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    Unid aircraft attacking in Libya

    Post  short_fuze on Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:47 am

    BMPD has a report about a couple of supposed Libyan airforce Mig-23MPD attacking caliphate targets. There are reports that they flew from French territory, denied by the French. The aircraft and possibly some weapons appear to have been refurbished by Ukrainians. The yandex translation is a little confusing. Some of the text seems to suggest ISIS was involved in the attacks.

    Can anyone provide an accurate translation?

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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  Vladimir79 on Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:26 pm

    sheytanelkebir wrote:libya is the real battleground now. ISIS is focusing heavily here and this is their "breakout" region to grow their empire in.

    whilst all eyes are on their decrepit, poor, landlocked regions in syria and shrinking base in iraq... isis are building up Libya, yemen somalia and other maritime connected regions with oil and other wealth as well as a more ammeable populace to build their empire in.

    I don't think it will be so easy for them to conquer Libya, at least the LNA is willing to fight back unlike the cowards in Iraq. Assad stuck it out and he is still kicking with all major players supporting the least of the evils.


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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:59 pm

    short_fuze wrote:BMPD has a report about a couple of supposed Libyan airforce Mig-23MPD attacking caliphate targets. There are reports that they flew from French territory, denied by the French. The aircraft and possibly some weapons appear to have been refurbished by Ukrainians. The yandex translation is a little confusing. Some of the text seems to suggest ISIS was involved in the attacks.

    Can anyone provide an accurate translation?

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    https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/bmpd.livejournal.com/1676270.html

    Original

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/1676270.html

    In Engrrish...

    http://aerohisto.blogspot.fr/

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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  George1 on Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:47 pm

    US Must Help Libya Control Territory Amid Daesh Rise

    US Ambassador to Syria Robert Ford said that even if Daesh insurgents operating in Libya are unable to sell oil as successfully as its affiliates in Iraq and Syria, Daesh could use local oil assets to generate revenue and "project military power."

    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — The United States must help Libya hold its territory amid the Islamic State (ISIL or Daesh) terrorist group’s increased attacks on the country and its oil facilities, former US Ambassador to Syria Robert Ford said during a House Armed Services Committee hearing on Tuesday.

    "It will be important…to help a new Libyan government and to help it control territory and we will need to be ready to do that," Ford said adding that he is watching the developments in Tripoli "with concern."

    Ford warned that even if Daesh insurgents operating in Libya are unable to sell oil as successfully as its affiliates in Iraq and Syria, Daesh could use local oil assets to generate revenue and "project military power." The former ambassador added that the Daesh would use its space in Libya to create safe havens to plan attacks similar to Paris assaults.

    Last week, Daesh claimed responsibility for a vehicle that detonated near a military training camp in the northwestern Libyan city of Zliten, which killed some 70 people.

    During Tuesday’s hearing, former CIA Acting Director Michael Morell also warned that based on the current situation in Libya there is a high possibility of a blitzkrieg in the country similar to the one in Iraq.

    Libya has been in a state of turmoil since the Arab Spring protests in early 2011 which led to a civil war. The instability that has plagued Libya since then, including the western military backed overthrow of the country’s long-time leader Muammar Gaddafi, has helped numerous militant groups rise to power including Daesh.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/africa/20160112/1033020395/us-libya-daesh.html#ixzz3x80Gnibo


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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  short_fuze on Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:25 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    short_fuze wrote:BMPD has a report about a couple of supposed Libyan airforce Mig-23MPD attacking caliphate targets. There are reports that they flew from French territory, denied by the French. The aircraft and possibly some weapons appear to have been refurbished by Ukrainians. The yandex translation is a little confusing. Some of the text seems to suggest ISIS was involved in the attacks.

    Can anyone provide an accurate translation?

    Yandexed

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    Original

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/1676270.html

    In Engrrish...

    http://aerohisto.blogspot.fr/

    Thanks. No mention of a Ukraine connection is this version. Who or what  is 'Libya Dawn'? The 'legitimate' Libyan government? Yet another brand name for a US proxy force? More digging needed.

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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:47 pm

    short_fuze wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    short_fuze wrote:BMPD has a report about a couple of supposed Libyan airforce Mig-23MPD attacking caliphate targets. There are reports that they flew from French territory, denied by the French. The aircraft and possibly some weapons appear to have been refurbished by Ukrainians. The yandex translation is a little confusing. Some of the text seems to suggest ISIS was involved in the attacks.

    Can anyone provide an accurate translation?

    Yandexed

    https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/bmpd.livejournal.com/1676270.html

    Original

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/1676270.html

    In Engrrish...

    http://aerohisto.blogspot.fr/

    Thanks. No mention of a Ukraine connection is this version. Who or what  is 'Libya Dawn'? The 'legitimate' Libyan government? Yet another brand name for a US proxy force? More digging needed.
    there is, since the guys who upgrade the Mig's were Ukrainian.

