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    Re: Russian Launch Vehicles and their Spacecraft: Thoughts & News

    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:21 pm

    Yes, because breadlines in Moscow or St.Pete represented everything about every industry.

    Making false equivalencies.

    Oh well, I can see that this thread has devolved to fucking retards jerking each other off on Russia's so called failures in their own eyes.  Vostochny was a huge accomplishment even if it had delays and cost overruns thanks to corruption, but it got completed and now being expanded.  But of course that isn't enough.  You state now Papa in your retarded drivel that "give you even something small", that won't be enough for you.  You will call it a failure in the end anyway (Angara was launched, that should fit your demands too but nope so I am calling out your bullshit right at beginning), so its obvious what you are doing and its getting to be rather tiresome.  You provide nothing, talk nothing, and just make continuous false equivalencies which would not fly in a court of law.

    We are done.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:33 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Yes, because breadlines in Moscow or St.Pete represented everything about every industry....

    Yeah, I mean money that Roskosmos employees were using to pay for food back in the 90s totally had no connection to USA...  Rolling Eyes


    miketheterrible wrote:..Oh well, I can see that this thread has devolved to fucking retards...

    Look who's talking...


    miketheterrible wrote:....  Vostochny was a huge accomplishment....

    They barely finished it. I love the place but it was nearly total clusterfuck.


    miketheterrible wrote:... but it got completed and now being expanded.........

    They are year late with signing the piece of paper. A fucking piece of paper. God knows how long until they actually do something in reality.


    miketheterrible wrote:.... But of course that isn't enough.  You state now Papa in your retarded drivel that "give you even something small", that won't be enough for you.....

    Wait, so you can see the future?  Razz

    Here is what I said:

    So let's cut this short: once Russia actually starts doing something (anything) I will give them benefit of a doubt.
    It doesn't even have to be the whole thing. Bench test of Soyuz-5 engine, drop test of Federation or breaking ground on super-heavy launchpad construction site should more than suffice.



    Bench test, drop test or break ground. Any of those three and I will change my mind. Simple enough. I am waiting.


    miketheterrible wrote:....  which would not fly in a court of law......

    This is not court of law, this is forum.

    And no court in the world can make Roskosmos stop being pile of incompetent morons led by greatest degenerate in history of genetic illnesses.

    They will have to do that on their own.
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    Re: Russian Launch Vehicles and their Spacecraft: Thoughts & News

    Post  KiloGolf on Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:39 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Vostochny was a huge accomplishment even if it had delays and cost overruns thanks to corruption, but it got completed and now being expanded.

    Yeah sure, a Civil Engineering accomplishment. Space-wise... meh.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:41 pm

    My final comment to make before relieving myself from this stupidity and I cannot believe I have to explain this to people.

    It should come to some people here that Russia since 2014 has had to make a lot of changes, even in space industry, because of sanctions and losing their assets in Ukraine. One of Russia's largest companies, Rostec owns assets in Roscosmos and a lot of money has been re-oriented to projects done by Rostec in order to plug holes that was left thanks to the sanctions. Its rather funny that everyone is forgetting that Russia was importing a lot of the technology needed to produce the needed equipment, be it federation or down to the satellites. They have been producing alternatives but what was designed and planned wasn't being produced in a very long time or at all, or in small amounts.

    A key function that has been missing is now being plugged as I mentioned here on the forums.

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/110047/

    Money has recently been given and green light for mass production of space based microelectronics. It is a small step but 1 of many small steps being made to plug holes before they really do anything massive. We got 4 years till we see if Soyuz-5 exists or not. Till then, all of this bitching is nothing more than wasting network data that even porn is better used for, and of course results in nothing more than brain dead debates about fucking nothing.
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    Re: Russian Launch Vehicles and their Spacecraft: Thoughts & News

    Post  KiloGolf on Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:50 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Money has recently been given and green light for mass production of space based microelectronics.  It is a small step but 1 of many small steps being made to plug holes before they really do anything massive.  We got 4 years till we see if Soyuz-5 exists or not.  Till then, all of this bitching is nothing more than wasting network data that even porn is better used for, and of course results in nothing more than brain dead debates about fucking nothing.

