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    Post  ahmedfire on Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:32 am

    Are you surprised?

    It is the main reason the US dips its oar in everywhere... either money or security threat to Israel... (oil being money too).

    No US carriers involved in Rwanda...

    Not surprised but i'm putting the facts on the table .

    A lot of people are being deceived by Erdogan speech about freedom and liberty , Sudan's ex-president Omar albashir was a dictator on Erdogan's standard but he never mentioned that during the Sudan's revolution... why ? because he was trying to use Sudan as an ally against egypt and tried to build an army base in Sudan on the red sea .
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    Post  ahmedfire on Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:15 pm

    A summary review done by the #LNA on the #Turkish armoured vehicle #BMC.
    This review was done after real combat incentres and further testing on captured models of #BMC the #KİRPİ and #AMAZON in #Libya.


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    Post  ahmedfire on Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:18 pm



    The #LNA downed a #Turkish UAV

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    Post  George1 on Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:29 am

    Halifa with Greek PM in Athens

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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:32 am

    It is best Libya bleeds Turkey dry. The sooner Erdogan the modern day Hitler dies the better it is for Russia.
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    Post  ahmedfire on Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:06 am

    It seems turkey deployed AD Hawk on the libyan airport , that's will not change anything .

    Actually it's a stupid move , LNA is about 10 km from the airport which means they can use only some rocket launchers or artillery to destory the Hawk .

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    Post  ahmedfire on Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:07 am

    George1 wrote:Halifa with Greek PM in Athens


    Did Greece announced it will supply LNA with arms ?
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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:49 am

    ahmedfire wrote:
    George1 wrote:Halifa with Greek PM in Athens


    Did Greece announced it will supply LNA with arms ?

    Don't be ridiculous, just look the face of the so called prime minister of the Greek speakers Laughing
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    Post  ahmedfire on Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:14 am

    Don't be ridiculous, just look the face of the so called prime minister of the Greek speakers Laughing

    Non officially they did Smile

    Greece already captured some ships that were taking arms to libya and sent by turkey , i guess also Greece is supplying LNA with some ammunations and spare parts , but if they announce this officially it will take the conflict to another level .

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    Post  medo on Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:00 pm

    http://www.ekathimerini.com/248486/article/ekathimerini/news/greek-patriots-to-be-deployed-in-saudi-arabia

    Athens and Riyadh have reportedly agreed on the deployment of Patriot anti-aircraft missiles of the Hellenic Air Force in Saudi Arabia.

    Technical details relating to the transportation of the missiles, their deployment, cost and operational responsibility remain to be ironed out for the agreement’s conclusion.

    According to sources, the deal follows the agreement of the foreign ministries of Greece and Saudi Arabia a few weeks ago to boost the latter’s air defense in light of the recent strikes against the facilities of the state-owned Aramco oil company.

    Greece will bring Patriot air defense units to Saudi Arabia. There are already enough US and Saudi Patriots in KSA, so Greek Patriots will not change much there. This favour to KSA means money donations for Greek army. Greece made aliance with fieldmarshal Haftar and they said they will send Greek army to Lybia to control any cease fire agreement as opposition to Turkey. Bankrupt Greece goes into confrontation with Turkey and they need money donator and they find donator in KSA and UAE. Turkeys also need money donator for military interventions and they find it in Qatar.
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    Post  nomadski on Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:37 pm

    If I was Russia, I keep well out of Libya. And force others to keep out too. Even if others don't keep out. It is absolutely not clear, what forces there are on the ground. Their true affiliations and political direction. It is simply chaos. And adding to it will not benefit any participants, since all these forces are antagonistic and destructive to each other. Russia or Turkey, will all loose troops and resources, with no visible gain. Russia can supply both Turkey and Greece with Iranian oil, via own markets, through black sea. So Greece does not fall into sphere of influence of Zionist, with joint expensive exploration of Med oil. And Turkey does not have to panic over it either. Talk to Greece and Turkey and Iran.........

    This also forces Turkey and EU to fight Saudi / UAE . Drives Turkey away from NATO. EU then left to fight Saudi and Egypt over oil control. Leave them to it.



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    Post  flamming_python on Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:56 pm

    nomadski wrote:If I was Russia, I keep well out of Libya. And force others to keep out too. Even if others don't keep out. It is absolutely not clear, what forces there are on the ground. Their true affiliations and political direction. It is simply chaos. And adding to it will not benefit any participants, since all these forces are antagonistic and destructive to each other. Russia or Turkey, will all loose troops and resources, with no visible gain. Russia can supply both Turkey and Greece with Iranian oil, via own markets, through black sea. So Greece does not fall into sphere of influence of Zionist, with joint expensive exploration of Med oil. And Turkey does not have to panic over it either. Talk to Greece and Turkey and Iran.........