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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  George1 on Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:50 am

    US Government Undecided on Sending Military Forces to Libya to Fight Daesh

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160128/1033862991/carter-undecided-troops-lybia.html#ixzz3yZfh5YsX


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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  George1 on Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:23 pm

    Italy Ready to Lead Libyan Crisis Resolution - Defense Minister

    Italy is ready to lead the effort in resolving the unstable situation in Libya, Italy's Defense Minister Roberta Pinotti said Wednesday.

    ROME (Sputnik) – While Libya's two rival governments are expected to form an interim unity government by as early as mid-February, the country remains plagued by violence and is home to the largest Daesh enclave outside of the Middle East.

    "Italy has always said that it is prepared to take on a leading role in the stabilization of Libya," Pinotti said live on the Italian La7 television channel. "There is a UN resolution, which states that the Libyan authorities can ask for help. If they do so, we are ready [to help]."

    Any military intervention in Libya must be approved by its authorities, Pinotti stressed, adding that the current situation has the potential to turn the country into another Somalia.

    Daesh has been increasing its presence in Libya, she warned, expressing hope that a unity government would be formed as soon as possible.

    Libya has been in a state of turmoil since its longtime leader Muammar Gaddafi was deposed and killed in 2011. Daesh, which is outlawed in many countries including Russia, seized a pocket of Libyan territory centered on Gaddafi's hometown of Sirte in November 2014.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20160203/1034137152/italy-libyan-crisis-resolution.html#ixzz3z6hAl600


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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  George1 on Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:53 am

    Libya Forms 13-Member Consensus Government - Reports

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160215/1034757949/libya-forms-consensus-government.html


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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  Militarov on Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:12 pm

    "BREAKING: Serb diplomats killed in US Sabratha air strike

    There are unconfirmed reports that two kidnapped Serbian diplomats perished in the IS compound in Sabratha that was hit by US warplanes early this morning.



    Serbian embassy communications officer Sladjana Stankovic and a colleague Jovica Stepic were seized in last November when their vehicle was stopped west of Sabratha near the Talil Tourist village by gunmen.

    They had been travelling in a convoy which also contained the Serbian ambassador Oliver Potezica, whose vehicle escaped. At the time the Ghwell administration said that the diplomats had been travelling without authorisation from the Tripoli authorities."




    Source: https://www.libyaherald.com/2016/02/19/breaking-serb-diplomats-killed-in-us-sabratha-air-strike-report/

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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  higurashihougi on Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:13 pm

    Same news, from RT

    https://www.rt.com/news/333082-us-raid-libya-serbians-killed/

    @Militarov, PapaDragon: My sincere condolences to your country.

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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  Militarov on Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:23 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:Same news, from RT

    https://www.rt.com/news/333082-us-raid-libya-serbians-killed/

    @Militarov, PapaDragon: My sincere condolences to your country.

    More on Serbian diplomats that died in US airstrike:





    18+ Photos:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbnxruNW4AAJJwa.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbnxsUlWEAEUKkl.jpg

    Serbs in Tripoli retrieving bodies of the kidnapped embassy staff killed in USAF airstrike:





    Source: https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/700980271773052928

    Reposted this from Serbian news thread, not many ppl visit those.

    Ty man, people here are quite filled with rage, our gov just signed certain cooperation and mutal understanding agreements with NATO and today this... Great allies and "friends", with them, not sure if we need any kind of enemies.

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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:45 am

    USAF bombing embassy staff, with Serbs being on the wrong side of the bombing...could of swore I heard this story before.

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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Feb 21, 2016 2:31 am

    higurashihougi wrote:Same news, from RT

    https://www.rt.com/news/333082-us-raid-libya-serbians-killed/

    @Militarov, PapaDragon: My sincere condolences to your country.

    Thank you.

    This unbelievable, kidnapped by ISIS an then killed by USA in the end.

    Do those morons ever think before shooting or does their life expectancy somehow reduce unless they blow something up?

    What was so urgent to bomb in that backwater that couldn not wait for some basic checkup? Like they are some bomb-vampires or something...

    Angry as sh*t ATM.


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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  short_fuze on Sun Feb 21, 2016 2:49 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    higurashihougi wrote:Same news, from RT

    https://www.rt.com/news/333082-us-raid-libya-serbians-killed/

    @Militarov, PapaDragon: My sincere condolences to your country.

    Thank you.

    This unbelievable, kidnapped by ISIS an then killed by USA in the end.

    Do those morons ever think before shooting or does their life expectancy somehow reduce unless they blow something up?

