total.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2802399.html


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    Re: Su-30SM for VMF

    Post  AMCXXL on Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:30 pm

    franco wrote:
    George1 wrote:
    franco wrote:Check your math Smile

    Beginning to look like the 28 may be assigned like this;

    12 - Saki
    12 - Chernyakhovsk
    4 - Severomorsk-3 (flying with the remaining Su-33)

    Yes you are right. I fixed it. These 4 in Severomorsk whats their role actually there?

    1. They are 2-seaters so some training.
    2. With the remaining Su-33 gives a northern Naval Aviation Attack unit.  

    The attack units in North District are the two squadrons of Su-24M/MR of 98 SAP in Monchegorsk , under the command of North Fleet


    Also the MiG-29K gives the North Fleet task force some attack ability as is a multirole figther (FGA)
    The main role of Su-33 ( Su-27K ) shipborne fighter is to defend the North Fleet task force , and also , as Su-33 is the only "Flanker" in North District at now , have the same misión of the other "Flankers" of other Military Districts as air superiority fighter ,when they are not on board the Kuznetsov
    The Naval strike/ground attack capacity of Su-33 is very low ,in spite of which it has been tested in Syria

    The 279 KIAP have several Su-25UTG as trainers for take off/landing from Kuznestov and from the"sky jump" at NIKTA (Saki-Crimea)
    Also , this regiment have a couple of Su-27UB , nº 20 and nº21 , as well it seems are only using the Nº20


    About the 2 Su-30SM sent to 279 KIAP , bmpd sais that:
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2351574.html
    These aircraft became the first Su-30SM, received in the aviation of the Northern Fleet. At the beginning of December 2016 the Izvestia newspaper reported that the third squadron on the Su-30SM aircraft would be established at the 279th Aviation Regiment at Severomorsk-3. On the basis of this squadron, in the future, as new SU-30SM machines arrive, it is planned to form a new separate aviation regiment.

    The Su-30SM is replacing all the Su-24M/MR in the role of Naval strike/ground attack
    It seems that after complete the squadrons of Saki and Kaliningrad , the third could be this, placed temporally in Severomorsk as 3rd squadron of 279ºKIAP

    The planing is to have 4 squadrons in 2020 (48), probably the fourth sqdn. in Yelizovo
    Later, in years 2021-2025 other 4 squadrons will be raised for complete 4 regiments
    Then , the 24 Su-30SM of North fleet , will replace the SU-24M/MR of Monchegorsk, forming a new regiment in a different location. Severomorsk-3 is the naval airbase of shipborne airplanes.


    medo wrote:I think NAVY will order more Su-30SM. They also need them in Pacific fleet and most probably they will equip full squadron of Su-30SM in Northern fleet.

    Both  , Navy and VKS will order more planes in the SAP 2018-2025
    The first planing was 2016-2020 , but was cutted to 2016-2028 for the problems with Ukraine , sanctions, economic crisis , and of course the presidential election of next spring in Russia
    Is for that they only contracted 36 Su-30SM (28+8 ) instead the 70-75 announced for get until 2020
    I think when the elections are over, we all know who will win, a new state armament plan will be announced for period until 2025

    Navy will need to get 10 Su-30SM each year for complete 4 regiments in 2020 , as well the number need for VKS is lower, about 8 planes per year in period 2018-2025 , then 18 airplanes each year is a reasonable ammount

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    How odd, wouldn't the SU-34 be the proper replacement, i get that the SU-30SM is a good all-rounder, but does it have the much vaunted SVP-24 targeting system??

    No , Su-34 is a tactical bomber  , as well could be used in the Navy
    The Su-30SM in the Navy has the role of Naval Strke (anti-ship). ALso is multirole can be used as fighter for protect the coast of penínsulas like Kola , Kamchatka , Crimea and the exclave of Kaliningrad,
    The navy need this more than a specialized and heavy airplane , given that Navy has far fewer aircraft than VKS
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    Re: Su-30SM for VMF

    Post  ZoA on Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:31 pm

    AMCXXL if you don't mind me asking if you have any information what kind of anti ship missiles are usable from Su-30SM, and what kind are usable on old Su-24M/MR?

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