    I know Democracy is a new thing in Russia, but trust me, you better keep your politicians and their public money pet projects in check, at all times. Accountability is very important and should be observed irrespective of some medieval national pride you guys make have going on.
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    Re: Russian Launch Vehicles and their Spacecraft: Thoughts & News

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:03 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:My final comment to make before relieving myself ..........

    Funny, wasn't' your previous comment supposed to be final one given that you said:

    miketheterrible wrote:We are done.


    ALSO:

    miketheterrible wrote:It should come to some people here that Russia since 2014 has had to make a lot of changes..........

    And they had plenty of time to do it. 2014 was 4 years ago.

    Anyone with brain would have started long before but let's not split-hair. 4 years is more than enough.

    So like I said before: grace period is over.

    Time for results. Put up or shut up Russia.
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    Re: Russian Launch Vehicles and their Spacecraft: Thoughts & News

    Post  Big_Gazza on Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:35 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:....

    http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Possible_launch_date_of_Russias_Nauka_module_to_ISS_999.html

    6 years late silent

    Honestly I am flabbergasted that it isn't cut for scrap by now. Given their history it's long overdue for it. They probably can't do it because it's literally only thing they have that exists in physical form.

    Without it it's just Soviet leftovers. They will probably just keep delaying it indefinitely while they bleed what little they still can from the budget.

    My god, you really are an ignorant trolling cunt sometimes... seriously... cut it up?
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    Re: Russian Launch Vehicles and their Spacecraft: Thoughts & News

    Post  kvs on Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:39 am

    miketheterrible wrote:My final comment to make before relieving myself from this stupidity and I cannot believe I have to explain this to people.

    It should come to some people here that Russia since 2014 has had to make a lot of changes, even in space industry, because of sanctions and losing their assets in Ukraine.  One of Russia's largest companies, Rostec owns assets in Roscosmos and a lot of money has been re-oriented to projects done by Rostec in order to plug holes that was left thanks to the sanctions.  Its rather funny that everyone is forgetting that Russia was importing a lot of the technology needed to produce the needed equipment, be it federation or down to the satellites.  They have been producing alternatives but what was designed and planned wasn't being produced in a very long time or at all, or in small amounts.

    A key function that has been missing is now being plugged as I mentioned here on the forums.

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/110047/

    Money has recently been given and green light for mass production of space based microelectronics.  It is a small step but 1 of many small steps being made to plug holes before they really do anything massive.  We got 4 years till we see if Soyuz-5 exists or not.  Till then, all of this bitching is nothing more than wasting network data that even porn is better used for, and of course results in nothing more than brain dead debates about fucking nothing.

    These alleged Balkan clowns are in a total frenzy since their Mecca, the USA, is in a fit of anti-Russian hysteria. All this denigration of
    Russian technology is pure fantasy projection based on deep insecurity about the consequences of a NATO attack on Russia. These retards
    want Russia to fail instantly. They wet their pants in fear of the possibility that Russia will mop the floor with NATO. NATO is has never
    actually fought any wars. And the USA has been training itself on weak 3rd countries. So no part of NATO is prepared to fight Russia.
    Of course the lunatics that run NATO are engaged in the same delusional fantasy projection and think they can roll over Russia with little effort.
    This is a peculiar western disease. Both Napoleon and Hitler had the exact same prejudice.

    Too bad for NATO, but Russia is in much better shape today than it was in 1941 as part of the USSR. No amount of trolling on this forum by
    NATO retards is going to change this fact. And every day, Russia's state of preparedness and military capacity is increasing.
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    Re: Russian Launch Vehicles and their Spacecraft: Thoughts & News

    Post  kvs on Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:43 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:....

    http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Possible_launch_date_of_Russias_Nauka_module_to_ISS_999.html

    6 years late silent

    Honestly I am flabbergasted that it isn't cut for scrap by now. Given their history it's long overdue for it. They probably can't do it because it's literally only thing they have that exists in physical form.

    Without it it's just Soviet leftovers. They will probably just keep delaying it indefinitely while they bleed what little they still can from the budget.

    My god, you really are an ignorant trolling cunt sometimes...  seriously...  cut it up?