    This also forces Turkey and EU  to fight Saudi / UAE . Drives Turkey away from NATO. EU then left to fight Saudi and Egypt over oil control. Leave them to it.



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    My thoughts pretty much

    Russia doesn't have serious interests in Libya. Both sides of the war are pretty bad. Haftar doesn't need more military support to win, Russia in fact is fairly late to the game albeit the assistance it has been providing has been pretty influential.
    Unlike in Syria, Russia need not oppose Turkey and can let them carry on the process of restoring the Ottoman Empire or whatever the hell it is they're doing, but at least that would have the side-effect of making them an independent country. Of course in the end all these ambitions are with the approval of the USA and can become a problem later on, but whatever, it's of more concern to the Europeans and Arabs than it is to Russia.

    Let everyone else duke it out there and then Russia can build relations with whoever the winner of the frenzy is.
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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:54 pm

    The Tribal chiefs turn off the oil. All revenue goes to the GNA in Tripoli regardless off where the oil comes from in the country. Good move by the LNA.


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    #Libya #Libyaoil Libyan oil ports shut down today (Map: Petroleum Economist)

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    Post  ahmedfire on Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:06 am

    Berlin: Libya peace summit agrees on commitment to UN arms embargo

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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:35 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:Berlin: Libya peace summit agrees on commitment to UN arms embargo

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    Putin kowtows to Erdogan the modern Hitler.
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    Post  George1 on Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:51 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:
    George1 wrote:Halifa with Greek PM in Athens


    Did Greece announced it will supply LNA with arms ?

    i think yes but dont expect to declare it officialy Very Happy
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    Post  Isos on Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:08 pm

    There is no need. They are very well equiped by arab states and egypt.
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    Post  ahmedfire on Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:19 pm

    ultimatewarrior wrote:
    ahmedfire wrote:Berlin: Libya peace summit agrees on commitment to UN arms embargo

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    Putin kowtows to Erdogan the modern Hitler.

    Erdogan left the summit early , it seems that everyone there rejected his views . Very Happy

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    Post  ahmedfire on Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:29 pm

    i think yes but dont expect to declare it officialy Very Happy

    Great  Wink
    Actually Greece is very important ally to Egypt as it's a EU member , it will support Egypt in such summits and in any future moves in Libya .
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    Post  ahmedfire on Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:45 pm

    A Turkish ship carrying ammunition was struck by a MiG of the LNA forces on January 20, 2020


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    Post  George1 on Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:09 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:
    i think yes but dont expect to declare it officialy Very Happy

    Great  Wink
    Actually Greece is very important ally to Egypt as it's a EU member , it will support Egypt in such summits and in any future moves in Libya .

    Greece always had good relations with Egypt, there is also a considerable numbar of greeks in Egypt Smile
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    Post  ahmedfire on Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:48 pm

    George1 wrote:
    ahmedfire wrote:
    i think yes but dont expect to declare it officialy Very Happy

    Great  Wink
    Actually Greece is very important ally to Egypt as it's a EU member , it will support Egypt in such summits and in any future moves in Libya .

    Greece always had good relations with Egypt, there is also a considerable numbar of greeks in Egypt Smile

    welcome

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    Post  flamming_python on Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:15 pm

    ultimatewarrior wrote:
    ahmedfire wrote:Berlin: Libya peace summit agrees on commitment to UN arms embargo

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    Putin kowtows to Erdogan the modern Hitler.

    As he should, it's politics. Russia has no reason to be involved in Libya. And he needs to throw a bone to Erdogan in return for ejecting him from Syria for good, where Russia does have interests.
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    Post  Isos on Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:51 pm


    As he should, it's politics. Russia has no reason to be involved in Libya. And he needs to throw a bone to Erdogan in return for ejecting him from Syria for good, where Russia does have interests.

    If they play it right, they can have Turks removing their proxies from Syria to Lybia making easier the capture of rebel parts for SAA and they can sell the weapons to Aftar when he takes all Lybia.

    But right now they need the situation to not change so that Turks keep sending their proxies and bringing Greece and Tukey to the edge of a war and keep hurting nato.

    IMO lybian situation is very interesting for Putin.

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