    What was so urgent to bomb in that backwater that couldn not wait for some basic checkup? Like they are some bomb-vampires or something...

    Angry as sh*t ATM.


    The US forces are renowned for 'shoot first, ask questions later'. This attitude isn't helped by the use of gungho National Guard pilots. A lot of the coalition deaths in Afghanistan for example were the so-called 'friendly fire' from US goons. The 'Collateral Murder' leaked video from Iraq 2007 is a fine example of the US mentality in action.






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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  George1 on Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:47 am



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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  Bolt on Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:45 pm

    RIP to the killed Serbians. Sad

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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  Karl Haushofer on Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:48 pm

    If those hostages had been citizens of a western country they would have tried to rescue them instead of just bombing the whole thing.

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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  Militarov on Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:23 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:If those hostages had been citizens of a western country they would have tried to rescue them instead of just bombing the whole thing.

    Serbs are not worthy of rescue operation judging by NATO.

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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  Karl Haushofer on Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:58 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    Karl Haushofer wrote:If those hostages had been citizens of a western country they would have tried to rescue them instead of just bombing the whole thing.

    Serbs are not worthy of rescue operation judging by NATO.
    And yet the Serbian government wants to join the EU and the NATO. Do they think that the West will see Serbs as their equals if Serbia joins the EU and the NATO?

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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  short_fuze on Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:35 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    Karl Haushofer wrote:If those hostages had been citizens of a western country they would have tried to rescue them instead of just bombing the whole thing.

    Serbs are not worthy of rescue operation judging by NATO.
    And yet the Serbian government wants to join the EU and the NATO. Do they think that the West will see Serbs as their equals if Serbia joins the EU and the NATO?

    All non-US NATO members are expendable. From the start, the intent was to force the then USSR to target closer threats leaving the US unharmed. That changed somewhat when ICBMs came along but the principle still holds. The other important aspect is mandatory US weapons purchases to keep the US MIC alive.

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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  auslander on Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:02 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    higurashihougi wrote:Same news, from RT

    https://www.rt.com/news/333082-us-raid-libya-serbians-killed/

    @Militarov, PapaDragon: My sincere condolences to your country.

    Thank you.

    This unbelievable, kidnapped by ISIS an then killed by USA in the end.

    Do those morons ever think before shooting or does their life expectancy somehow reduce unless they blow something up?

    What was so urgent to bomb in that backwater that couldn not wait for some basic checkup? Like they are some bomb-vampires or something...

    Angry as sh*t ATM.


    You have our deepest condolences for this tragic and senseless loss.

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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  George1 on Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:05 pm

    Libyan Troops Reclaim Key Port From Daesh

    The Libyan army has regained a strategic port near Libya’s second-largest city of Benghazi from Daesh jihadists, Arabic media reported Sunday, citing the Libyan military press service.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Troops launched an assault on Daesh positions in the port of Mreisa some 15 miles southwest of Benghazi, which served as an arms and ammunition supply point for the Islamist fighters, according to the Erem News online publication.

    One of the extremists’ leaders and an undisclosed number of fighters have been killed in the operation.

    The Libyan armed forces lost at least 30 troops during the advance, dubbed "The Blood of Martyrs," in and around Benghazi.

    Daesh has gained a foothold in the North African state after the 2011 toppling of long-time Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi and subsequent political and security turmoil.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/africa/20160221/1035135377/libya-troops-port-daesh.html#ixzz40obSrYE8


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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  Militarov on Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:01 am

    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    Karl Haushofer wrote:If those hostages had been citizens of a western country they would have tried to rescue them instead of just bombing the whole thing.

    Serbs are not worthy of rescue operation judging by NATO.
    And yet the Serbian government wants to join the EU and the NATO. Do they think that the West will see Serbs as their equals if Serbia joins the EU and the NATO?

    Serbs lack financial stability of Western countries, and that drives them towards EU, NATO and similar organisations, even more politicians. Majority of population supports Russia, however if you ask them would you join some Euroasian organisaton or European Union, you would get in 85% of cases answer EU, because they want to gtfo from Serbia and go work in Germany, France, UK, Italy, Austria... And our politicians think that NATO and EU see us as equal, which is rarely the case.

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    Re: Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

    Post  Militarov on Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:05 am

    Serbian prime minister Vučić, claims that after talks with "American" officials he was reassured by them that NATO officers did not know about Serbian hostages in bombed facility.

    And that is it. Our Great Leader Vučić said the word. Now whole thing is to be forgotten. Amen.

    Source: http://mondo.rs/a877572/Info/Srbija/Oteti-Srbi-ubijeni-Vucic-razgovarao-sa-americkim-zvanicnicima.html

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