    The retard, in his fantasy land of wishful thinking and bed wetting insecurity, does not care to know that Russian workers at defense
    enterprises during the 1990s were not paid by NATO. They were not paid at all and engaged in barter to feed themselves. This
    resistance to Yeltsin's pro-NATO agenda is what saved Russia. Rocket systems were developed during the 1990s and technological
    capacity was not allowed to be flushed by the toilet. Yeltsin The NATO Stooge was supposed to shut down every defense plant in
    Russia. But those pesky workers f*cked up his plans.

    The opinion of supposedly Balkan NATO fanboi retards is self-evidently worthless.
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    Re: Russian Launch Vehicles and their Spacecraft: Thoughts & News

    Post  Big_Gazza on Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:11 am

    PapaDragon wrote:Yeah, I mean money that Roskosmos employees were using to pay for food back in the 90s totally had no connection to USA...  Rolling Eyes

    Riiight...  cuz NASA was handing over money because it wanted to make sure that Roscosmos employees could feed their families?  FFS....

    PapaDragon wrote:They barely finished it. I love the place but it was nearly total clusterfuck.

    The project ran behind, true enough, but I'd struggle to find any other project anywhere of a similar size that didn't.  Having said that "barely finished" is hardly an apt description.

    PapaDragon wrote:They are year late with signing the piece of paper. A fucking piece of paper. God knows how long until they actually do something in reality.

    You can't issue a construction tender until the detailed design and tendering documentation is complete.  Tenders take time to prepared (the bigger the job the more time is required) and then you need to review and evaluate the tenders and perform due diligence.  That takes time.  Every project I have been involved in over the last 30+ years always incurs some delays in this process as it really cannot be rushed else you leave yourselves vulnerable to claims on cost & schedule overruns.  

    I have no idea what you do in the real world, but its sure isn't construction or engineering....

    PapaDragon wrote:And no court in the world can make Roskosmos stop being pile of incompetent morons led by greatest degenerate in history of genetic illnesses.

    With quality input like this, I'm sure you'll win the "debate" and the world will spontaneously reform in a manner that you find pleasing...
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    Re: Russian Launch Vehicles and their Spacecraft: Thoughts & News

    Post  KiloGolf on Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:25 am

    Gets worse:



    But Kommersant reported that only 150,000 dollars would go to the Khrunichev centre, with the rest going to the Russian advertising company Planeta Zemlya (Planet Earth) and two US companies, Space Marketing Inc and Globus Space, which developed the public relations campaign.

    http://www.spacedaily.com/news/pizzahut-00b.html
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    Re: Russian Launch Vehicles and their Spacecraft: Thoughts & News

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:19 am

    kvs wrote:...Russian... workers at defense enterprises during the 1990s were not paid by NATO. They were not paid at all and engaged in barter to feed themselves. .....

    Holy crap, this is too good. Razz

    Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Russia in all her fanboy perceived glory!

    Why do I even bother arguing when I can just wait until night when you will do all the work for me?



    kvs wrote:... This resistance to Yeltsin's pro-NATO agenda is what saved Russia. ......

    lol1

    Right, selling everything you could physically drag out of your workplace is what saved Russia....

    Are you sure you checked this post for syntax errors before clicking "send"?
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    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:23 am

    KiloGolf wrote:Gets worse:

    http://www.spacedaily.com/images/proton-pizza-bg.jpg

    But Kommersant reported that only 150,000 dollars would go to the Khrunichev centre, with the rest going to the Russian advertising company Planeta Zemlya (Planet Earth) and two US companies, Space Marketing Inc and Globus Space, which developed the public relations campaign.

    http://www.spacedaily.com/news/pizzahut-00b.html

    Well what did people expect? It's Krunichev.

    They may not be able to get their own job done and may know how to rob the taxpayers but that's the only thing they know how to rob.

    Getting money out of anyone else requires skill and intelligence.
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    Re: Russian Launch Vehicles and their Spacecraft: Thoughts & News

    Post  GarryB on Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:17 am

    USA paid for everything starting from construction costs down to food for the workers.

    It was a fire sale... the Russians had the technology and hardware but no money for this sort of BS.

    The US always has money for BS.

    USA was to build their own modular space station and many people in NASA were severely pissed off when they were ordered to work with Russians and donate part of their already meager budget to them just because those drunk clowns were unable to keep their anorexic gophers from selling sensitive tech to first​ Arab or Nork with more than 100$ on him.

    Funny story... the first Americans to go up on Mir had only American experience of space and so a week up there was about all they knew about.

    The Russians told them that after 6 months in orbit they will be very weak and will need to be carried around like children when they landed but the americans thought they knew better.

    The astronauts just kept quiet but thought that with American developed exercises and american food prescribed by dietitians that they would be able to undo their belt buckles and leap out of their chairs after landing... stupid Russians.

    So they did their exercises and ate their food and when the time came to leap out of his seat after landing back on earth he couldn't lift his hand to undo the belt holding him in the seat.

    That sort of arrogance would have been a death sentence to US crew going to mars...

    Amiland paid for tech and services they received. Or are you doing your mechanic a favour when he repairs your car? Or your dentist when he looks after your teeth?

    When America pays it makes them superior... they are better than their mechanics and their dentists because they pay them for their services... of course the obvious question would be if they are better then why bother paying the Russians to do it in the first place.

    America does not do charity...

    So let's cut this short: once Russia actually starts doing something (anything) I will give them benefit of a doubt.

    I am sure Russia is holding its breath.

    It's just bad form. Not even NASA pulled off such ****.

    Capitalism is bad form? An American company paid money to put a little paint on the outside of a Russian rocket and you turn your nose up at them making some extra money?

    Communist.


    But you misspelled HATO. Besides, what is HATO supposed to mean since it seem to be popular spelling lately? Are they trying to make it look cyrillic?

    I suspect Hate is a factor, because that is what the organisation is all about... hating Russia on the one hand, but declaring Russia is not their enemy with the next breath...


    Bench test, drop test or break ground. Any of those three and I will change my mind. Simple enough. I am waiting.

    Hahahahaha... change your mind... hahahahahahahahaha

    This is not court of law, this is forum.

    It is a drive by lynching.

    Money has recently been given and green light for mass production of space based microelectronics. It is a small step but 1 of many small steps being made to plug holes before they really do anything massive. We got 4 years till we see if Soyuz-5 exists or not. Till then, all of this bitching is nothing more than wasting network data that even porn is better used for, and of course results in nothing more than brain dead debates about fucking nothing.

    Don't be silly Mike.... they are here for a whinge... I believe you might call it a moan. Putting items is space is easy peasy... anyone can do it and Russia is untouched in terms of resources and money, so there are no problems at all, except that Russians are stupid... didn't you know you have to be brilliant to make rockets... that is why it is called rocket science... and dumb people are described as being not rocket scientists.

    Accountability is very important and should be observed irrespective of some medieval national pride you guys make have going on.

    Hahahahahahaha... calling an American defending Russian space heritage medieval... I guess your love for America will obviously result in US bases coming to a place near you... hope you don't have any daughters in that 8-13 year old range that those mericans love so much... pull their pigtails nice and tight and they will pretend they are japanese... seems to be their favourite.

    Have fun with that.

    So like I said before: grace period is over.

    Time for results. Put up or shut up Russia.

    Or else what?

    Serbia will join the EU, Macedonia will change its name to Disneyland and also join the EU.

    Russia has strong ties with many countries in the reason... but I am wondering why... little countries moan a lot... I know, I come from New Zealand, and if that is not enough look at what the Baltic states say to Russia. Balkan states seem to be turning the same way.

    This
    resistance to Yeltsin's pro-NATO agenda is what saved Russia.

    A Yeltsin that was elected because of direct US interference in Russian elections BTW.

    Ironic because right now they couldn't organise an orgy in a whorehouse when it comes to Russia.

    Yeah, I mean money that Roskosmos employees were using to pay for food back in the 90s totally had no connection to USA...

    The americans had lots of money to cut up nuclear subs or to try to buy oil or gas resources, but no money for schools or hospitals or just to help the Russian people... that is why democracy and the west became unpopular...

    Gets worse:

    150 grand for doing nothing... what fucking idiots they are...

    They may not be able to get their own job done and may know how to rob the taxpayers but that's the only thing they know how to rob.

    Getting money out of anyone else requires skill and intelligence.

    The rocket was launched and did its job. The taxpayers didn't pay any extra for an advert to be put on the rocket and they made 150 thousand US dollars for allowing a company to put their logo on the side of their rocket... who is being robbed?

    BTW If I could get some company to put their logo on the side of my car for 150 thousand US dollars would you call me stupid too?

    Pretty clear who is stupid and a western stooge... if america does not do it then it must be wrong seems to be how you think... stop drinking the kool aide... it has given you brain cancer.
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    Re: Russian Launch Vehicles and their Spacecraft: Thoughts & News

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:27 pm


    Russia will present for the first time a model of super-heavy rocket at the forum " Army-2018"

    https://ria.ru/space/20180801/1525746959.html
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    Post  BlackArrow on Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:27 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Russia will present for the first time a model of super-heavy rocket at the forum " Army-2018"

    https://ria.ru/space/20180801/1525746959.html

    A model of a rocket?

    Reminds me of this:

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    Post  Big_Gazza on Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:52 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Russia will present for the first time a model of super-heavy rocket at the forum " Army-2018"

    https://ria.ru/space/20180801/1525746959.html

    The Khrunichev stand still intends to show a model of Proton-Medium? Suspect Surely not?

    Maybe they've already built the demo model and need to fill out space on their stand? I'll put a fiver on some smart-arse scrawling "CANCELLED" on it with a paint-pen!
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    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:56 am

    BlackArrow wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Russia will present for the first time a model of super-heavy rocket at the forum " Army-2018"

    https://ria.ru/space/20180801/1525746959.html

    A model of a rocket?

    ......

    Oh c'mon, don't tell me you expected the whole thing? This is organisation legendary for not moving beyond scale models (if they are lucky, usually it's just low effort drawing), begging for foreign investor's money, and never getting anything done.

    And now they just entered the era of epic new leadership.

    Be happy if you get to see the model...
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:13 am

    Deadlines for closing the missile launch program Proton


    The program for launching Proton rockets from the Baikonur cosmodrome will last until 2026, RIA Novosti reported in the Aerospace Committee of the Kazakh Defense Ministry (Kazkosmos).   The department added that after this period the prospects for launching the "Protons" are not considered.

    Earlier it was reported about the imminent closure of the Proton missile program. The decommissioning of one of the launch sites for these missiles at the Baikonur was planned in 2023.

    The fact that the missile program Proton will soon be closed and now it is necessary to promote "environmentally friendly" carriers of Angara, the current head of Roskosmos Dmitry Rogozin said while still vice-premier for the defense industry. The fact that the production of the "Protons" "is coming to an end in the near future," and the Khrunichev Center is moving to the construction of the "Angara-A5" and "Angara-A5M," he claimed and in his new position.

    In addition, the general director of Energomash, which produces engines for the Protons, Igor Arbuzov said in an interview with RIA Novosti that the production of engines for these missiles will end in late 2018. According to him, enterprises that previously produced engines for the "Protons" will load orders for gas turbine engines, power plants, as well as pumps and pump stations for the oil and gas industry.

    At the same time, Andrei Pankratov, deputy general director of the Khrunichev Center for Foreign Economic Affairs, told RIA Novosti in May that the plans of the center until 2025 are to launch 24 "protons" of various modifications. A source of RIA Novosti at the Baikonur reported that the volume of contracts for the launch of Proton-L missiles, that is, the average modification of a heavy carrier, without a third stage, had reached almost a billion dollars.

    https://ria.ru/science/20180805/1525956704.html

    Hmm...  Proton pad decommissioning starting in 2023, 24x Proton launches scheduled to program end in 2026, end of Proton engine manufacture in 2018 ( Shocked ), $1B of contracts for Proton medium ( Suspect )

    I find it hard to reconcile an end of engine manufacture in 2018 with 24x launches to 2026.  I would not have thought that Khrunichev/Energomash would have a current inventory of flight-certified rockets and engines to sustain that many launches.

    Dunno what to make of this.  I'm never certain on how much credence to give to Russian media reporting...
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    Re: Russian Launch Vehicles and their Spacecraft: Thoughts & News

    Post  George1 on Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:49 pm

    Russian space agency drafting federal program for creating super-heavy carrier rocket

    YAROSLAVL, August 6. /TASS/. Russia’s State Space Corporation Roscosmos has launched work to draft a federal target program for creating a super-heavy carrier rocket, Roscosmos Chief Dmitry Rogozin said on Monday.

    "We have launched work on a federal target program for creating a super-heavy carrier rocket," Rogozin said.

    Super-heavy rocket

    As was reported earlier, Roscosmos has placed an order for developing the design of a super-heavy rocket worth 1.6 billion rubles ($25 million). The conceptual design of the super-heavy space rocket complex is planned to be completed by October 31, 2019.

    The new Russian super-heavy carrier rocket is intended to deliver over 70 tonnes of cargo into low near-Earth orbit. The construction of infrastructure for the new carrier rocket is expected to begin at the Vostochny spaceport in the Russian Far East in 2026.

    The decree on creating the space rocket compound at the Vostochny cosmodrome was earlier signed by Russian President Vladimir Putin. The concept of its creation envisages maximally utilizing the accumulated potential. Also, basic elements and technologies of the Soyuz-5 medium-class rocket currently under development will be used to create the super-heavy launch vehicle.

    According to Roscosmos’s estimates, the creation of the super-heavy carrier rocket and the construction of the corresponding infrastructure will cost 1.5 trillion rubles ($24 billion).

    More:
    http://tass.com/defense/1016203
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:22 am

    This doesn't make sense. Surely they have a 'conceptual design" already? Nov 2019? Suspect It certainly doesn't take 14 months to develop a "concept".

    I could understand if it was a draft design (eg no detailed fabrication drawings or avionics/controls schematics developed) , so maybe the issue is just simply poor reporting or translation?
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    Re: Russian Launch Vehicles and their Spacecraft: Thoughts & News

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:18 am


    This flew under the radar, model of Soyuz-5 and finally officiall model of super-heavy rocket:





    Also, Federation:

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    Post  George1 on Sun Sep 02, 2018 3:12 pm

    Soyuz-5 will restore Russia’s status of leading space power, deputy PM says

    Soyuz-5 is to be created by 2021

    KOROLYOV /Moscow Region/, August 31. /TASS/. Creation of the Soyuz-5 space rocket will enhance Russia’s status of a leading space power, Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov said on Friday.

    "We are to cope with a unique and technically complicated task, but once we’ve done that, Russia will regain and enhance its status of a leading world space power," he told a conference on manned space programs at the space rocket corporation Energia’s office on Friday.


    Borisov said the task on the agenda was to lay the basis of manned programs for exploring deep space. Under the presidential decree Energia was named the main architect of a super-heavy space rocket of the future.

    "On this spacecraft we pin our plans for exploring deep space. Creation of the medium class rocket, Soyuz-5, will be a major part of that project," he said.

    Russia’s space corporation Roscosmos earlier approved the rocket’s sketch design. Soyuz-5 is to be created by 2021. The first flight tests at the Baikonur site are due in 2022. The rocket will be used to put the yet-to be developed spacecraft Federatsiya into low near-Earth orbits.


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    Post  George1 on Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:20 am

    Russian launch service provider reveals cost of Soyuz-2.1 rocket launch

    The delivery of 1 kg of cargo by a Soyuz-2 rocket will cost $20,000-30,000, which is below the average market price

    MOSCOW, October 3. /TASS/. The basic price for launch of Russia’s Soyuz-2.1 carrier rocket with the Fregat booster will stand at about $48.5 million, Russian launch service provider, Glavkosmos Launch Services, has said.

    "On the first day of the International Astronautical Congress in Bremen, our team announced the basic price for launch of a Soyuz-2.1 carrier rocket with the Fregat booster. It stands at $48.5 million," the company said in a statement, posted on Facebook.

    The launch of Soyuz-2.1 without the Fregat booster will cost about $35 million.

    "Therefore, the delivery of 1 kg of cargo by a Soyuz-2 rocket will cost $20,000-30,000… which is below the average market price," the statement reads.

    CEO of Russia’s state space corporation Roscosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, said on October 1 that SpaceX CEO Elon Musk quoted knock-down prices on launches of his spacecraft at $40-60 million to squeeze Russia out of the space market. The Russian official described the approach as "pure dumping," adding that SpaceX receives $150 million for one launch from Pentagon.

    SpaceX’s most commercially successful rocket is now Falcon 9. One of its modifications has a reusable first stage. According to open sources, a Falcon 9 launch costs from 55 to 65 million US dollars, depending on the modification.


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